skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
There is a potential solution: how about an app like fortnite to charge the users 30% more and be transparent about it if they use the App Store to buy? Is that against the App Store TOS? There has to be a way for the costs to be made transparent so users can make an informed choice. It doesn’t have to be these large lawsuits?
That's if you draw the bounds artificially on the iOS ecosystem, then yes. Apple is famous for creating an end-to-end experience, so if you consider the products as App store ecosystem and iOS device, then you are encroaching on their product experience that they are selling.

Not to mention Apple is charging the standard rate similar platforms are charging.
> Producing Open Source Software
> How to Run a Successful Free Software Project

I feel like mixing these terms up might put off RMS, amongst others?
The Tech Behind Google’s ML Solution for Accurate Depth Estimation
As if "allow sideloading" is just some boolean flag in the iOS source. Enabling it would have seriuos implications for iOS and for Apple (no matter where from a user download some shady app Apple suddenly becomes responsible).
I would argue Apple is very protectful of their platform, at the expense of the users. Of course in some cases, such as with privacy, what is good for the user is also good for Apple, because they get an additional selling point compared to the competition.

In my opinion, an example of Apple practices which are bad for customers is their line on progressive web apps. Apple limits support as they cannot keep control of their platform and revenue stream. I would argue however, that installable web apps are great for user experience, especially since it helps less resourceful businesses provide a good product for mobile devices. I'll admit there are privacy concerns regarding access to phone features from a web app, so Apple's arguments in blocking some (but not all) of these have some merit.

If you look beyond just the App Store policies, this general practice appears to me to limit innovation on the web platform, as Apple is invested in keeping apps the only first class citizen on their platform.
Yes, I always compare it to a beefy Amstrad PC1512, my first PC used at the high school computer club to play Defender of the Crown with beautiful EGA graphics.
if you are a user then you use a distribution, say Debian,Arch. This distro could setup whatever store, repo and keys they want and Canonical is not forcing themselves on other distributions (it is not systemd).

I am looking at this from a dev point of view, you are asking to prioritize a feature that almost nobody will use over other high priority tasks. The article mentions Canonical did this mistake in the past with Launchpad and it was for nothing. The store code seems to be a mess and you can't just drop the code and GitHub and you are done, it is a lot of work to refactor the code. Same for the client, it is a of work to correctly add the feature to support multiple repositories, if it was only 1 day work somebody would have forked the client, patch it and published it already.

After you work as a developer and see many bugs or problems you look at things differently, for example as a dev I could allow access to an advanced feature in my app, it seems to be just a few lines of extra code. But the reality is that this costs more

- maintenance cost as the software evolves and things under the hood change

- this new feature needs to be documented, someone needs to write documentation, maybe record videos so the minimum number of people contacts support for help

- people don't read documentation so people will contact support and complain that the feature is not working as they expected or that is should have more X or Y

- since is an advanced feature some people might break their stuff and then complain and make a lot of noise and as a dev I need to go and add many checks in the code to prevent people breaking their shit.
I consider myself left and i do not think that. I don't think this type of generic mud slinging adds anything to the conversation especially when it is not based on verifiable facts.
> they provide completely different services

there's only so much difference there can be between two app stores; if they were completely different, one wouldn't be an app store
Charles Sanders Peirce and the first absolute measurement standard (2009)
For starters it shares less data with Google by default and is not subsidised by privacy invasion.
Tangential but something that have been buging me for a while - these type events are not enough brought in to the equation when EVs are compared to ICEs.

I usually get comparisons to the refined gas/diesel with the whole process of the battery.

Not saying batteries are great for the environment, but we have had so many leaks during the years. Deep horizon is still leaking and where almost at 1.000.000 m3 if I recall correctly.

At least with batteries the pollution is kept more localized, which I believe is to be preferred.
I think so too but I don't buy Apple in that case. I have spend < 10$ on apps from stores and it was mostly just a test for me. I don't like smartphones as software platforms at all, I think we could have done much better than what the market supplies but I have niche expectations the common companies cannot fulfill. That said, the casual users in my circle don't spend anything on apps either. That isn't a good solution as well, since the alternatives finance themselves via adds.

Before app stores, you could actually get real free software that didn't use customer data to finance themselves. Sustainable as a business? Perhaps not, but certainly an advantage to users.
Sounds like a better system is to have minimum requirements, whereby those that meet them are likely to graduate. And then a lottery.

Everything else is just a new set of rules to game.
Apple fighting a losing battle here, I think. Probably best approach is to reduce their cut. They may find total revenue increases in the long term anyway.
So.. how would this be different from the Macedonian troll farms or Cambridge’s media manipulation?

You seem proud of the technical product you built, but have you considered how it can and probably will be abused?
We don't need another platform, Apple just needs to be prevented from abusing their power over the platform to coerce customers and partners to give them a large cut of each transaction. It's easily done with a bit of legislation.

Apple don't keep other browsers off to keep electron out or make things safer, it is to ensure they have complete control of the web platform, which otherwise is a viable alternative to their app store, just the sort of alternative you're suggesting in fact.

Capitalism needs regulation to work well, if unregulated, it very quickly gives rise to robber barons and bullying of both consumers and smaller companies. Unfettered capitalism leads to monopolies, coercion and rent-seeking.
> iOS 14 already caught many apps (including Discord and Instagram) stealing our clipboard data and secretly accessing camera, mic and location.

Not really, this has just been a PR exercise that I'm watching with fascination - the real news is that they've shifted focus away from their own shortcomings. The real news here is that iOs14 allows unrestricted clipboard access. Think about that for a moment. Instead of actually fixing the issue, they choose to highlight it and call out apps for using the platform in a way they have allowed.
You mean there is actually software out in the wild that is "done" i.e finished !
> Congress has been influenced by competitors to get the USPS to abandon new products such as online payment systems,

What does that have to do with the USPS’s mandate to deliver mail?

All of your points are presented as facts. Can you explain how they have anything to do with the current discussion about keeping the USPS’s capability to deliver mail and ballots ?
And apple blocked fortnite for doing the same on iOS. How much more hypocrite can Apple get? #FreeFortnite
America has had a form of wealth tax for a very long time now, but oddly only applied to real estate (property tax), this isn't as Weird as it sounds, nor is it a novel idea - many countries have a wealth tax.
The two problems pointed by the article - light pollution caused by high reflectivity and potential crashes appear to be difficult to solve because solving one makes the other worse.

If the satellites tried to become more difficult to detect, perhaps with light absorbent coating they would also become more difficult to detect by other satellites in orbit.
Has anyone experimented with DIY electric hydrofoil boats or surfboards? it looks like fun

https://efoil.builders/
All: don't miss that there are multiple pages of comments in this thread. That's what the More link at the bottom points to. Or click these:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24146987&p=2

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24146987&p=3
It's amazing the mental gymnastics people will go through to justify their own beliefs.

If it has the power to jail and kill, that'll make it much more like a government than you like to admit.
> It's not the developers that are paying this cost -- this is what you are paying to Apple for each app.

Is that right though? Is the economics as simplistic as that? Could it be that Apple can now bring down iPhone device prices while hitting the revenue targets they have in mind offset from services, effective benefiting iPhone SE 2020 consumers? Could it be that the cost of running the store, marketing and distribution and properly reviewing all the free apps that I actually use is subsidized by the minority of apps that are paid or have in app purchases? To say that the user is burdened by the entire 30% directly is quite an overreach. How do we know the developers won’t pocket the additional margin and keep prices at the current rate? (my bet is this, actually).

For me personally who almost never used a paid app, I can assure you that the 30% is not paid by me. I may have even benefited through iPhones cheaper than hypothetical price that Apple has to sell them without AppStore revenue potential. I certainly benefited by AppStore vetting shitty apps.

This is a business model choice and banning it is like saying Google Drive is not supposed to charge paid users more to subsidize free quotas.
Trump has only been in power for a few years, so it’s really nothing to do with him. There are enough things we can legitimately lay at his door without making stretches like that.
I think your salary estimates aren't high enough. In California you're paying around 35% in state/fed income taxes, which means that with $225k gross you have $145k net of taxes and under $100k after living expenses. With $325k gross you're $160k after taxes and living expenses. Even starting at the top of your range, it gets you just over halfway there before investment gains.
No, I don't save every page that might be useful. But I do save some content if I notice that I keep referring to it multiple times.

However, that is just information and that is not what I am talking about. I am talking about tools and things that stop functioning because they need some free service on the internet to work. Yes, all my projects and tools can work without internet access. Sure, they might not get updated anymore, but they will keep functioning and I could continue living my live no matter what shuts down.

This even extends to non-free services. For instance, I don't use Spotify, even though it is a nice product and I love exploring new music. But if there was a change of service, Trump decides to block my country economically or something like that, and I am kicked off the platform, I would suddenly have no music anymore, even though I would have paid for it for years. So I buy cd's and vinyl instead and rip them to flac.
A big part of the value of iPhones and iPads is that you don't have to worry about installing an app that screws up your system and requires a wipe & reinstall.

Security doesn't require a 30% cut of every transaction though, nor does it require them to ban other payment methods. Apple should be forced to compete on a level playing field, rather than leveraging their platform to bully other companies into compliance.
Why do good students have more of a right to attend elite colleges than other students?

Why don’t we prefer hard working students or students that played the most sports? There’s nothing inherently special about being a good student.
I don't for a second doubt that a single person in this age could spin up a site. In fact, looking at the source, it shows that it's Wordpress. However, even the best webdev has their blind spots, but this site somehow covers them all: seeing the need for a slogan, no grammar/style issues in the writing, all claims are sourced, even the disclaimer, etc. Also, the whole storefront thing is very sus, as it seems the point is to spread the slogans. In fact, there's even a new feature at the bottom of the page to "send this to a friend".
And $25 for distribution on the store.

So what, if those $100 prevent shitty copy-cats, the more the better.
You have situations where Samsung Store had a free subscription to the app Lifesum whilst the Play Store you have to pay.

In fact some of the apps could only be found on Samsung Store and it’s bundled in and from my recollection couldn’t be removed easily.

Some apps would even demand your contacts to start on Android to send to China, but on iOS wouldn’t because it’s a breach of the ToS to completely stop working with partial permissions.

Then you have the latest Android which crashes the sideloaded apps that ask for permission:
https://bgr.com/2020/06/04/android-11-beta-sideloading-apps-...

I’m happy that the major mobile os is all about choice, but Apple shouldn’t follow in Googles fragmented, “let the user shoot themselves in the foot”-ways.

Would Apple become the most popular mobile os I’d hope they gave more freedom and fragmented the system but until then it’s the garden of eve that I feel comfortable with. I’m happy software companies for once gets some demands that cannot be rounded instead of this wild wild west.
A) the same information has been already posted in many comments on this thread. No need to shill like this.

B) that's not even the point. It's not about the rules but about Apple's hypocrisy, since in this case they don't care about all the values they used as excuse to prevent other devs from doing on the app store what Apple is doing on the play store.
Yes, I dislike and disagree with him but it's ridiculous how everything is automatically his fault and a wrong position just because Trump supported it.
I'm not an expert but can't you setup network level monitoring and employ ipfiltering when threshold of network usage is crossed.
It seems to me that failure and a real reversal of the course China was on started from 2012 when Xi got power, so yes. Could have happened anyways of course but the change was drastic and clear from that point on.
They can then leave the walled garden and buy cheaper apps on android and if they are satisfied with that, good for them.
I absolutely relish Apple’s walled garden, not just for me, but for my aged parents and aunts whom I help with their devices. Barely any UI differences, security for inept or careless users. And I know that the UI will move at a glacial pace, which is a feature for that demographics.
Lock it down by default, but allow users to unlock it. Make it a bit hard, like the carrier-lock. You have your walled garden and I have my device.
I absolutely disagree that apps and spas would destroy nerfed HTML, in your example.

The web moved in those directions for a multitude of reasons, but user experience isnt necessarily one of them. Server side rendering and a miniscule amount of js can give a great fast experience, and doesn't require the site to use a proprietary layout toolkit. An HTML SSA app, where the user controlled the UI toolkit in browser would be pleasant and easier to develop.
Don't forget that Apple is a multinational megacorp, and is user centric only when it suits them. Consider Tim Cook speaking at the conference used by the Chinese government to promote internet regulation, saying that the vision of the conference is one that Apple shares, and also the handing over of user data to Chinese servers (encrypted, but still out of their control).
> there's only so much difference there can be between two app stores

Yes, which is why I mentioned what those differences were in my comment.
Choosing one App store (for either developer or consumer) doesn't prevent you from also choosing the other.
> I can freely criticize the government but criticizing the corporation is often difficult.

What do you mean by this?

Google is a smoking pile of dumpster fires filled with turds.

Should I now expect Google agents to come to my house and disappear my family and I?
Cassowary was suggested to w3c in 1999 IIRC, but was rejected. Even though the concerns are understandable at the time (processing requirements), it's still a sad development.

EDIT: A better description from the author of css-layout: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13125160
They don't want to alienate Chinese members so they go to great lengths to prevent the code of conduct from outright prohibiting participation in the creation of things like the systems used to control and oppress the Uyghurs, etc.
Yes. China didn't change its behaviour toward more openness before Trump. Trump forced the conflict about this into the open in his usual charming way. But there was no opening process that Trump interrupted.
Other than scale I really don't see the difference between '''desicrating''' a skyline with ugly[0] architecture and starlink et al.

Sure some architecture stays ugly - but preserving the aesthetics of a sky(line) ranks really low on my list of things that are worth stopping progress over.
Can you explain what you mean by DDoS attack in the context of mail server? Are you just getting a lot of network traffic (for example, just open connections on smtp/imap ports) or are you getting all sorts of spam (like an email bomb)?
I found a ready-made image with some good insights
https://gioorgi.com/tag/mailserver/
But DDoS is not easy to manage
And do you feel good about it?

Technicaly it is a achievement, but are those vague things like ethics a concern to you?
It creates multiple places to look for payments. Also, if the price is 0.99 vs 1.29 I would feel bad if I opt out for 1.29 with Apple despite the fact that 0.3p isn't changing anything for me but I would feel obligated to enter CC details to get the discount(Yes I know it's not logical but Humans, Aye? If people were logical half of the economy wouldn't be around). It's a friction I don't want to have in my life.

The ideal solution for me is, Apple Pay being an open protocol and I can add payment methods to Apple Pay, can track all payments from a single UI. Then I would be O.K. with being offered %30 discount if I pay with "Epic Card" payment method(form the same payment UI).
I think parent meant big wins in physics, where the search started well over a decade ago. See e.g. the dates of the references here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_quantum_mechanics#...
Oil extraction issues comes up all of the time in the discussion of fossil fuels vs electric.
Thanks - will strace attached to the master Varnish process do the job?
The difference with Steam is that there is an alternative - there wouldn’t be a problem if Apple let you sideload apps or alternative app stores that could compete.
Any chance you would be willing to share the (finetuned) models? For science? I’m interested in detection and want to look at artifacts common to speech audio generated by different models all based on the same overall implementation.
Why do you think I'm supporting Google? Google is worse. I'm saying apple doesn't go through the play store on Android. Is no convenience or security needed there?

> because they provide completely different services

They provide the exact same thing. Review process is not related to the service they provide. It is related to devs putting their app on the store.

> Google prices some services differently, and Apple is 100% playing by the rules.

Apple does the same thing with Amazon. They also demand a fee on iOS, while taking a freeride on Android.

> What phone number do I call for a billing issue with Google

You didn't say what billing issue. A quick search gave me this number 1-877-355-5787 . I'm not tech support.
> Apple provides useful services with its App Store: filtration and curation.

Yes, App Store does provide value and it can charge a cut. Having said that, Apple should equally provide a way to host different independent app stores just like Windows does.

Imagine on Windows/Linux/MacOS you could install software only from one corporate controlled store. Would you be fine with that?
> Amazon works toward improving mine and millions of others daily lives

... thousands of small businesses and millions of retail workers are so thankful for this "improvement". The day is nigh where you and I will also get "improved", hopefully!
Imagine a down-voting button for search results. Had it not been so easy to abuse this might be a solution to this conundrum.
Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN. It's not what this site is for. Plenty of commenters are expressing views similar to yours without breaking the site guidelines. If you'd please read them and stick to the rules, we'd be grateful.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Gadgetbridge (FLOSS gadget companion app) adding support for Mi Band 5 and TLW64
Why design systems fail, and how to make them work
It's not a big deal. Average american drives what 12,000 miles per year? Or 32 miles per day. My car (m3) has a 75kwh battery and has a range of 310 miles or so. So I need (on average) 10.3% of a battery charge or 7.75 kwh. Most people are home for 12 hours a night, so 650 watts. So sure peak might be 3.5-7kw, but the average car load will be much less.. 5-10x less. Keep in mind that the average car lasts 8 years (claims consumer reports), but seems like bad economy is causing that to head higher. So even if 10% of the cars per year switch to electric that's not really all that much power. Especially with wind, solar (both home and utility scale), battery storage (both home and utility), hydro, etc ramping up. The hardest thing for most grids to handle is peak loads on hot days where a fairly large fraction of home AC are running, now that's a load that makes charging an electric car look easy. E-cars by nature tend to balance the load and make the grid easier to design and maintain. Sure tax incentives for storage, wind, and solar should continue. California's SGIP program seems particularly effective. Solar+Storage solutions get a big break, and the grid can make do with less peaker plants because they can tap into residential installed power walls all over the state to handle the peaks that used to require spinning up the least efficient/most expenisve peaker plants.
Arecibo?
Makes me want to listen to Carbon Based Lifeforms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifiICunJ-ZA
Thats already the case , it’s Windows S.

But you have the choice between regular Windows and Locked down version.
Fortunately, almost nobody really cares.
We don't have to miss them, because we live them every single day on Android.
Yes, not to say that Russia was a beneficiary of all of that was more than an understatement. The end result of that was the closure of USA base there, at a laughable cost for the Kremlin.

It does not still negate the fact that Bakiyev totally deserved that outcome, as an amoral, corrupt, and incompetent president, regardless of whom capitalised on the outcome of his ousting.

USA has a terrible talent betting on political leaders who are almost certain to lose power.
I dont see the big deal to be honest. If youre using == you're probably approaching the conditional too sloppily to begin with