skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The more and more I see of Zoom, the less and less I think the organization is in tune with Liberal ideals and culture. At least this is less devious than coping an absolute security stance, then turning around and giving the government the keys anyways.
There is some logic to that. Paying requires you provide something traceable to a physical identity.

I still think it’s a dumb move. Imagine if “HTTPS for pay users only” was a thing.
The original title looks like "Interracial marriage" to me, which is plenty short - so I'm not following your question.
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> Would you find it acceptable to shoot some footage of a handful of looting/arsonist incidents and proclaiming “protesters are doing X”, just like we are complaining that “police” are doing X?

It's very easy to attribute actions to the police, since they very commonly wear easy-to-identify uniforms and it's illegal to impersonate them. The video above was of a uniformed police officer in the company of maybe a hundred others. It's the literal job of police to stop crimes, so if you see an officer commuting a crime and his colleagues see and don't intervene, you can assume some level of assent to the officer's criminal activity.

Even if you found a video of a looter/arsonist, how do you know they're a protester at all? If they are a protester, how do you establish what their faction is (BLM, anarchist anti-capitalist, Neo-nazi agitator, etc.)? How do you judge the attitudes of the other protesters to to their actions, given protesters aren't equipped to enforce the law and don't have the mandate to do so?
We're a Gsuite shop, so we've been using Meet since before WFH.

It's fine, not great, but the connection seems stable and we have not experienced issues with conferences. Zoom is all that plus much more intuitive and easier to use. The entire Zoom experience is great from start to finish, built in background replacement is a really big draw along with the full tile layout (Meet got tiles two weeks ago).

I would also say that Discord video has been great too. It's only downside is that you can only be in a session on one device. That is an extremely annoying limitation as I prefer to be mobile on my phone headset and present or stream on the computer.
Emailed. No answer. Now shadowbanned... seriously?
MLK: "I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard."
Secure by default is no longer a staple of communication apps?

I thought we established that standard. Oh well, ride your wave Zoom, don’t get mad when the inevitable funded competitors start showing up with security as a default.
I think the term in English is "Moral Rights" (Urheberpersönlichkeitsrecht in German but for some weird reason they're apparently different)
So it's official then, huh? It's worth $20/month to keep the FBI out of your shit?

Do they _really_ think terrorists, counterintellegence agents, or criminal organisations can't afford $20/month???
I donate to wikipedia. They need to pay for electricity, servers, etc as well.
Tell me about it, this was my first real boardgame.

In a group with engineers and lawyers, it was bad enough that each session started with "what will we get wrong this time"
No:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-finds-no-evidence-of-antif...
I would guess pretty much all the DBMS vendors in the early 1990s had people looking at VMs and were mentally prepared for Java when it arrived.

In addition to other advantages DBMS designers were looking for better ways to compile queries into executable representations (aka bytecode). That path still exists but I think the tendency now is to harness tools like LLVM and do JIT compilation.
I don't know, maybe he's wrong about them being leaders. I'm happy to read more information about this; I just don't have more info unfortunately. Does it really matter if they're leaders or not though? It's not like it doesn't count if the situation improves without the leaders being involved, or without us knowing what their names might be.
It makes total sense. However, the looting being justified by some is totally inane in my opinion. How does robbing Jordans bring back dead folk? Especially when Jordans themselves are from Nike who partners with many black athletes.. And the protests have now become cover, consuming police resources while the looters destroy cities with fire, theft, violence, and chaos. The looters are just opportunistic vultures - they literally cleaned out all of SoHo and 34st street in NYC, ran over and shot cops, set fire to tons of buildings, even residences. They bring nothing but disdain for black folk..considering like you said..the demographic of the looters is mostly black.

It doesn't make sense to protest any more, in person, if you are helping looters destroy your local economy in an already bad recession by occupying an already taxed and outnumbered police force.
Aside from the PR fiasco, this is bad for their paying users.

I can’t verify that Zoom actually encrypts my calls, I have to trust that they’re telling the truth. When I find out that they’re willing to turn off encryption for some calls to make spying on their users easier, the idea of holding business meetings on their platform becomes unpalatable.
Dude, you've justified torching a residential building in another thread. I think you should sit this one out, for your own good.
I spend less running a Jitsi Meet cloud server than a single Zoom host account... 2 party e2e is still only experimental in Jitsi, but its coming.
IIRC we're talking about the initial report. Later on, they backtracked, but their original report was patently flawed. Given the direction and obviousness of the flaws, one must question whether the flaws were only due to haste.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21627676

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21368961

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17002125

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16134205

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16397133

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17197581

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19912334

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20202305

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20438487

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20645202

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21325122

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21461976

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21585284

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20742578

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21907232

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22775601

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23306323

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23323431

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23351311

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23342402

Don't like these "HN is a leftist SJW cesspool hellhole" comments? I got others.
I think that's because people emit all the time, without quite realizing that, "magnetic waves" and emotions are the way we "observe" these waves. The strength of these waves is remarkable that even in my deep suburbia I can feel them. It seems the nation is rapidly finding its resonance mode.
I will be surprised if Microsoft or Goolge encrypt their video calls that LE cannot access them either.
Right. I think your arguing my point. The correct way is to understand what the different levels are for each cohort & provide guidance based around your risk factors. We don't know though what that looks like so everyone is stumbling around in the dark. Picking 1 number to recommend nationally/globally is just silly as you point out. Too many factors.
You want to hash out a bad business plan - do it on our paid version of a product. Gotta spend money to burn money.
To clarify, are you referring to the american jargon for the left wing or contemporary liberalism?

Edit: downvoted on clarification is certainly a new experience.
If only that were true. Seen a fair share of IE only, Edge only, FF only and Safari only bugs :-o
yeap, this is a good point. This is the first time i see a rewrite to "older".
Older architecture, older language, older methodology. And the only part that serm to not have met expectation are the ones using new stuffs ( graphql and maybe typescript).

Maybe there's a rule here : complete rewrite is ok if you're rewriting to "older" tech.
Welcome to the era of MS-DOS A000:0000 direct video ram drawing frameworks. And all sorts of tricks of that time using Borland Pascal and Turbo C.
Like what Minneapolis was experiencing before the National Guard came in?
No, you are missing the point.

The "flip" everyone is talking about isn't voting patterns, it is on policy.

The question was "The Democratic Party used to be the party of the south/segregation. What year (or decade) is the point where the two parties flipped places on this issue?"

The policy changed happened in 1964 with the Republican Goldwater campaign:

In the 1964 presidential election, Goldwater ran a conservative campaign that broadly opposed strong action by the federal government. Although he had supported all previous federal civil rights legislation, Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act and championed this opposition during the campaign. He believed that this act was an intrusion of the federal government into the affairs of state; and second, that the Act interfered with the rights of private persons to do business, or not, with whomever they chose, even if the choice is based on racial discrimination.

Goldwater's position appealed to white Southern Democrats and Goldwater was the first Republican presidential candidate since Reconstruction to win the electoral votes of the Deep South states (Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina). Outside the South, Goldwater's negative vote on the Civil Rights Act proved devastating to his campaign. The only other state he won was his home one of Arizona and he suffered a landslide defeat. A Lyndon B. Johnson ad called "Confessions of a Republican", which ran in Northern and Western states, associated Goldwater with the Ku Klux Klan. At the same time, Johnson's campaign in the Deep South publicized Goldwater's support for pre-1964 civil rights legislation.[1]

Prior to that the Republican party was mostly supportive of the Civil Rights Act, and afterwards it wasn't. The opposite was true in the Democratic party.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
> Because the entire tone of your original post was written in a way to imply that the OP hadn't done the due diligence.

You have a problem. The lenses you are wearing make everything look negative.

> It's quite straightforward

In my mind, this was a statement assuring him that it is not complicated; Windows settings can sometimes be complicated, such as involving Registry hacks.
When you pay for something, you are very traceable, its a big difference.
I saw it as it unfolded while I watched YT and Twitter in disbelief. I’ll try to find it but I lost it in a flurry of tabs.
I get a lot what you're saying regarding the police. I think there's a lot that needs to change, and the mental health of our police needs to be included. Not only are they probably working insane hours, in lots of stress, but it's quite evident lots of them have become completely desensitized from violence. You don't come out of the womb being okay with hitting people that are not a threat.

That said: it's increasingly evident that they're very poorly trained. You see the same strongman tactics in every city. They gang up on a single person, sometimes 4 or 5 of them, all hitting, all kicking, and continue to do this once you're on the ground. If you've ever watched Live PD, you see a ton of this same behavior, all the time, all across the country.

At the same time, there are some really bad cops out there (and the cynic in me tells me they're more common than we're lead on to believe), and also lots that just don't have the mental fortitude to do the work, but are still doing it anyway. Those people need to be weeded out, and we need to better equip them with tools that are not weapons.
>wikipedia
The cost is haveing an EXTREM leftist slant on all articles.
I guess, PM of India.
The solution is public peer to peer platforms and protocols.
Black phosphorus could spur the next wave of tiny transistors (2015)
The most valuable possession people have is time and attention. Producing works of knowledge and culture involves people giving up their time and attention to produce something. If they have done so, they deserve to have ownership of it.

As Abraham Lincoln said
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That is their argument, and this argument of the Judge is the same old serpent that says you work and I eat, you toil and I will enjoy the fruits of it. “

Whenever, you appropriate for yourself the fruits of other people’s toil, you are sowing seeds of tyranny.
This was really interesting, thanks for linking it.

When he puts it in the context of their typical abuse pattern - anonymous emails, VPNs, and just a few meetings - this decision makes much more sense.

I hope they expand on their thought process in a blog post at some point, I'd love to read more.
Someone else is paying for that, because very little happens for free.
Video clips of events in US over past few days
> And there are no more "checks and balances" because POTUS stacks the SCOTUS, and POTUS and SOTUS work hand-in-glove. The last remaining hold-out is HOROTUS, but that can flip any session.

Some time in the past, certainly at FDR’s time, dems were confident about stacking the court. What changed to defang them? The dem’s actions while Merrick Garland was denied hearings infuriate me until today: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/06/04/senate-obst...
if you're building a point of sale for $1000 flat, keep at it

if you're building a notifier for recent job postings for $9/month, stop
Bye bye Zoom.
While coming to the table is important and I think reacting thoughtfully to this is important, I think it's important to note that these incidents of police brutality are being documented a lot more due to the current events and scale but these are far from isolated to these protests. It's simply much easier to avoid being recorded in day to day life while everyone has their cameras out for these.

As far as rational, controlled, and motivated anger goes, what day these events happen on should not stand in the way. This needs to be harnessed to enact massive structural change of course, not online flame wars or unproductive methods of protest. Still, that very anger you see is also able to be used to motivate many people to add in ways they may not have before. White people are starting to understand that they can be used as literal shields [1] against police brutality, and that should not be lost in this. There is much to be gained in a positive way from this anger.

I do appreciate your general sentiment here, I just wanted to underscore that the anger here, particularly that felt by POC, has deep roots beyond these incidents and can be used positively. I think that caveat is where we agree - how to harness that anger.

[1] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZJ5P_gWAAADwpQ.jpg https://twitter.com/michellebhasin/status/126747635543387750...
No conspiracy, just mobs being terrible and resharing the most salacious clips without regard for the truth, which is what mobs do, like the mob that lynched the truck driver who got trapped on an Interstate that was overrun by protestors. He was rescued by sane people among the mob, but not before he was beaten to a pulp and robbed of all his personal effects.

https://www.twincities.com/2020/06/01/truck-driver-on-minnea...
You're describing a good experience. Try calling a restaurant where they barely speak any English. Or one that's busy and you and the other person can't hear each other over the loud noise.
There are no longitudinal studies, because it is very difficult to find a sample of repeatedly tear-gassed subjects over relatively long timeframes. Hong Kong is a good example though, where estimates are that ~90% of the population have been exposed. In Hong Kong, long-term exposure has been connected with rashes, respiratory problems and chloracne.
I mean the historical concept. In a way, I think Zoom's organization is somewhat more in touch with the left wing and youth culture. I have a real distaste for how Zoom (the software) does things for you, as if it knows better.
It just lead to keybase's death.
Ask HN: Do you get a blank LinkedIn feed when the browser tab isn't focused?
Steps: type https://www.linkedin.com/feed/ on a browser tab; hit enter and immediately switch to the next (or previous) browser tab; wait a few seconds; come back to the tab. Do you see an empty feed?

When doing this, I see a couple JS errors on the console. They don't appear when the tab is on focus. Must be some horrible logic in a piece of tracking code. I feel a certain morbid curiosity to find the root cause, but don't have the time to debug it atm.

Anyone noticed that and debugged/patched already?
I like the explanation and seems fair trade off to me for complying with laws. Meanwhile, I think Zoom sucks big time with their PR team unlike Google, Microsoft, due to which they are being pushed again and again on privacy issues.
I never thought of CAFE as a hex word. I always knew about DEADBEEF and so on.

Now I feel that there should be a website that lists all kinds of fun hex words.

Like CAFEFACE
> narrow definitions

Like distinguishing between "plausible" and "not technically impossible"? If "plausible" now refers to anything not ruled out by the laws of physics, with no reference to likelihood, then anyone can make wild, unfounded accusations and say they're "plausible."

> define your opinion ("they would not have found it interesting")

It's not my opinion. Look at the scientific literature on SARS-related coronaviruses from before 2020. What viruses did the Wuhan Institute of Virology publish on?

> ad homen attacks ("You should learn something about the subject...")

I'm annoyed by people who have no idea what they're talking about boosting this conspiracy theory. This is an important enough subject that before making these sorts of wild accusations, you should actually understand something about the field.
He was winning, the war machine was rolling and fresh contracts signed, in blood.
If a large enough share of your income is returns on capital to both meet your expenses and increase the store of capital, or you have a sufficient store of capital that depleting with your expenses would take lifetimes even though it isn't growing after expenses, you can plausibly held to be in the haut bourgeoisie, the elite of capitalist society. If you are an intellectual worker with a modest amount of stock held through a retirement fund, your probably between the proletarian intelligentsia (in the working class, if among the better working conditions and higher pay of that class) and the petit bourgeoisie (the capitalist middle class), but not at all elite.
Current encryption imementations (AES GCM) will not be downgraded. Meetings will still be encrypted and meeting content is still not going to be used for tracking users.

E2E will be an opt in choice for paying users who are willing to sacrifice some features for the benefits from additional security.

See this thread for more details: https://twitter.com/alexstamos/status/1268061790954385408

Edit to credit vjeux for the thread link
Why? I really enjoy using Clojure, and the community is vibrant.
>Lots of people would answer no. Lots of people would answer that not only do they not actively support Black Lives Matter, they actively oppose BLM.

Cite some examples.
Discussions about Smalltalk almost always remind me of Self[0] from Sun. It is an extremely simple prototype-based programming language. An object can have many "parents", and defines properties on itself to expose an interface. It's really fun to mess around with. The Morphic UI is kind of archaic though.

[0]: https://selflanguage.org/
The national guard is backing up the police. The police presence there was long before they came in. So yes, like Minneapolis. If the initial police response was different we could see a vastly different landscape of protests currently, but that set the tone and virtually no departments have been effective or even been trying to deescalate it seems.
Why so dramatic? I understand the will to use zoom for free, but why should they care much for someone not paying? Video conferencing is still mostly not p2p, which means they are giving away a lot of bandwidth for free to a lot of people. If you have extra requirements, why not pay?

The acquisitions and hires they have made has made sense if what they are aiming for is making a more secure and private service. I don't doubt their intention. What I don't understand is why people expect them to provide all benefits for free.

Edit: does any service to multi-party e2e conferencing? What trade-offs are there?
One aspect of this that doesn't seem to be getting much attention is the law of unintended consequences. It's easy to contribute other people's money to an inarguably noble cause, but I wonder how many of the authors of the budget that set aside these funds appreciated that their great great great great great grandchildren, many of them _descendants of slaves_, would be paying for this benefit?
Buteyko Method
The free part certainly helped adoption over time, but at the time Java first arrived everyone was conditioned to pay for IDEs and most compilers for that matter. Java took off because of the reasons I cited up-thread rather than cost. It was initially marketed as a language for web browsers. Most of us just ignored that use case and put it to work in enterprise apps.
There's not much difference between Go and the JVM, except one is compiled just in time and the other ahead of time. There's also been a few ahead of time compilers for Java over the years, with substrateVM being the latest one for example.

From https://golang.org/doc/faq they say:

> Go does have an extensive library, called the runtime, that is part of every Go program. The runtime library implements garbage collection, concurrency, stack management, and other critical features of the Go language

I think people can argue all they want about semantics, what is a virtual machine? There are not "proper definition" for this. Ultimately, if you abstract away the details of the running environment, to me, you've created a virtual machine.

The Go FAQ continues by insinuating it isn't a virtual machine because it doesn't do just in time compilation and only ahead of time. I think that's just word play.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine says:

> A process VM, sometimes called an application virtual machine, or Managed Runtime Environment (MRE), runs as a normal application inside a host OS and supports a single process. It is created when that process is started and destroyed when it exits. Its purpose is to provide a platform-independent programming environment that abstracts away details of the underlying hardware or operating system and allows a program to execute in the same way on any platform.

Personally, I think "Managed Runtime Environment" is a better term, and Go would definitely fall into that term.

So I recognize the difference are real. Just in time Vs ahead of time. But it isn't docker, or any other layer of virtualization which magically allow Go to run over many machines. Its because it has an extensive runtime that abstracts away their details. And this runtime has to be bundled in every compiled application. Maybe we should start talking about virtual runtimes?
How GDPR applies to random numbers uploaded to a server?
Do I have any way to verify this as a user?
It's well known that some people in society are crazy, so an occasional video of someone acting crazy doesn't really mean much. Police though need to be held to a higher standard. So a video of police doing something bad is much more impactful. And this isn't just a police officer doing something all alone, there are a ton of officers surrounding him and not stopping him.