skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Be that as it may, I interpreted the plain statement as an attempted refutation of the contents of the article. The author of the article directly mentions the sentiment, which I take as an indicator that they believe it will be adequately addressed. So I believe that a claim to the contrary must include an explaination of why they believe the author did not address this point, rather than just reiterating it as though it were a new or novel idea in the discussion. As it stands, without acknowledging that the author already expressed this same sentiment, I have to conclude that GP did not read it.
> Is this really the trichotomy of the Bay area?

From 10,000 ft, pretty much, although with any topic as complex as this, much nuance lost in the caricature. There are significant shades of gray between these three broad groups. I know households with blue collar workers married to doctors for example, and teachers married to property developers.

Where you really find the caricatures in this story are in households where all the workers are either highly compensated or very low compensated, or somewhere in between.

> Is this really the trichotomy of the Bay area? I thought it was interesting that none of these groups are turned out to be Trump supporters.

It's not terribly surprising though. The only population of the Bay Area who has a strong shared interest with the current POTUS is the wealthy established professional and capitalist class. Many of them still wouldn't openly support POTUS because of their disagreements on social and cultural issues - they are the "racism/homophobia is horrible but don't raise my taxes" crowd, which around here slots you a conservative Democrat.

And sure, there are xenophobes and ethno-nationalists in the Bay Area just like everywhere, but statistically there are fewer of them here than you'll find in other parts of the country more friendly to the current POTUS, so there's no point in calling them out as a major group around here.

Also lot of people in the elite group described in the article have close family "back home" that do fit the description of POTUS supporters, which is sort of a flaw of this article in that it only attributes such relationships to the blue collar class, when in fact they're quite ubiquitous. So much so that it has caused rifts between such people and their families. I am myself just such a person.
The author is painting with a broad brush but some of it does resonate with me. Realistically most people I know are a combination of two or more of those "bay areas". Although I was not from the bay area "proper" as many "true bay area people" would remind me being from the most southern town in Santa Clara county :)
Those are reasonable points that are entirely irrelevant to mine, which was about how you misrepresented ponker's position through your asinine, insulting "in your way of thinking" question.

You didn't even have to stretch for a charitable interpretation: the surface reading was perfectly decent. Instead you either thought they were making some ludicrous generalization about newsworthiness for all time, or found it rhetorically useful to seem to think that. In either case your comment provided negative value.
Apparently not obeying those pesky government laws.
So are you claiming Uber drivers buy cars solely for the purpose of becoming Uber drivers?
Running red lights, getting stuck in intersections, doing 20kmh under the speed limit in the fast lane, drifting between lanes without indicating or looking first, speeding when there's an overtaking lane and then slowing back down when it's finished. The usual.
> labor unions and elected officials contend this deprives them of traditional benefits like health insurance and workers’ compensation

This is the real problem that needs to be fixed. Most other developed nations have affordable, if not universal health care that isn't tied to their employment. The status of Lyft/Uber drivers wouldn't be as much of an issue if this was solved.
or they will be kicked out to states that does allow these jobs
I was referring to what the parent wrote:

> ITT: everyone pretending they've never burned hours troubleshooting only to find a stupid `=` instead of a `==`.

In the general case that OP was talking about, not for underhanded code, my comment holds.
It would be interesting to let passengers have a slider that let them show how price sensitive they were and the drivers were able to set a minimum price for total (driving to passenger + driving to destination). Maybe you'd be willing to wait for 15 minutes if Driver B would be cheaper than Driver A, even though Driver A was 3 minutes away.

Even better (if drivers are really treated as contractors) would be to show you the rates from Driver A, Driver B, and Driver C and you can pick one:

Driver A: 23 minutes, $20
Driver B: 35 minutes, $15
Driver C: 30 minutes, $18

The issue for Uber/Lyft is they're focusing on the ride and that's nice - I don't know that drivers rejected me since they're just showing the ride cost from Point A to Point B. But that ignores actual driving time for the drivers, plus that they might end up in an undesirable area.
Flextime does not mean you can work 5 hours per week.
I'm new to US politics, however I'm extremely surprised at how frequently the concept of voter suppression comes up. It seems completely anti-democracy.

I've never really come across this phrase in UK politics. If it was to come up, I'm certain it would be met with extreme outrage. Why is it just accepted in the US?!
The tragic physics of the deadly explosion in Beirut
I was off in my math however, I'm seeing 250/day since 8/1 [1]. Yeah, I do consider that to be negligible, since it's going down or staying flat, not moving up, and the death rate remains zero.

[1] https://www.coronatracker.com/country/sweden/
Don’t give them a number. Instead reflect the question back at them by asking for the range for the role. Giving up any information at this point loses you leverage and gives them something to anchor on even if it is much higher than your expectations.

PS. I’m one of the founders of http://levels.fyi and we help folks out with this quite a bit
I ask the range, and if they don't want to give one, I ask for an unusually high but still realistic rate.
You could even do that before XmlHttpRequest, and on non-MS browsers. But it was unusual for anyone to bother.

People mostly didn't think of it until XHR became popular.
>Leave it to California to stick it to a company losing $7 billion per year trying to find its footing.

Uber has spent their entire existence dancing in legal gray areas. It's hard to have a ton of sympathy for them when their over-generous re-interpretations of the law bite them in the ass on occasion.

> Drivers are voluntarily entering into the current work arrangement. Why does the government need to have an opinion on the matter?

This is the argument used against every single labor law ever passed. It's not even an argument.

Our government and current economy is poorly equipped to handle the gig-economy. This decision doesn't really help it, but maybe it will motivate some lawmakers to try and address it longer term.
Surely sending half a dozen ballots to the same address, for all the previous tenants from the last half decade, "enables fraud" if the person living there is so inclined.
Imagine the fun metagames this would cause. If the government took Uber's stick away, the company would be forced to find a rate at which they'd have enough drivers to allow for reasonably short pickup time. Drivers then could, over their local "$city Uber drivers" FB/WhatsApp group, agree to not take any ride below $X, thus forcing Uber to raise their rates to $X (+ Uber's cut).

(While dropping drivers from the platform if they refuse too many rides doesn't make such collusion impossible in theory, it introduces enough individual risk to make such coordination unlikely in practice.)
The IDs that are required to vote in Republican states are either free of charge, or they allow alternative ID documents.

Texas being a fine example: https://www.votetexas.gov/mobile/id-faqs.htm

There are free options that are easy to aquire. Not sure why there are so many myths about this.

The WaPo article has some glaring falsehoods. Of course in Texas you can vote with your concealed handgun license, it's the hardest one to get.
For me it's the exact opposite -- always on mobile, always when logged out (haven't extensively tested being logged in on mobile, since I'm barely logged in to Twitter on mobile.)
I found this to be a well researched and very relatable piece of journalism with respect to the explosion in Beirut.
Well, funnily enough, I'm not in the US either.
This article is bullshit. A house in Potrero for under two million?
It is not honest, as an app advertiser you do not use the IDFA to track people outside your app, you just want to know from what advertising campaign it came. Websites do not even have access to it.
> flexibility to decide their own hours

That is possible for employees as well. Part time employment is also possible. What is different is ability to set rates etc.
Does anyone know if there has ever been experimentation with training octopuses to use some kind of user interface (buttons, dials, sliders, joysticks) with a grayscale screen or some other kind of modulated output to solve problems for rewards?

Could an octopus learn to play Super Mario Bros or Pac-Man to beat levels for crab?

If we could find a reliable way to teach an input language to an octopus we could start probing what classes of problems are easier or harder for them solve. We could develop octopus input devices that maximize the size of the 'octo-bus', and find ways to give them an "immersive experience" by modulating their environment (temp, salinity, pH, etc) as feedback.

Anyone with me on this? I haven't found anything, but I don't know if my "dorking" is up to par.
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How is California enforcing it's laws a repeat of a medallion licensing system?
Yeah, if only, but it was never going to happen with Trump in office. Everything is far too personal even beyond the gutting of institutions that's happened.

It's crazy to me that things like temperature checks aren't more common, it's a relatively easy way to get control and open up more safely, but then the US isn't great at collective action. We're individualistic and contrarian to a fault.
I would love to test this theory.

Imagine a state completely waives their fees for a State ID (usually only $10-20 anyway) in exchange for Voter ID laws. Do you think progressives could support it then? Would you?
You're missing my point. EarthIsHome is arguing that someone with that amount of money could give it directly to people in need, which would do the most good for those people right now. bluedevil2k is arguing that it's better to fund research that might help a potentially greater number of people who would need it at some point in the future. bluedevil2k noted that even if Bill Gates helped a million people today, it would be futile because sickness would still exist. The dismissal implies that regardless of how many people's suffering could be alleviated today, it's still preferable to invest in future research. My comment is meant to underline that point. I want to see if there's a point of compromise between these standpoints.
Isn't selecting their own job - at least a bit related to selecting their own rate..

I guess uber could put the jobs up for bid.. to address that.
That is true of most drivers who depend on the income for a living.
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You are expecting that Uber/Lyft creates an "auction" environment in order for their drivers to be considered contractors? In my world view, an auction is not requirement for a driver to be considered independent. Drivers can:

- drive on their own schedule
- drive for competing ride share services (concurrently even)
- drive for themselves
- not drive at all

Seems very independent contractor. Uber/Lyft created a marketplace; drivers are agreeing to drive within the constraints of that marketplace. They can also create their own customer relationships and ride share marketplace if they choose.

If Uber/Lyft imposed restrictions on things like who a driver could give rides to or restricted concurrent ride share engagements, then that starts to feel like an employee. Rates have very little to do with it, in my humble opinion.
This is an excellent microcosm of the problems searchers of extraterrestrial intelligence face.
> To some degree (and I suspect, to a similar degree to pedophiles) it has, see my comment here[1]. Exposure to pornography is usually shown to trigger or at least intensify feelings of sexual agression, either physical or verbal, even in non-experimental studies.

Do they climax or simply look at the images in an experimental lab setting?

Do they have a secondary condition? Do they have POCD?

> Is this true of all pedophiles generally based on a sample of the pedophile population, or those recruited to take part in such a study after being convicted of child abuse (contact or non-contact) offences? I can very easily see the fact they've been convicted as being a huge confounder here.

Many studies are done in a clinical setting. Someone who has self-control issues is more likely to go to a shrink for those issues than someone who does not. Other studies are done in a criminal justice setting which is similar.
:) Learning from each other will continue. Especially how to bypass govt erected half baked BS.
That isn't remotely what the comment you're replying to said. I agree that thinking about the gig economy as a different type of worker opens to door to a "how might we" conversation where everyone has the opportunity to win.
I would argue that even the appearance of taking someone else's work should be a damning blow to Google internally. Google prides itself of having some of the world's best academic researchers under their roof, and plagiarism in an academic context is usually a career-ending affair.

I finally understand what people meant when they would say "for some people, the Internet is Google". Google started off as a search engine, and many people were able to search for answers to their questions such that Google's search engine became the de facto platform for question-answering for this group of people. Over time, Google developed capabilities or acquired capabilities in answering questions in growing number of niches e.g. scraping websites for snippets like in this article or acquiring companies that had developed this sort of capabilities like ITA for flights [0]. As a result, the Google platform that is search started to vertically integrate these different niches bit by bit starving out incumbent competitors via prioritization of search results.

I can can think of one analogy that would be more obviously problematic and troubling: imagine a library system spread across a large geographic area with many branches that was wealthy enough to buy their own book publisher. Maybe it starts out with non-fiction and the quality of the published books remains high. What if the library system then started to prefer this associated publisher? At one point, the library network might end up saying that the other non-fiction books published in the same time period are not being lent out enough to be worth stocking, and so removes / puts them away in long-term storage. One day this library system buys a new publisher, but this time it is fiction, but maybe just one genre like adventure or children's books. Then, the same pattern of behavior emerges.

The library system / network I described above sounds like a very useful and successful platform: almost like a public utility.

Another example might be a telegraph / telephone company anytime before ~1950 buying national newspapers.

[0] https://www.google.com/press/ita/comp.html
This is cool! I imagine this might be too far off your intended use case for now, but Rally feels really close to the perfect solution for live performances. Rather than breaking off into tables, you could use your "ambient sound" feature to lower the sound of all the audience members, so that you can enjoy the response of a crowd without drowning out the performers.
Same thing with PayPal
You'd think a multi-billion-dollar company with so many smart engineers could figure out how to fit both types of work into their system, if it really mattered. Silicon Valley exceptionalism is a garbage dream if paying your workers minimum wage and having flexible schedules at the same time is an insurmountable challenge.
If that's the case why would it be an ocean at all, rather than a block of ice?
Earth might have a subsurface ocean as well [1], though I haven't found any follow up since 2014 on that one.

[1] http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1253358
Uber drivers can set their own rates in some parts of CA [0]. It’s a pretty big change brought out by these lawsuits to make the drivers as independent as possible.

0 - https://www.npr.org/2020/01/28/800437791/due-to-new-californ...
Do uber drivers really not want or need cars for anything other than uber? Some of the places I get uber - there are no sidewalks.

One irony, all the gig economy workers do make a car a LOT less necessary if you are in an area well served by them.
What of the lack of atmosphere and lack of active mantle/core? Solar energy has little chance of staying within the system.
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Good response ...

Let me just emphasise that much of what I was talking about isn't just a case of me not immediately seeing what it does, but impacts what your product should, even must, do. These are real concerns that I've mentioned, so if your product doesn't do these things, then I'd need to know why they don't matter.

Things like imports, exports, encryption, etc. ... if you don't already have these capabilities, you'll need to make it clear why they don't matter, or aren't an issue.

And so on.

So good luck, make sure you write a clean, clear, brief explanation, and submit that so we can see if. Remember, every sentence you write should give me a reason to read the next one.

Cheers!
Thanks for pointing this out - in SF there was an intentional effort to destroy the employee taxi driver system in the late 70s. This is talked about at length in the article you linked to.

Many other places still have working employee systems for taxis. SF could too if they wanted to change this law.
A google scholar search for "amd security" turns up less than 100k results while a search for "intel security" has <2 million results.
Democrats aren't the ones pushing to lock people out of voting. Republicans are the only ones pushing actively for and currently dependent on minoritarian rule.
Owkwa beltalowda!
I hope sharing a Prager U video is sarcasm.
"It's a personal decision"

It's not a decision if they have no choice in the matter (one way or another).

Large companies can use their massive leverage to force sub-optimal conditions which are in their favour.

Though there are definitely arguments to be made for 'prefer contractor' - there is no doubt, that on the aggregate, there are huge, systematic problems with the new 'gig economy' that need to be sorted out.

Free markets work when people have skills and at least some leverage, but at the bottom end, where people are less skilled, it doesn't work well, which is why we need to have minimum wage, possibly unions in some cases etc..

New economy, new rules.
That is total BS in california then - if an employer is paying you by the hour for your time, while you are collecting that money they HAVE to be able to expect you are working for them (only).

This idea that uber / lyft drivers (both phones are always running) can work for BOTH companies at the same time seems ridiculous to me.
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Hm, that is a good question. Evolutionarily, there is not necessarily any benefit for the octopus to being conscious of color, but there has to be some way in which its body, if only mechanically, "perceives" color and imitates it.
I think React hooks are silly but Redux is an OK solution to a certain problem, and one of the nicer major libraries in all of JavaScript land, wildly better than almost anything else of similar prominence (it's fairly small and IIRC it has one dependency, with one other transitive dependency, and that's it). I don't see the philosophical or practical connection between the two.
Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? That's just a corollary. Yes - what you just said is logically consistent.
If your Bitwarden credentials are compromised, though, all your accounts are available.

Much better to keep TOTP credentials in Authy, secured with a password that isn't in Bitwarden.
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Good question, whats our metric to evaluate best?
The cost in Argentina is of US$3, and it is not necessary to get a new one for each election. You get one when you are born, a new card at 8 yeas old and a new one at 14 years old.

And if you can't pay for it, the government give it for free anyway.
Not sure about Chinese, but Japanese food in UK is mostly not edible, by my standards at least. Being fusion is a huge disadvantage for me. I go to Japanese restaurant when I want to taste original Japanese cuisine not some generic Asian mishmash. Either this or some obscure version of the dishes. Like, where does it come from that kare (curry) must always be katsu? Funnily enough this katsu is chicken. First time in my life I see katsu chicken. It should be pork. Or katsudon without an egg on top. Or tonkotsu ramen (in super hyper popular and regarded place) that doesn't look nor taste like one. It was good enough ramen, but why call it tonkotsu if it doesn't resemble it? Sure there are one or two good restaurants in city but that takes 1h minimum from zone 4 - one way.
> I have several friends that actively choose to be contractors

I've worked many years as a contractor billing at a daily rate.

The difference being that I can choose to enter permanent employment any time I wanted, due to the field we work in.

It's not the same as contracting for Uber or Lyft. Not even close.

Just some perspective here, not discounting what you said.
Why does this competition require teams of two or more people? Seems arbitrary.
This is effectively the same as enforcing a minimum wage. An argument for it would be, its collective bargaining at a national level, while avoiding the coordination problems associated with unionizing.
With all the turmoil and despair of 2020, this article made me happier than I've felt in weeks, because it reminds me of what I don't have to deal with these days.
> A worker’s will to do something does not necessarily mean that thing is good for the worker

That strikes me as a pretty condescending point of view. Shouldn't adults be allowed to make their own decisions on what is best for their own lives?
For the curious, his birthday is August 11th.
Jet, Angular 9 has such slow build times I can even imagine anyone would use it:

https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/37293

I have 2 comparable applications (in size) and React build times are 10 times faster than Angular.
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I like Cyberpower for home A/V racks, and yes, that PFC Sinewave line.

Generally the rack mount models, such as CyberPower OR1500PFCRT2U PFC Sinewave UPS System, 1500VA/1050W, 8 Outlets, AVR, 2U or CyberPower OR2200PFCRT2U PFC Sinewave UPS System, 2000VA/1540W, 8 Outlets, AVR, 2U.

Very happy, and stopped having to replace sensitive flat screens in bad power zip codes (trees vs. lines every other storm, such as for the last week after Isaias).
I always wondered why we are overly focused on the conditions that created life on earth. Arguably it makes sense to see similar conditions lead to life. But do we really know enough to assume that's only way?
I print the backup codes and put them in a safe.
The old "drop a link" routine isn't beloved here at HN, but this xkcd is just so good:

https://xkcd.com/2210/
https://archive.vn/5PuOn
There goes the water rationing narrative in The Expanse...