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> There's surely a space between "perfectly acceptable" and "illegal"?

If there is, it's a space that you can minimize using licensing terms, and as a user I will assume that the licensing terms are chosen by the authors in a fashion that best represents their interests. Especially since so many template licenses exist that address this exact problem.

> I don't like this idea that you have no right to complain about something if you haven't specifically banned it in a legally enforceable license.

I think it's unfair to imply that the post you respond to represents that idea, if that's what you're doing. Although worded frankly, it's a constructive suggestion for what proprietors can do to prevent this. It's not a new problem.
Open Source authors need to be educated about the rights they give up with various licences, so they aren't "educated" in this way.

Copyright licence is a legally binding document. You can talk about the community all you like, but the legal system doesn't give a damn.

Sticking your head in the sand won't make the problem go away.
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Honestly, this point is kind of nonsense to me. If people acted as if they were held to the higher standard, we would not need licenses. People (especially when they're not acting alone, e.g. corporations) act in their monetary interest, most of the time. Hence, stick to the license that's least restrictive that still ticks all the boxes you feel are important. If you feel attribution is important, choose a license that makes it legally binding.
Please tell her thank you for the enthusiastic want and that it's not a club; it's a list so we can send out an announcement as soon as we open the shop next.
I'm not sure most companies would touch software with a nonstandard license like that though.
medieval trope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil's_Bridge
Yes, I think this is the other side of being a kid :).

There'd certainly be a lot more paleontologists and crane operators if we followed our passions as children to fruition.
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It's what we switched to from Swarm and it works great on anything larger than the equivalent of a t3.micro instance.
The Guardian. They're good quality, have great investigative journalism, and seem to care about things that actually matter ( e.g. environment and climate change, Panama Papers, Snowden, etc.)
Funny, I recognized the melody from the Slick Rick song La Di Da Di.

https://youtu.be/zk4Y7SbTQK8?t=164

Warning: potentially NSFW - language (for those still in offices)
But it is firewalled (between OBD port and the car, between internal buses,...). I won't say it's sufficiently locked down, but as we recently saw - not even Apple got that completely right - but there are several layers of protection(s) on the various communication bus-es and computers. At least on European Manufacturers.

I agree that this needs more hardening, but reading this comments one would get an idea that a 12 years old kid with a 10EUR dongle can hack any car. When in reality, stuff is a lot harder to do.
Guy writes some open source code and puts a license on it saying others can use it as they please. Someone else uses it. Guy goes on Twitter to complain someone used it without credit. In response to rant on Twitter someone points out that there actually is acknowledgement in the code. So in the end, they used it and gave him credit. Guy is like, oops, well that’s cool.

Sigh.
He definitely wasn't flying at 2000 ft. More like 100.
Malicious attacks on human-driven cars would work too.

Relevant xkcd:
https://xkcd.com/1958/
Eep! Good catch, thank you :)
1. I thought US was always at war, wasn’t it?
2. In France, it’s clear for a few months now, even BBC know it: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/51917380
AGPL tries to do this but it's otherwise similar to GPL rather than Apache 2.
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Ok, we should fork at convenience without taking care how was made something. Because "the company" only takes care on your LICENSE file and fu.. the maintainers or collaborators on it.
If we always come with excuses like "Oh, wait but it's not specified somewhere I can copy, appropriate it and sell it as mine". Fu..! Because looks like we need to protect* our self of companies instead of trust them. So OSS doesn't make sense.
So now turns out that there are no people managing decisions like this. Come on, credits are not a fu..ing problem and are free of cost!
Why bother buying them? Neither work is under copyright. You can read them for free online:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-m...

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fc-industrial-societ...

(TLDR: Marx aged like milk, Uncle Ted like wine.)
We haven't improved efficiency at all, it takes far more resources to keep a person going today than it did in the 14th century. It takes a couple decades of education before a person can even begin to enter the workforce. Raising kids was once an investment, now people can barely afford to raise 1 or 2.

Our inefficient stuff is made by people in foreign countries working in factories whose lives really aren't any better than middle ages Europe.

Also, People like farming and hard physical labour. In the suburbs every household has a little miniature hobby farm that yields a useless crop, and people farm it for fun over and above their regular job. When people don't have to do any hard labour as part of their job, they go to a gym and pay money for the privelege of moving heavy things around even though it serves no practical purpose.

All this inefficiency is destroying the planet, which is the dumbest thing of all.
Isn't the 'Attribution Assurance License' pertinent?
https://opensource.org/licenses/AAL
Yeah buts not visible to the enduser or be rewarded in any way. You have to download the CRX (Chrome extension) file yourself, extract it and then you could see the content of the NOTICES.txt...
This is a great comment, it's something I have never really thought about, but now that you mention it...

、is "correct" Japanese and is used in formal or serious communications.

？ isn't technically correct in Japanese but it's become pervasive in informal to semi-serious communications in the last 15-20 years, but particularly the last 10 years.

It's comparable to the "passive aggressive full stop" in English, and the shift has happened over roughly the same time period too. These days, seeing someone write か。 instead of か？ makes me think they are either old or upset*

*in anything other than quite formal keigo mails (JMO, I am mid 30s)

> Interestingly, it has the effect on me of giving it vocal inflection which works quite well in the context of the example.

It's interesting that you write that. I would say that is why people write that way:

終わったのかもしれませんよ？

終わったのかもしれませんよ。

In [0] there is a chart that shows that Heisei-born are almost as likely to exclusively use ？ to indicate a high pitch at the end of a sentence as 40s+ are likely to exclusively use 。

[0]https://www.nhk.or.jp/bunken/research/kotoba/20170401_4.html
Look.. going back up the thread and the tweet.

There has to be daylight between legal "fault" or obligation and courtesy. The author isn't going on a tirade, he made a quip.

We have faculties, as humans, that aren't strictly legible in the way a license or legal code is. Laws are not a substitute for custom or courtesy. We do need both. No one said they stole. They said they were discourteous.
That’s not as clear cut as your post may make it seem. Some users (me, for example) are more inclined to use a hosted service of some open source software than of some proprietary piece. Because that gives me a migration option if the providers service no longer fits my needs. For example, I’m paying four digits a month for some hosted Postgres database.
I think the argument is that $200 crappy is better than $2000 commercial for a lot of uses.

If I'm labeling pins and parts on a PCB, I'll take low-quality labels over no labels any day. If I'm labeling how wood fits together on a laser cut, I'll take it. If I'm making educational resources, quality almost doesn't matter.

If I could have a 1980-era printhead I could control, I could do a lot with it.

And if we had that, quality would improve with time. Look how many years it took 3d printers to be useful for anything practical. I expect if we started even with 1980-era inkjet quality, we'd get to nice in 5-10 years.
When writing that up I was looking for a structure who's natural partial order could be neatly laid out in 2-dimensions.

But it seems this is not very clear, I'll take another look around for a more intuitive structure.
> Native c/c++ code linking maybe?

Companies do C/C++ linking to Electron itself in a web app? I'm sorry, but I've never heard of such a thing. Do they also do C/C++ linking to the browser for the web app version fo the app? Web development must really have changed in recent years.
I think the response you are replying to was a reaction to the possible interpretation that OpenPilot puts pedestrians etc. at increased risk, or that it put the driver at increased risk.

While a reasonable interpretation includes putting the driver at increased /legal/ risk relative to a system where the manufacturer represents it as for sale for autonomous driving, it is unreasonable to infer that this puts the driver at greater risk of being sued, having to sue, or monetary loss. OpenPilot may be better / safer than the competition such that using it lowers your risk of accident, monetary loss, etc. even including any purported loss of the ability to pass the buck to the manufacturer.
The original 4-clause BSD had an advertising clause that is basically what you're asking for. It was considered impractical.
Not really, it's about Amazon not being a great OSS citizen. They don't have to be but it's a combination of immature, rude, and unprofessional to not be like that if your core business is packaging up and integrating other people's OSS software.

They are of course well within their rights as per the license to behave like this but there's a notion of being courteous, grateful, and constructive in the OSS world that comes with being a responsible OSS citizen and that goes a long way to ensure people volunteer to help you out with bugs, support, change requests, etc. It doesn't cost anything to just reach out and give this person some kudos. It's the right thing to do.

Amazon is being a bit insensitive here and this sounds to me like somebody up high ought to do a bit of yelling internally about acting professionally and not needlessly burning bridges with the OSS people that they depend on for their core business. At least I'd be all over this if I were confronted with this kind of behavior by one of my colleagues. Not cool. A public apology would go a long way to fixing this; maybe a couple of lines in the readme. Doesn't cost a thing.
I'd agree with this — with things like Creative Commons it's very clear if someone is asking for attribution or not, if it allows non commercial etc.

In an enterprise company, it's _much_ easier to use something with an established licence. Having "MIT with attribution" might be waved through by a standing policy. Having "my custom MIT fork" needs Legal involved & may not be a hill to die on so just get ditched instead.
> so if you want it, stick it in your license

It's a rather pointless burden and not without cost, as it can make it incompatible with other licenses.

It's reasonable to expect some credit to be acknowledged even when it's not mandated by law. Just common courtesy.
Since the invention of videotape it has been possible to watch plays with great casts. But I think that live drama is the form least affected by this, for two reasons: it is about live actors in front of an audience; the context changes with the times. Think of Henry V performed in WW II England (yes, yes, I am thinking of Olivier's movie) or of Lysistrata put on by the literal minded during the second Gulf War.
Can you disable Neagles (enable nodelay) on .js XMLHttpRequest or the newer fetch stuff? Maybe chrome/firefox disables it by default?

Edit: This community is stupid/toxic.
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