skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Eh, what? There are many good reasons to have low TTL DNS...this exact outage being one of them. Update your records to go direct to your servers, and not through Cloudflare and bam you’re back up. Doesn’t work if your TTL is 86400
Old network shutting down,
Skynet booting up.
:)
Yes its really odd that core backbone providers can go down and everything works like its supposed to. Even trans-pacific cables can be cut and things will usually work with only increased latency. But there is not much redundancy for many companies at this layer; having redundant DNS providers is I'm sure possible but not something we think about very often, and of course many of the sites that are down are depending on the proxy and DOS mitigation services.

On my home network I use Google as a backup DNS provider so the whole internet didn't go dark for me, but I don't have a backup DNS host for my company's DNS records.
I think it's going to be everyone. Some of my free sites are dead, but also huge enterprise Cloudflare users (Discord/Patreon/4chan) are also dead.
I got one and dug trenches for a sprinkler system in a pretty small city yard. It was fun for about 30 minutes, which represented a disturbingly small fraction of the total job.

2/10. Would not recommend.
2:36 PM PST - status.discord.com is back up.
Looks like it's back. No longer getting issues with 1.1.1.1 and domains are being resolved!
digitalocean.com DNS (on cloudflare) is now resolving again. looks like several things are coming back now.
I see that you are being downvoted, but I do agree with some of your points.

> people think the D's and R's are dramatically different

This is so true. Let's ignore fringe topics like Green New Deal or White Supremacy and look at what the mainstream portions of the parties are debating about - abortion, transgender rights etc.

But what are the key differences between tax policy or curtailing corporate powers or entanglements in various wars? You will have to squint hard. And please don't cite Warren or Sanders when it comes to corporations and D's - those two lost the primary handily and when D's controlled all the levers of the powers in D.C., they happily bailed out the Wall Street without punishing a single banker for the crash of 2008.
This was the bold new idea of Google, back in the day. At that time, the internet was plastered with banner ads for cars and shoes and other lowest common denominator crap. Personalized ads were a good thing!
Anyone care to share thoughts on Vue 3 vs. React (especially given how GPT-3 seems capable of producing code with React)?
What were your numbers for new cases looking like when the schools reopened, though? Keep in mind, many parts of US never even got past the first hump in the curve.
I'm realizing how bad the experience is when my computer starts falling back to the "secondary" DNS. It adds a little over 1s latency to resolutions (very noticable).

I wish my computer was smart enough to "healthcheck" the primary and secondary, and fallback to using the secondary as the primary until it becomes healthy again.
Awesome paper Ethan!!!
I'd be looking at your browser extensions or malware (if you use the Discord app).
They did use Cloudflare, but also haven’t for some time.
Looks like Digital Ocean is reporting an issue with their upstream provider:

https://status.digitalocean.com/incidents/6wtmldty17g1

As big as this is, any chance a major hub/backbone went down?
This! I got all sorts of alerts from pingdom and my laptop refused to get online. Pure Panic!
It shows "Minor system outage" when I load the page, but it switches to "All systems operational" immediately. Same behaviour on several attempts.
While I do worry to myself if that's making monoliths, I think you're right.
One way or another, this situation tests a country/culture's ability to implement collective behavior/protections where the benefits don't accrue to the person taking the actions.

Social distancing has its obvious social costs, and my feeling (I couldn't definitively call it understanding) with masks is that it's more about protecting people from you, and not the other way around.

I think no matter how you break it down, the USA has proven so far it's poorly suited to do carry that out for each other.
Cool! Yeah I've been lazy as I don't have Haskell setup on my work computer.

So, in short it's just coinductive natural number type. I'd say it's very far from useless, I use Conat in Agda pretty often especially if you use other coinductive types.
The US was never going to win a contest that calls for unity and obedience. I’ve usually found it admirable, though not right now.
This is likely your computer's DNS resolver (if you're using 1.1.1.1 you're down. I'd switch to 8.8.8.8 temporarily. We've had pagerduty alerts coming in since the start (a whole bunch of DNS errors from pingdom) and when I click on the slack link, pagerduty works for me
My iPhone actually popped up a message saying that my wifi didn't appear to have internet, which was strange and obviously false as I was actively using the internet on it and the laptop next to it, but now it makes sense that it must have been pinging something backed by cloudflare!
Appears to be working for me now

; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> discordapp.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8092
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;discordapp.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
discordapp.com. 140 IN A 162.159.135.233
discordapp.com. 140 IN A 162.159.129.233
discordapp.com. 140 IN A 162.159.130.233
discordapp.com. 140 IN A 162.159.134.233
discordapp.com. 140 IN A 162.159.133.233

;; Query time: 69 msec
;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1)
;; WHEN: Fri Jul 17 14:37:40 PDT 2020
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 137
Looks like CF is up!
My Digital Ocean load balancer went down. I think there's probably some internal routing? Would be interested to understand more.
There is absolutely nothing virtuous in watching ads. Nothing. If you want to support someone, buy their product or give them money.
Oh well, too bad.
.. why would you hand all this info to journos? Do they have that much confidence in source protection?
Good DNS practice (at least when I did system admin 10 years ago) was ALWAYS having a secondary at some other location/network. Why do we just put some info in Cloudflare and call it good these days?
Back online just now for me in Midwestern US.
HN is reliable until AWS Route53 goes down :).
It doesn't look like it does. HN's IP space belongs to "M5 Computer Security", and their DNS nameservers are on "awsdns". Nothing there to suggest CF.
We pay teachers poorly enough that plenty of people who otherwise would be teachers were already choosing to not take those jobs.

Now keep the poor pay and crank up the risk of death knob.

Obvious result is obvious, it's actually surprising to me that they're actually able to reopen schools-- that the number of teachers uninterested in continuing in this environment isn't much greater.

How many teachers does it take to quit before you can't reopen? 10%? 20%? Many are economically desperate enough that they'll take the added risk of death, but surely a portion is not.

I can only imagine that there are also a lot of parents who don't want their kids back in schools, perhaps there is a much greater market now for private tutoring.
I imagine most people would never expect something like this to happen, so having a fallback option when Cloudflare has a huge interruption of service like this is just unthinkable.
1.1.1.1 is dropping ICMP pings while 8.8.8.8 is not but 8.8.8.8 is still returning DNS errors.
"StackOverflow devs have the most difficult job in the world. After all, when StackOverflow is down, they can't exactly look for help on StackOverflow".
And it looks like they started "investigating" at around 450!
Pihole is your friend.
I consider DNS and the way how top level domains are handled to be one of the weakest parts of our current Internet design.

We REALLY need a truly decentralized, distributed DNS system that is not owned by private entities.
HN went off Cloudflare a couple years ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18188832

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21799045
Estonia, everything working fine
Marvelous. Thanks for providing the links. I will try it out.
Interesting ... Germany here, too, but I didn't see any down sites
So either this Kirk worked at Twitter and went insane or he’s lying and gained access through a third party. Should be easy for the FBI to track him from Discord.
Dr. Fauci admitted directly in an interview that they had exactly such a plan in mind.
The median educational attainment is "some college". In my state we require teachers to hold a degree and do some postgraduate work, so by definition it isn't a "median" position. That's before we get into it recently becoming a dangerous job
Most channels I regularly I watch on youtube don't have a way to donate to them. The premium fee gets distributed in proportion to the channels I watch.

And I'm sure I'll get roasted for this but YT isn't free to run either. Alphabet Inc. should get some money from you if you are watching youtube, and I'd rather I just pay them than watch an ad from them.
You're welcomed to jump in there with the citation. I had no intention of citing anything because it was my personal opinion. And mainly because, I think the system is complex enough that no single model can definitively prove that it will always tend towards collapse.

I am going to add, what I have in mind isn't a move backwards towards hunter-gatherer, but a move forward, into a post-industrial sociey. And I think post-industrial means becoming decentralized, and in alignment with natural processes, and one where people largely follow ethical principles to live within the ecology.

Food forests are a good example. They can be created with perennials or self-seeding annuals that regenerates itself, even when harvested by the residents.

Family sizes will probably have to increase, or at least, we may be talking about pooling the resources at a neighborhood level. A nuclear family alone doesn't have the time or resources to really pull this off well, but a nuclear family is also the product of the industrial idea of "success" and "wealth".

Careful use of technologies can make this a much different experience than hunter-gatherer, or even horticulture. Among the biggest difference is the presence of the Internet -- specifically, allowing people exchange practical information and barter for things from beyond the local area. (So I am not talking about the current Internet dominated by Big Tech and aggregators, but more of what Tim Berner-Lee had in mind with permissionless architecture, and Richard Stallman's views of Free Software).

The biggest thing we'd have to give up is this notion that wealth comes from extracting resources from the ground and controlling access to them. As long as we continue to use that as a means to rank ourselves against other people, we will continue to perpetuate a mindset that takes resources beyond our fair share, without regard for the earth or for the people. That one mindset is harder to give up than the extra cars, eating out, cheap fossil fuels, indoor plumbing, because we feel that we are entitled to all of it, and we get jealous when we see others have when we don't. Wealth inequality is intrinsic to this model of wealth. It will always be there, no matter how much resources we keep extracting.
See also discussion at: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23875692

Also, many things seem to be back, for me and others: https://twitter.com/OhNoItsFusl/status/1284240273569128449
I can’t stop staring at this map showing where all the anti-face mask people are
You lost. ;) 476 points, status page says it's down now.
It seems like there should be a monthly thread where people are allowed to openly discuss criticism (constructively).
First place I went to also. Then HN.
It's hosted by statuspage.io, and their own status page was also down (metastatuspage.com). It is now back up, but their page shows the outage.
League of Legends down too, not sure if related.
$ dig @1.1.1.1 google.com

; <<>> DiG 9.11.20-RedHat-9.11.20-1.fc32 <<>> @1.1.1.1 google.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 39428
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;google.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
google.com. 249 IN A 216.58.206.174

;; Query time: 9 msec
;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1)
;; WHEN: Sat Jul 18 00:38:35 +03 2020
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 65
If it impacts enough wallets, things might change. I'm not holding my breath though.
given that TTLs are usually very short now if your DNS server is configured correctly then caching shouldn't make a bit of difference.
Seeing a lot of people mentioning DO, but it has been up for me without any issues (small VPS in SF-2)
If you would read the second link I posted carefully you would find out that the investigations started in November, field investigations went from the 6th of January to the 13th.

If there was an activity of large groups of drones flying in grid patterns - let alone ones with a 6 feet wing span - these would have been easy to confirm.

Add to this that there is no video or photographic evidence of any of these activities. Of 90 reports in a couple of months none of the witnesses had a phone on them to shoot anything that's not a single light in the sky?

I think that this is a text book example of social media fueled collective hysteria at its best. Specifically your points 1, 2 and 3 are signs of the phenomenon - about your 4th point: even more reason to expect any form of firm evidence.
My apologies for being unclear.

No, the land may become more valuable as the grain belts and people migrate poleward. Land to the south will become less valuable and hotter. The southern neighbors are gaining greatly in population, while Russia is loosing population.

The current Russian actions (Vlad's) do not seem to indicate welcoming immigrants or other diverse people (Chechnya, hyper complicated, yes, but still). Russia does have a long history of multi-ethnic tension and release though. I'd hope that they (Vlad) welcome the climate refugees, but such integration is likely to be very difficult, as is usual.

A 'Roman' approach may be good to alleviate the strife, where in the pre-Gothic invasions, the Roman M.O. was to take the younger immigrant men into the legions, separate the clans/tribes across the empire to tie allegiance to their neighbors and Rome, and then in about three generations the grandchildren would run the empire. Unfortunately for Russia, that takes ~60-80 years, so about 2080-2100, well past the issues of 2050.
Why not you? Just don't use CF. The more people stay away from CF, the better.
DNS resolution at 1.1.1.1 seems to have gone down and come back up for me in the course of 10-15 minutes.
I got the impression everyone on the research team was more interested in publishing papers and going down obscure research than more immediately useful results. That kind of research has its value but I think you need more direction and a mix of more people that are more interested in making working stuff.
Seems like it's starting to come back.
>I think you misinterpreted what he was suggesting - it is meaningless to say that Hillary won the popular vote because neither party were trying to win the popular vote - you win the presidency by winning the electoral college.

This is a non-sequitur. Whether or not that metric (popular vote) has a bearing on the results of presidential election is irrelevant to the statement of whether he won in that metric.

Furthermore, it's counter-productive to the discussion to preface a comment with a politically charged comment (trump and some of his supporters legitimately believes he got more popular vote than clinton, despite evidence to the contrary), then backpedal on that statement by adding a bunch of qualifiers.
We were down (downforeveryoneorjustme.com) completely, but back up now (as of a few minutes ago). Our domain wasn't even resolving; we use Cloudflare for frontend and DNS.

We had a surge of people checking if Discord was down on our site, then I noticed everything went down shortly after. Discord is still the top check right now.

I can't ever remember hitting these kind of traffic numbers before.
Is this US specific? Everything seems to work fine here in Europe.
Doesn't help as cloudflare wants you to host their name servers with them, so you can't flip any records if the DNS itself is in trouble, like it is now

And changing DNS servers often takes many hours (or days, if .net is involved apparently)
It's back now (at least for me).
Seems like it’s back right?
Wave of investigations may reveal how corrupt SF government has become
HN allegedly still runs on one machine running a single-threaded Lisp webserver.
UFO VPN claims zero-logs policy, leaks 20M user logs
The status page is now showing degraded performance for the Cloudflare API and Recursive DNS.
> it makes absolutely no sense to use the same target for a lagging measure of a growing epidemic as for a shrinking one

Indeed that measure is unattainable in a growing epidemic, but shrinking it should have been the first target. That some states are moving away from a 5% positivity target is just the symptom that those (mostly Republican) states have failed at achieving the purpose of the lockdown and are still months away from being able to implement contact tracing.
Be the change you want to see in the world :) There are no somebodys somewheres.

One question is how to do DDoS protection without somebody like Cloudflare. Some new protocol for edge caching, perhaps?
I'm sure you were joking but they actually are: https://blog.cloudflare.com/lavarand-in-production-the-nitty...
Hopefully with this outage Cloudflare will finally provide non-Enterprise plans a CNAME record, allowing us to quickly bypass Cloudflare.
Looks like it's resolved -- we're coming back up at Repl.it.
Could be. Things are back now, but I was very surprised that a Cloudflare outage makes it impossible for me to get to my Kubernetes API server.

Hidden dependency revealed.
> in that there are likely laws protecting used of the water of that fountain

We're talking about unethical, not illegal.
> Hunter-gatherer societies have routinely been found to be happier and involve significantly less work than industrialized societies.

So is it a coincidence that 99.9% of hunter-gatherer societies have chosen to industrialize?

> Or do you think that given that degree of climate shift occurs it is unlikely to entail a societal and/or biosphere collapse?

My guess is that society wouldn't collapse, but again, this is so speculative.
Features, convience, pricing.
Good guy cloudflare giving programmers an early weekend.
Yep, we were down completely. We are quite dependent on Cloudflare (frontend + dns).
Microsoft have tried to market ARM devices, like the Surface Pro X. The performance sucks though from what I've heard. It's about as expensive as the iPad Pro, but far slower. It only supports 32-bit x86 emulation, and IIRC Rosetta on Apples A12Z based DTK (which has the same SoC as the iPad Pro) beats MS's emulation and supports 64-bit x86 macOS apps.
> His group took advantage of working on a single machine by simply cramming all the data to shared memory where all processes can access it instantaneously.

If you can get all your data into RAM on a single computer, you can have a huge speedup, even over a cluster that has in aggregate more resources.

Frank McSherry has some more about this, though not directly about ML training.

http://www.frankmcsherry.org/graph/scalability/cost/2015/01/...
I wonder if they'll cover why their status page is a steaming pile of garbage in the post-mortem?
Statistical classification of sets of T-cell sequences detects viral signatures
I don't think so. It's likely either a hacked Discord account or connected entirely through a botnet and or Tor.

If I'm guessing, he lied and got access somehow and wanted to destroy Twitter.
It was interesting that we saw our domains affected from the USA but from Mexico everything looked OK.

The crazier thing is that I tried to login to our CloudFlare account, it never sent me the 2FA code... I still haven't been able to login (Enterprise account)
So this basically boils down to keeping your training data in memory? Is there something else I missed?
Both the primary and the secondary going down is a killer. It's enough to make me switch out the secondary to a non-cloudflare DNS.

Even when the secondary works the performance is pretty miserable. Adds about a 1s latency to each DNS resolution while it wait's for the primary to fail.
They were less likely to refuse the work. For one, kids are herd animals and when other kids are doing work, it motivates the slacker. For the other, teachers actually make them - most kids just kinda don't want to do it and will if pushed by teacher or motivated by system of rewards.

Second, doing work at home alone all the time is much demotivating for even good kids. And parents are less fun to explain things then teacher, because most parents sux at it all. Some end in power struggle others just don't know what to do.
If that operating system does a better job of escaping ads, why not?
I would 100% be in favour of an alternative to the DOM designed specifically for building rich application UIs. With upcoming features like portals it could even be embedded within existing HTML documents, or vice versa.

I’ve griped about this before, but I firmly believe that the trope of JavaScript developers needing a million dependencies and constantly reinventing the wheel stems from the fact that you have to do every damn thing yourself (else install a package or 50). The platform provides almost nothing (except, of course, the most remarkable distribution platform we’ve ever seen). The amount of hoops we all jump through to make building web app UIs tolerable is insane.

Want a filterable select that doesn’t make you type the first exact n characters really fast to find what you’re looking for? Gotta build it yourself. Hope you remembered to make it accessible and responsive!

There isn’t even an in-built option for pop-out menus, a feature of GUIs as old as GUIs themselves.

At the end of day the web is now as much an application platform as it is a hypermedia platform. We need better tools.
Australia, everything worked for me, speaking with my friends in the UK they are saying everything is down
And if you want to support the creator and not get ads, there's Youtube Premium. I often hear "I'd rather pay a small amount and not get ads", but when provided with that, they then resort to some other excuse to still use ad-block.
Redundant DNS is possible, but challenging when you're making use of features like geo DNS that don't lend themselves to easy replication via zone transfer.
The exchange was on the communication method of their choosing, right? As long as they accessed Discord via secure methods, there is no need for trust in anything but your own aptitude.
Tweetbot actually doesn't do this very well. Look at a tweet that's a week old or so, you won't see replies. Open it in Safari and the replies appear. (The limit may be a little longer, perhaps a month, but either way you won't see replies past a certain freshness.)
There are status page providers that actually monitor services and automatically update. Cloudfare just doesn't use them.
Doing this with Adobe's Flex, was very easy. And at least for some time, fully integrated in their Flex Builder.

But flash died, so did flex. (that means, the apache foundation still tries to reanimate flex with a js/html exporter, but I doubt it ever gets stable)
> especially given how GPT-3 is capable of producing code with React

The GPT-3 code generation demo (https://twitter.com/sharifshameem/status/1284095222939451393) cannot be applied in practice (for now), but there's nothing stopping anyone from making those GPT-3 demos generate Vue code instead of React.