skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I don't see it as a consensus when there has been a systematic defunding and destruction of many many education systems, especially in rural america and the inner cities. It's like saying, why did you fall in the hole I dug in front of you?
Not only this, but you can also get forced medication.

And once inside a mental clinic, it can be hard to get out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment
[2019] Cloudflare, Medium, Discord, Gitlab, DigitalOcean, ProductHunt All Down
Not really true. US had a terrible response at the start, made worse by the CDC test not working, putting us weeks behind ever other country. Then Trump decided wearing masks wasn't important and tons of people followed his lead, ensuring our case load stayed consistently high.
hn algolia search broken
> the low barrier of entry and hype has resulted in a huge amount of people downloading Keras, copying a bunch of code, tuning a few parameters, and then putting their result on arXiv so they can put AI research on their resume. This has resulted in so much noise and low quality work that it really hurts the field.

Then the problem isn't the low barrier and ease of use, it's with arXiv's filtering and how resumes are valued and verified.
Was wondering why my DNS wasn’t working...
This is an Atlassian Statuspage status page, so it's not hosted by Cloudflare.
The Pi 4 Compute Module might support NVMe storage
When you depend on a single company for much of the internet, such things happen :(
> responding to national crises is kind of the number one job of the federal government

I responded to your sibling comment about other examples about how D-dominated governments have failed spectacularly in areas which are supposed to be the core jobs of governments - public infrastructure. (ref: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23875739).

> both sides technically did something wrong, so there's no difference between them.

I actually don't see much difference in the incompetence of the two sides. Presidents (or Governors) are simply impotent to get anything done in the US systems. At best (in terms of their powers), they can only stop something from happening.
The public schools are run by the states. Look to your governor.
DNS is also (partially) down with my ISP (xs4all.nl) it seems
Very confusing to me when I read these comments. Here's the article's reference to debts:

> One of the officials said Mr. Saleh had paid Mr. Haspil so well that he had been able to pay off the debts of several family members.

The train of thought that takes that to the comment

> The article mentions the stolen money was used to pay off family debts. He allegedly murdered Mr. Saleh after he was caught and fired.

must make sense in some degree to the comment author

Interesting that human information copying is subject to such large transcription errors over such a short period of time.
I can't change my NS records to point to a different DNS provider because my registrar, Namecheap, also uses Cloudflare. Didn't expect that.
this is great, i already have bad enough internet (rural area with 3 to 6 digits latency and average 4 digits, barely a few kilobytes of speed) and having both google smearing everywhere their recaptchas that are not really friendly toward low speed internet / non chrome users and cloudflare proxying half the internet but lately not really doing a great job at keeping a consistent uptime does not help much

at least i am glad hn exists, it is the only thing that loads everywhere
Some POPs are fine.
Yeah I thought this was going to be quirks with CSS Grid or something.

The "CSS Zen Garden" from 1999 gets posted about every 3 months and makes it to the front page...
Is gitlabs down?
To be even more pedantic: It is inline outside and flow-root inside. From MDN:

> The element generates a block element box that establishes a new block formatting context, defining where the formatting root lies.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/display-ins...
The article doesn't say that the stolen money was directly used to pay off family debts. It instead insinuates that the man was well-paid in the first place.
a DNS issue wouldn't cripple all of the internet at once, with all the caching.
Yep, Cloudflare, DigitalOcean and 1.1.1.1 down for me. I thought it was my internet and was so confused for a bit there.
A corporation can go against the grain. But what incentive would it have to do so? It's not coincidence that corporations tend to aggressively pursue profit, it is the intentional structure of capitalism.
From what little I've been able to gather, anything using Cloudflare's DNSes are down.
Just got a whole bunch of alerts that my services are down. Tried logging into Digital Ocean (who it seems uses Cloudflare) to get it fixed. Could not access their dashboard to reroute things.
Likely connected to the Cloudflare outage: https://twitter.com/JacobCanfield/status/1146057756400504837

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23875842
Thank you for the early Friday.
By the sound of it, BMW is planning micropaymemts and subscriptions as well, with one example given in the original article being heated seats you only subscribe to in winter months.
Works for me too... Australia
> You can't arrest someone on account of them being an idiot.

No but you can sure fire them, in the private sector at least.

The 21 km/h above the speed limit would probably not make the auto industry very happy. What good is a Porsche if one needs to drive slowly?
Which ones are you going to add? Just curious. :)
If that VPS is on DO they're down too cause of CF. Or if you set the resolver on your VPS to 1.1.1.1 that's also down.
> Or you find other people in your community that can help.

But that is school.
Cloudflare status site is also partially down. Some resources are not loading properly.
Show HN: Create a playlist from your favourite artists to help find new music
But he got his summers off! /s

Yea, it sucks all around.
IBM Cloud status is pretty much always green... although we have issues pretty much every week.
> I don't understand the logic around the left's hatred of charters

Charter schools are a threat to the public school system, so the public school system will naturally oppose charter schools.

If you are a public school without charter schools, a parent only has two choices: (1) public school, or (2) pay $20k+/yr/child to do private school. For the vast, vast majority of parents, public school is the only option.

Once you add charter schools to the mix, there is a new option that is viable for a much larger population. When parents choose charter schools, they lose public funding. Hence, this is a threat to public schools, and public school systems will strongly oppose it.

I think the reason you're having trouble understanding this is that you assume the public school union has the interests of children as it's top priority. With that assumption, opposition to charter schools doesn't make sense. But if you assume rational self interest, then you can easily explain the opposition.
I have no idea about N95 masks, but surgical style masks (which are what most people need) seem to be readily available.

I bought 50 for $30 at Newegg in mid May. I just ordered another 200 from there at $15 per 50. There are similar offerings immediately available on Amazon.

Same for face shields.
I doubt vaccines will be provided to low risk groups for some time, even if they are actively distributing the vaccine by December.
No kidding! We had literally deployed a major page redesign and started watching our analytics drop off on it's way to zero. My heart is racing still. I wouldn't normally be happy for a cloudflare outage but in this case it's better than Google deciding to remove us from their index.
Discord attempted to route me to: everydayconsumers.com/displaydirect2?tp1=b49ed5eb-cc44-427d-8d30-b279c92b00bb&kw=attorney&tg1=12570&tg2=216899.marlborotech.com_47.36.66.228&tg3=fbK3As-awso

(Visit at your own risk.)

Hack?
No need to wonder! I just grabbed the example code from the post and stuck the extra `something` in it:

https://repl.it/repls/DeterminedJointTest

(I think that's the right sharing link, although repl.it seems to be down right now.) It doesn't compile:

main.hs:43:1: error:
Parse error: module header, import declaration
or top-level declaration expected.
|
43 | something : T
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe I had the syntax wrong.
> and the people that work there start to worry about what their ROI will be before they start working.

This is it I think. People start basically self-censoring. The problem is that it's notoriously hard to predict ROI ahead of time. Many of the highest ROI projects look like long shots while many "sure thing" projects bomb.

You can see the result of this with Hollywood and its endless remakes, reboots, and comic book flicks. These are "sure things" and most do in fact make money, but the whole sector is sinking. I have zero excitement about movies anymore. All the interesting stuff is in serialized series and indie projects. I don't even pay attention to what movies are being released, and I'm not alone.
See the section: "3. Examples of Limited Domain Requirements"

...the problem statement starts by saying that home networks might optimize for "compatibility and security by default", whereas a giant CDN might optimize internal traffic for performance and violate some of the general "Internet Protocol" recommendations. That giant CDN's internal traffic might use MANY of traditional IP protocol components, but might not be fully compatible with "the open internet" for a variety of reasons.

"""Nevertheless, because of the diversity of limited domains with
specific requirements that is now emerging, specific standards (and
ad hoc standards) will probably emerge for different types of
domains. There will be attempts to capture each market sector, but
the market will demand standardized solutions within each sector. In
addition, operational choices will be made that can in fact only work
within a limited domain. The history of RSVP [RFC2205] illustrates
that a standard defined as if it could work over the open Internet
might not in fact do so. In general, we can no longer assume that a
protocol designed according to classical Internet guidelines will in
fact work reliably across the network as a whole. However, the "open
Internet" must remain as the universal method of interconnection.
Reconciling these two aspects is a major challenge."""

...the underlying point is that the internet is fragmenting (home != open, cdn != open, home != cdn), and they're calling it out as a RFC... stating the problem.

Their recommendation (towards the end) alludes to tagging / nesting of networking groups. (see: "With this perspective, we can list some general functional requirements.")

Whether a node "IN" or "OUT" of a "LIMITED DOMAIN" is a signal that is useful to know (probably either to restrict or allow traffic in and out of a particular domain).

There are definitely some valid points in there, but it's also possible to take a very dystopian/pessimistic view as to what this allows.

The Good? A local wifi in your car with special rules, hardware, or protocols might be super cool! ...especially if it's compatible with other "CarWiFi(TM)" networks. Same goes for "CDN-Net9000gb(TM)".

The Bad? Those same tools could be very effectively used at political, not just technical boundaries. "US-Net", "China-Net", etc. with varying degrees of compatibility or access between them.
"Went missing" is a weird way to put it, because it never existed in the first place.

If I convince everyone I have a Rolls Royce Sweptail in my garage(even though I don't), but then someone opens the garage and says there is no Sweptail in there, I don't think anyone would describe the Sweptail as going missing - merely that its existence in my garage was a lie.
this-is-fine.gif
Linked tweet is from July 2nd 2019
I mean, if you self select yourself out of the gene pool, it doesn't matter what label you put on it, you are pretty much self euthanizing?
Yes, it is.

Anecdotes tell you very little about the bigger picture.
Same here DNS is not resolving for several domains and subdomains.
I noticed Udemy was down when I wanted to go to the next video I was watching.
Most pages mentioned here seem functional again.
For people who reports this is down, which country are you in? Because all the reported sites works flawless from Norway (Europe) :-)
Yup. 1.1.1.1 stopped responding as well.
Same here, DNS domains and subdomains not resolving.
I have mixed feelings about how effective this approach could be, especially in younger populations that don't have the best grasp on what is happening and where the boundaries are in terms of playing together or interacting. I hate to say it but I think it's all or nothing, either no one goes in or everyone goes in. Even if a smaller portion of people get sick, they still have the option of spreading it..especially if they don't work remotely which many people can't.
Status pages are a marketing channel not a channel for developers most of the time. It most likely has to go through some layers before someone updates the status page.
340ms average latency to 1.1.1.1 and 47% packet loss.
Many sites are down.
But I guess that's the problem with CDNs.
Thought I was going crazy for a second.

This affects so many things it's scary, and Cloudflare status page has still not updated. HN got there first.
So THAT is why the Internet was acting weirdly!
I can't access my own VPS nor Digital Ocean (which takes care of DNS). Good to know I'm not the only one with issues, at least.
Yesterday I noticed most of their lava lamps are out (which generate random bits). Perhaps these are a critical component.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6eR8V2PSY3EVjCLA
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions.
Not sure how we missed Svelte (?!)
I'll be sure to add those to the frontend framework category
" On a national level things aren't looking quite as grim"

With the recent Amthor scandal, where many established politicans really did not see a scandal at all(probably because it is normal), I am sceptical to this claim.
A lot of people are saying AWS. I'm having intermittent network connectivity issues intra-AZ, so perhaps they lost a data center or route flapped one.
Looks like a thread is starting here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23875692
Let's start a betting pool. How many upvotes do you think OP will get before the status page acknowledges a problem? I say its going to be 600.
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is down too.
Apart from Brazil (which you mentioned), the US is doing a far better job than India and Bangladesh in terms of supporting the economy and social safety nets like one time stimulus payments, boosting unemployment benefits, aid to businesses etc. [Source: close families / friends living in those two countries].
For a while, but nations with twin deficits (trade and fiscal) historically saw their currency lose value, which was a natural correcting mechanism to close inordinately large imbalances, which US has.. massively.

Of course what sustains this is $ as global reserve and for most of last few decades need for dollars to buy oil

These things are changing. China's size and demand for commodities pushes oil exporters and commodity exporters more and more to accepting yuan.

US loss of industry on the margins means $ has less use as reserve. Why stock pile dollars and treasuries if you anticipate large devaluation (deficits) in the future and are purchasing more goods from China?

What does US do as a result? Sanction and or invade oil exporters trading for other currencies. Iraq, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Russia.

Nordstream 2 is a big one. Germany and Europe perfectly content to buy cheaper oil from Russia going forward. Much less need for $ though, as a result.

Thus, this overvalued $ (based on balance of trade fundamentals) won't perpetuate as it has previously.
I'm having real problems with DNS, is this Cloudflare too? They say "All Systems Operational", so maybe not?

Half the damn internet is not currently resolving.
Yeah this is absolutely killing us right now.
> Hunter-gatherer societies have routinely been found to be happier and involve significantly less work than industrialized societies.

Yes, grasshoppers are typically happier and less hardworking than ants. There's an old fable that comes to mind...
You might not have to replace knockout.js the solid framework author actually has implemented a html rendering lib that has bindings for both knockout.js and mobx. You might find it useful https://github.com/ryansolid/dom-expressions.
Everything works fine for me (Canada), am I missing something or is it over already?
How can you tell the 'degree of flag' other than show their time on FP, though? I'm saying there's no real way to evaluate your claim with the links you've given because they just show you, dunno, that it was a story on HN. And again, 'high interest' is just an assumption of yours. A story can be high interest and lots of people can think it's just a poor HN fit.
Last I read about 7 million hosts are behind Cloudflare. Maybe around 3% of the web, but who knows if that counts for critical assets etc rather than pages served.

Shameful that so much of our decentralised web is so centralised and breakable in one place.
I've been happily using NextDNS for a few months now on my mac and iPhone with no problems so far :)
8.8.8.8 is a caching resolver, it still needs to talk to CF's nameservers for authoritative records.
Typically kids are more resilient then that. The kid that ends up as scared had those tendencies before. If your toddler don't tend to be paranoid, you taking precautions and talking about them as normal thing to do won't harm him at all.
Ironically https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is also down. HA
Just had a sales call w/them the other day and expressed concern about sending domain authority over to them- this doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies.
Will we take this as a much needed lesson about putting all of the internet's eggs into one basket? Probably not.
We're dealing with a deeper level problem here. Since a lot of the internet is relying on Cloudflare DNS at some part or another, even many backup solutions fail.
Since so much of DNS is centralised in so few services, such outages hit the core infrastructure of the internet.
When it all goes down it won't even matter how good your cognition is under normal circumstances, your brain is going into lizard brain mode.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala_hijack
That only worked until all the records expired from Google's cache.
Damn it, you're right
Is there a status page for HN?
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ seems like this page is out of date.
Parts of the site that are behind CF like the API are down.
Ironic, isitdownrightnow.com is down.

All my DigitalOcean instances are down.
Ironically, downdetector.com is also down.
In bear country where many hunt, the pistol is for protection. I know many hunters that use AR pattern rifles to hunt.
It depends where the knowledge came from - did it come from an insider, or was the accounting fraud discovered by poring over public records?
FYI, PagerDuty is not loading!

Time to go back to the drawing board, for a lot of us, to re-assess points of failure.

Edit: many websites are failing to DNS resolve but the services they provide continue to function fine behind the curtain.
It's unfortunate that both the primary and secondary cloudflare DNS is down. I just switched my secondary to google.

This allows my internet to "work" during this time, but adds about 1s latency to resolutions. Presumably that's the time it takes my internal DNS resolver to try the secondary.
Yep, all my sites went down for a bit.
That explains Frozen II. My wife: "I don't understand why those scenes were left out. The movie would have made a lot more sense".
Discord confirmed Cloudflare is also the reason they're down: https://twitter.com/discord/status/1284237737638461453
This post is getting something like 30 upvotes a minute…might want to up that a bit ;)
How does one isolate "high risk group" teachers, though? What's the plan for that? Is it a volunteer thing? Are you going to lay people off? How do you fill the void in the resulting empty positions? What about the family members of those not-high-risk teachers?

I'm not a zealot on this. Areas with low infection rates should definitely be looking at schools as an early candidate for reopening.

But I genuinely can't understand the outrageous partisanship on this subject that says we have to pick a fight with everyone, right now, on this subject. Why schools? Seriously? Why schools? Why now? What focus group told who this was the hill to die on?
As someone with 3/4 of their foot in management and one foot in the hands-on world, I am often surprised at how my viewpoint changes when thinking about the bigger picture. As an example, one of the things I personally own still as an individual is essentially our kafka platform- that means our actual brokers operations, our automation, monitoring, client availability, etc.

We provided a really nice walkthrough to get you going as a quickstart. The whole point was originally to keep it simple so that you have to be thoughtful about the settings and tradeoffs you make in terms of reliability vs performance. I didn't want to be overly prescriptive in what and how teams use functionality like transactions and idempotence.

But we find, time and again, people get this wrong. They don't look at things like delivery reports, they don't set timeouts that make sense, they often don't even think about their replication factor. I pushed against full fledged client examples because there really isn't a one size fits all and I didn't want people to copy and paste without thinking about what they are doing.

The reality is, I am fighting a war on drugs. People want things to Just Work, and don't have the time to sit down for a day or two and read a book on kafka concepts (which we provide for free) and just want to get things done. We will repeatedly be involved in "outages" because clients could not tolerate a broker restarting and they did not configure their apps to be resilient.

On a more topical note, a guy on my team wanted to rewrite a python app we have in kotlin about 2 years ago, because it was the hot thing for about 5 minutes and our little POC python app was getting unwieldy for the scale it was growing into and its complexity. But we had no one in the firm who knew this, no support network for this, and I kind of saw that this was likely to be a flash in the pan kind of thing. I had to say no, and he was all pissy and was like but JVM! and arguments like that. I am really glad we didn't go that route, because kotlin is all but dead, and that guy left after about a year, and we would have been left high and dry.

My larger point is- what seems like such a cut and dried correct answer when its just from your viewpoint, can look very wrong when put in context of an organization, but unfortunately the end perception is often "my boss doesn't get it."
I've used 4.2.2.1 extensively in the past, and never had any issues. 4.2.2.1 through 4.2.2.6 are run by Level 3
It really defies the original vision of the internet to have so many services depend on a single company. Almost every news site I was reading dropped off at once. I thought for a second that I lost internet in my own house.
All my tests passed. The only explanation must be because Github Actions is being affected. My tests would never pass otherwise.
Context: G. Julius Caesar would break norms himself in -49.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Rubicon#Julius_Ca...

Interestingly, the work in which this pleading occurs appears to not have been written until after the results of alea iacta est had settled down, in Caesar's favour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sallust#The_Conspiracy_of_Cati...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar%27s_Civil_War
Twitch.tv channels are like 50/50 right now. Some are ok, some aren't.

Basically all Riot Games (League, Valorant, TFT) are down, dunno about LoR.