skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
That's a well-reasoned response which I can appreciate. But honestly, read my original post to which you replied. I said I shared the parent's disgust, but I don't think I'm really reveling in outrage or speaking in such extreme terms as you characterize.

I'll quote it...

> "There are certainly shades of gray, but if I can speak on behalf of the post you are responding to, it seems their argument would be that it is a net negative, and that the "Good PR humanity" is relatively shallow in the end. Consider a $100,000,000 education fund for app developers. Certainly, app development can be a gateway for some people, but once they develop apps, where do they go if not a market place that Apple tightly controls? They are a machine funding the creation of new cogs in this scenario.If your overlords buy you an opulent dinner and provide you with a warm bed, it doesn't mean you are free.Freedom can be a vague and high-minded ideal that obviously needs to be balanced with communal concerns, but I agree with the parent poster's overall disgust. It feels that a company like Apple is so big that they are beyond any societal control or regulation, and that is unacceptable. To hear their minions rush to their defense as if their interests are somehow aligned (they're not) is too much to handle sometimes. It's tiring."

Honestly, I use so much language to balance and mitigate my argument that it's overly verbose.

> "There are shades of gray", "relatively shallow", "Certainly, app development can be a gateway for some people...", Freedom can be high-minded and needs to be balanced,".

Is it possible to make this point passively enough to satisfy your requirements?

I'll also admit that the parent comment was a bit more extreme in it's tone. And I'll admit there are many injustices in the world that go beyond tech. But I think the underlying issue of acquiring and maintaining freedom of all kinds is valid.

It's like saying, "With racial inequality being what it is, how can you spend your time belaboring a point about campaign finance reform?" The answer is simple: Because one form of freedom (in this case, governmental representation) facilitates those adjacent freedoms (racial equality). The importance of one doesn't invalidate the importance of the other.

I'm like, not that outraged. But I am like, casually disgusted by people who seem to have allowed huge corporations to become so apart of themselves that they lose the ability to see some obvious flaws.

I love my iPhone. Apple is far from the worst of it. But there are some very disturbing trends in tech and the world that warrant our skepticism and yes, our disgust. That it is treated as normal is part of the problem.
I bought the Klutz Book of Card Games during my high school years in the late '80s. The best part IMHO was the section on solitaire games, which provided several superior alternatives to Klondike. I played quite a bit of Yukon during my freshman year of college.

I still have the book, as well as the deck of cards that came with it. The tuckbox has held up surprisingly well!
It is. My dad and my uncle, two people completely technology illiterate love youtube, my dad (farmer) is watching videos about Canadian farmers farming, my uncle (tree surgeon) similar.

And I have no clue how they started, both watch on their phones, but both of them are so clueless about technology I honestly can't understand how they got into the youtube app in the first place. But they did and now they pretty much prefer youtube to regular tv (uk),

If youtube can entertain them then god help everyone else, cable networks, BBC, Netflix, everyone should be terrified of youtube.
I think they care, but they don't necessarily equate using Apple over Google as to be being more secure and private (the premise in this thread).

They likely see both as secure enough.
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International Partnerships are not based on values or Democracy/*cracy. China moved to market based economy earlier then India and being an autocratic country the move was swift and efficient. US wanted to befriend China against Russia in 70s/80s. India started late and kept struggling internally because of the democratic values.

If values were such important, Saudis wouldn't have been your best buddies.
I hope many countries to follow this example, not by banning and censorship but actually banning the botnets that are no good and just for mining data.
So if WeChat is basically the only messaging app allowed in China, and WeChat is not allowed to be used in India, is there any widely available platform that Indian citizens can use to chat with Chinese citizens? Making it impossible or at least very difficult to communicate with people in another country seems like it’s only going to make any divide even worse in the long term. Think of the fallout of Facebook filter bubbles but to an extreme, by making it very difficult to even communicate with someone in a different culture with different viewpoints.
I'm absolutely against banning things but TikTok should be banned until we figure out how to protect ourselves from bad actors like the CCP.
You have to be able to detect a submarine to fire on it and the US is a long way ahead of Russia when it comes to both quiet submarines and passive towed arrays.

In fact the original argument for the super-cavitating torpedo was one based on the premise of killing a submarine that already fired on you that you hadn't detected until it fired on you.

Russia has some showy tech (as you mentioned) but they lack in areas the US was ahead of them in decades ago.

In terms of technology there are other countries with more sophisticated defence capabilties where I am from is one (the UK) is one, much of the technology the Russians export is things they did under the USSR (which definitely was #2 in terms of military tech at that point).

When you get down to it though modern war is force projection and logistics and there no one touches the Americans.
If that's the case, we'd see some sort of pattern. Instead, there are specific events where, for some reason, one individual seems to infect 10s or more. Then those that are infected don't really seem to spread it as much despite being in the same environment. It'll be interesting to see how the research on this plays out over time.
How strange, as I’m the opposite. I’m about as anti-conservative as they come: UBI, legalize almost everything, universal healthcare and insurance, but I’m extremely against abortion.
I asked about the algorithm thing--that's what I'm curious about. Where specifically does that belief end.
More like

20 - OK

25 - hmm

28 - grow up
Yeah, that's something I was discussing with a friend too. Would be great to be able to shop fresh food online in a way that's more similar to how we do it in a physical store.
Source on the demographics? That’s really interesting.
Exactly what I'm saying. A tried and tested tactic that works well. And in fact I think China is playing a similar game, and the Chinese public buys it in the same way.

But it is a dangerous game because it can get out of hands. I think both sides know it and they don't want things to escalate. We need to see how the pandemic develops and hits both countries and their economies. I'm more worried about the Indian side at the moment because the pandemic situation seems out of hands and deteriorating fast there.
India is not fascist. The Hindu-nationalism promoted by the BJP and used to degrade and direct violence toward other ethnic groups is a fascist ideology. They never really have tried to pretend otherwise:

> In 2004, when now-Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi was the Chief Minister of Gujarat, school textbooks published by the Gujarat State Board portrayed Hitler as a hero, and glorified fascism. The tenth-grade social studies textbook had chapters entitled "Hitler, the Supremo," and "Internal Achievements of Nazism."

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/hitlers-hindus-indias-nazi-l...

China is an authoritarian state Capitalist regime, but not fascist, because of its history and relationship with communist ideologies, and how they still shape their internal politics and ruling structures.
I'd rather not be feeding my draconian regime
> coronavirus transmission more or less follows the 80/20 Pareto Principle...while another looking at transmission in Shenzhen, China, pegs the numbers closer to 80/10
I am also open to the sources that the low level mods were "hired" by the top mods.
You're being snarky and rude in response to a completely polite and reasonable post. Are you only happy having discussions in an echo chamber?

You can't seriously expect me to read a book on your request.
A cryptic name doesn't help: Kwai-bee? Kwee-bye? 100% fail on branding 101.
And a white supremacist is not someone who advocates for bringing jobs back home, or enforcing immigration law. But people still feel free to call Trump racist because of those policies.

The reason is that people view him as having ulteriour motives beyond his stated ones.

Everyone is for affordable housing, so being in favour of that has no political bearing. But there are different proposed solutions to that. Putting a wealth cap of $10 million is a very communist-like solution, and I don't think it's unfair to describe the subs were those views are predominant as socialist or communist leaning.
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So? That just means that two variables are closely related. You have to be very blind and ignorant to take the implication that white people are less happy, or something. Is it racist to take a photo of a sad white person?
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Who does the moderation? Some really messed up stuff gets uploaded to basically every social media platform [0] and I sure as hell do not want to deal with that.

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18229714/cognizant-facebo...
As i said earlier in the thread.

India must shift its trade integration into democracies and wean away from China.

Everything must have a beginning and this is the right time for India to wake up and stop its indirect economic support toan authoritarian bully.
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Ask HN: High level market analysis for entrepreneurs?
As an entrepreneur who builds software, it would be nice to know some high-level data like:
1) What are the different sectors of the economy ranked by GDP?
2) To what degree has software penetrated those sectors?
3) What barriers exist in those sectors?
4) Are those sectors growing, shrinking, or staying the same?

Obviously, (1) is answered and I'm sure people have written about the other questions in an ad-hoc manner, but has anyone done a top-level data-driven analysis?

I was thinking about this after hearing people at Stripe talk about "growing the GDP of the internet." I think the GDP of the internet will grow at the expense of GDP not on the internet over the next few decades. This will have broad implications on the economy that should inform where we choose to build software products.

Any resources would be appreciated, even if they're only pieces of the puzzle.
You have a good point. But TikTok is much more risky, and as as such requires much more scrutiny given existing body of knowledge between how chinese social media / chat companies such as WeChat enforce government censorship and aid in propagating misinformation.

This might be a shock to most people in the western world, but if you go on almost ANY news website in china, the headline news is dedicated to government propaganda.

The reality is that Chinese firms and government operates together intimately. Nearly all sizable firms have a party secretary that is involved in board level decisions, and steps in when things get political. You can ponder who has the final say.
I would be inclined to say yes uninstall it.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23638129
People see what catches their attention.

Some people would go there and read articles about gay women being attacked for choosing whom they took on as sexual partners. (I found it quite surprising and extremely rapey that anyone would consider it appropriate to be critical of anyone for choosing their consenting sexual partners however they like-- but it happens sometimes.)

Or read about people being displaced from scholarships because the top spots in track in their community were held by hormonally advantaged persons.

Or learn about cases where tomboyish young women were told that they were actually men because they were interested in science or sports.

Personally, I find it too easy to be extremely self righteous in ethical proclamations if I never even get exposed to the corner cases where there can be a truly difficult conflict of rights.

Now-- taking fringe events like the above examples and exaggerating them as some kind of endemic phenomena absolutely can fuel hate. It isn't always an easy line to walk.
Regardless of what people think about the current president, the banning of a sitting president on a platform will have enormous implications for the tech industry.

I expect one of the first things will be losing their Section 230 immunity and being treated more like publishers instead of telecos (this has actually already started, so perhaps I'm not being super creative here...).

Second, should he win a second term, I expect Trump will have the Federal Election Commission investigate this, as their bias (not just Twitch, but anyone) will probably be targeted as unregistered Superpacs. This will probably cause fallout on both sides of the political spectrum over time.

Future presidents & politicians of all parties are going to have something to say about this too - especially when they feel they are treated unfairly.

I think that platforms will have to become less "public" in order to minimize their liability. For instance, you don't need an account to view tweets, so it being truly "private" communications can be challenged (i.e. it is not the same as communication on a members-only forum that is inaccessible to the general public).

Twitter and others may have to seriously reconsider their current openness. Twitch probably will have the same issue, as I can watch a gamer like NickEh30 at https://www.twitch.tv/nickeh30 without an account easily .

Honestly, I don't know what the right answer is, as censoring speech is a tricky proposition (and has been since the beginning of time in democracies). But I do know that the politics surrounding this issue is about to get a lot louder on all sides of the political spectrum. Hold on tight - 2020 is about to get even more fun...not.
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More to do with India being on back foot. Lockdown has halted the economy, millions of migrant workers have been displaced and MSMEs are in disarray. India can't afford to have a war at the moment.

I don't think any substantial shift will happen in near future.
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I'm afraid the good old day of engineer/STEM leadership in CCP has long gone due to Culture Revolution. Most of the current CCP leaders grew up during that time, when the education system of the whole country was basically destroyed.

As a result, the education level of the current Politburo members is shockingly low. For example, Xi Jinping barely finished his middle school, then went to Tsinghua as a Worker-Peasant-Soldier student[1]. Apparently he was not well-educated, as he makes so many illiterate mistakes [2] in public speeches.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker-Peasant-Soldier_stude...
[2] https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AF%B9%E4%B9%A0%E8%BF%91%...
The citation needed anti-science crowd comes out hard in any HN COVID-19 discussion. I don’t know about you guys but the only sources I need are Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. Scientists are just trying to mind control us with scary science!
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> So if WeChat is basically the only messaging app allowed in China

How did you get that impression? There are a ton of chinese messanging apps, e.g., QQ, which is also on the list of banned apps.
Chapo was the only interesting subreddit remaining, or at least the only one that still brought me to the site, but I’d gladly take losing it so that reddit can use a “both sides” narrative to deplatform racists.

TD was pretty much in zombie mode since they replaced all the mods and the users moved to other conservative subs. I also think many of the more extreme/active users graduated to 8ch. This is probably just reddit getting ahead of the election to be extra sure they can keep it advertiser friendly as it heats up
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This isn’t even about picking a political side. Being racist, misogynist, or calling to violence is not an opinion, it’s even downright illegal in some countries. There are plenty of subreddits on the political spectrum for example on economic theories, socialistic or capitalistic, or the pro/limiting immigration. But the line is clear with hateful content.
Really they are seperate matters of banning in my opinion of speech vs payment as murky and intertwined as they may be. Demonetizing it is far more defensible than banning the speech per se and far less exploitable and narrower scoped to the goals.

Essentially in this case it would make more sense to embargo financial systems from Chinese application developers (putting aside how poorly the attempted trade war have gone in the past) but the apps themselves being technically legal.

I am not sure of the actual cold war legal specifics but it would be like the difference between wiring money to Pravda being illegal funding of the USSR but republishing it in the US to point out what the hell they are saying internally would be protected. (The piracy being allowed is essentially a feature - why privledge enemies with your enforcement absent existing treaties?)
I'm still amazed at how effectively the media has brainwashed half of the voting public in the US that the other half are literal monsters.

I say this with complete sympathy and sincerity - please seek professional help, from a declared non-political therapist. You need to break out of the daily "two-minutes of hate" conditioning, and just relearn to live in a society with different viewpoints.
I would say my phrasing was misunderstood. I was genuinely curious...oh well...

I'm doing that now because I've been downvoted. I didn't do that with my initial question which was the one that was downvoted.
> There's a lot of non-techies outside of SV who seem to think that developers/designers/product-managers are just doing the menial plumbing of building out other people's ideas, and that anyone can do the same thing if they just had access to capital. Maybe this debacle will convince them that there's more to building a successful business than just capital and "an idea".

This is interesting.

It's probably hard to distinguish companies w/ entirely different culture and talent from the outside, it might be easy to lump any new company into the same category of "disruptive" or something.

If you had to draw this distinction - which signs would you look for?
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People downvoted you unjustly. Your position is substantiated.

The amount of actual impact on trade in between China, and USA is completely microscopic in relation to the amount of noise, and commotion.

One can not believe that sides genuinely oppose each other, rather than doing a theatrical performance with unspoken mutual understanding.
That's the type of behavior I would applaud. If a country is not handling law enforcement to your satisfaction, then simply don't do business there.

My issue is with an American company literally furthering their business interests by hiring foreign actors to intimidate and threaten. The relevant quote from the article:

"Mr. Sullivan’s team hired Nigerian contractors to confront him."
You are arguing in bad faith. Obviously one should be made welcome no matter whether they're white, a nationalist, religious, or all of these, but it should be easy enough to infer from context that this is not what the parent comment was about. It is about making clear that this welcome does not extend toward making other groups feel unwelcome, that is, toward prioritizing that welcome over others.
The likely outcome of that is that any app that didn't some communities would itself be banned from the Google and Apple app stores.
Serious title/link mismatch. Submitter likely made a typo pasting address. How this got voted up at all and why sibling comment got voted down are mysteries.

EDIT: Was this MacRumors post the intended link? https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/29/apple-rosetta-2-a12z-be...
another example of
a) people with too much time on their hands
b) the over use of hyperbole
The whole cancelling of the opposition is the reason why those who do it, become their own echo-chamber and will continue to find every. single. thought-criminal. and suffocate them in livelihood, privacy and financial healthiness.

Twitter has been the ground digital war of the liberal-left and (some of the far-left) over the conservative right and (some of the actual far-right) and the right-wingers retreated to their own chambers with the former have Twitter under its control. As soon as 'the right' we're told to 'create their own platform' which they have done many times, cancellation was always the goal from those from the left.

Having echo-chambers creates one-sided discussions but unfortunately they are left with no choice given that cancellation is inevitable where-ever they go. If both sides are yelling, screeching and howling at each other they're both not listening to one another which is nothing like a reasonable debate.
I think I will add to the chorus: I learned to juggle via the juggling book, and still participate in the activity to this day (~25 years later). Lots of friends and memories performing around my hometown in those intervening years, as well as large juggling conventions.

Still have my old copy by the way! Good stuff. I also vaguely remember writing you all a letter (on paper!) around that time, too.

So thanks for the book! It certainly changed my life for the better in many ways.
The knitting community is particularly vulnerable to this kind of entryism, as is any other hobby that's seen as traditionally female. Sewing, cooking, etc.

A lot of these groups are getting infiltrated by 'tradwives', a strain of anti-feminist, white nationalist women. They'll join these groups and gladly talk everyone's ear off about how knitting and the like are the only hobbies decent women should be engaged in and how they plan to have as many children as possible to outbreed POC. And that means that any knitting community has to either ban trads on sight or be taken over by them, with no in-between.

Edit: Example: https://twitter.com/banrionnagealai/status/12729121743614074...
“ Why should platform owners decide what's right and what's wrong”

Because they made the platform. In some light, it’s the same logic that allows businesses to refuse service, or homeowners to defend their property.
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Maybe it's just me but when I look at eBay I see a combination of luck and turning a blind eye to counterfeiting. You're right they make a lot of money but it doesn't mean she is a genius leader.
I can’t say what India’s motivation is for sure. Maybe there’s a credible threat in a way that Facebook isn’t. Maybe it’s just anti-Chinese fervor. But saying anything outside of India should be treated the same is not taking into account geo-politics and individual country’s behaviors.