skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Wow, after a couple of decades of pointing and laughing, I might finally have to buy a Mac. Assuming, of course, they don't stick their own Management Engine-alike in there.
It's all well and good to survey people and have them answer "no" to the question "Do you want to be tracked?"

But if Facebook threw up two buttons, one saying I agree to allow targeted ads, and one saying "$17/year" and requires you to give your credit card information, it's naive to think a substantial percentage will hit the $17/year button for a product they've already been using for free.

This is, after all, how the internet got to be where it is. Not through the use of 'walled gardens' and paywalls. But by providing ad supported content.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23603874
OS X was running on internal x86 machines basically from the beginning, if I remember my folklore correctly. NeXTSTEP could run on x86 as well.
It's an integrated GPU so it isn't going to compete against serious dedicated GPUs, and no one should expect that. I imagine much like existing Apple devices (and Windows laptops) with dedicated GPUs it will switch as necessary. But at least the integrated GPU will be better.
Here is a bit of history of the migration to Intel based CPUs.

"Apple's initial press release indicated the transition would begin by June 2006, and finish by the end of 2007, but it actually proceeded much more quickly. The first generation Intel-based Macintoshes were released in January 2006 with Mac OS X 10.4.4 Tiger, and Steve Jobs announced the last models to switch in August 2006, with the Mac Pro available immediately and with the Intel Xserve available by October 2006.[2] The Xserve servers were available in December 2006.[3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%27s_transition_to_Intel_...
> Some people just do not understand that employees are more productive if they are comfortable.

I'd wager most people understand it. Like you pointed out, it's an issue with the perception of lost control, and people are willing to trade productivity for power.
vapid - offering nothing that is stimulating or challenging.

I'm curious how you have evaluated JBP to be vapid, could you provide some details of your analysis?
Teaser for Foundation – An Apple Original
Neat design! I made related a tool that crawls a given URL and generates a 3D sitemap (essentially a directed graph): https://github.com/schedutron/visualnet
I really wonder what this says about the x86 platform going forward.

Mobile completely passed it by.

I’ve been seeing more hype about ARM servers for a while with AWS Graviton instances, the new #1 supercomputer in the TOP500, etc.

And of course today we see that Apple plans to transition their Macs to their own ARM chips. Even Microsoft made an ARM-based Windows/Surface product but it didn’t seem to amount to much. I wonder if they’ll want to make another stab at it seeing Apple’s direction with strong vertical integration.

While I don’t think x86 as a platform is going away anytime soon, I feel like its market share and by extension its relevance will slowly dwindle over the next decade or two. Interesting times.
I can routinely download any torrent in the world on top speed... What problem does it solve?

Torrents, as a poor choice for the "killer app", aside, state channels are a curious technology but most traditional implementations [fully pre-collateralized channels] have a design flaw where no one wants to put money to the end user, while happily accepting inward capacity from the senders. Haven't looked into this specific implementation, i wonder if it has a fix for this. "Virtual channels" sound relevant here.
Hoping there's a way to switch to a more compact view, but as shown in the keynote it looks terrible. What is with the insistence on wasting space in modern operating systems? Were people getting too productive with new, large displays?
What percentage of city bus riders or public restaurant visitors do you think use the wheelchair ramp?
> Those were also lower-end computers with poor GPUs.

You mean the Surface Pro X? It has similar price tiering to the iPad Pro whose SoC was used in these demos.
Aside from ToS and legal stuff, what API roadblocks are there that make developing a browser impossible?
I'm using brave browser and never see a paywall on economist.

So I guess the answer is to block JavaScript and cookies
I agree, Batman is an excellent example of a misanthropic, pretentious contrarian ;)
That’s my takeaway too. But imagine the impact of the speed is as good or faster? They’re shipping with 16 gigs ram too so it’s at least not the typical 8 gig minimum.
Longtime user of Safari on macOS, switched about 2 years ago to Firefox and I've been in love ever since.
See what’s new with Mac Catalyst
I applaud sites that work without Javascript.

The sad reality is that the enormous popularity of SPA frameworks like React and Angular make this possibility a small fraction of important sites — e.g. I don’t know if any banking or investment website that works without JavaScript.

Maybe this is less important as app-culture supplants such sites.
Perhaps they are "secretive" in the same sense that their story is "untold": not particuarly.
> policies were being abused (WFH employees not getting on VPN for days at a time, for example).

And they were still putting in enough work to not get fired? Maybe those jobs were really easy then, and could have been combined into fewer roles. Or management wasn't keeping track of how much work there was to go around, and hadn't maxed out their workers' capacity. Either way, it seems like bad management.
Intel has been milking those 14nm++++++ processors for so long now that TSMC went screaming past dragging AMD and Apple with them, I'm not seeing an upside for Intel out of any of this and that's before Meltdown.

I'm still smarting about that dropping 3 weeks after we rolled new servers out at work.
The whole point of the paper is that coefficient of variation affects the herd immunity threshold. And it obviously does, if you read the paper. The problem is, we don't know for sure what the CV is-- we can only guess based on history and observations.

> Just reading, in one meat processing plant in Germany, from 3000 workers tested they have 1000 PCR positives

This makes me think you don't understand any of the argument. A) CV includes things like contact network structure. OK, meat plants are an unfavorable contact network structure: this proves the point! If we have an observed R0 of 2.5 or 3.0, it includes (disproportionately) people who spend time in places with unfavorable conditions and contact others with unfavorable network structure. If there's a CV, what that means is that in some subgroups of contact structure and individual susceptibility (e.g. meat plants) we have an R0 much higher than 3, and in the bulk of the population we have an R0 much lower than 3.

B) Even ignoring this, there's nothing to say you won't overshoot a herd immunity threshold. The herd immunity threshold is just the threshold where each infection results in less than 1 new infection, on average: it isn't a place where infection magically stops, but instead where the number infected can be expected to naturally decrease. Obviously it's advantageous to have the infected count as low as possible when this happens, because it's only a slow decay from that point.
I'm curious on how the dynamics would change in that system. Frankly I think it would make everything quite a bit worse. I think one of the only benefits of twitter is that it allows organic popularity. Once you add penalties for getting too popular, people will need to make up that cost. What will happen is large accounts will start to advertise in their tweets, essentially defeating the purpose of removing advertising.

Plus, you could then weaponize bots against smaller accounts on a large scale
After seeing the the success of cameo.com, I think this could be a good way to get in touch with hard-to-reach influencers/celebrities/etc - might be a good way to send pitches to to high value contacts as well.
> I'm surprised we didn't get any performance numbers.

It makes sense that they wouldn't:

1. Its dev hardware, not final production hardware. They'll want to compare the A13 or A14 (or whatever SoC they finally use) for benchmarks.

2. Until the apps are optimized, it doesn't make sense for Apple to put itself in the position of bad press with premature figures.
Current Macs will still be supported, meaning intel still needs support for at least another 8-10 years.
I was surprised to hear that the transition would take two years. I was expecting it to take a shorter duration considering Apple’s experience with transitions and the performance levels of Apple Silicon (AFAIK, at least single core performance has been leagues ahead of other ARM processors on smartphones and tablets).

I don’t know what other people consider as the lifetime of a Mac (meaning the number of years they’d use a still-working Mac before deciding to buy a new one), but I do wonder just how long Apple’s promise of “supporting Intel Macs for years to come” will turn out to be. Things are surely a lot different now than they were in 2005, especially with much better hardware (and the full transition to 64 bit everywhere).

The demo of Rosetta 2, however convoluted or staged it may have seemed to some, was quite impressive to me.
Maybe it depends on the pricing for the x86 vs. ARM macs. If the ARM machines are significantly cheaper the x86 sales will probably suffer quite a bit. As someone else in this thread said, most people have no idea what processor is in their computer. They just care that it's cheaper and runs all of their stuff (browsers, photos, messages, etc.)
> This is not what thread safety means:
>
> Thread safety is a computer programming concept applicable to multi-threaded code.

Woah woah, hold your horses.

Thread-safety is a definition in the specification of the operational semantics of programming languages. It is a precise mathematical term used in proofs.

The C, C++, and Rust memory models precisely define thread-safety as "the absence of data-races".

Whatever the wikipedia says just does not apply (and if the wikipedia does not mention this, it is just incomplete in its treatment of thread safety).
No-one runs Linux on Apple laptops these days; it's completely impractical. On OS X, Zoom will obviously recompile their app for the new architecture.
I'd imagine Photoshop and other media apps are highly optimized for x86, so do have they have Adobe and other developers on board to port code over to ARM? Will they provide Rosetta-like instruction set translation?
So what is stopping people to buy the cheaper IOS / IpadOS versions of software / games and running them on their Desktops / Laptops?
They said they'd be using Intel chips for a while, it could specifically in regards to Mac Pro.

Even if apple could make a great server/high performance chip that seems like possibly a lot of additional work for little gain in the market?

Keeping intel chips for some computers may make more sense in keeping their toes in the water for intel incase they need to rekindle that relationship for future projects down the road.
Any hints on whether the os is getting substantially more locked down like iOS?
Less money in their hands makes them less powerful and more accountable to users. Lots of people get measly dividends per year for stocks relatively. The shareholder rights are probably equally or more important though in that case.
> so if the new Mac chips are ARM compliant then the ARM linux builds should work

That's not how it works. ARM is just the processor architecture. While Linux may very well support the processor, it's unlikely to support the rest of the hardware well, if at all.
Sure. But you just need to run your server at full bandwidth for one hour every day to use up 10 times more bandwidth than even lightsail would give you for the price of the server.

I assure you that you can run these servers for one hour a day and no one will bat an eye. I know people running seedboxes at full speed for 10 hours a day or so without an issue - that's 100 times the bandwidth of even Lightsail for the same price.
The text you linked to actually says that the SVE was developed cooperatively by Fujitsu and ARM, without, however, going into details about who did what.
Older and at this point mature 7nm processes which is behind I suspect the new XT processors from AMD, yields improved enough to bin higher.
Yes. The difference is definitely a sea change. To put it in concrete terms, a nuclear-powered rocket with sufficient thrust could be single-stage to mars and back for the same propellant budget and mass fraction of a first stage chemical engine which doesn't even get to orbit.
It’s mostly OpenGL/metal.
Show me a cpu intensive task which isn’t already gpu native/jit
The price is out for the developer transition kit: $500. Very reasonable.
Because they own the website and can do what they please with it? And "their" definition of garbage is banning things like "pics of dead girls" and "fat people hate". You're welcome to your own definition on whatever billion-user website you happen to administer.
Apple always goes all-in on something like this, so while they'll continue to make Intel Macs for a while, and support them for (my wild guess) 5 years, they're definitely going 100% to ARM.

Every other major hardware company plays it safe by supporting as much of their user base as they possibly can with a wide variety of configurations. Apple doesn't.
A browser's JIT needs permission to dynamically generate code and then execute it, which is the primary permission Apple doesn't grant to third parties.

Other browsers on iOS just wrap Safari's WebKit in a different UI.
AWS isn't just a couple gigabit switches, they do offer some HPC-oriented things: https://aws.amazon.com/hpc/efa/
I'm curious if (1) that first Mac to ship with "Apple Silicon" will be pack an A14 -- A14X? -- chip and (2) if we'll get new branding to distinguish CPUs for phones, iPads, and macOS devices.

UPDATE: I don't mean the developer transition kit that has a Mac mini with an A12Z, I mean the first consumer macOS device/macBook
They are probably still working on ARM specific optimizations and benchmarks, and they prefer to wait to show their results, to maximize the impact.
Alright since you asked for citation here is one: https://www.opindia.com/2019/04/popular-twitter-account-true...

This is a really popular right wing Twitter account in India which only dealt with exposing false narratives spread by leftist historians with facts. Facts from published books, memoirs of Kings who ruled India, sculptures and ancient artifacts. "True Indology" did not break any rules. Was not violent nor did he threaten anyone. Just exposing false narratives through facts. He was banned with no reason provided. This was not the first time his account was suspended. It was done multiple times. You can read complete details of what he experienced on Twitter here: https://www.mynation.com/views/true-indology-exposes-the-vic...

The number of right wing accounts shadow banned and suspended in India by Twitter is staggering. You never hear left wing accounts being suspended. No matter how much hate speech you come across. Heck those left wing accounts that get exposed for hate speech automatically turn their accounts private. That doesn't mean that Twitter doesn't know what is contained within the account right? It can still close down the account for violation of its policies. But it doesn't do that. There is a strong undercurrent against left-leaning biased social media sites like Twitter in India. It will just erupt one day just like Indians have erupted against TikTok. It is only a matter of time. Twitter is doing a big mistake by treating right wingers in India unfairly.
For me Cameo, more than any of the celebrity zoom calls, twitter sing alongs etc... has busted the bubble of celebrity.

For better or worse, society forces celebrities to live in this superposition of untouchable and relatable. Cameo kills the untouchable part because it's putting a price on their time - which to the layperson like me feels invaluable - even if we know that there is certainly a dollar figure to it.

$30 per second [0] is unreal money for anyone - If the numbers are right Hasselhof has made $11,000 for doing 51, 30 second videos. So it's certainly a benefit from each side, obviously! At that rate he could work ~30 minutes per day during the work week (2 videos per day, a couple of tries, login and upload) take a full month off a year and still make $140k.

I think for me it comes down to the realization: "I can't believe these huge celebrities have time for this" - but it could just be an artifact of quarantine.

[0]: https://www.cameo.com/davidhasselhoff
I was most excited to hear about the virtualization support. Any links to more details on that?
Yeah, per the docs¹ the article doesn't seem to be accurate in that part; none of the doc's examples mention anything about setting something to .blocking v. .evented. The keywords might not actually achieve meaningful concurrency due to implementation details (i.e. a coroutine stuck on a blocking operation, which might be what that particular global variable controls), but they definitely ain't no-ops from what I understand.

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¹: https://ziglang.org/documentation/master/#Async-Functions
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numpy/scipy/etc will have to support Accelerate instead of MKL.
...ouch, okay, I just looked up the price of Surface Pro X, and it's $1,000. I forgot how much Microsoft was charging for that thing.

Still, the Pro X has poor graphics. I'm going to assume that a dedicated GPU was being used for Tomb Raider—they would have said something otherwise.
narrator voice: no one cares
SwiftUI and Catalyst are not mutually exclusive.

I started a new iOS app recently, and there was essentially no cost to building for catalyst.

I am using SwiftUI and I considered targetting MacOS directly, but the extra work wasn’t worth it at this stage.

I think catalyst is the new Cocoa - it will grow to consume all of MacOS.
I wonder what it will mean for Hackintoshs and Wine.
It's been approved:

https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1275066259801923584
Tim Cook did say at the end that they still had intel hardware in the pipeline. Maybe Mac Pro will stay intel for a while?
We can't even suggest people wear masks without them saying we're taking their freedom away. Not way we're forcing people to save money.
Not trying to start a flame war, but as an Android user I can't help but find it shocking and funny that something this basic is a headline in 2020
App Store terms and conditions
This looks fantastic but I'll probably wait until second gen to update my 2014 MBP which I'm using as my secondary machine.

My main machine is a 5K iMac which should last me for a couple more years for web dev.
If I just purchased a new Macbook Pro 13 10th gen Intel, should I return it and wait for this?
Let me add due to the number of replies, that I was in a comfortable, safe setting with a consistent, trusted source.

I personally ran into an issue with _intense_ head pressure I've not experienced before and it was very discomforting.

As with all recreational drugs, your experience has many variables to make it pleasant or not.

So as much as I'd recommend against (and won't do it again), there's obviously great experiences to be had candy flipping.

YMMV
Don't be ridiculous, iPad Pro isn't even in the same ballpark as a modern workstation.

Even their Maya example wasn't in the same ballpark as modern workstations that are now running full path tracing on GPU.
Servers...

A lot of people developing apps that run on Linux servers use Macs, and have had MS targeting them for a couple of years as well.
Free speech is not so daft a concept. Where some restrictions are necessary, the principle of “viewpoint neutrality” still works to prevent censorship. This is the approach that First Amendment jurisprudence takes. So, where the government allows pro-abortion expression, it must also allow anti-abortion expression. But it can still set volume limits and control crowd movements and so forth, as long as it does not discriminate on the basis of viewpoint. And this applies even where its more general obligation to allow all expression does not hold.
If A12Z is based on the A12 they will never make consumer products with it but instead take a new A14
Not divulging their hand may be a thing. But they could at least have said something (rehashed) about the A12Z: "it performs better than the CPUs currently shipping in the Mac mini by X% in Y benchmark".

I'm not intrisically excited for a new Apple product, but if they could have told me, we can deliver 50% extra battery life in your new MacBook at comparable performance, that would build up some hype and maybe mindshare.

> not helpful to [...] their ability to keep selling Intel stuff.

I hope that that's it. If we're going through the pains of a platform transition, I'd like to get something out of it.
They've been trending that way even at the live events. Last few years the obviousness of all the coaching and rehearsal has been extremely distracting. I mean it was there before but not quite so intensely. They all come off as robotic or like someone's holding a gun on them.
ATV+ shows didn't all drop at once, they had a few episodes right away and then it was a weekly schedule.

But if FOMO or spoilers aren't issues for you, cycling services is a perfectly valid tactic.
Unless it only allows ARM VMs.
Authoritarianism is great in aggregates, but only those who have faced the horror know its problems, as individuals.

China is doing very well today and we have a lot to learn from them, but what happens when they reach the top and dominate ? What values will guide them ? What keeps those in power in check ?

Do you see what's happening in South China sea ?

COVID-19 spread because voices were suppressed in the beginning and a lack of free media. If anything it should be an example of the danger suppression of free speech to the whole world.

Why was the WHO president/vice president so afraid of speaking against China ?

Why are basket ball players and NBA afraid of speaking out against China but openly criticize their own president ?
Intel has either squandered the tech and we will see drastic improvements soon or possibly they’ll fall closer toward the dustbin of history. I suspect the later since they’ve been stuck at various points of specifications for a decade plus. Or they do something novel for once. I wouldn’t count them out of a breakthrough into new architectures/fab processes entirely.
Cool, I didn't know where this argument originated from. Thanks for the source.
>wouldn't stop people from using the curated app store.
>Yes you would

How? How does "allowing a competing app store, more easily allowing side-loading apps, or not forcing apps to use apple pay for subscriptions" prevent people from using a curated app store? You just said that it does, but you didn't explain how.

>Allowing these others ruins the consumer experience

Does it ruin the consumer experience on OSX?

>People already pay for that experience when they buy the iPhone.

They keep paying for that experience each time they buy an app. And if it's really a superior experience, they'd keep on paying it even if it wasn't required.

>There are also other OSes out there.

That's laughable.

>This is developer sour grapes, mad because he can't use Apple's service for free to make him more money. For a glorified crappy email application. It's so "entitled silicon valley" I can't even take it.

Basecamp stands so far apart from silicon valley culture that you almost couldn't make a worse comparison.
They didn’t rewrite macOS; I’m sure it’s been kept in-sync with ARM for at least the last few versions.

They did the same thing with PPC versions of macOS before the Intel transition.
Apple announces macOS Big Sur with a brand-new design
There's no longer inherently a performance difference. WKWebView isn't limited like UIWebView was and does support things like JIT compiling JS.
It's the A12Z and they are shipping A12Z mac minis to developers who buy one on the store starting today.