skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
How’s it ineffective? The previous administration spent 8 years coming up with a terrible agreement that all candidates wanted to quit. Meanwhile the high tariffs have forced companies to leave, and sure, Biden has said that he’d end Trump’s China tariffs, but at least the many companies that have already setup shop elsewhere are unlikely to return.

For years countries have also been forced to waste taxpayer money to deliver cheap junk from Aliexpress/Wish/etc. because Universal Postal Union wouldn’t allow countries to increase postal rates from China. The previous administration was unable to do anything about it, but Trump succeeded where they failed.

Huawei has also been significantly hurt. Being banned from using Android and chips with US tech has effectively destroyed their mobile products (as their stock runs out), and countries are abandoning their 5G deals (either as a result of USA paying them to drop Huawei, or simply because China/Huawei’s reputation has dropped so much in the last four years). Trump also dragged other countries into it by e.g. requesting Meng Wanzhou’s arrest, which resulted in China arbitrarily arresting Canadian citizens.

He’s also the first US President to speak directly with Taiwan’s President since 1979, and has made the largest arms sale to Taiwan in the past few decades.

TAIPEI Act and Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act was signed under his administration, and Hong Kong lost its special status.

If judges hadn’t temporarily stopped Trump’s executive orders then TikTok and WeChat would also be banned now (it’s absurd that the west for decades have put up with China blocking western companies from their markets while freely allowing them into our markets).. hopefully the bans will go through, and hopefully TikTok/WeChat will just be the first of many.

Trump is also one of the few world leaders who continuously remind the world that China are responsible for the pandemic, and China still won’t allow WHO/others to investigate the origins in Wuhan.

Trump has also been pushing for China to lose WTO developing country status, which will surely happen if he’s re-elected.

As a liberal I disagree with most of Trump’s policies, but I could really go on-and-on about his effective/positive actions towards China.. you could make a solid case that Trump in four years has done more to stand up to China than the rest of the western world combined (including the previous administration) has done in the past decade.
I just switched to dvorak many years ago. Not coming back, though hotkeys are a mess.

(I'm still fast with qwerty, surprisingly, skill doesn't deteriorate. I guess it works like speaking languages, you can be fluent in more than one)
Someone gave me a copy of RedHat 5.2 one day, my only regret is that it should have come earlier. By then I was already hooked on MS products and it took quite a while to let them go and embrace the *nix way of life completely.
Check this out:
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/data/Appr...

Contrast that with the previous year:
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/data/Appr...

You can see that the outsourcing firms have fewer and fewer approvals. Of course with this latest change it will decline more.
Ok that was missing from your original statement as a condition. Some work visas dont need a prior employment offer as precondition.

I still think that it would drag salaries down significantly. I know employment and salaries are not a zero sum game, but the offer/supply ratio is a parameter.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

At least until you realize most bars utilize the same mechanism. It needs to be more of a combination of a high degree of departure from one's primary industrial/service vertical as well to really work as a canary though.
> Really, just raising the caps by say 10% every year gets the same result without the chaos.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I was writing the above, but didn't want to get too into the weeds on what I wanted to be a short answer to the original question (I have a habit of going on...).

Like many things, an immediate large change has repercussions that are detrimental and can possibly be alleviated with a measured change over time.

That's how you acclimate fish to the temperature in a new aquarium. That said, it's also how they tell you to boil a frog...
Xenophobia is more expected, when the immigrant population is ghettoized, alienated, given fewer opportunities and stricter policing, and made to compete with the local population for limited jobs.

A more reasonable policy would be to make sure the that doesn't happen. Say by abolishing racist policing, better urban planning, better labor laws, and partly socialized job market.

EDIT: Changed wording, previously incorrectly stated that immigration was natural under these circumstances.
This one is also a particularly terrible move:

>“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.”

Copying from my comment below, this is likely to backfire.

Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their visa will just be allowed to work remotely from India or Canada where it's trivial to get a work visa if you have a job offer.

This means the US economy will lose all the taxes and local expenditure in the economy by the family like rent, food, travel, vacations, utilities, medical expenses, entertainment, cars, home sales, etc. etc. And if that works out, the next hire may just be directly hired in India or Canada itself.

If I were in the Canada govt, I'd immediately create a way around the travel ban for workers who's visas didn't get renewed to be able to move to Canada after following a strict quarantine protocol. If the worker was able to work remotely in the US using Zoom, why can't they do the same job remotely in the same time zone in Canada using the same remote working tools? This might be a once in lifetime opportunity for Canada to grow their tech sector, especially if Trump gets re-elected and puts further restrictions.

There is already a small industry in Canada where a company takes a few % of the billing rate in order to sponsor and hold a Canadian visa for people who lost their H1B visas due to increased and inconsistent rejections over the past few years, but whose employer is willing to allow them to work from Canada. This moves a lot of money to Canada.

Also, some tech companies have been outright moving jobs to Canada because they can hire from a global workforce and Canada has been welcoming them. This is going to intensify.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/27/799402801/canada-wins-u-s-los...

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2020-07-...

There is a reason this regulation didn't follow the normal rule-making and public comment period. Very likely this wouldn't have happened if there wasn't an imminent election.
Well, it's possible for there to be a shortage of early-career specialists. Even now, with CS majors stuffed to the brim across the country, entry-level software engineering salaries keep rising and the big companies hire as fast as they can.

I see your point broadly, but I think it's possible for that to be true and to also take university-grad H1-B employees.
I'm taking you up on your bet. I just downloaded that Turner book. It doesn't say where the word came from at all. The earliest primary citation for the word "vikingr" is in reference to a saga written by Snorre/Snorri (an Icelandic historian), who was born in the late 12th century. "Wicing" dates to the 11th century (see Sea Wolves, A History of the Vikings; you're welcome to go down that primary cite rabbit hole yourself).
I was surprised, when I got my citizenship, just how limited the family reunification up here is, but I'm also okay with that. It might be different for people who come in via refugee channels (they've been forced to leave their home and may not have a valid and safe path to reunify if they need to) but, as an elective immigrant the only automatic ins I've got are nephews and nieces in the case of orphaning. I'm pretty okay with that.

While the rest of my US family is freaking out a bit right now I think it's a lot more just to bring in folks looking for work with skills to support them.
The particle []or[] antiparticle (only one avoids falling in) produced usually does pair up and annihilate with another (anti)particle, but that happens above the event horizon, so the photon resulting from that annihilation sometimes is pointed away from black hole and escapes. It's only very small black holes where the pair-production particles themselves have sufficient height and speed to escape.
It would be simpler to award the limited pool of H1-Bs in order of descending wages, and cross-check with the IRS afterwards to verify those salaries are actually paid. That would kill all the bottom-feeding body shops.
The point here is that if you put a proxy in front of your API, on your own infrastructure, _you are no longer in origin scope_ and cookies will not be sent along with the request.
It’s not the responsibility of the US govt, companies or people to underwrite other countries’ underprivileged people when we have our own we fail to care for well enough.

We had a revolution and a civil war and unrest to fix our own failures. They can work to improve their own self determination. Look, Panama 25 years ago was a basket case. But now they are one of the better economies of the southern cone.
I'm curious about the details of this for insulin. Is it a problem with one political party or with both? Does the pharma oligopoly control the politicians through donations/funding? Or is there a legitimate IP protection reason that the pharma companies have that justifies the lack of competition for insulin provision?
Do you think the possibility of finding a new job makes H1B workers feel any more capable of standing up for their beliefs at work and maybe saying "No" when asked to build something evil?
America is reasonably pro-immigrant.

They just have to be legal.
My main complaint is that foreign big tech companies, or rather their shareholders, often exploit local resources like green energy, sparse living space, people’s privacy to generate large profits and take it home. Often avoiding responsibility by not paying taxes.

It’s business as usual, different industry, same shit.
The only restriction mentioned in the parent is passing a background check, there is no mention of needing a prior job offer or lodging.
nonsense. The point of a visa system is to expand the domestic labor pool.
It is true - as a part of H1B application you need to post a job advertisement in some US job board first, which becomes a part of the documentation you submit to USCIS. I went through that as a part of my own visa process.

EDIT: ok, maybe my immigration lawyer was a weirdo :)
Entirely possible, but that's not what was suggested.

I think there would also be debate around how the quota is split between categories. I highly suspect that are much few Foreign Law advisors or Psychologists attempting to get H1Bs than there are "IT/Computer Professionals" (and many less positions available for them); giving each category an equal split wouldn't be fair either.

I'm not saying there isn't a way, but it would have issues too.
Xenophobia is never natural, it's comprehensible but there are a lot of folks able to resist falling into it as a scapegoat from bad circumstance. I agree with improving society to help less folks fall into it, but I don't believe in allowing any excuses for xenophobic views.
This is great, thanks for putting it together. What's the source of your data?

It would be great to be able to sort by the median salary (maybe highlight which companies are taking advantage).

It would also be useful to compare it with "median non-H1B salary" which also might highlight where people are taking advantage.
Wow, I don't know how many people even have a degree specifically in software development or engineering! They'll have to be somewhat flexible!

> Some of the best software engineers I know

Presumably the best be ok as they'll be able to get in on the O-1 visa for people with exceptional ability? It's everyone else who will be in trouble.
This is our country, where "we" are the people who already live here. Most of us were born here, many of us moved here, but we have a pretty good thing going on. New immigration should be a net benefit for our society and it should favor the side of the workers - e.g. Americans in general - not the bottom line of a business class looking for ever cheaper labor in order to extract additional money from their efforts.

Personally I'd like to see the entire H1B program scrapped entirely. If you can't find an American to do a job, hire and train one. If you don't want to, don't do business here.

The rest of your comment is semantic quibbling. "American workers" in this context means Americans. Nothing in that phrasing implies carving the country up into ever smaller groups based on certain characteristics and including or excluding them.
What is the threshold limit for H1B wages as per new rule?
That is the opposite of what is likely. The elevation of wages for a H1B will mean the average wage in that category of work will increase, for everyone in that segment. What you suggest only makes sense if there is a fixed pot of money in the economy for all wages, which isn’t the case.
Just as an aside, the original boil the frog experiment first gave them a lobotomy. Without that they just out of the pot even with very slow temperature increases. On the other hand dump a frog in boiling water and they just die.
I likely excluded the number of US citizen direct family members, which means Canada brings in 5X per capita not 10X - or even the 20X from before. That's still a startlingly large delta.

> Forgive me if I don't care about the per-capita number of refugees in Canada.

Well then why are you replying to me?

> You are the one who is mistaken.

I'm wrong about lots of things, and my goal is always to get it right, and I've edited my responses for clarity, with a statement of why. However, the fact remains, 25X more refugees per capita and 5X more immigrants per capita is a lot.

Thank you for your help in figuring out where the delta was! I didn't mean to come off smug though, I saw other folks had varying definitions of what an "immigrant" was.
They're not saying to exclude everyone else, just that if you are here for four years getting a degree, you should be able to stay.
>> And instead of supporting the native Canadian population in having more children themselves, Canada, like most of the modern West, simply opted to replace them over time via migration.

>This doesn't make sense. The country already incentivizes child birth, and provides socialized medicine. You can't make people have children.

But this doesn't disprove the prior statement. It's possible that they're incentivizing having children, but not enough. Given the available choices of incentivizing having children even more (eg. free daycare or longer parental leave) or simply admitting more immigrants, Canada went with the latter because it's cheaper. After all, why bother letting the native population produce average workers when you can admit above average workers from across the world?
An even better example I don't know why I spaced on it.

Not that I'm complaining he was given a patent.
We're always one step behind him.
They can, but it's still a process and not as easy as saying to a prospective employer "I have an H1B that is valid until October 2025, you don't have to do anything". Further, even though it's rarer, I believe that the transfer can still be denied if USCIS decides the new position doesn't qualify.
I think that as much as possible, links to the "upgraded versions" should include links to the original (the originals are public domain now in almost every case so this shouldn't be a problem). The only danger is if people don't have the originals for reference and think that details in the "enhanced" versions (that might be completely artificial) have more reality than they do; I don't think the historians have a gripe if promoting these colorized, upsampled versions is done in a way that also promotes the originals.
I noticed today that archive.is / archive.today is not accessible if you use CloudFlare DNS (1.1.1.1). History: https://twitter.com/archiveis/status/1018691421182791680
The issue is that America is allergic to sensible regulation so never would you find a way to craft a law that allowed those 4-year bachelor degrees to be counted without pulling in all the for-profit unis and if you attempted that you'd be buried in lawsuits and public outcry.
Presumably because immigrants (especially the rich variety) drive up demand for housing.
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> After all, the point of a visa system is to constrict the pool of potential candidates anyway.

No, that's not the point. If that's what you wanted to achieve then you'd be best off not having any visa system. So obviously this is not what they're optimising for.
This is bad for the local workers. Smaller labor pool = higer wages.
NAND flash went from one layer to 128 layers over the last decade while DRAM is still one layer.
I think it goes well beyond 'writing too much code'.

If you're coding at >40wpm sustained, you're basically vomiting out code without a care in the world.

I could see people getting into trouble if they can't manage 30 wpm typing speed, which seems to disagree with what I just said, but coding often comes in little microbursts, and if it takes you too long to get an idea down, you might get distracted by something else and forget what the next step is. I believe there's a law of diminishing returns there, where going from 7 seconds to 6 has a bigger payoff than going from 4 to 3.
The percentiles are hopefully based on the region where a given employee would be working.
Not sure why the downvotes, this is factually true. When I was on an h1b I was paying for all these things while I could not take advantage of it.
>I've been looking for PC parts in the EU and there don't seem to be great choices.

Have you tried online stores in your country? At least in my country many options exist and they have competitive prices. EU-wide ecommerce is a pipe dream
> This is really bad. Families are going to get told to leave. I’m surprised that there is no discussion on this thread about the impact to people who haven’t done anything wrong.

It's not a moral issue (except for the big H-1B mills that are gaming the system.)

But nothing has changed: these are not an offer of citizenship. They are temporary work visas with no guarantees: an opportunity to do temporary specialty work in the U.S.

If someone were to bring their family, they have done so with the explicit knowledge that the situation could change at any time.
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>If the next admin wanted to change this, they have to go through the long and arduous rule making process again.

Does that also apply to rules that didn't go through that process but were rushed through with the interim final rules process? Doesn't sound logical to me.
Do you have to leave if you get fired?

Or do you get a gig, show up, quit, and then live on the dole?
Is my "local market" the entire rest of the United States? Or just my state/county/city? This still doesn't seem like you're describing a real problem.
the flagging of the dozens of posts about kobe's death over many hours certainly wasn't simply random. randomness would posit the likeliness of at least one of those stories escaping flag-death, as happened with this particular story (a number of van halen stories didn't make it to discussion, only this one).
> Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their visa will just be allowed to work remotely from India. This means the US economy will lose all the taxes and local expenditure in the economy like rent, food, travel, vacations, utilities, cars, home sales, etc. etc. And if that works out, the next hire may just be directly hired in India itself.

There's a big assumption in "Since remote work has become acceptable". Some companies are talking about making things permanent, others are already trying to get people back in the office.

And if the remote work swing is both big and permanent, then I think this is less likely a "backfire" situation and more of an "irrelevant" one. Companies looking to save money would hire in the foreign country regardless of the new rules.
AFAIK Dyno is alive for 24 hours or less +-1h, not a week.
I've had #1 multiple times. I've had articles that stayed on the front page for multiple days.

Wouldn't be surprised if I'm top 1% of personal bloggers on HN or something like that. I'd be shelling out AWS thousands of dollars over the years if I were using anything AWS, or more likely I'd be either broke or the blog would have crumbled under the traffic each time never going viral.
This has always confused me. What is going on when someone's site is taken down by HN traffic? (Maybe the fact it's on HN when this occurs is just coincidence: maybe the real traffic loads are always from reddit or twitter or something in these cases?)

(My experience with high-ranking HN posts: initially with DreamHost, later with cheapest AWS ec2—never a noticeable impact with either)
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If it was we’d lose half the voting populace.
But still, you want that shortage to stay there for a while, because that provides the incentive to US universities to create more spots in CS programs for US teenagers. If you go straight to hiring foreigners you are leaving US kids behind.
Forgive me for being direct, but I only wanted to respond to the idea that there are no arguments, or rather, to point out the existence of the arguments if you don't know about them. I didn't want to make any claim as to the validity of the arguments beyond the fact that I think they're convincing, and in general, a large portion of professional philosophers consider them to be too. That doesn't mean they are correct of course (in part or entirely), only that they have some serious weight in the development of moral philosophy.

I find it pretty easy to accept some of the arguments within a certain framework, even if I don't subscribe to the framework itself. For instance, I might think that God may have or not have certain qualities or attributes, according to a theological framework, even though I am an atheist, and the question of God is not at all relevant to me. I operate the same way about many moral questions.

On the other hand, I also realize I should spend some time backing up and at least thinking about my alternatives, even if they are 'null' alternatives where I believe the burden of proof is on someone else. With regard to moral nihilism and the burden of proof, for instance, the moral skeptic may need to explain why moral intuitions are not a good starting point (or dismiss the role of intuition entirely, but she still needs an argument). A moral non-cognitivist needs to get around the embedding problem, for instance too.