skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I just wanted to mention few things because they need be said. I hope it helps.

Caste system and Varna system in India are 2 different things. Many people including Indians fail to understand this. Caste system and what was written in Manusmruti (some guidelines book for Hindus) was debated even in ancient times but some high-caste-people did take advantage of it and it went screwed up in-between years.

Caste system was based on the work you do. As many are talking about "surnames" pointing to your caste - please understand how they got these surnames in the first place! It's not the other way round. Also, traditionally descendants did the same business as it was easily taught to kids and was believed that those skills are genetically transferred as well. Note that I'm stating what was believed - not necessarily facts.

Please try to relate the concept of "untouchables" in today's pandemic times. Do you intent to go and touch those who work in the hospitals? How would you expect the people in those times to be okay with touching those who used to clean up toilets by hand, carry the waste on their backs? Note that I'm not justifying what followed in thousands of years later

Hoping you get the context. Please don't evaluate the origins on today's level of sophistication

I do believe that the caste system exists through out the world even today. Just that castes are different. How about now we have "Software Engineers" as a caste? There too you are higher if you belong to FAANG, no? How many software engineers like to marry software engineers? Isn't it convenient to marry someone who has similar work life, thought process, education background and such? Wasn't it same in the old days? I know people who - if they work at FAANG, then looking for partner working in FAANG because their status matches!

One more example in the context of "untouchable" and Brahmins to help you understand the point of not touching others - If lady in a Brahmin house is preparing food in the morning (she will always take bath first), NOBODY (her parents, kids, husband, whatever) in the house is allowed to go to the kitchen, touch her or even drink water from there until they take bath. Please try to think about this.

I don't know if 'ironic' is the right word but here in comments I read someone mentioning "HR wouldn't support lower level employees" in the comment in the context of "dalit". Guess what "dalit" are? "lower level employees in the society" (those who cleaned up waste).

Importantly, dalit's were not working in lower level because they were untouchables, but they were untouchables because they worked in the lower levels. Indian society let Mr. B R Ambedkar (who was born Dalit) to write constitution of India - that speaks volumes.
We simply need better sandboxing, and on by default.
In a way it’s also usable for normal people.

Mac has the sandbox runner, with a configuration file. However it’s deprecated, and difficult to create.

Also, not even Facebook signs all their apps.

It’s funny, bc everybody is kicking and yelling against the AppStore, and the process. But it’s the only thing protecting everybody from misuse
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Wait until you find out about Doom, which I consider to be all the good of Spacemacs without the crust.
If you've got decent programming experience, that's all it takes.

I started learning Lua and began working on a game within an hour without needing to reference language documentation much at all. It's a language without many secrets.
I had a tendency for allergies for most of my life, until we got our daughter who increased our overall level of dirtiness acceptance and brought in new viruses every other week when she was little.

Suddenly my allergies dropped. I made a test and I had no positive marker.

This went on for a couple of years.

This has changed since the lockdown. I am sneezing again all the time and wake up with sore throats, in the way it was typical. Even stronger than before.

The immune system needs work to do.
Thank you for the insight. I didn't consider deeper into various generations of cpu etc
There's a wide field of messaging from distributed logs to queuing systems to event sourcing to complex service buses. Kafka, Pulsar, NATS, RabbitMQ, Tibco, NServiceBus, ActiveMQ, Solace, AMPS, and dozens more. What's "proper" depends on your needs.

Redis Streams actually does exactly what you describe and is basically a single-node fast Kafka replacement with multiple independent consumer groups, per-message acknowledgements, and queue semantics. We use it successfully in many high-load scenarios.
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. It's possible to write unreadable code in any language, and Lisp is readable once you've spent a basic amount of time with the language to get to know the forms and when your code is indented properly - see my blogpost at https://nl.movim.eu/?blog/phoe%40movim.eu/cd3577f6-fb1d-45f5... for that last one.

Also, LISP is a language that's been dead since 1970s. Did you perhaps mean Lisp?
yeah, right... why are they really stopping ads? they're not seeing any return, right? probably got a lot of extra revenue from sales during the pandemic and don't need marketing at the moment. also cutting costs in the pandemic makes sense.
The way US counts the deaths from this is "unique"
in that if someone had COVID when they died, but
they did not die _from_ COVID, they're still counted
as a COVID death

That's how diseases work.

In a literal sense the only actual cause of death ever is a cessation of cardiovascular function.

You don't die "from" AIDS. You die from pnuemonia, malnutrition, opportunistic infections that attack your weakened immune system, etc.

You don't even die directly "from" cancer. The tumors on your pancreas don't directly kill you in the sense that stepping on a landmine directly kills you.

That's why countries like Russia with much less formidable
healthcare systems have "lower" fatality ratios. They're
counting those who died _because of_ COVID, not _with_ it.

That's not realistic at all.

Your odds of dying from disease during any given month are pretty low. If you get COVID-19 and die, the overwhelming probability is that.... yes, it was COVID-19.

While not a perfect method of accounting it is assuredly more accurate than assuming the opposite, which is what countries like Russia are apparently doing.

If a person has cancer (or hepatitis, or psoriasis, or dementia, or whatever) for two years, and then they contract COVID-19 and die the next week, it certainly may have been the cancer that did them in, but it was almost certainly the COVID-19 that put them over the edge. In reality, a number of factors did them in, but if you had to pick one it would be their acute bout with COVID-19 that proved the deciding factor.
Noted in the comment you are replying to:

> I expect he'll post his thoughts on this new technology from FB soon.
In practice, multiple advertisers have been in trouble for breaking this class of rule in the past 2 years. That's not some long-forgotten problem, it's current.

If neural nets provide a way maintain plausible deniability while breaking the rules, it's going to get used.
Redis Streams is built-in and does all that for you. https://redis.io/topics/streams-intro
And sadly, both Word 98 and Word 2019 (any platform) are still far behind Word 5.1 (Mac; 1992).
Maybe around the world is also where they found more success? My parents have been visiting their shows in Germany for the last few years, and they've been sold out (or close to it) every time. I'm sure that the permanent location in Berlin they had planned would've also been a success for at least a few years.
But what is your definition of perfect (or better). That it perfectly aligns with societies moral view, or that it makes the company the most money.
(Funnily enough ctrl-[ is one of my most used shortcuts in vim. It’s a convenient alternative to escape if you map caps-lock to ctrl)
Why can't they just pause and resume (and the employees get unemployment benefits)?
> Whatever process it might be that's taking someone's IQ as an input is right now being handled in some subjective manner by other humans.

Yes.

> Do you think their error rate is zero?

Well it depends. Do I think the error rate of IQ as a predictor of underlying intelligence is flawed? Yes.

Do I think that IQ as a measure of IQ is flawed? Still, often, yes.

> These things don't need to be perfect to be good.

To my point above, I generally am not a fan of IQ in general. Psychology researchers are consistently finding new and interesting ways that IQ tests are socially/culturally/environmentally influenced and that exams may not be fair.

If your claim is that you can somehow train an algorithm to look at someone's face and evaluate their underlying intelligence better than the tools we have today, honestly "delusional" is the first word that comes to mind. That's just not something that currently available tools can do. And thought experiments about a "perfect" classifier aren't interesting when we're discussing applied ethics.

And that comes with the huge, enormous, gigantic, asterisk that you can even measure "intelligence". Like, it comes with the caveat that you can even reasonably define intelligence. We generally measure intelligence as correlated with success at some metric: math problems, visual puzzles, chess, reading comprehension, whatever. If you're contending that a hypothetical model could predict underlying intelligence better than the measures we have today, how would we even know? When training a model you have an evaluation function.

If the evaluation function is flawed (which is essentially your contention, and which I absolutely agree with), the trained model will exhibit biases that reflect the flaws of the evaluation function. An ML model isn't suddenly going to solve the cultural issues we have with measuring IQ. It will encode the same biases that society does, because the model will try as hard as it can to do exactly what the human proctors would have done.

These are exactly the kinds of broader ethical questions that Timnit points out we need to worry about.
> :earlier 10m — time traveling, which comes in handy between commits or with config files, especially if you configure vim to write persistent change history. What did this file look like a month ago? Oh yeah, :earlier 30d

Another trick to my bag, that's why I absolutely love these threads about Vim.
> This and when I ssh into any machine, I know there will be a vi at the very least

You could use emacs for that. Editing over ssh using TRAMP works perfectly in every case I've used it.
Too little too late. They should be barred from US markets however there may be worse actors out there that borderline criminals could call ‘industry standard’.
The court example was good. Trying to make a list of possible domains where social bias is a factor:

- court risk assessments

- loan risk assessment

- job application pre-screening

- law enforcement face recognition

- medical scan interpretation

...

So, in essence: justice, banking, jobs, policing and health care. Anything else? Seems like social bias can only affect a small proportion of the ML application domains.
So what did they use? Other than kanban I haven’t heard of anything other than scrum. And that is essentially scrum where you draw issues from the entire stack instead of biweekly choosing a subset of the stack to use.
Well if you're literally researching ways to impose a bias on an estimator then sure your approach will be more susceptible to bias. Ok then, LeCun should amend his statement to say also tell the engineers not to impose a racist prior if they use some kind of engineered regularization term. Actually isn't that what fairness researchers are developing themselves? Ways to attack ML systems in order bias their behavior? Honest question.

I am personally of the opinion that it is fundamentally impossible to advance technology in a one-sided way. Anything with the power to do good can do evil too. Power itself is the danger. There might be a logical proof of this somewhere. Step very far back, and try to describe what a technology like a ML algorithm provides to society: software that can perform tasks as well as a person? discriminate between similar things using noisy observations? extract information that is obscured? The technology which accomplishes this can always be used both ways.
Prostition is legal in many countries.
Nah, more like middle to upper-middle class, with good access to education. 1 percenters are the ones with old family money and successful businesses (which they will inherit). They have no reason to leave the country for a tech job.
For those that haven't seen a Cirque show, they've recently started putting 1hr samples on YouTube. Very very different to 'traditional' circus with a lot more theatre where many of the performers are essentially professional athletes with theatre skills.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDEMP3dHAEi0ZvUl0krV3T...
I usually carry baggage and things in my left hand in order to leave my right hand free. My grip strength is tremendously better with my left hand and I'm pretty sure that's the reason.
Please don't be a jerk on HN, even when someone didn't Google.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Isn't it only the US (in the developed world) criminalizing sex work?
Why did you need the architect edition though?
I agree.
It's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.
Ethics is the one field in which you shouldn't be unwilling to listen to counterviews because the premise of the field itself is so subjective.
Just use 7-zip instead: https://www.7-zip.org/

Free, open-source, and much faster.
Well educated people who can work on this problem are not minorities, i.e. they have access to education, higher social status, better starting point. While their color of skin might be different, they don't need to be aware of all the issues their race/sex faces. Example can be difference between treatment of certain minorities in US (where most of the science is developed) and the rest of the world. A scientist at Facebook/Google will develop something for the whole world having US centric view, without access to views from other cultures and their reqiurements for fairness.
Didn't it used to be like 22/44 or 24/48?
Breaking out in standup comedy is already moving to YouTube. There are a few comics who record themselves performing to a very small crowd (probably of their friends) to get that live-audience energy, but their main audience is internet viewers.
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It's not the job of the AI researcher to solve "social biases" in every field, it's their job to build the AI. LeCun is right to focus on his task and correct it, not just start talking about structural issues to which he cannot have insight anyway.

PS "Do the work" is a creepy phrase that is popping up everywhere in SocJus.
I recommend describing the "work" that needs "doing" instead of just saying "the work" need be "done".
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At $20 they were disruptive, at $65, they are dead to me. I will be interesting to see how many others leave. The "teaser" cable package is more channels and half the cost.

I think it is just a continuing trend in Google getting squeezed harder and harder by the falling search advertising margins and no replacement or even side hustle to compensate.

Just before Google winks out of relevance I expect to see them try to charge people to use maps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zh5EqlqvHE
Yeah, we just cancelled as well after we realized we haven't logged in for a few months. I have it mainly for sports and those don't exist right now.
There's g.co/euphonia for those projects
Discord seems to have a huge focus on performance. On a number of their blogs they talk about monitoring the frame rate of the desktop and mobile apps for example... I'm not sure Slack goes that far.
I'm not sure I'm really understanding the question, but "faster at most things" is what I'm getting at. Any time you compare two different processor families, there are going to be some benchmarks that look better on one, and some that look better on others.

For Mac applications (which are obviously what Apple cares about in this context), the new processors will be faster than the previous processors.

For tasks which can be accelerated by Apple's custom silicon (video encoding/decoding, object classification), the ARM Macs will be much faster than the Intel Macs.
> Any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of Common Lisp.

Sure, because C and Fortran are extremely limited languages - no first-class functions, no sum types, pitiful error handling. In a world where language design was extremely-primitive, user-defined macros made sense. Once languages that offered standard ways of doing the constructs that most programs need were invented (i.e. ML in 1973), there were better alternatives.

> The Lisp eval function is easier to read, understand, and modify than to start over and rewrite it from scratch.

That's not actually true though. The definition in the link uses a bunch of obscure lisp-specific terminology and doesn't really gain anything from doing so. It genuinely is easier to reimplement it from scratch (perhaps with the help of a more neutral reference) than to understand the Lisp version.
Most of their revenue comes from a handful of long-running shows in Vegas. Tours and international expansions have been, for the most part, failures.
I agree, it was really easy. Unfortunately I first pressed the "manage my services" button which took me down a deep rabbit hole of other google services.
I live and work in India and I would like to throw more light on this.
Me and my friends like to joke around that you will never get your dues, either pay raise or promotions unless you have the last names jain, gupta, sharma, verma.

I had a guy on my team who was very capable but did not have the right last name, he was being harassed for promotions for 4-5 years. On the other hand the manager class was entirely "jain, gupta, sharma, verma".
I know of a specific case where the same manager had one of his relatives transferred from another branch and then promoted to manager on a different team in the same branch. This was all very hush-hush, I know of it because I overheard them talking about it. This is not some local tidbit software company, this is a company you HAVE heard about.

But it is not just caste based discrimination. There's also linguistic and region based discrimination because there is a lot of regional and linguistic diversity in India. If you travel a few hundred miles in any direction, the language and culture completely change. I have seen teams being formed around states and languages, and they will not let anyone else come into their in group. I have seen teams with extreme left ideologies that will not let anyone else in their team.

I don't believe dalits are any different, they also engange in these practices when they can and I know about people who have suffered from that situation as well.

Everyone's naked in this bath house.
I think the Yann's main point is that this specific model's racial bias was a training data problem; Gebru has not provided any evidence otherwise, as far as I know, apart from repeatedly asserting that better training data won't fix the problem.

It would indeed be a valuable contribution if Gebru could have shown how better training data would not have fixed the problem (e.g. by feeding better training data to the same model and still reproducing the issue).

But as it is, she is asserting that better training data won't help without proof and not recommending any alternatives, while taking a hostile tone of conversation. I would be hard pressed to take her claims as good faith criticism.
I got Borland c from a friend. Later on I got watcom c from crazybytes. And then visual C++.

A lot of my learning (game dev) was of course the demo scene, and x2ftp from Oulu in Finland.

Another huge step was me going to the bookstore, secretively reading game programming books, and copying code on a piece of paper.
Those books were unaffordable for me at the time, and the store guy told me to stop a few times.
Well, the issue is it became hereditary, due to corruption.
Have been using vim for over 15 years and just a handful of commands have been enough for my needs.
Insert
Set paste
Save
Quit
Search
Undo
I know there are plenty more but for me is more than enough
I mean KKR and Bain took over Toys R Us in 2005 and it filed for bankruptcy in late 2017. At the time of the LBO in 2005, Toys R Us was already hurting and not in the best place. Though we can't know the path not taken, it's probable that Toys R Us would have shut down earlier, the LBO might have been its best chance of success.

Based on the articles that I've read about the LBO, I think there is an argument to made that Toys R Us was mismanaged after the takeover: a gargantuan sum was spent every year to service the debt that was taken on after the LBO. People point out that because of this, Toys R Us was unable to make the capital investments to compete with Amazon and big-box stores.

But it's not clear to me that TRU could even begin to compete, even if they had the money for capital investment. Most of TRU's business is holiday gifts, which is particularly sensitive to disruption by online retailers. No one is stopping into TRU at the last minute for same household staple, everytime someone needs a toy you know in advance (birthdays, holidays, etc). Because of this, how could they ever have competed with Amazon?
Narrowly scoped to GIGO, the concept can be traced more generally back to Charles Babbage in the 1800s.

> On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.

I couldn’t tell you when the discussion about bias and unreliability in ML training sets started, not my field of expertise.
So it's a coordination problem. If only there were some sort of Organisation (in this specific example, for Health), whose remit was the whole World instead of particular groups, maybe we'd be able to coordinate to avoid a tragedy of the commons?
Gathering, collecting, and publishing such a dataset would be great, and would certainly much improve the baseline speech recognition for people with disordered speech, but it can only help so much without personalizing to a specific individual. This is true for anybody, but more so for disordered speech. This is an area where I think "generic" solutions will inevitably struggle, even if they are somewhat specialized on "generic disarthritic" speech.

However, this means that the gains to be had from personalized training are greater for disordered speech than for "average" speech. I develop kaldi-active-grammar [0], which specializes the Kaldi speech recognition engine for real-time command & control with many complex grammars. I am also working on making it easier to train personalized speech models, and to fine tune generic models with training for an individual. I have posted basic numbers on some small experiments [1]. Such personalized training can be time consuming (depending on how far one wants to take it), but as my parent comment says, disabled people may need to rely more on ASR, which means they have that much more to gain by investing the time for training.

Nevertheless, a Common Voice disordered speech dataset would be quite helpful, both for research, and for pre-training models that can still be personalized with further training. It is good to see (in my sibling comment) that it is being discussed.

[0] https://github.com/daanzu/kaldi-active-grammar

[1] https://github.com/daanzu/kaldi-active-grammar/blob/master/d...