skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Costs always matter. It’s rarely said in polite company but it’s true.

I suppose it’s impossible to know if we’re striking the right balance at the moment, but it’ll be interesting to see the analysis after it’s over.
It is all nonsense until money is involved and customers want to know that the advertised website actually belongs to your legal entity.
I actually dedicated much of my comment to addressing that, specifically pointing out that COVID represents a lifetime risk that's been front-loaded and so it's fair to compare COVID's infection fatality rate to your lifetime risk of dying in a car accident. I also called out explicitly that COVID has been front-loaded.

Also, it's not a fair comparison between the flu and COVID because the flu has that unfortunate feature known as horizontal gene transfer. That's why you can get re-infected by the flu each year, and why in spite of a massive vaccination campaign the flu causes 45,000,000 illnesses each year in the US alone (and 60,000 deaths) -- and 650,000 deaths worldwide.

Each year. And each upcoming year. COVID will, based on what we know so far, happen once.
> Why is it tied to time, instead of deliverables?

Once you make a deliverable the metric, work interaction and innovation suffers.

Say Bob finishes assigned Task-A in six hours. However Alice is struggling with her Task-B and could do with some of Bob's Java expertise. But in a deliverable-driven environment, Bob's done and clocks out. See ya Alice!

Or Alice is waiting for an informal reply from Trent, but Trent's reply is not a manager-assigned deliverable so he doesn't bother responding. He wants to press ahead and get Task-C finished so that he can clock out.

Instead of focusing on deliverables, most employers therefore focus on 'time dwelling' in the hope that people will interact and share the work burden.
The most sorely lacking in self-awareness aspect of his post is that a16z is a primary driver of a flavour economic (and social) neoliberalism that is a 'root cause' of almost everything he lamented.

1) If non-college educated kids had a legit path into the market (like they do in Germany) then surpluses would be more evenly distributed and housing wouldn't be such a problem.

But they don't have path because a) industry won't train and b) the US is an economically liberal place - there is no communitarian impetus (like Japan/Germany) to structure. The US doesn't really care that much about citizen v. non-citizen - the economic benefit in the short term is outsource/insource - there is no consideration for the population.

US Citizens are an externality to the business world.

2) On the college side, the US has already financialized the college race, arguably to a nearly corrupt degree. There are tons of kids going to Uni in the US, many of them ill-prepared, and then will be over-indebted.

3) Silicon Valley VC does not want longer-term risky bets, they want to make short term bits with big near term payouts, with long term outcomes again, irrelevant.

It makes much more sense to invest in something like Twitter/TikTok/SnapChat than most other things in this context.

4) And who exactly built those supersonic planes? Was it VC's? No! It was generally the government, with the impetus of war, specifically WW2 and the Cold War! Literally ARPANET.

5) 'Building here' would entail a coordinated national strategy that is anemic to free-market types they usually can't even contemplate it. It would take something like an economy-destroying epidemic (!) to realize the consequences of their lack of strategic investment at very least in things like specific manufacturing (medical, medicinal) and food production. All of a sudden those farming subsidies start to look a little different!

6) So what issue ties all of Marc's seemingly disparate points together? Why didn't he look deeper at Taiwan, S. Korea, Singapore as examples? What's actually going on there at a more fundamental level that's different from the USA?

I'm not necessarily advocating for some big 'state-managed' anything or huge governmental intervention. But I am certainly advocating for rational and specific nationalist intervention, with a communitarian attitude - or at very least the contemplation of it.

The fact someone so enormously intelligent and influential 'didn't even go there' I feel is because the language is literally lost in North America. They have no idea what it even means. Much like entrepreneurialism, especially 'creative destruction' is a really hard concept for many business circles in Europe to get. It's like a foreign language.
The difference in density and sprawl between pre-car and post-car cities is staggering, and is not about the width of streets. You can't get around Los Angeles without driving on freeways.
You haven't told us why you want to be a CA?

What is it that you want to do, that you think you can do as a CA, but not as a customer/reseller of a CA?

In my experience as a CA customer, DigiCert is certainly expensive, but with that expense comes quite a bit of flexibility. Flexibility that might be able to meet your needs. Anyway, I would be amazed if the sub CA from Digicert program is more expensive than running a full blown CA, including the time and effort to get the CA into trust stores.

Plus, you're going to need to get a CA to sign your root / your intermediates while you wait for all the trust stores your customers care about to get updated; and by get updated, I really mean for your customers' customers to throw away their old devices. Your average Android device gets zero software updates, and lasts up to 7 years in your customers' customers hands, and who knows how many years behind upstream the manufacturer was when they built the thing.
you have no evidence for that claim... the '9' effect has been studied extensively
Get hold of the educational versions of Allegro or Lisp Works and learn the real deal.

https://franz.com/downloads/clp/survey

http://www.lispworks.com/products/lispworks.html#personal

They are the surviving experience from what Interlisp-D/Lisp Machines were thought to be.

Or in case you go Clojure, get yourself a copy of Cursive,

https://cursive-ide.com/
I doubt we are even near 500%, but I'll go ahead and say I think it's possible in the short term for California to be lose 500% of it's GDP. It's possible to borrow against our future, both literally with money, and figuratively by decreasing future productivity.

For instance, we're (probably) negatively impacting kids education, that's going to have a negative impact on the economy for the next 50+ years. If we fuck up the food supply chains too badly (e.g. migrant works, locusts in africa [1], etc) more kids will suffer from malnutrition, which has a long term effect. Increased poverty rates from the shutdown will likely increase crime rates (and have many other ill effects), which will have a long term effect. Putting the economy into a recession will no doubt significantly slow down all sorts of R&D work delaying useful (and even life saving) inventions. And so and and so forth.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/africas-huge-locust-...
> The more interesting question is: Will we come ahead in lives saved without the covid measurements.

I'm still waiting to see what has happened to the number of deaths caused by heart attack, stroke, etc. that aren't COVID related. I'm betting those causes of death have dropped by about the same amount of COVID deaths.
I worry about car crashes too! :-)
Reading how many popular websites embed tracking in URL's leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I've been cleaning them by hand up 'till now.
Sure. Let’s learn lessons from Taiwan too that sounds great to me.

(Taiwan activated its health department epidemic operations center on January 20th. SF activated January 21st. If SF had been able to use state and federal powers, we probably would have had a much better shot at avoiding shelter in place.)
What about VirtualGL? https://www.virtualgl.org/

As I understand it, when you open an OpenGL application inside Xvnc (et al) on :1, a shim is LD_PRELOADed that quietly redirects the OpenGL initialization calls so they create an offscreen buffer associated with Xorg at :0 (which is presumably sitting on a 3D-capable GPU).

Said Xorg can be displaying a black screen (or be being used for arbitrary purposes); no windows are ever displayed on it. Theoretically, avoiding compositing WMs may aid performance.
2nd. I’m currently in the early stages of my lisp/scheme/racket journey and enjoying it a lot.

I found it way easier to setup and get going than CL & Clojure.
Really great related read: https://m3-org.github.io/research/sweeney.html

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It is not directly in the article, but in a link to a tweet by djb, the creator of ChaCha8. He believes that the cpb listed in the Randen comparison is off:

https://twitter.com/hashbreaker/status/1023965175219728386

He mentions that perhaps the implementation of ChaCha8 for the benchmark is done by hand and unoptimized. And it is true from what I saw that a lot of benchmarks with ChaCha8 are implemented with none of the tweaks that make it fast.

In this instance, it looks like the Randen author didn’t reimplement it from scratch, but they used an SSE implementation, not an AVX2 one, which would have been faster: https://github.com/google/randen/blob/1365a91bafc04ba491ce79...
Not the person you are replying to, but on Firefox 75 player.vimeo.com is requesting WebVR permissions on gentle.app upon first load.

Also just quickly I want to say I love the idea and intentions behind Gentle! I haven't had a chance to play around with it too much yet but it really is a pretty app too.
Well at least it its there on WebAssembly.

If you bother to implement a macro system on top of it, you can easily get your own browser Lisp.
Better the dollar number is staggering than the death number. Would you rather it be reversed?
>Just trying to find the silver lining here.

Oh, we could pretty much save the planet and live happily ever after if we could keep it like this.

Only to find some rock barreling down on us some day, but ah... I digress.
> Agreed, but I can never get to the bottom of or reason why developers do not provide alternative UI interfaces (shells) so that the user can select what he/she wants.

It's because everybody wants you to use their thing and not some other thing. If people have a choice then some people will choose something else.

This is especially true when the choice is to continue using the traditional interface everybody is already familiar with, because that's what most everybody wants in any case where the traditional interface is not literally on fire. Even in that case, what people generally want is for you to take the traditional interface, address the "on fire" parts and leave everything else the way it is.

Good change is good, but good change is hard, especially in stable systems that have already been optimized for years. Change for the sake of change is much more common, but then you have to force feed it to people to get anyone to use it because they rightfully don't want it.
Suppressors don't make any weapon quiet enough to be useful for hiding the sound of firing up close, as movies portray spies doing.

It's more about protecting your own hearing.
> door-to-door small-group spikable public transit!),

What does spikable mean here?
I saw an article that they are up a lot.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/13/deaths-f...

A theory in that article is that it's likely to due to undiagnosed CORVID deaths from effects it can have on the entire respiratory system.
That's a valid criticism and something that ran through my mind when reading the article. But keep in mind that there's orders of magnitude difference in what they invest vs. the federal government.

According to these 2 articles, it could be around THREE orders of magnitude -- ~4 billion in for them in 2014 vs. ~4 trillion for the federal government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_Horowitz

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53624

One way to think about it is that they could plow 100% of their money into physical infrastructure, and come up with something like half an aircraft carrier ($8.5 billion according to this article):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz-class_aircraft_carrier

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Looking around a bit more, all of venture capital combined is something like $100 B / year. Which is less than 20% of what's spent by the military in a year, leaving aside all the other federal programs that could produce physical infrastructure.

Apparently, all of VC is also less than half the interest that the federal govt pays on its debt...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/277501/venture-capital-a...
Precient Romans: didn't use a digit based system.
MIM -> MM
What problem?
It seems to be happening. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/world/coronavirus-domesti...
I think you’re missing the point. It’s hard to tell when preventative actions work. It’s easy to tell when they fail. Right now the evidence is things would be a lot worse without them.
...which could also be explained by progressive groups being the target of more repression lately than conservative groups.
Probably a silly question but what are the savings from?
This one looks like a regular situation handled like a regular driver would handle it: the person was a reasonably long distance away from the intersection and by the time the car got to the crosswalk it was probably going at a high enough speed when suddenly braking would cause problems.

But yeah, it does look as something to re-analyse.
Plenty of people write Basic as Office macros, VB.NET, Xojo or Blitz.
Is the german study of germany? Because the ratio of recoveries to deaths is way higher in germany than the united states. The risk of covid varries a lot by geographic region and usa seems like one of the worst.

> It's also worth calling out the flu has killed 2X as many people as COVID has to date this flu season. A bad flu season in the US kills about 60K people each year.

So far. The flu season started before the covid season so that's a bit of an apples and oranges as you are comparing different time scales. The bigger issue though is its unknown how big covid could get if it balloons. Like its mostly on par with flu now, but its not over yet and that's with the taking of extreme messures to prevent transmission (which we dont do to prevent flu). Measuring potential risk in terms of what's happened so far when we haven't even seen what a complete season of covid look like, feels premature. Jumping off a bridge also looks safe if you base your predictions on the lack of all the bad things that happened before you hit the ground.
Ignore the skyrocketing rates of suicide, domestic violence, and child abuse.
>What were we doing for all those years banging bones with round rocks?
Surviving! Man's conquest over Nature is a fairly recent occurrence.
> Python would not normally be classified as functional btw.

For that matter, Common Lisp isn't a functional language by the modern definition either.
It's not only Poland and India. And the attitudes the graph supposedly shows shouldn't change that much in 9 years.
You could start with How to Design Programs 2e, free[1]. You'll get good feeling of Lisp working with Racket-like language (it's not a book about Racket). Then you could go with Clojure and work on some real projects.

[1] https://htdp.org
> An accidental lab transmission from bats to pangolins to humans (currently thought likely) is much harder to believe.

The pangolin hypothesis has been proposed by one research group, as far as I can tell. A whole-genome comparison found that the pangolin and human coronaviruses share 90.3% of their DNA. Civets, the source of SARS virus (SARS-Cov-1) shared 99%+ of its DNA with human SARS.

So far, the closest match to the human coronavirus has been found in a bat in China’s Yunnan province, which is where the research bats at both the Institute of Virology and Wuhan Centers of Disease Control were from.

> The lab-transmission theory is also dangerous because it's currently baseless in terms of hard evidence

Hard evidence will be extremely hard to come by in a situation like this. But based on circumstantial evidence, it's a leading theory. There's a reason why multiple Western intelligence agencies are reported to be considering it (including many that dislike Trump).

> It doesn't follow the rule of simple explanations.

Not true. In fact, it's one of the most straight forward explanation so far. A Beijing lab studying SARS in animal models experience 2 fatal accidental spillover events in 2004, infecting multiple humans with SARS.

If it was caused by a wet market, why have Chinese authorities started allowing them to operate again? That seems really risky, no?

> Yes, it could be true, but I hope you'll join me in really hoping it isn't

I agree. I hope it isn't, but it's imperative to nail down what caused this. Civilization may well depend upon it. Covid-19 has been an amazingly benign illness compared to what it might have been. We have to figure out if it was a wet market. If it was, it's incredibly foolish to allow them to continue to operate. If it was an accidental lab release, the world community needs to pressure the Chinese authorities to better regulate their labs.

> "It's from a chinese lab accident" is not the pseudo explanation we all need right now,

It's far, far less of a "pseudo-explanation" than the bat soup, which was taken as gospel for a while.

> Because I unironically think that if it turns out to be true it could cause a war.

It's possible, but I'm very skeptical we'd go to war for a variety of reasons. First, this is an accident we're discussing about, of ordinary scientific research. Not a bioweapons program, or an intentional release. That's very significant, obviously. Second, but Trump wants to avoid getting into war at almost any cost. His isolationism is part of his appeal to his base, and the one thing that I believe would cause them to desert him once the body bags started piling up and the initial patriotic fervor wore off. He knows this.

I'm personally more concerned about another deadly pandemic coming out of China than I am about a major war. Emerging diseases like SARS, H7N9, and now Covid-19 have all come from China in the past 20 years. We really need to get a handle on this, ASAP.
Look, if you trust a Facebook or google owned property to respect your privacy that’s kinda on you. They’ve proven time and again they do not care about your privacy at all.
At least in the Netherlands, definitely not:

The first Figure in this article (Dutch) shows the number of deaths from any cause.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2330786-oversterfte-door-corona-blijf...

During the Corona outbreak, almost double the amount of people are dying compared to the same time last year.
Your risk of dying is, accepting the 0.37% for the sake of argument, 0.37% if you're infected. The actual chance of anyone, even of someone in a more dangerous demographic, of dying of Covid in their lifetime is significantly lower than that.

Additionally, I believe the 1% chance of dying in a car crash is over the course of a lifetime. A 55 year old has likely lived well over half their life and has also aged past a significant chunk of the riskiest time to be in a car (likely 16-30).
https://engineering.fb.com/security/fighting-spam-with-haske...
Algorithm book using Lisp

https://leanpub.com/progalgs/read#leanpub-auto-data-structur...

Or a book like Barski’s Land of Lisp

https://www.amazon.com/Land-Lisp-Learn-Program-Game/dp/15932...

I would start with Common Lisp.
Key to their strategy was having deep enough pockets to fight many simultaneous legal and PR battles.
> the target of more repression lately

Such as?
A man's reach should exceed his grasp or what's a heaven for?
The US funds billions in research, this one time it even resulted in the internet. Probably a good idea to keep doing that.
Your original comment asserted that a machine _shouldn't_ be allowed on the market until its performance is significantly superhuman, but your responses in this thread just repeat the assertion. What's the actual rationale for claiming that we should leave a net benefit on the table (eg if human-level driving performance improves transit efficiency)?
It would probably be pocketed by a politician in California.
Funny you say accidents are rare. The death toll from covid in the US has just barely surpassed the amount of car related deaths per year in the US.
Thanks for the info! I guess it also only happens if you have some VR device setup. Sorry for the trouble with that. I'll swap out the vimeo embed soon since that sounds like annoying and unnerving behavior.

Also, thank you for the praise!
Somewhat related, what I could be the closest equivalent -in the realm of sound- of a mise en abyme:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone

Both fascinating constructions.
You can do that in Second Life, and do. I wrote a whole non-player character system for Second Life. There's a 64K memory limit on how complex a program you can write, because server resources are limited, but you can have multiple programs and pass messages between them. You can make HTTP requests of external servers, and it's common to call out to servers that keep databases for game state and such.

It's not all pre-made skins, either; you can go into Blender or Maya and make whatever you want. (What Fortnite calls "creating skins", from a supply of pre-made parts, Second Life users call "getting dressed".)

The downside is that you have to be good enough at 3D artwork creation and the tools for it to make something good. Anybody can create in Minecraft or The Sims. There's a high bar to entry in the systems that allow full creation capability. This is a real problem when attracting new users.

Nobody else seems to have both "big, persistent shared world" and "fully general user based creation". Most systems limit one or the other. There's also a big problem with Second Life viewers choking on excessively complex geometry, which brings down the frame rate. Second Life badly needs better automated level of detail generation.

(Automated level of detail generation is supposedly a solved problem. The trouble is, the usual algorithms don't work on clothing as separate items. Second Life mesh clothing is not part of the body. It's like real-world clothing, a 3D object with an inside and an outside. Sometimes designers omit the inside, if you can't see it, but usually it's present. Mesh reduction algorithms in common use have a terrible time with thin objects like cloth. If the original has a wrinkle or pleat that affects both sides, which are separate meshes, it's hard to flatten that out during mesh reduction while maintaining the thickness. Nice R&D problem for somebody.)
You should Google some of the stuff the FDA fast tracks. You'll almost certainly come away with a much wider view of the regulatory state.
There are many book resources and it’s way more fun.

I recommend Practical Common Lisp - its free online:
http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/
I’m in
For 6T I feel like we could prevent the half a million malaria deaths that happen each and every year since forever and have money left over to tackle the 100k obesity deaths each yeah in the US.

I’m not saying our response is wrong by the way. But it’s a jaw dropping number. It’s a building a moon base, or universal healthcare for a decade, or a mission to mars, or high speed trains up and down America’s coasts number.
OK, OK, my bad; a single large multicore NGINX box can only do about 100k full TLS handshakes per second with 2048 RSA. So it'd be several seconds.

On the other hand, verify is cheaper. My crappy laptop will do ~320k RSA-2048 verifications per second...
Why should education be a market? Why does it make sense for poor people to get worse education? And if you're thinking the government will subsidize it, how is a sufficient subsidy different than public education?
Public Health England’s all-cause mortality surveillance suggests not, at least in that country: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...