skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I sure wish people who are being asked to go above and beyond during this crisis would be compensated above and beyond for it. The idea of people putting themselves in danger for the rest of us for a shitty wage is so depressing.

(I'm thinking healthcare workers, grocery clerks, etc. Not that the power folks are necessarily putting themselves in danger)
Back in undergrad (ca 2013) when I got super serious about privacy, I used the Jitsi client to videoconference with friends over my XMPP server [1]. It was pretty much the only open-source VoIP solution I could get working at the time. The experience was actually pretty smooth, with quality comparable to Skype and Hangouts at the time.

The main pain point was that I had to force everyone to download Jitsi and connect to my XMPP server...

Excited to see they're still doing cool stuff!

[1]Technically the XMPP server is just session management.
That fear and panic really got you it seems. Should we kill other people for infecting others with the seasonal flu virus as well, which also costs many lives per year? If you are endangered it is up to YOU to stay safe not the other way around. Do you know how many people die of car accidents? Should we kill all drivers just because they are potentially threatning someone elses life?
I thought GDI is now emulated over Direct2D.
This is really nice, but who is paying for all the infrastructure and bandwidth?

Are there more details?
All presidents talk about stuff they don't understand.
They could certainly try to, and maybe even succeed! But a day later, no more UK, France, and Israel. So they may think "well... maybe we shouldn't"

Weapons make everyone civilized.
Uber CEO to Trump: Include gig workers in coronavirus relief package
I am an extremely pro-self-medication (implying every literate person should have basic medical education knowing how does their body function and how to maintain it optimally) and anti-scheduling person yet hell yeah I agree - people whom many people believe in, especially the officials like the freakin president should quadruple-check before saying anything what can be risky. Billions of people listen to him, a huge portion of them is not particularly bright, he should take that in account. Ideally it should be illegal for an official to say anything that is not scientifically correct.
I didn't understand your explanation but I think there is something (similar to car radios today) that detects if you are on a signal or not. And if you are not on a signal or it's too weak, it turns the screen black automatically (or mutes the radio). I have seen this happen on a TV when a bad storm weakens the signal from an antenna, for example.
He drank aquarium cleaner because the President of the United States told him it would cure the virus. Not a stretch at all.
I used to live 5 min from school.In 12 years, I never,even once, went for a big one there,because the toilets were disgusting.
+1 this is an awful name if you want to get anyone serious on board. Seems super scammy.
You imply there is a necessary noise in the conversation. Who are we to define what credentials should be used to define what is noisy and what is not? I think the best way is to attack the argument itself, not where it is coming from.

If the discourse become authoritative and biased, we shut it, disregard it pointing out the flaws. But we have to be careful not to be authoritative ourselves when we don't even give the chance for the writer to be wrong because he lacks the right credentials.
s/annoying/anyone/ thanks autocorrect
I was wondering about the name too. From https://jitsi.org/what-is-jitsi/ :

SIP Communicator is renamed Jitsi (from the Bulgarian “жици”, or “wires”), since it now also supports audio and video over XMMP’s Jingle extensions and it would be silly to still call it SIP Communicator.
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Well, that got answered.
Frankly, I don't think its enough. It needs to be national.
If you want to ask those questions, you also need to ask what's the alternative. What happens if we continue business as usual and 5% of the population dies in a couple months? What if the virus mutates and another 5% die in the next couple months after that? What if immunity only lasts for half a year, and we get a 5% death rate every year from now on? Is it reasonable and the price worth paying?
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Are you arguing that the chloroquine they took, as chloroquine phosphate, is different from the chloroquine that's used to treat malaria?

That's more than "a similar name". It's the same name.

From what I've read, both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are used to treat inflammation.

So is it chloroquine vs hydroxychloroquine that you're referring to?
These types of drug screens rarely produce good results and you need to take things with a huge grain of salt. People in the field know this.
> The founders hoped to create a new nation where the government didn't try and maximize its tax on citizens and just tax enough to maintain the functions of government.

That's not at all what they hoped to create. The colonists didn't write no taxation or minimize taxation but no taxation without representation. Don't take my word for it, though, they wrote up a whole list of grievances (most of which have to do with the representation bit): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievances_of_the_United_State...
If you scale 2x then things won't be blurry, will they?
It's a prescription drug (unless you're ingesting the aquarium cleaner). No one is recommending self-medication.

Two people having a bad reaction suggests highly improper usage.

Do you dislike it mainly because Trump mentioned it?
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There are several MSM sites reporting the death toll of US corona victims and they hover around 500 total at the moment. Note that they're very liberally grouping deaths into the corona bucket so I expect the number to be much lower in a post mortem. It's going to be like Trump's 2016 win where everyone was left scratching their heads and wondering how their math/fake science failed them.

My flu death rate of 200/day comes from the CDC's last year figure of 34000 / 6 months (a really stretched flu season).
Lithium, valproic acid, anticoagulants and -mycin antibiotics (topical excluded) and all anti-depressants are not available OTC in the US.

Acetaminophen has a therapeutic index of close to 8, much better than chloroquine.
Thank you, I'd misunderstood the author's intention, my fault for not reading the article carefully.

> In this case, we only encrypt the content once with the random key so we don’t need an iv and can leave it filled with 0.
A couple recentish, quick games I quite like:

Just One: word game kind of like Taboo, but it's cooperative and there's no time pressure.

Kingdomino: quick tile placement strategy game with a fantasy theme.

... Also Euchre: A card game like bridge, but way simpler, that's popular in the Midwest and Canada (Ontario anyway). My sister and I learned to play with my grandparents when we were in kindergarten.
I feel as though people are naive when it comes to their freedoms. They never had the freedoms they talk about, the state has always had the power to make it go away.

The state can draft you into war.
The state can take your children away.
The state has the power to imprison you.

AND the state can impose very strict quarantine measures.

People complaining about their freedoms being taken away don't realise they never had them to begin with.
As a resident of the USA, thank you for your service.
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They also haven't shut down their economies, which was the point I was making. The actions you describe are not mutually exclusive to a more nuanced approach to reduced economic activity. That is, something other than economic suicide.
It's P2P, like most videoconferencing. The server part is just for session management.
I don't get a malware/scam vibe from the name, but I'm probably missing something. What makes you think that?
And firewall punching etc
Given it's a bulk cleaning product, they'd need some damn finely calibrated scales to measure out anything more precise than "a pinch". Which clearly isn't good when 3x the clinical dose will land you in hospital.
Totally
Roman civilization collapsed in britian sometime around early 5th century
The next time anybody heard of central heating or plumbing on that island was roughly 1500 years later
As an electrician I'm always amazed at the Wonder of how it all works, and at the blissful ignorance of many regarding just how much hard work and professional knowledge is involved in, you know such banalaties as keeping the lights on, the water running, the garbage disappearing, the shelves stocked...
Sure, but the point remains that this was a sales engine that was very similar. It certainly was a faster path for Microsoft to bootstrap cloud sales teams than whatever Google's long, winding path from ad sales to whatever it is they think they are doing with GCP sales.

(Though it hasn't seemed to work effectively for IBM. That may just be IBM incompetence as old school commodity-priced Mainframe mentality should be exactly the same as cloud sales. There's probably an amusing alternate world where IBM Cloud is using something like 1950s presentations only slightly modified to sell "cloud" in 2020, just because they could.)
Almost no one should be taking 4g of acetaminophen a day. That’s definitely going to be toxic given enough time.

It doesn’t belong in convo with other drugs because it requires far less monitoring. It’s also not taken chronically like the other drugs. Or shouldn’t be, at least.
If you don't mind me asking, how will that cut affect you? Can you afford it or will you have to make sacrifices? Is there something you're doing in response, like seeking new job opportunities?
chloroquine phosphate might be one of many compounds of a cleaning product for aquariums. One other very common part of cleaning products, and extremely toxic, is chlorine. Was this specific cleaning product intended to be used when the fish are still in the tank?

Its things like this which is the reason why Sweden has almost banned every cleaning product that has the word alcohol as one of its ingredient, and those that still have it usually must have something that cause vomiting if ingested. People poison themselves (which is I think the more technical correct term than overdosing), and if people will look at something like a cleaning product and think "I will drink this" then there is not much options available.
This is a smear tactic to silence the rational and logical criticism of near constant mendacity by a public official. The actual political agenda here is the smear tactic itself, that tries to stop holding such public officials accountable to their prior statements, as if they have taken no oath of office that binds them to a fiduciary duty to protect others.

We can have no civil society without these oaths being taken seriously, and holding people accountable for breaking them. It does not matter if they are CEOs, CFOs, CIOs, senators, representatives, or presidents. We are lost if they are treated as mere scraps of paper or words people say as blasé ritual.
Fighting Covid-19: the heterogeneous transmission thesis
There is...both in vitro and in vivo.

The pushback on chloroquine is completely insane. It's a 90 year old, well-understood drug used safely by millions with mild side effects.
Saying that someone took X when referring to a chemical, and X is just a scary way of describing a use for that chemical, is really just FUD tactics. You know what else you could say that is just as meaningful? So-and-so died because they took an 'aquarium cleaner'... where the reference is to Water, which is also used when cleaning aquariums. Everything is chemicals.
Okay well you're going to have to tell the FDA, the CDC, the WHO and many other equivalent organizations all over the world that.
I did not know this many people in HN were functionally illiterate. The article does NOT say they drank aquarium cleaner. Learn to read, people!

A man has died and his wife is under critical care after the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate, an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks.

That’s like saying “My neighbor had a banana, a common ingredient in certain brands of monkey food, for breakfast this morning,” and people going around saying “she ate monkey food.”

Chloroquine phosphate is one of the two quines being touted for its potential efficacy in treating COVID-19 (the other being hydroxychloroquine). Nowhere in the article does it say “the man and his wife consumed a gallon of aquarium cleaner, which contains an additive with alleged curative properties.”

Learn to read.
> I don't see why every story needs to be about him.

He's literally the President. If he didn't want the spotlight on him, he shouldn't have run. If he doesn't want a negative spotlight on him, he should stop confidently proclaiming bullshit that requires nuanced correction to not be actively harmful.

It didn't really matter when the topics were just partisan squabbling, as nothing was going to get done anyway. But we're now facing a shared crisis and yet he keeps at the same disruptive boasting. It's inexcusable.
> For treatment of HIV?

For any virus. I didn't say it was safe or effective, I said there is a plausible mechanism of action.
Euh, I think a secure attention key is fine; you only have that chord sent to a designated trusted process; preventing other processes from being able to react to it and mimic an auth dialog.

Am I missing something?
Looks like they weren't alone: https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/sales-of-fish-tank-additive-sk...
They are doing clinical trials for it in COVID, so those will reveal its efficacy.

The FDA, CDC, and WHO’s position is the same as mine.
Slightly surprised by the response, Jitsi seems fine to me. Is it worse than Slack?
I don't understand why Facebook doesn't offer there developer machine provisioning to the outside world. They have the talent to build VPCs on top of SDN.
Saying "this drug might be effective" and saying "you should get your hands on any form of this drug you can find and then self-medicate" are obviously very different things.

Anyone that hears the former and does the latter wins a Darwin award – and no, it's not the speaker's fault.
I would also suppose that aquarium grade chloroquine doesn't go through the same dosage assurance process. This is why it's dangerous to dose yourself using chemicals that are pharmacologic. Unless you're taking medication designed and verified to be used by humans at the given dose, you don't actually know if the concentration written on the box is actually what you're taking. These aquarium chemicals are likely unregulated or regulated much more loosely, so that the margin of error may easily kill a person, but not a fish.-

They may also contain non-active ingredients that are not harmful to fish but kill humans. Who knows?

In other words, don't take aquarium chemicals and think they're medication.
The problem with Pascal's wager (finite loss/infinite win) is that we can't calculate the probability of the existence of a God. If it is infinitesimally small, then there is no paradox.

By the same logic, you must stop eating carrots if I tell you that doing so will be infinitely rewarded after you die.
Seems completely reasonable to me.

He says "have a real chance". He's not promising they work and stating that he and the FDA are doing everything they can to find treatments.
The main reason chloroquine is getting criticism is because Trump mentioned. This is utterly insane.
> Actually, I like that they don't deviate from the standard on that one.

USB C charging is a standard, and it's the standard most laptops and other devices follow these days.
The secure attention key is handled or if you will caught in the keyboard driver, and then sent to Winlogon, a user space program. How does that relate to graphics being in the Windows kernel?
Government ignored advice to set up UK emergency alert system
I'm not qualified to comment on what differences exist between chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, I'm pointing out that aquarium cleaner tablets are not medicine. Even if the names are the same, you have no idea what a tablet like that is cut with.
To be more accurate the French study was for hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) not just chloroquine phosphate which this couple apparently took...
People will do stupid things no matter what you say.
> Neither of these concerns affect Google Cloud Platform. 1) Google has not cancelled any GCP product that I know of,

Of course it affects GCP, because due to their existing reputation, people think “Google has not cancelled any GCP product yet”
Luckily a lay person cannot get medical grade chloroquine. They can purchase a chemical to use in aquariums, but that is not medication. Those chemicals are not regulated, and may contain all sorts of other compounds that could kill humans, or have an incorrect amount of chloroquine.

Sorry, no matter what the president says, self-medicating is nuts.
They have a bigger problem now of including the commercials in the media itself. How much directing and screen time is wasted on focusing on a car brand’s logo or talking about the features and blah blah.

My solution was to simply stop watching or to watch older stuff.
90 years. By millions of people. Also for arthritis and Lupus.
Oh, interesting, I would have thought at least every few counties would have their own crew. Huh.
I submitted this because FT took it out of their paywall. Their charts are visually appealing, and are updated daily as new data comes in.
Yep, I have to agree. Facebook in some ways is incredibly ahead of the game, and in other ways, is shockingly behind - I was baffled when I started working there.
It's a salt rather than a synonym.

Drugs often come as a salt made from some active ingredient (here, chloroquine) and a counterion (phosphate). This often makes the active ingredient more soluble than the charged active ingredient alone.
Sorry, this is just not true.

The in-vitro results for chloroquine as an antiviral have been positive for many viruses, but it has never worked out in RCTs.

Claiming there is good evidence from in-vivo studies is scientifically illiterate. Please post links to well-done RCTs if you believe they exist.

There is a reason the WHO is running a 5-arm clinical trial for COVID.

Edit: Your response to me literally says “In-Vitro” in the title.

Edit 2: “There is absolutely evidence” ... But no links. No, sorry, you are still just wrong.
I think this has likely become worse in recent history. I expect all of these households have "internet" access through a smartphone, but won't have a home connection to use with school issued chromebooks.
He didn’t. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22670152
My advice was aimed at people living in 1980 who had a spare TV they could use for the computer. I suppose your advice is good for people living in 1990 who don’t have a computer monitor yet.
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> if people will look at something like a cleaning product and think "I will drink this" then there is not much options available.

Last year I watched as a homeless man squirted hand sanitizer into a cup then drink it. Before a woman yelled at him and started calling 911. He disappeared pretty quickly after that, so not sure what ever happened to him.

Fun fact: The hand sanitizer stand he used was one of the ones installed around public areas in Toronto after the last SARS outbreak.
I demand to speak to Adobe’s manager!
The daily “Coronavirus Task Force” briefing is 98% political propaganda and quite entertaining to watch.
There's this text at the bottom of https://jitsi.org/ page:

Jitsi is proudly powered by an awesome open source community — and 8×8.

8x8 looks like a commercial product based on Jitsi:
https://www.8x8.com/
Aquarium cleaner likely contains more than just this one particular chemical, plus water. They may also have had comorbidities.
The virus doesn't magically teleport from one person to another. Aerosol infection is still somewhat disputed. If adults washed their hands and stopped putting their hands in their mouth and nose like toddlers, their viral load and resulting infection would be less severe. We will all sooner or later get some copies of COVID-19 in our bodies, make sure it's not too much.

Hopefully the panic measures introduced because people are too dumb to understand basic hygiene will be pulled back soon before the economy blows up and we have much bigger problems than a few 100.000 dead people.
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It's been confirmed effective against SARS CoV in vitro [1]. Before you say it, yes, I know treatments in vitro do not always work in vivo.

Reports from China, South Korea and France have suggested efficacy in humans against COVID-19.

1: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15351731
I agree that it's an awful name but it's a superb app! Can't believe this is open-sourced.
Trump told people to take it without a prescription?
Another curl | bash installer that is not even tied to a commit :(
That's the problem. This is supposed to be the time for Jitsi to be widely used and is a credible and a privacy-respecting, open-source alternative to Zoom. But will it break out from the free and open source audiences and reach into the mainstream where Zoom is? I hope so and it should.

Open-source, iOS and Android apps, self-hosting, video chat and first class web client support are all attractive and competing required features to stand a chance against Zoom and aside from its technical merits, it just needs to be more aggressive in marketing itself to capture some mindshare. Or even the name its should be changed to something less clever and to a more user friendly one which could be a start...
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I also think it’s a horrible name, reminds me of “Tootsie” and an equally ugly logo to match.

These things are subjective but if enough people hate it, perhaps it’s important to look into it.
Bestow whatever personal praise you want on Elon Musk based on power, charisma, whatever...

As one of the most famous people in the world, with his own agendas, and no medical qualifications... it is extremely irresponsible for Musk to make any sort of public comments about anything medical in nature. No matter what he says, a significant number of people will take it to heart and ignore medical advice, science, and their own common sense.