User croon has ‘checked out’. I think we can shelf the dick and good faith discussion.

To you, kelnos:

1. Sub replacement fertility rates in countries like Italy has already led to Natalist policies.*

2. The world will do better economically with a lower fertility/sub replacement rate. Why? Because the notions of money and currency is changing. Automation will reduce jobs and wages.

3. When technology will replace human labour faster than ever before in our history, we can no longer relate to replacement rate of population as an indicator of economic growth.

4. With eventual UBI adoption and possibly crypto that will change how we see ‘money’ as a financial construct, the old rules NO LONGER APPLY.

5. Being in the middle of the sixth extinction event and being a super apex predator, a higher population is guaranteed to accelerate our extinction as a species sooner than a sub replacement fertility rate.
6. In the event of a catastrophe or unforeseen disaster, we should have our genetic material preserved in a gene vault. Like a seed vault.
6. If the climate crisis becomes worse before it becomes better(which it is guaranteed to be..), then we need a robust, healthy population that will likely have to deal with a nomadic lifestyle.
7. We are no longer at the mercy of good old fashioned boinking and breeding to perpetuate the human species. We need to protect our environment instead of looking to perpetuate our own gene pool.
7. HALF a surviving child per person or a replacement fertility rate of 1.00/woman should bring us back to carrying capacity of our planet.

8. It is also likely that we will discover anti ageing technologies and perhaps even become hybrid carbon-silicon based life forms.

We can’t breed ourselves to extinction. At the current rate of consumption due to exponential population increase, if we don’t control population before the inevitable depopulation occurs in terrible and devastating ways, we won’t have any resources left in the only planet that sustains life as we know it.

*[..]Some governments, fearful of a future pensions crisis, have developed natalist policies to attempt to encourage more women to have children. Measures include increasing tax allowances for working parents, improving child-care provision, reducing working hours/weekend working in female-dominated professions such as healthcare and a stricter enforcement of anti-discrimination measures to prevent professional women's promotion prospects being hindered when they take time off work to care for children. Over recent years, the fertility rate has increased to around 2.0 in France and 1.9 in Britain and some other northern European countries, [..]

[..] In Italy, for example, natalist policies may have actually discouraged the Italian population from having more children. This "widespread resistance" was the result of the Italian government, at one point,[when?] taxing single persons and criminalizing abortion and even contraception.[..]

European analysts hope, with the help of government incentives and large-scale change towards family-friendly policies, to stall the population decline and reverse it by around 2030, expecting that most of Europe will have a slight natural increase by then.[..] <—- if this isn’t eugenics, I don’t know what is...whatever economic benefit increased population has, immigration and automation tech will compensate.