skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
maybe "they were successful in a period that comes quite close to where we are now"?
People forget that success is not an immutable attribute - it is the sum total of hard work and decisions that are put in every week, every month, every year, over a longer period of time. But as much as it is the product of a longer period of time, success can wax and wane throughout the decades and a company can be wiped out or acquired on less-than-favorable terms if they fail to adapt to the next large-scale change in the industry.
exactly.
I'm not saying that those companies are perfect, but writing opinion articles only against them it's becoming a bit too much.

You can also find it in many marketing strategies of some companies. Take duckduckgo for example, I love them more than google but I'm kinda tired of 'Use us, Because Google is BAD' approach
or we could all move to something decentralized like peertube. It doesn't need to all be hosted by one company.
Thanks!

We're currently free. We'll roll out or pricing soon but it will be something like:

- Free for teams under 6 users

- $10-12/month for teams up to 25 users

- Some sort of higher enterprise pricing above that
To be fair you really pay with your data. I know there are different opinions on this topic but fmpov this is the worst type of payment.
And guess who's fault is that ?
>we would never chose to use g-suite over office365

Do these products meaningfully compete? G Suite seems to be the simple version and Office365 seems to be the complex behemoth.

I see them as a shovel vs a backhoe.
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Most of the abandonware sites that I've seen are aware that it is illegal, will only post software that has not been sold or supported for a certain time frame (usually a decade), and deliberately avoid companies that are known to be hostile to the concept. If a product comes up for sale again, some sites will remove the software at their own initiative.

While those self imposed criteria may be regarded as acts of self-preservation, I get the impression that some of the people who run these sites are more interested in software preservation. (In earlier times, many sites actively sought out permission to post software but it sounds like that became all but impossible for various reasons.)
If the best talent or opportunity isn't in the southeast, then companies won't go there, so I think it's not as simple as "just open your office in the southeast". Companies are distributed closer to their relevant hubs. Like you said, people don't want to move, especially if it means taking loss in efficacy.
It is not about being handwritten or not, in many situations physical letters have a different legal weight than other mediums.
Why would it be worthless? No medical trial gives you absolute proof of its results, it just increases your confidence the drug is safe or effective. It's vanishingly unlikely that a ransomware attack was actually targeted to get a new drug approved.

Now, it might be good to insist on a rigorous chain of custody or you'll reject the results, in order to better incentivize security. That's an approach that has parallels in criminal justice: in the US it's (in theory) not good enough for a cop to produce incontrovertible evidence you committed a certain crime, he also has to have come by that evidence lawfully. But if it was going to save my life, I'd rather see a new drug approved in a timely manner rather than get held back on a technicality.
Yeah, possibly. Chrome actually has something called "native messaging" https://developer.chrome.com/apps/nativeMessaging which seems like a potentially more secure (and faster?) alternative, but I haven't had time to play with it yet.
Both the seller and the buyer benefits from the subsidy, while only the taxpayer pays for it. So the net benefit is to the chinese seller and net loss is to the taxpayers, which only partly mitigated if they are buyers too.
You should be grateful, the threat of antitrust action is literally the only thing that is slowing down Google turning Android and Chrome into their own private internet. It's not enough, so far, so the authorities really needs to step up their game.

And the idea that you can't name and shame a trillion dollar corporation because there are other big companies around is pernicious. The idea is mistaken, no one should escape scrutiny because there are other bad actors. And if Google isn't big enough to be singled out, who is?
If you work in the tech industry or have a web site, I'd say there's a good chance you are affected by Google.
Current (US) laws, if I understand correctly, designed to prevent leveraging success in one market to harm your competitors in another.

For example if Chrome would only work with google docs and not microsoft live.

USA does not have laws to break up companies simply for being too big or even for being used by majority of customers.
> “For many years, the astonishing torrent of money thrown off by Google’s Web-search monopoly has fueled invasions of multiple other segments, enabling Google to bat aside rivals who might have brought better experiences to billions of lives.”

This was described as the ultimate reason to break up Google. Then he goes on to explain 6 more reasons.
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Well, you are still free to not use Google and deny them access to your data, there are alternatives to all of their services. With some of the other companies mentioned, this might be trickier...
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And with Firebase you can expect a fast increase in cost within 2-5years (the Google Maps model)
I am all for breaking google, but then you also have apple (app store monopoly), amazon (delivery monopoly), facebook (personal data collection), microsoft (total grip on public contracts)... Not to mention non virtual companies. Are American ready to break Walmart? Cause given their lobbying capability, they are more dangerous than google for democracy.

The sudden focus on google is a bit weird, given how non internet companies have been doing their thing in total impunity for decades. Not saying we should not do it, but it would be sane to also ponder if we are being influenced in doing so, and why.
Disclaimer - english is not my first language

Hey dang,

I am curious. what could I have done better?

if OP said he is suffering "solely" because of his colour and I think, its borderline impossible to pin point a result of large complex system on any one thing?

P.S. - do people flag my comments or did you just see it on your own.
I was told that the trick to making Twitter tolerable is to only follow interesting people in specific fields of interest.

I tried that and was immediately disappointed. It makes it obvious that someone who is an expert in one topic can be extremely naive about everything else. This isn’t really a surprise, but I’d rather not have a feed that seems to specialize in showing me all the emotional and largely political rants of people I respected. Twitter feels like one huge, awkward Thanksgiving dinner where everybody is looking to pick a political fight with everybody else over anything at all.
Having lots of profit just means it is a good business.

It doesn’t demonstrate that it is a monopoly nor that it is a harmful monopoly.

There are plenty of other highly profitable areas of business. They just usually take their earnings instead of investing them in new things.
To be fair the "old Google" mindset died off a decade or so ago during the big Google+ push when they feared an existential threat in Facebook. That threat never quite materialized, probably because FB are just as unsuccessful with their also-ran products as Google are with theirs, but Google still shook themselves up into a company I no longer admire.

For example (and sorry not trying to pick on any team in particular!) compare something like Google+ to Facebook Search, where the team had to actively make the UI worse to use to juice their metrics for FB's onerous performance reviews so they could keep their jobs and continue working on FB Search at all.

Does anyone remember back around the time that Graph Search was a big deal when you lost the ability to directly click on FB Search typeahead results, like starting to type a friend's name and clicking on the suggestion to go straight there? Requiring two clicks instead of one means every one of those searches now counts as a "full" search results page impression =p
Ha.... yeah and I did count that as one of them, because three is funnier than two. :)
That is a big lie that BLM is not organized and just some loose coalition of all kind of political groups. There is an interview with one of the founders of BLM on youtube. That person says that she is a trained marxist and a trained organizer. BLM is also very well funded thanks to many corporate sponsors. There is nothing spontaneous about it.
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Honestly I’m wondering what innovations they’ve had in the last 5 years. I’ve been around long enough to see their decay in that area. YouTube you mentioned was an acquisition. Android was created in 2008. Maps in 2005. What’s really new with Google besides a ton of failed ideas like Reader, G+, and messenger apps?
Japan's exposure to jazz extends well beyond the "lounge" setting.

It is home to some incredibly important participants in the free and avant-garde jazz scenes.
>if you don’t like it then set a better one

Which would affect every site.
But as the post above said:

> People saying “defund the police” are not advocating the complete elimination of police forces

And Minneapolis is absolutely not completely eliminating their police force.

Minneapolis council member Phillipe Cunningham said [1]:

> ”This isn't like, tomorrow we're not going to have a police department and we're going to have this huge gap," he said. "There will be intentional transition and investments and policies. I just want to make sure folks understand that there's not going to be suddenly no one to call when they need help.“

Councilman Jeremiah Ellison said [2]:

> “I don’t want there to be this confusion of just, that there’s going to be nobody doing anything, that there’s gonna be nobody solving murders. No,” Ellison said. “We’re going to absolutely make sure there are systems in place to address an active shooter situation, for example.”

In the link you just provided:

> Councilman Jeremiah Ellison, who represents North Minneapolis, said he would not frame what the Council was doing as defunding the police, but rather as “funding a different safety strategy.”

What concerns me is there are many people who are implying (if not outright saying) that people don’t want safety. And frankly that’s just silly. Every proposal I’ve seen has had community safety at its forefront. And a gradual shifting of funds towards alternatives to our (USians) current version of police does not mean that communities suddenly don’t value safety and stability.

Either way, Minneapolis is absolutely not going to eliminate their police departments, no matter how panicky certain news orgs try to make people. They’re going to actually, over time, dismantle their current clusterfuck which makes communities’ quality of life terrible, and actually implement real changes. What does this look like? We don’t know yet, but at least they’re doing more than empty platitudes. They readily say “We’re going to make mistakes along the way.” but at least they’re finally actually addressing the situation and willing to do the work.

[1] https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/06/07/vetoproof-majority-...

[2] https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/minne...
They did not do anything illegal.

How is this connected to "break up Google" argument?

If this was illegal, I'm sure the SEC would be on it not just for Google but for the million other companies doing the same.
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Yossi’s C++ FQA (rebuttals to each of the C++ FAQ) is worth checking out if you enjoyed this. His Twitter is pretty fun too.
Quarantine Time has really made me value a few extra hours a day more, I never realized how much that affected my average day to day before then.
Here's the screwup I experienced, as I understand it:

I started a new branch and developed on it.

I realized that my installs were no longer updating when I did a git pull, because I was no longer committing to master.

So I did a git checkout on the installs, and all was good.

Then, I wanted to merge the branch into master, so I did.

Then I did a "git push".

This is where things got screwed up, I think, because I did not know that, apparently, git does not push the whole tree in this case, only the currently selected branch. (wtf?)

After this, I looked at my local code, and some of my recent changes were gone, because it had either reverted to ... some older fucking version.

And that's when I posted this thread.
How about twitch?
tbh, there's an upper cap on how much information an individual is worth.

Say a pretty basic personal information (address, income etc) cost a dime each person, it can get deeper and deeper until it is no longer worth any extra. 10 political opinion from this person? Interesting. Full reddit history? Maybe worth 2x the former. Facebook images? probably worthless. The point is that it quickly gets to the point where all of these information are noise and essentially worthless to an advertiser.

It is completely another story when you have people with authoritarian intentions coming in though.
Yes, I looked this up. It's quite shocking and deeply frightening. The US navy are the primary military counter to PLAN (PLA Navy). I wonder whether this happening solely due to leadership or because China has become the first manufacturing base for the world and the US is losing its expertise. Difficulties in Navy supply chains indicate a more systemic problem.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/01/14/worse-th...
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The same thing happened with MVC.

MVC was originally used to describe a design using Smalltalk UI widgets as controllers and charts and other similar displays of data as views that worked with business logic stored in the model. State flowed only in one direction, from controller to model to view.

Web MVC completely overthrew that approach and replaced it with something very different with the same name.

All UX was moved to the view, controllers became HTTP endpoints. Communication became bidirectional at both interface layers. View talks to the controller which talks to the model.

When people say they use REST APIs, they aren't.

When people say they are building MVC applications, they aren't.

Except they are. The new meanings that evolved have replaced the original meanings.
The only reason I've been able to use Git in the first place is because of visual tools in IntelliJ.

But although it supports branching, the UI is indecipherable to me, and I used console for that.
To be fair, it is not the role of a corporate to "benefit society", but instead to benefit shareholders.
Oh jesus. I don't Lisp but I guess I should start now since I'm in that mindset already.
> If a point P is on Pareto front, it is not in the interior of the convex hull of undominated points.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? Is this under the assumption of a convex Pareto front? I may be misunderstanding.
Google isn't yielding any good results - what has astronomy got to do with biochar?
Would users get a better service from the successors of YouTube? Would we have to watch more ads?
Laws are what the government decides they are, and the details of that are very complicated.

Depending on who you ask antitrust is about the impact on consumers (competition, fair pricing, etc), not about whether some particular footnote to a law was violated due to someone misplacing a decimal point.

FTR the US government has historically in fact made multiple efforts to prosecute companies like Google for violations of the law, so...
Or a YouTube style site just wouldn't exist...
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I didn't see any mention of profit there.
Yt infrastructure cost without Google would to be to high ... YT can only exists due to cheap infrastructure that it can leave the thanks to Google scale
The government goes straight to the ISP 90% of the time anyway for things like internet history, and to the cell phone companies for location.
There are all sorts of things that don't benefit society directly that are consequences of things that do benefit society. In this case, maybe society doesn't benefit from the structure of Google, but it does benefit widely from the notion of private property, and the one is a consequence of the other.
Because she's one of the biggest proponents of Modern Monetary Theory and most economists view it as snake-oil. MMT claims to offers a fix/cure all our economic problems - everyone can have limitless money to spend as long as "sovereign" governments are the ones handing out the free money. And like snake-oil theories it collapses under the mildest of empirical tests.

I could go on, I guess (random google) an article like this sums it up for me: https://www.singlelunch.com/2018/10/01/bad-economics-shame-o...
There are other sites out there offering similar services, albeit at a different scale. You could argue that some of them (like Twitch) are being dumped on the market in a similar manner, though.

Twitch's feature set is not that different from YT's at this point. They both have very elaborate streaming services, a financial support mechanism, viewable archives with seeking, automated muting for copyrighted content, and recommendations systems.
If you have a limit that says "2 people per group" and you have groups with vastly different sizes, it can "seem" like discrimination. E.g. if you're from a group that has 500000 people, your odds of being chosen are much smaller than if you were from a group that had 1000 people. I believe the term is used lightly in that context, more as a point to the original poster's comment.
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We force corporations to do all sorts of things that harm shareholder value in pursuit of benefitting society. Voters get to decide what they want the role of a corporation to be.
People like me and OP can't do what you say, which is just timebox things. I suppose we are not disciplined that way. I know how important exercise is, but I still cannot bring myself to work out every day or even every week. The only solution that works for me at least somewhat sometimes is to throw money at it or put external methods of forcing me to do the thing I actually want to do long-term. As a matter of fact, I go a step ahead of OP and have a separate laptop for personal projects. It's crappy and can't do much other than ssh so it's perfect. I suppose as long as one finds a system it's okay?

Perhaps if I get electroshock therapy and/or go to an ashram and meditate I might get more internal self-control, but I'm 32, and can't be bothered with it. Thats partly because I'm also not convinced it's that important that I become disciplined: sometimes being lazy feels good and maybe it's a part of what makes me who I am. I'm not self-sabotagingly lazy (except in exercise which I need to work on), so as long as I and others find a system why not?
Thanks for the comments guys. Not talking about terminal replacements here. The actual explorer shell. Basically so you have a completely different desktop. Check out Litestep for more info. Anyway, I’ll do some digging to see what the scene is like these days. Was just wondering if anyone on HN remembered the scene or knows if it’s still a thing/active...
I agree, I meant to write physical letters. And if it's of legal weight, they should be able to afford shipping.

The problem is not physical letters, it's the postage of goods across the world, being cheaper because of subsizidies.
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It was very usable. Performed incredibly well. And was boring as hell.

I think it's the latter issue that drove it to it's doom.
Impossible to know for sure, since any better service is going to get suffocated by Google's market power unless it's backed by another huge player like Amazon.
How much were Judas' thirty pieces of silver worth?
> like the fediverse which has already proven sustainable enough it might even be better.

Is that going to scale to more than a couple non-technical users?

> if you tried to cut out google entirely from your life your quality of life would drop substantially to the point where it might affect your job and well being. That is the main problem with google and that's why people think it needs to be broken up.

You can say the same about Microsoft Word. When will that be broken up in PowerPoint, Word, and Excel?
The expression ‘break up a company’ carries some moral judgement in it, as if it’s a punishment for doing bad things.

Not sure exactly what it is, but it’s more a societal move that smells a bit of socialism. Google is a capitalist company in a capitalist system, but the breaking up companies / anti trust is a non-capitalist power above it that is willing to sacrifice money to create societal wealth.
When breaking up a tech company, an option that never seems to be considered is to give the products to both child companies. That way they start to compete with each other. Admittedly, only one can have, e.g. the youtube domain or associated employees but many things are just a case of making a copy.
The Mac technically had RS-422 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-422#Applicationsj, which allowed for much higher data speeds and larger cable lengths, but could be used as RS-232, too.
Twitch is bankrolled by Amazon at this point so it's hard to say whether it's actually a good example. It started out as a live streaming service (for games only!) and slowly pivoted towards YouTube while YT pivoted towards Twitch with the addition of live streaming, subscriptions, etc.
I hear your argument, and it’s a good one. That said, we break up monopolies, we confiscate dangerous animals that people privately own, we tax inheritance... and we have well established rules of eminent domain for just this reason. As I said, I have no trouble with them being compensated fairly for it, and I think that protects the economic system.
The post literally mentions other big tech companies that are similar candidates for enforcement.
Really interesting idea to be aware of, thank you.
Well, the public does support money going to universities.

And I believe there are quite some people, who opposes more money going to the military.
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This would be really helpful in Sweden to find the many summer houses that are off main roads.
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"Having lots of profit just means it is a good business."

Are you going to seriously argue that's the case? The companies that created the opioid crisis made a truckload of money off it. Health insurers make tons of money. For that matters, dealing illegal drugs is very very profitable and that's why crime syndicates are involved in it. So is selling weapons to the military, or generally involving yourself in foreign wars.

Thankfully Google, Facebook etc have not had the kind of negative impact the opioid crisis has, but there's a proven record of negative impacts like the whatsapp lynchings.
Not really.

We, the people, choose the lawmakers (congress) via election.

I still don't see your argument. How is voting power tied to Tim's post?
Breaking up monopolies gives us more free markets, and is a move towards capitalism, not away from it.
As someone with colorblindness who often struggles with reading colors on maps, this would be a lifesaver if used. I love it.
It is somewhat reassuring that "English (auto-generated)" subtitles don't manage to subtitle phrases like "us real Americans" or "the truth about negroes and foreigners."