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hey, I'll say that I'm not sure if it's viable long-term or a "good" approach, but I wanted to try it. From years of reddit use, I see voting as a way to amplify echo chambers, and with sqwok I'm hoping to at least try to diminish that. Being based on realtime chat vs threaded comments may be a slightly different experience as well.
> To put it plainly, if you don't have enough data to train a machine learning model, what, exactly, are your options? There is only one option: to do the work by hand. Wikipedia, with its army of volunteers, has a much better shot at getting results this way than any previous effort.

The training data for machine translation models is also human-created. Given some fixed amount of human hours, would you rather them be spent annotating text that can train a translation system that can be used for many things, or a system that can just be used for this project? It all depends on the yield that you get per man-hour.
I can't remember I have ever visited LRB site and I got pay-walled: "You have reached your free article limit".
Well, it makes sense to ask the question whether that’s bigotry, and I completely understand why a mob may form when the mainstream can’t even hear the discussion, which is what the article and your comment display. To be first worried about cancel culture over the issue at hand is to be deaf to the issues.
The First Amendment doesn't apply to private companies, that's about my objection to your point.
We've come back from this kind of environment before, and I don't see any reason to doubt we can do it again. Remember the Red Scare, or the Comics Code Authority?
> It’s hard to start a new platform to rival Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and Google/YouTube. All four of these platforms are against open discussion

Maybe it would be better to focus on protocols rather than platforms. If you use a platform, you will always be at the mercy of the people who own or control it.
I hate to remind everyone but PC culture is here to stay. We can all complain about but the fact is no one has a solution, except for staying off social media (which I generally have been doing, and I've never been happier).

Need proof? Go watch the movie PCU, made in 1994.
I didn't read that as confrontational, just a frank statement on a topic that lends itself to being discussed in vague terms.
I can write whatever I want but there's a good chance I'll get fired for voicing unpopular opinions.
I experienced this 20 years ago when working on a collaborative project with engineers at Intel. They searched me on leaving the building every day. And this was just an office building, not a final assembly plant where it might be reasonable to want to look for theft of production units. It was like exiting Fry's. I made a mental note then never to work for Intel.
Don’t use the company device for personal use. It’s just not appropriate, for so many reasons.
This issue has come up a lot but I think a lot of people don't quite know the history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicati...

In particular, this either-or positioning was potentially the law prior to 1996 (following court decisions at that time). But legislators were concerned about what I've just heard Berin Szoka call "the Moderator's Dilemma", so they wanted to remove that obligation in order to avoid creating an incentive to never moderate anything.

At the time, it seems that they felt that we could have a wide range of platforms and forums with a wide range of moderation and editorial positions. Or even a wide range of forums within a platform with different moderation and editorial positions, like Reddit and the subreddits. It doesn't seem like that's held up super-duper well in various ways, but it doesn't seem like an unreasonable expectation or aspiration to me.

I would particularly like to push back on the idea that it's somehow obvious that everyone should once again experience this Moderator's Dilemma and have to choose between absolute neutrality and content liability, or that recreating this dilemma in its pre-1996 form is a good way to deal with editorial bias or with the impact of activist pressures on popular platforms.
Those kind of issues are typically only universally seen as bad after technology changes so they're no longer necessary. Children now end up as more useful workers if they go to school first, so child labor is bad today but compulsory child schooling is good. Maybe future generations won't need school and they'll see our schools as completely unacceptable. Or they won't need to get meat from animals so they'll see our farming as completely unacceptable, or they won't need military defense and will see our armies are unacceptable. When technology reduced the need for housework and childcare, women somehow also got the right to work in traditionally male jobs. Not a coincidence.
Yeah it's fascist. I'll say it. It fucking disgusts me. I used to fight it but it's impossible. There's no critical thinking happening. People don't stand for civil liberties and freedom anymore. I know it sounds jaded and depressing, but I honestly don't know what to do. The more you fight it the more ostracized you become. When people speak up against the absurdity that is PC culture, they need to be supported. But how can they when everyone's company has a chief diversity officer now? The argument has been that private institutions can do what they want because they are ruled only by the laws of efficient markets. Hospitals don't have to employ smokers as nurses, and so Google doesn't have to employ white male bigots, right? Wrong. I don't understand how private institutions are allowed to skirt the constitution just because it's convenient. That's _not_ justice. A corporation can't murder someone just because it's a private institution. So why are institutions allowed to silence freedom of expression? Why have we institutionalized oppressive mono-culture? What justice is being served? Certainly we've let the pendulum swing far enough. If we're all riding the same train, then what does social justice look like and how do we know when it has been achieved? When have we demonetized enough videos to make everyone happy? When have we de-platformed enough injustice to satisfy the warriors?
Sure they have. There was a story making the rounds just today about a girl losing a Deloitte offer for a pro-BLM post, and FIRE can tell you that even on campus left-wing cancellations aren't unheard of.
Not sure if this fits the bill but here's a story[0].

[0]: https://nypost.com/2020/07/02/harvard-grad-claira-janover-fi...
> This assumes that racists are putting confederate flags on their cars in good faith.

I wouldn't call them "racists" if I believed that.

> Also, what kind of discourse is so precious that it should be respected on the ... Forza decal platform?

It's not only games that are doing this.
In their words,

> It is from these Minutemen where the 3% name originated. It is a rough estimate that only 3% of the colonists were actively fighting in the field against British forces at any given time.
It's wider fame that threatens Scott's current life track. This is true for all people whether that fame is positive or negative, whether the person in question is Scott Alexander, Rebecca Black, or Monica Lewinsky.

By those lights, the only thing he's a victim of is his own success. I suspect we'd be getting the same reaction from SA regardless of any so-called "doxing," the trail of breadcrumbs leafing back to his identity would still have been present. And at least the article was planned to be positive

As far a the goofle-fu needed to find that specific information, well, I think you're overestimating the difficulty of that particular feat.
If you do so, please design it such that it feeds a constant steam of innocuous data to the boss so they can't tell the bossware isn't working.

Any employer who chooses to engage in technological warfare against their own employees deserves warfare in return.
There are also free & open source options like Typesense: https://github.com/typesense/typesense
what would you like to see? it's because I've been posting content myself as I work on it, and I like reading about space/spacex etc. I'll post some new stuff
She did post a bad thing, and someone made a reference to BLM as a big societal thing someone might post about instead. You could get the same point across with "instead of posting about building her new gaming rig". There isn't even a quotation on the BLM remark.
Well we also state that the indigenous populations introduced, say, potatoes to Europe. No need to push an innocuous observation onto a racial framework.
I started meditating in college (30+ years ago) and always thought I was doing it right. Then a few years ago I began using Sam Harris' Waking Up app and realized I was doing it wrong.

I'd read about people traveling to Tibet to learn meditation and how, interspersed with their actual meditation, were periods of instruction. This never made sense to me. Now I understand the value of that instruction. Sure, some people can pick up an instrument without ever taking lessons; most people can't. It's the same with meditation.

Highly recommended for both novice and experienced meditators alike.

https://www.wakingup.com/
The NY Times and Business Roundtable addressed this issue last year. A society that values profits over people is a failed society.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/business/business-roundta...

Nearly 200 chief executives, including the leaders of Apple, Pepsi and Walmart, tried on Monday to redefine the role of business in society — and how companies are perceived by an increasingly skeptical public.

Breaking with decades of long-held corporate orthodoxy, the Business Roundtable issued a statement on “the purpose of a corporation,” arguing that companies should no longer advance only the interests of shareholders. Instead, the group said, they must also invest in their employees, protect the environment and deal fairly and ethically with their suppliers.

“While each of our individual companies serves its own corporate purpose, we share a fundamental commitment to all of our stakeholders,” the group, a lobbying organization that represents many of America’s largest companies, said in a statement. “We commit to deliver value to all of them, for the future success of our companies, our communities and our country
I think it is about scale. If you stand up a public forum and you have 100 users, do your moderation choices actually sway a large percentage of public opinion? Consider instead a social media platform with a billion users and its moderation choices. It is time for us to use some common sense and not just dissolve everything down to that simplistic binary terms. Having a forum doesn't make you a publisher. Moderation isn't always bad. There are many other nuances like reach, scale, trust, etc. For instance, there is a huge difference between me posting disinformation of my private blog, and me publishing disinformation is a newspaper read by hundreds of thousands daily. My responsibility and influence over the public increases with the reach I have. We need to think the same way about social media.
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Yes. If you create an open space, you are not allowed to moderate free speech.

You are allowed to moderare harmful illegal content, you are allowed to moderate spam, and other service breaking content. But kicking someone off because you dont like what they say is censorship.

Are you saying it is not censorship somehow?

Note, im perfectly fine with you moderating a private forum, e.g. behind a login wall.

But if you use the term "public" for visibility there is probably something wrong with censoring speech.

And yes, if you want to curate you are a publisher and are liable for the content.

If the laws around what liable means are a problem for the tech world maybe they need cleaning up a bit but i think some form of liability should be placed there anyway.

You dont get to shape modern discourse and then get to get off scotfree when everything goes pearshaped.
Their unique risk is "our remote access product broke (globally, or widespread) but we can't fix it because we don't have access anymore... because we use it too and it's broken".

You can cut off your own arms pretty easily even if you're not the vendor, but it would look particularly bad for them.

Yeah in theory disciplined updates and testing should resolve the risk, but sensible to have a fallback.
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> Id say the stance on platforms is stifiling free speech.

This was a point I tried to make when censoring extreme views / hate speech first started being a thing. While I’m vehemently opposed to said content, it’s a slippery slope once you start censoring. Everyone has their own opinions on what’s “bad content”, and while there is a lot of overlap in society, it doesn’t stay constant over time. I wish instead we’d form together as an industry and appropriately tag so you can then filter the web to your preferences. Sadly doubtful that approach would work in reality though.
The Project for the New American Century[0] think tank is probably the most significant influence here. Naming Cheney alone oversimplifies matters, but he was without a doubt a prominent figure.

> It was established as a non-profit educational organization in 1997, and founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan.

> Of the twenty-five people who signed PNAC's founding statement of principles, ten went on to serve in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush, including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_C...
Fortunately they did! Cities were really insalubrious places for most of human history.
Why I said "fancier-crafted". Apple does tons of crap, especially in software. But it is still better than the even more abysmal competition.
The author has a point. When going to upvote the article, I caught myself subconsciously running the risk analysis of HN DB getting hacked and the upvote data getting publicly exposed.
I've been working on an open source alternative. It's dead simple to setup and run (including raft based clustering). It also integrates seamlessly with Instantsearch.js library.
Would love to hear your feedback on Typesense: https://github.com/typesense/typesense
It seems that it is the LLVM in Linguistics.

> Such a translation to natural languages is achieved through the encoding of a lot of linguistic knowledge and of algorithms and functions to support the creation of the human-readable renderings of the content
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. If you lead with "Yeah it's fascist" and "it fucking disgusts me", you're leaving the path of curious conversation, and these threads unfortunately tend not to be self-correcting that way.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I work for one of the big SaaS providers. Their internal response to this stuff requires me to fill in forms and sign a bunch of shit, as well as exchange emails and enter MFA codes - it ends up taking about 30 mins to 1 hour of back-and-forth (over a period of about a week because timezones - they obviously leave this process management stuff to where labour is cheap).

I did it once, I've found probably 10 other issues with customers, partners and our own products that I won't be reporting since I have to go through that process every time with my employer.

There is no benefit to me for reporting it aside from an automated thank you message when they close a ticket.

I'd submit/advise anonymously but I usually discover this stuff in a way they can trace it back to me.

So instead, my data as well as my customers, colleagues and good peoples data remains accessible to the internet.

I'm sorry for that.
I knew that but I also was misremembering the article. The idea came from twitter comments, the article was just reporting it, not advocating it.
I was wrong.
I've had a dozen or so minor wounds from minor dog bites that healed up fine. It's not that you're wrong, just using ... lets say hyperbole.
Much like you can stand in a public park and say whatever you want, you can host your own website and post whatever you want.

You can't however, walk into say a Burger King and not expect to get thrown out if you start making extreme statements.

The problem you've identified is social media platforms having power over public discourse. However I disagree that forcing website owners to host whatever their users want to say is a way to solve that. The real solution in my mind is for people to turn away from social media.

In other words, social media itself is the problem. Not the fact that social media inhibits free speech.
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Well that was a really biased article.

The more toxic parts of cancel culture are a problem yes, but to blame the left for Netflix deciding to remove episodes they shouldn't have removed is just silly, especially when the vast majority of people on the left don't agree with Netflix in those cases.

I'd argue that the part complaining about "the liberal media" is even more applicable to right-wing media. What she's complaining about has been done by Fox News and Murdoch owned tabloids for ages now.

And I have a very hard time taking anyone who recommends PragerU seriously. PragerU is an awful and dishonest propaganda outlet and should be treated as such. The fact that someone who claims to be pro choice, pro LGBTQ, and pro environmental issues would even claim that PragerU is "rational" makes me seriously doubt that person's judgment.

Honestly, the idea of abandoning your social political viewpoints just because you think that some people on the left are mean is a really dumb way to go about deciding your political opinions and who to vote for. It's reactionary and inevitably leads to putting more shitty people in positions of power.

You should stand for your beliefs even if that means having to agree with some dumb-asses.

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For a view on cancelling from someone on the left, and talk about experiences with it, I can recommend Contrapoints' video on the subject [1]. It's long but worth a watch if you want to hear someone talk about it who doesn't just suggest that people abandon the left and vote against their interests.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8
As I understand, it is closed-source code causing the problem described. Erran Berger linked to that Hakawai commit as an example of a different, open-source project under the LinkedIn umbrella that has the same problem.
Based on this I mentioned Quora as an example on https://about.gitlab.com/company/culture/all-remote/stages/#...
I can't say enough good stuff about Bandcamp. All of the underground IDM is on there, the app is great (it caches stuff locally) and they let you download the music you buy in high quality. Setting up and customizing a store is also very easy. I even got a sale on there once, which is more than I can say for any other music selling/streaming platform.
I'm curious about the exact mechanism for this. Is it typically a single short-duration event that has lasting effects that destroys the community (e.g. a news article that drives traffic 100x what's normal to the site)? A permanent change in the environment (eternal September)? Or just the steady, accelerating accretion of new members, which at some point overwhelms the ability of the community to incorporate them to existing norms?

Or is it more that once a community gets to a certain size, it's subject to a kind of broadcast storm?

I wonder if a technical solution could mitigate against those risks. You could limit the number of public access tokens that can be issued at any one time, and have strategies in place to allow more long-lived tokens and registration for regular visitors.
"It could be he has been busy doing real work in the last ten years and not researching solved problems that are generally encapsulated in well tested existing modules."

Sorry, I should have been more clear. We didn't ask the problem with the expectation of a perfect solution, it was more to gauge his problem solving skills. However as we were running out of time we asked him to implement a naive solution, which was met with a very negative response. Maybe I'm not explaining it properly but it gave the impression of a serious ego problem. Actually part of the criteria for our interview is to see how well a candidate can take feedback and make changes accordingly. They did poorly on that front.

Agree that architecture leadership is critical, especially when dealing with business teams that acquiesce to every single client demand with impunity.
Interesting, I never heard of that before (I’m not in Germany)
My original comment was in error. I had meant to write, "While the Nazi flag may believed to be a racist symbol, the Swastika, however, is not a racist symbol." The swastika symbol may exist in Chinese, but the word swastika is from another large country of people.

Symbols are not racist, which is what should obviously be taken away from this.
You want to see courts determine firings?
I'm learning the mindfulness skills from the DBT skills workbook. For the first time I really get what 'mindfulness' is. It's actually quite accessible and not just some vague term. Really enjoying learning mindfulness skills and starting to use them in everyday situations.

I find that it gives another option other than the default reaction to situations, so you can be more intentional.
Replacing the word "fucking" with "really" has nothing to do with it. There's no guideline against profanity on HN.

Please read the guidelines and take the spirit of the site more to heart.
I read this story by J. B. S. Haldane when I was a kid and have never forgotten it.

http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/rats.pdf
> I don't think "clever"ness is what makes code unmaintainable. You can still create a tangled mess in Go...

It's not the only factor, but it is certainly _a_ factor: "Clever code" is typically meant as derogatory. Fancy abstractions for simple use cases is a common cause of tech debt IME, and harder to unwind than under-abstracted code (tedious as that is to fix).
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> if you compare it by population though, it's still high, but it's not horrible.

> But fewer people die per capita than in the UK, France, Spain, Sweden, Italy, and some other minor countries.

You listed the countries with more deaths per capita. Excluding countries with < 10,000 cases, there are 6. The 5 you mentioned, plus Belgium.

That means every other country in the world has fewer deaths per capita. The US is the 7th worst out of 66 countries. You can say that you're satisfied with that standing, but you can't say we're doing well.

Disappointment with that metric may greatly overlap with partisan disappointment in the current administration. But Occam's razor suggests the former does not require the latter.
More accurately that worship / faith will be rewarded with salvation. For Christians afterlife is broadly considered a certainty, it's just a question of whether you'll get the good or bad one.
Why would they have to change sims? IIRC Signal only requires a number for UX purposes, numbers are never stored on their servers.