skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Actually it's been pretty conclusively shown that removing extremist content from mainstream channels pretty much prevents the ideas from propagating in the mainstream.

Actually, no it hasn't. And for anyone that holds such a viewpoint, I'd strongly suggest reading J. S. Mill's classic, On Liberty[1] -- a foundational document of Western political thought.

[1] https://www.gutenberg.org/files/34901/34901-h/34901-h.htm
It's not censorship by any means; YouTube isn't the government. David Icke and his ilk should feel free to take their lunatic fringe theories to the lunatic fringe corners of the Internet like Breitbart etc. They won't be "censored" there.
Facebook would be #1 in online advertising and we'd be using Bing on our Windows Phones.
>current

Data is from 2017. Single largest non-petro export being aluminum, at 0.51%.
that's fun! seeing the game of thrones one made me sad i'm rewatching the show now and the first two seasons are so damn good. can't wait to re-experience the rest
Didn't OS X do this with some CLIs, you'd type a command and got prompted to download Xcode..
It's not a binary. The more places extremists can find like-minded people, the more their worldview is normalized and validated. The fewer places, the higher the probability that they realize (or be continuously confronted by) how far out their views are, and the less extremist a position they'll end up taking.

I genuinely don't think universal free speech is the answer, because people aren't confronted with the counterargument until they seek it out. If you could guarantee that argument, it would be much safer. But I don't think it's possible with today's media; people exist in a bubble of both their own choosing and algorithmic choosing, and aren't challenged.
First, watching youtube is great for learning things.

A possibly different perspective. Do things, don't study. Only study if and up to the minimum that you need to accomplish the thing you are doing right now.

I don't study. I don't worry about it. I just learn things I either am passionate about so can't help but study or for my work (including personal work); the thing I need to learn to accomplish my immediate task.

I guess I'm saying don't bother learning things you aren't passionate about or you don't need right now.

And only study the thing you most need right now (makes it easy to know what to study next).
>[…] a very thin line around Provider vs Publisher.

Nope. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/no-section-230-does-no...
> [...] relies on libc way too much. That might be fine on Linux [...]

> My understanding is that Go doesn’t use the libc at all and makes system calls directly

Actually, the only system on which it's fine to "not use the libc at all and make system calls directly" is Linux. On MacOS, Windows, and most non-Linux Unix-like systems, you must to go through the libc or its equivalent (which on Windows is kernel32.dll and/or ntdll.dll), since the system call interface is unstable (the libc or its equivalent is distributed together with the kernel, so it's updated whenever the system call interface changes).

AFAIK, Go tried for a while to use system calls directly on MacOS; after being broken several times by operating system updates, they gave up and now go through the shared libraries like everyone else. They still insist on using direct system calls on Linux, where it works mostly fine (except for things like the DNS resolver, in which AFAIK they try to guess whether they can do directly network DNS requests, or have to go through libc; and that one time in which Go's small stacks conflicted with a misoptimized kernel VDSO using too much stack).
I don't think anyone is arguing about the damage of propaganda here. The discussion here is more-or-less Youtube choosing which propaganda it wishes people to see.

To use your idea here - the cognitive biases being exploited are being exploited by youtube itself. In this example, Icke is a relatively divisive character even on the right wing. So it becomes important to ask - of the controversial figures that remain (on both sides) what cognitive biases is Google/Youtube aiming to exploit by allowing them to continue?
"Don't let the troll drag you into this" - Well, hello Mr. Polite. Are you that secret admirer who downvotes my posts in batches disregarding of the subject? I did notice the pattern.
Freedom of speech is quite different from freedom of the press.

You can say what you want, but I don't have to print what you say if I own a newspaper.

That being said, if Youtube and such are now going to start curating content (by pushing "recommended" content and by removing content), we may need to revisit those particular platforms' classification under Section 230 of the DCMA.
Moving inventory on the existing ferry service and selling it at a profit?
Python Resource Limitation
The technology problem is at the fax machine end.

Fax machines have embedded modems which decode and respond with a complex set of tones to transmit and receive data that makes up the facsimile image (yup, it's all images to the fax and that's why they still use them).

Smartphones are all digital so you need a gateway to convert digital signals to suitable analog tones to satisfy the fax machine's modem. Conceptually you could implement the gateway functionality as an app because we can still transmit and receive tones, i.e. voice calls. Quantisation and delays might still introduce errors, but the fax protocol does have some basic error checking and re-transmit capabilities.
> if you're not in favor of removal, then what? This content can't be allowed to stand as-is.

have youtube put on a warning saying that this content is misinformation/wrong. But not censored because censoring "wrong" content just gives those who blindly believe it to feel that they're being targeted - it doesn't change their mind.

Censoring it is just promoting it to other underground channels that are more difficult to censor.
I very strongly feel that we should be very careful to avoid adopting a legalistic attitude towards freedom of speech. That is, I am opposed to the argument that private corporations are not bound by the first amendment, and therefore it's okay for them to suppress content. I agree that they're not bound by the first amendment (I don't claim to understand the nuances of the "platform" laws so I won't address that), but that's different from saying that we as a society should want our private platforms to engage in such censorship and suppression.

Booting people off of platforms merely reinforces their pre-existing beliefs, and further radicalizes them.

COVID-19 has added the additional element of this new concept of "disinformation". The argument is seductively simple: "being exposed to this information could lead you to engage in patterns of behavior that harm society. Therefore we can conceptualize this speech as being an indirect form of violence/negligence and therefore we have a moral obligation to remove such content".

Many may disagree, but I think we need to throw out this concept of "disinformation" entirely. I don't believe in fighting "bad ideas" by suppressing them, I believe in shining a light on them. Let the truth fight for itself. (And of course now comes the classic counter-argument: that the evils of disinformation possess a virality that makes them spread far more easily than the truth, being that truth is nuanced and difficult to acquire whereas bad information is seductively simple. I won't address that argument here but personally I think it's a very dangerous way of thinking)
> right wing conspiracy theorist nutjobs

This kind of language is not acceptable in this platform.

> have no place at the table for rational discussion

David Icke is a citizen of the United States. His speech, rational or not, is free. YouTube is a company founded and operated within the United States. I argue that his rights to speak however he damn well pleases should not be infringed on a "platform". If YouTube wishes to be considered something other than a platform (a publisher!), then they can promote/limit whatever they please. As of now, they continue to insist they are a "platform" and are therefore not responsible for what is posted (unless it displeases the advertisers).

Discussion of irrational speech is how Marxism and other broken ideologies are seen for what they are.

Rather than tell the man to disappear, why not address what he says using the "rational discussion" you mentioned? That's exactly why we have rational discussion.
This is interesting! To clarify: in the first two weeks, you don't allow yourself to work on the idea (eg start writing code), but you do allow yourself to research the idea. And you find that the initial research phase usually turns up compelling reasons not to undertake the project after all. Is this right?

How do you prevent the research phase of a new idea from distracting you from your current project?
Or we can look at modern evidence, not centuries old political philosophy.
We could not tie hosting and media discovery and ad sales all together. No “social” crap or “you might also like” bubble-prompting algos on the site hosting the video and also selling the ads. That’d be a good start.

Same as “it sure sucks that Facebook has to abuse low-paid workers with gore porn but what else can we do?” I mean. We could not? Allow sites that require doing that to exist? Just a thought.

[edit] my point is that we look at these problems through a very narrow lens that excludes solutions that serious harm the profits of Internet giants. I think that’s silly. If their business model causes awful things maybe it shouldn’t be possible to have that business model.
You make the mistake of presuming that these human beings are all cockroaches. That's pure arrogance. It's not all 5G Holocaust deniers you're turning away.

You think this is better or worse for a country that is sharply and almost exactly evenly polarized across party lines?
As everyone knows, nobody propagated strange conspiracy theories before the invention of YouTube and Twitter.
YouTube is a de facto public utility at this point. IMO if they want it to be a closed ecosystem, they should not allow public access the way they currently do. There's no good alternative to YouTube (yet) but I hope there is some day.

Pushing people to the fringes just breeds more hatred, outrage, misinformation, and extremists.

Imagine if there was just one phone company and they only let people who they agree with have phones.
Is it just me or the logic in #3 is deeply flawed? I mean who of the author’s heroes knew in advance what their companies were going to become (and thus how “special” they were)?
Do you think there is even a chance that a prominent Democrat governor in a prominently Democrat state might be exaggerating for the sake of making the other party look bad?

I mean I can't help but think back to the Puerto Rico days when the Democrats were complaining about a complete lack of aid, meanwhile there were warehouses filled with aid and photos of aid already on site.
I don't believe slippery slope applies in this situation. For the most part Youtube has been fairly lenient as to which accounts get heavily moderated and/or removed. I may revise my opinion if it is ever shown that they become more aggressively restrictive to what is hosted on their platform - but for the most part you seem to be given a wide berth to upload what you wish.

The worst I've seen so far is that their video promotion algorithm can be used to "shadow ban".. but I personally believe they have every right to decide how their internal advertisements work.

There is also still the free and open internet as a general platform. Torrents and direct downloads are available as a distribution method if there is truly no other platform willing to host your media.
Anyone have any resources on electronics and electronic design? This was a great piece, but I'd like to have deeper knowledge in the field.
is racism equivalent to fat shaming now?
What's Mill's position on filter bubbles?
C'mon now, for years the largest source of foreign oil going into the US was from Canada. Even today, Canadian oil accounts for 40% of imports, with the KSA a distant 11% [1]. The whole energy independence as a form of security through reduced financing of questionable governments thing was a red herring, even if you're worried about the northern border.

Imports remain around 7 million barrels of oil per day, down from a high of 9. What's shot up is exports. Oil imports into the US haven't changed much.

The US continues to "need" to import just as much oil as they always have from the KSA. [2] Even Canada imports from the KSA, for a lot of reasons [3].

Keep in mind, too, the largest supply of oil in the world is under Venezuela, with 18% of the global supply.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_in_the_United_States

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_in_the_United_States...

[3] https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-has-canada-spent-bi...
the Windows Store is the official way to install Python on windows.

https://docs.python.org/3.7/using/windows.html#windows-store

Original Blog post from last year

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/python/python-in-the-windows-...
I moved to a paid email provider two years ago and keep local backups. At this point the only Google service I'd be remiss to lose is my list of Youtube subscribed channels. I never really got into the ecosystem. I've been wanting to try Google Calendar but I could never stick to it.
> Hell, we even have preliminary human studies dealing with just that: clinical outcome for patients admitted in intensive care unit, with or without a single mega-dose of vitamin D: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4939707/

Thank you, this is what I was looking for! Great outcome.

The other three papers you cite are also all correlations of Vitamin D with inflammatory factors, not with disease outcomes. I must have missed the study that looks specifically at cytokine storms as a dependent variable. Could you point it out to me?
Isn't the heavy-handed approach part of the charm? I can appreciate the bluntness without having to compare it to other media, although I agree with you.
Sounds familiar, but Xcode does actually provide a bunch of CLI tools...
They attempted, but they generally didn't have multi-billion-dollar corporations helping them spread their message.

And that's ok. They don't need that today either.
> censoring "wrong" content just gives those who blindly believe it to feel that they're being targeted - it doesn't change their mind.

And having warnings slapped on it doesn't?
Due to the GDPR (most regional regulators do not consider normal fax to be secure, and of course it creates otherwise unnecessary paper copies of data) medical systems in Europe are being slowly weaned off it. I gather a lot of doctors are putting up a fight.
@m0zg if you could comment on the issue you quoted with any details, it would be really helpful to us. Unlike what is reported in the github issue, `permute` isn't the regression.

For reference, one of the core devs added more details based on where we are with our investigation: https://github.com/pytorch/pytorch/issues/37142#issuecomment...
LinkedIn has constantly amazed me as far as how little they have done with their main asset, the professional social graph. That they don't offer paid products for hosted professional associations, or verified credentials, a CRM, or even intra-organization communication fascinates me. There are so many other examples of how you could make money with what they have, not even counting creepy ones.
Yep, it's real. Nice one, MS. :eyeroll:

Directory of C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps

01/15/2020 04:23 PM 0 python.exe
1 File(s) 0 bytes

Directory of C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps\Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_8wekyb3d8bbwe

01/15/2020 04:23 PM 0 python.exe
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This absolutism is unnecessary. Plenty of modern democratic countries have limits on acceptable speech (France, Sweden to give you a couple examples) and they are not less democratic than the US (I would argue they are more).

Limiting speech within agreed boundaries is not problematic as long as it's a decision taken with a good criteria and with a good goal in mind. It's no different than any other decision we make on how we setup society.
Problem solved! Yay another person that thinks if something doesn't fix the issue 100% then it can't be considered.

This is taking away their access to a platform that has global reach. They already had platforms where they didn't engage in debate, btw; they're called youtube channels with heavily-moderated chat sections. Except there they can reach millions of people.
A service used by literally billions of people is a propaganda machine for those that control it. It is not a private platform anymore. Youtube can influence public opinion in one way or another by simply manipulating their ranking algorithm. I know it's probably hard to choke down, but YouTube can swing elections and change policy with a click of a button. There are significant regulations on television. We can apply these same regulations to YouTube.

It would be extremely naive to not believe that YouTube not only knows they have this level of control, but are actively seeking to exploit it. Assuming they are a rational actor this is precisely what they would be doing.

EDIT:

What I am saying is simply this: if their aim is to remove controversial characters then remove all of them. If they selectively ban controversial characters that identify with only one side of the horseshoe, then they are manipulating public opinion.
Is the greatest time to hire software engineers since the dot com bubble burst
I'd be careful with dismissing the giants whose shoulders we straddle. If it weren't for the Magna Carta, the French and American Revolutions, and the Declaration of Independence, most of us would still be living under despotic rule.
So what? Some Linux distros will suggest installing a missing program if you run it via terminal and it's not installed.
D.Tube – Resistant to Censorship
Kojima makes (or wants to make) movies that are interactive, rather than actual games.

Which is good, cinema would be way less popular if more talented people worked in the videogame industry and would likely be regarded as the medium for all kinds of art. Specially now with VR.

Death Stranding in particular is very lackluster gameplay wise.
> Do you have decent examples of it failing to work?

Poettering:

> Note that in some cases it might be a good thing to kill screen sessions when the user otherwise logs out […]

* https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2011-Ju...
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It really doesn't though. I run a pretty big social platform based on 'free speech', every time a site like Youtube or Facebook goes on a purge like this our membership increases and we make bank.
It isn't a 56kHz channel. It is a 56k bps channel encoded as complex tones onto a 4kHz voice connection. The telephone system wiring does not have the bandwidth to carry a signal that is 2-3x the range of human hearing.
Scientists find life in dead brain cells
I haven’t stopped thinking about this since the American missionary was killed by the uncontacted Sentinelese people. What if Earth is the uncontacted & protected community of the galaxy?
It has worked well in every fascist/despotic state that has implemented it.

Free speech, even outright lies, racism, etc. must necessarily exist in the public forum if a society is to remain free.

For now, the silencing is "friendly" in that it only destroys livelihoods. If we allow it to become a norm then how long will it take a populous - now so used to being silenced - to agree to let the government silence the "other"?

Once there is a "party" line, as in China, only suffering follows.
Hi, I’m the founder of Summit. Honored to be included among great and smart company.

Happy to connect anytime to talk financial planning or support usage of the product.

Long-time HN’er, had the idea for Summit while fundraising for my first startup (Stormpulse, recently acquired).

For the forecasting geeks and curious: this video lays out the tech behind Summit’s forecasting engine (password: everest3): https://usesummit.wistia.com/medias/fd3pk1fuvz
Nobody in Canada can legally call themselves engineers unless they hold an Engineering degree.
I remember in an old job we didn’t have a fax machine... Until we started opening a US office, because apparently it’s pretty much mandatory there.
Really? That seems to be the "official" Microsoft way of installing Python3. For those who'd rather go straight to the source (should be everyone), try this, instead:

https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.8.2/python-3.8.2.exe
> and it's not installed.

is the key difference here, as the submitted tweets clearly point out.
Anyone worth their salt knows the idea is a necessary condition, but not a satisfactory one. The execution is typically the largest part of finding success, and along the journey the idea often feels like it fades in to the background and starts to seem obvious rather than novel, but of course the idea matters.
pro Horizon:

- library management that makes sense (though is a bit more complex than KiCad's)

- clean and modern UI

- fast-paced development (if there's a suggestion, that makes sense to me, I'll implement it)

pro KiCad:

- large library of parts

- has been around for a long time, so for every problem you may encounter, there's likely a forum post or so that describes a solution/workaround

- larger community
What's wrong with YouTube and Facebook exercising a bit of "benevolent despotism"?
My friend group were joking about it before we knew it was an actual conspiracy theory. This stuff is extremely predictable - Anti-5g, Anti-vaxx, Anti-whatever people will claim that everything bad is caused by the thing they're worried about - it was inevitable for the two to get linked imo.
It's "easy" to do this, but it's also just as "easy" for your service to fall over when you do it wrong. Capacity planning and performance engineering is a lost art in a world where you would simply throw money at the problem until it went away.
Well, they still have the right to say it.

Does not mean they have the right to a media platform.

I doubt Voltaire or whoever smarter than you said that meant to imply that their intellectual adversary had any /right/ to be published.
DIY Airplay/Spotify/Podcast – Multi Room Audio Setup
Don’t forget France
> Sane distros will change the default.

And sane developers don't break multi-decade behaviour in the first place.
> the opportunity to drive trucks through and over the holes in the reasoning and teach people something through a "Stuff David Icke Says" parody channel is snuffed.

I wish reasoning worked. I know people who follow nut jobs like Icke, are anti-vaxxer, think COVID is 'just a cold', etc... and no amount of reasoning or data will change their minds.
It can be argued that this it is part of the American political character because our origin story was shaped by the combination of disparate states, as in, we could have easily had colonies that sided with the British.

It got cemented due to Slavery as we basically carved up the country between slaves states and free states, and ultimately fought a civil war to deal with this bifurcation.

It’s been our long history, it defined us.

Edit: Whoops, I did the American thing again and forgot there are other countries in the Americas.
Just be aware that it's a double edged sword. Mass acceptance of censorship makes it easy to stifle societal progress by designating ideas which you disagree with as extremist content. We are lucky that the people currently at the helm of tech industry happen to hold mostly liberal views that we broadly agree with. If that was not the case, the same argument could have been used by them to suppress many left-wing/progressive ideas that you may hold dear.
Good on this analysis for looking at the cost of living subtracted from the salary, instead of just the ratio between the two. I don't know why this calculation isn't more commonplace.