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>Do you just make up things you put in quotes? That’s not what those characters are meant for.

The two "quotes" in my comment:

>>[...] that essentially says "yeah there's probably genetic differences related to IQ among groups of humans but..." [...]

English isn't my first language, but it's crystal clear that this isn't a direct quote but is a summary of my thoughts on their argument.

>>[...] "a vocal fringe of race pseudoscience".

If you read your own link you would know that this is a direct quote.

But please, continue to educate me on punctuation.

>What you wrote in response just shows how blinded you are in just discounting other arguments.

That's rich coming from someone who started their comment with "Lol; what I thought." And someone who started their first reply to my original comment by questioning my sincerity.

>But in general, most on this site thus far have a viewpoint that is set in stone, hold their nose, and think an entire community is really stupid and politically correct.

Where could they possibly get that idea? (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23585765)

Finally, what was the point of trying to flex your credentials? You spent an entire comment reinforcing the idea that academics like you "have a viewpoint that is set in stone, hold their nose, and think an entire community is really stupid and politically correct."
I would love to see this. My frustration with sourdough recipes and websites is that too often they give instructions but skip the fundamentals that would allow the reader to truly understand what is going on and diagnose issues or customize for their desired outcome.

Also, most recipes seem to focus on round loafs baked in cast iron pans. I have done this successfully but find the shape extremely inefficient for my preferred use (sandwiches) relative to a longer, more rectangular shape. (E.g. for toasting). As soon as you want to get away from this, the resources available shrink by at least an order of magnitude or two, and I have not been able to achieve the same crust since!
To keep using the same packaging? I don't know. I don't care either. They're free to sell in any size box they want as far as I'm concerned, and they don't need to explain it to anyone. I buy by volume or weight. I also accept that it's natural in our economy that prices will fluctuate and don't blame it on manufacturers.
If that's what we were doing then it would be a good thing. But what companies are mostly doing is bringing over average people so that they can pay them less than Americans.
Good stuff right there!
You can look at the data, SV companies aren't paying H1B people low wages. Unless you think 200-300k is low wages.
If you are being paid 30k a 2K upgrade would be worthwhile if it resulted in a 6% increase in productivity. At 60k it would be justified by a 3% increase in productivity. Maybe your company just has no meaningful way to measure or understand what effects productivity.
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Classic "hammer and nails" reference. What problems are we inappropriately trying to solve with technology ?
If Product is editing designs, you have bigger problems than money. And there might be some causality there.
I would support that. The program is supposed to allow for filling positions unfillable in the American labor market with specialized skills, not as a way to undercut American salaries.
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For a while I wasn't sure if this was just some "talking point." Then one day, on a hiking meetup, I met a guy who was ranting about his job that was to write "oddly hyper-specific job descriptions that might seem to make no sense" to bring in cheaper h1b candidates.

So yeah, it's a problem.
> He's a hack

In the same sense of "hack" used in "Hacker News", sure, perhaps.

A pattern that's repeated itself multiple times in the history of science is mathematicians and theoretical physicists showing up in other fields and making groundbreaking discoveries that end up re-orienting the field.

It's not at all surprising that incumbents would object to the competition, fault the 'interlopers' for not working within accepted paradigms, or just not have the background to fully understand their projects in the first place.
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Wouldn't TN visas be a workaround?
Of course!! Following the logic here, if we have Masters of Science we obligatory have Slaves of Science too.
And the “B” container is cracked, indicating they’ve moved on from B to C, and there’s a spool of thread (process threads?) - lots to enjoy, but oregano is still a mystery.
Don't try too hard. Classical music is more varied in history and style than any other genre, so it cannot be considered a single kind of music. Just keep listening to different composers, different eras, to see what resonates with you. Even among professional classical musicians, there is strong preference for one period over another.

There is so much to explore between 1650 - present day, all "classical" and all entirely different.

If you want a geeky but artful introduction to Bach (the composer I dare say that really "started it all"), you could do far worse than this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched-On_Bach

If you find anything you like there, go find it in its more authentic form and just keep peeling back the layers. :)
This is a borderline criminal editorialization.
There are a few places that kind of go 'to the nines' for employees and give adequate and even overpowered workstations. I think the crowd that gets that treatment is slightly over-represented on HN.

But most businesses here are the same, you get lucky to get any nice feature over the 'same laptop that sales gets' which is barely more than a Chromebook. And getting an external monitor that's not the cheapest bulk-buy model was also pretty hard to do (I had a friend in marketing who helped me get a larger display with better colors at that place).
This article makes some good points but it fails in one respect to follow it's own premises. It starts with a nice and funny but completely useless image. This might be a pet peeve of mine but I really prefer articles that get straight to the point and start with their main argument. For good examples see the blogs of Drew DeVault, Dan Luu or Gwern.

EDIT: Ha, I should not comment without having read the article thoroughly to the end. It indeed addresses this very point:

"You are no doubt aware that this article begins with a picture. The reason I include pictures in most of my articles is in the unlikely event that an average Internet user stumbles upon one, he will be less likely to leave immediately."

Is there any hard data that the bounce rate increases if there is no image at the beginning? Are there good examples of pages where this image really ties in with and adds to the content that follows?
i don’t know how this suspension would work but the H1B is held in April. I would assume most people have had their visa processed by now but it’s possible i’m just if ignorant.

Regarding suspending H1Bs here is some not so breaking news: people on those visas are targeting jobs where no qualified people exist to fill them. Those people, by coming to the US create real value and increase the economic output of the US. They are also, in general, really smart people that fuel innovation. If you kill innovation the US is done.
I was very surprised to learn 70% of Apple engineers are H1B hires - but i don’t know if this is the case currently.

Agree that domestic training should be invested.

Edit: sorry, clarified Apple not SV as a whole - and it was a Vice Or Vox article, so I should probably know better.
The "other side" has been playing these games with school board book standards and redistricting. It's naive to think that one side's restraint will be paid back with restraint from the other side. A better tactic might be to exploit as much as you can, so the other side also calls for reforms.

The same could be said for any loophole. If you don't exploit it, that does not mean that nobody else will exploit it. You should push for the loophole to be fixed while exploiting it to show why.
You don't need a Phd or a lot of money to have a skill that an American doesn't have. Assuming that those things are 'indicators' doesn't seem to be based on anything.

The difference here is that America has a large 'labour' pool, but the roles you need filled aren't as much just clocking in and out doing some random task, but have requirements that are harder to meet and apparently aren't met by the available Americans. Assuming malice isn't very constructive and to do something about it that actually helps anything needs some backing information.

The other way around: most people don't really want to work in the USA and will only go if the money is right. This also means that the company in the USA that is trying to find someone to fill a gap in their needs might have to spend twice as much getting their problem solved. At the same time, the amount of Americans asked to work outside of the USA is rather low as there aren't that many special skilled people that aren't already available. If you check out the sources listed at the WikiPedia page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora you'll find that a lot of emigration happens for other reasons, and only a small part is related to special skills needed in emerging markets (which are markets that need a lot of skilled people but are not very attractive to a lot of people due to cultural differences or stability worries).
> Pushing for an answer on how one of my apps can have a watch keyboard, but the other cannot, they could only "discuss via phone".

What would Apple's response be if you started with "This call may be recorded"? Is recording without notice legal in any state?
You're right about the US valuing "commerce over life", but equating business with liberty is fallacious. The pandemic spreading uncontrolled has been and will continue to be disastrous for individual liberty.
It's a fascinating idea that belief in an unseen god set up the Jewish people to be more capable of thinking in abstraction and this is part of the reason why Jews are so over-represented in contributions to science.

If that's actually true, I wonder if it still holds value today. Are secular education systems sufficient for producing the same or better mindset? Are their other myths we can teach children that don't have the same cruft and dead weight of traditional religion?
Many fruits and vegetables have a waste component that nobody eats, but is necessary for the things to grow. Think banana/orange peels, carrot tops, or the vegetable placenta of a bell pepper. If you pay by unit weight for those things, and they're getting smaller, you're getting less of the edible component but still plenty of the wasted bits. You can think of it as relatively constant packaging overhead.

I can't say I've noticed any of my organic produce getting smaller though.
> reapplied thermal paste on the CPU/bridge chips twice

does it help noticeably?
Some of these make no real sense, like L1 and J1 visas, which are so few and uncommon and are often granted to individuals. J1's for example are for researchers coming abroad to collaborate with scientists here, there isn't a real argument that J1's are taking jobs from anyone else that I can tell. Not that anyone should be travelling at all this year but one would have to see if they get extended after covid dies down.

L1s also look like they're geared towards essentially overseas managers moving to the US, particularly in the case of a single international company moving their executives around physically.
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This is great news for Canadians who would like to move and work in America. A lot less competition
The number of recent layoffs make it clear that there are plenty of people perfectly capable of performing even your pretend scenario. See eg http://layoffs.fyi/ and also eng layoffs at Uber, Samsara, etc.
I got really excited about Nim 1 or 2 weeks ago and what worried me a bit is the number of questions on StackOverflow. In the "new question" section, the most recent one was from hours ago, the second one from 1 or 2 days ago, the third one from the previous week. It could just mean that the language is straightforward and the documentation perfect. But it's still a good metric to measure the popularity of a language. Also, it makes me wonder, if I need to find "how to do X", would I find an existing answer? If I need to ask a question, would someone answer?

(still excited about Nim anyway, seems like the perfect replacement for Python at my job)
You can easily achieve this by raising wage requirements, instead of essentially having nothing changed and making the whole US a big open air prison for foreign skilled workers.
Long-time pythonista here. I read this the other day and, meaning no disrespect, I think you're off-base on this but I can't quite put my finger on it.
This is vandalism. There is a political process to be followed to remove objectionable statues. Supporters of certain causes believe they can break the law with impunity, and that is dangerous. Where does it end? Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Scott Key Statues Pulled Down By Protesters In San Francisco https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/20/ulysses-s-grant-francis-s... .
Xenophobia is a bitch. A few years ago I experienced an atrial fibrillation while exercising, so I called an ambulance, as I didn't know what was happening to me and thought that that was the end.

Once in the ambulance the paramedic started asking me where I am from and if I came in on one of "those visas".

I was afraid I was about to die, and this fucker was being xenophobic.
People in Canada aren't making US salaries. Most people want to go to the US for the money.
I guess you didn't read it? It says that it shouldn't affect existing holders.
> there's a valid reason as to why it's being done (to prioritize Americans out of work)

The "Fixed pie fallacy" [1] is probably both one of the most important tenants of modern policy-making, yet it's rarely explicitly discussed or debated.

Cyclone_, your thinking relies on this fallacy, namely that if one person is working a job, that's one less job available. [2]

In reality, there is quite a bit of empirical research that indicates when people work (especially highly skilled jobs like in tech), it does not reduce (and may even increase) the jobs available to others [3].

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy
2. https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/07/opinion/lumps-of-labor.ht...
3. https://siepr.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/publications/...
Indeed, a friend offered to introduce me to a lawyer who would help me hire H-1Bs instead of similarly qualified residents. The gist was you have to figure out the unique qualities of the person you want to hire, and then construct interviews for the required X candidates such that these other candidates would not be as qualified across these trumped up unique qualifications / skills.
> why is eugenics a bad word

It's not. It's purely media manipulation over the past few years that has some people conditioned to reflexively associate "eugenic" with creeping Nazism.

Consider this, from 2005:

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2005/06/02/...

Herman and Chomsky describe this dynamic well in Manufacturing Consent.
Is this true? The argument I've seen is that H1B's are liked by SV because they can be paid less.
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The Tawainese government used to rule mainland China back when it was known as the Republic of China, before retreating to Taiwan during a civil war.

They were also the "China" entity that was the founding member of the UN. It was only a few years after the UN's founding that the Communist Party won the civil war and formed a new country (the People's Republic of China), yet it took several decades for the UN to officially recognize them as the representative of "China".

The argument to make isn't that they should have a mandate to rule mainland China, nor even that they should be mainland China's representative of the UN. But rather that they should be their own representative at the UN, and have claim to the permanent seat of the Security Council that mainland China currently holds, since it was originally theirs to begin with.

It's a nuclear strategy that'd cause all hell to break loose if that were ever attempted, but is a plausible enough argument that it could likely be forced through if enough parties truly wanted to strip China of their veto power.
Can you take some of the Bay Area homeless as well, or is it only acceptable to place economic externalities Stateside?
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Actually, they cite that behavior _exactly_:

> Still, in the end, Dworsky says that the sneakiness, and the sense that companies have a low opinion of their customers' intelligence, is what gets to him most. Over his years as a professional observer of grocery shelves, he has noticed an interesting pattern: it is common for a downsized product to come full circle. First a product drops from 16oz to 14.5oz. Then, as the years pass, maybe it goes down to 11oz. Perhaps it even drops to 8oz. Then, a 16oz size appears again. But this time, it's the super or mega size. And the cost is much, much higher than that of the original.
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That exchange sounds like he tried being happy over right and he didn't end up being happy anyways?
There are likewise concerted efforts to get white nationalist taking points on the front page and painted as reasonable in the related threads. You see new accounts and sub-500 accounts that congeal around them almost every time.
Why "even"? Why are we still pretending that Silicon Valley has the answers to everything, that tech in general is an all-purpose panacea?
When I read that I end up thinking that labor laws end up having unintended consequences. If you make it impossible to fire people, they end up being abused (I don't think that's ok, but it's absurd that we could connive a legal structure to somehow make unwanted employees appreciated).
I look at it the other way. FAANG has more than enough money to invest in domestic training.

Either way it’s a win.
You need a Visa one way or the other to stay in the US as an alien. Besides even if you weren't kicked out, how are you going to make a living without a work authorization?

Overstaying your Visa is illegal. I know ICE isn't going to knock on your door right away, but it's going to negatively affect future Visa applications (visiting also requires a Visa).
I am not exactly sure how this would help people working in tech (and other tech related areas like business analysts, PM's etc.,)

This makes it easy for companies to outsource work.

When all employees are remote what's the value in bringing someone onshore? And once jobs are outsourced I don't think they will come back.

So this could be marginally beneficial for onshore workers or it could be very bad.
Why are you a nationalist?
Had we reacted better, it's reasonable to believe that we could have contained it properly and not spent as many trillions.

The worse we let the pandemic get, the more expensive it will be.
I owned an early 2011 15" MBP with a discrete AMD Radeon GPU which had very well known serious manufacturing defects.

I didn't realize Apple had any 2011 model year Macs that used nVidia GPUs.
How does the TN circumvent in this situation legally ?
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The point is, in part, to attack tech.
Trump won the election largely by leveraging Twitter and Facebook.
I always thought cake pops were the ultimate expression of this idea about the smaller dessert.

Here is a single bite of cake.

(They sell them at Starbucks, I don't know how much of a thing they are anywhere else. Actually I just realized I see the same idea in several restaurants with fancy little desserys in shot glasses. Still $6.50 for that one or two bites though.
I hope it does.
But I wonder if a very bad economic crisis (that some say started in 2008 and we never truly recovered from) may cause a similar wave of xenophobia and civil unrest in Canada as we now see happening in the U.S. I know Canada is a very different country than the U.S and much less prone to massive civil unrest, but all and all it's not that much different than countries like UK, Germany, France etc - who are experiencing their own brand of populism and growing xenophobia now.
Yes. I've seen first hand abuse of the visas to import cheap labor in academia to avoid paying citizen-level wages.
Parent commenter's never been to the skid row of Vancouver. Land prices is the fucked thing, and they're plenty fucked in Canada, too.
70%? Do you have a citation for that? (I'm not pro/con just want to nail down the number.)
It’s part of the myth. The brand.
technically it’s illegal to pay H1B workers less than what you pay your workers.
A red square is a shop sign. Apparently there are a number of these "friendly shops" around in ZA, unfortunately they don't have website and Google Maps does not list all of them. You can also see part of the text on the building "*ville mansions". Again, Google Maps does not have this building nor Bing/OpenStreetmaps, but still it's possible that there is some sort of registry of ZA businesses which you could query to get potential addresses. It is also clearly spring on the second photo and the shadows are well defined, so you can approximate time of day (midday) and street directions (shadows point north or so). You can see that these are four way crossroads with at least one road being just two lanes wide, there are at least two buildings on the corners and along one side of the road there is a longish green zone / possibly a park. I think there is a bus stop on the road with the park as well. Not sure what are the FH markings on that yellow thingy and what's that blue square with yellow something. These might be street signs that are specific to some region/city, so just browsing random locations in ZA could turn something up.

This info wasn't enough for me to figure out the location, but it's something. If I was serious about the challenge or there was way to monetize this, I could write OpenStreetMaps / Google Street View scraper that would figure out the location in a matter of minutes.
In California, it is.
Are you telling me that the 85000 jobs this saves will go to the millions of unemployed (low skilled) workers who will learn learn to code and manage the codebase at some company?

Huh, I hadn't thought of that. Maybe they'll hire 3 or 4 of the unemployed folks to replace each h1b so that they can "group code", it might work.

Also, LOVE your logical reasoning that went from "H1-B is abused a lot" => "Ban it".
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I just read it ironically, lol
Application process starts in April but even when visa is approved and processed, the holder can’t enter before October 1.
They all eventually come back to USA after gaining a foothold in Canada. TN Visas. Majority of TN Visa users are immigrants into Canada.
I go (went?) to a very competitive STEM magnet school. We had 5 minutes of meditation at the start of class once a week. Sometimes it was nice, other times it was actively harmful. If there was a test we had to make up for lost time by staying in during lunch/passing time. Once our teacher was giving us last minute review before a test and she had to just talk over the broadcasted meditation instructions
this is a textbook example of when someone should lose their job on the spot
Don't tell the knuckle draggers still pretending that "history" has a silent-H.
Maybe the OP means the modern SV aka FAANG and that is not far from the truth or very hard to disprove. Things turned out the way they did for a lot of reasons and none of them can be really discounted.