skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
We don't have to entirely speculate, we can look at existing evidence.

Australia has the most liberal welfare in the world. Anyone over 18 can get $984 per month, and up to another $242 in rent assistance. [1]

It has nothing to do with your previous employment history, or being fired, or anything like that. In fact, you can get it if you've never had a job in your life. You need to be "actively looking for work" which in reality means fill out a few job applications and forms every week. It's easy, I've done it.

You can't live a glamorous life, but you can certainly live. Especially if you get 3-4 people in a cheap rental, you'll have enough money to surf everyday, or watch TV, or smoke weed or do whatever else you want.

Yes, there are people that do exactly that, and probably will for all time. Has it ruined the Australian economy? nope. Has there been rampant inflation? nope.

I know it's not exactly UBI because if you have a paying job you can't get this money. So it's not "extra" money for everyone, but money for those that can't/won't or don't find paying work. It's interesting because it shows what percentage of people choose to sit around and do nothing with their lives and get free money - not that many [2]. When you dig into the numbers and take out age pensioners, people with disabilities and students (who get paid to go to university), you see that about 1.2 million Australian get welfare payments, which is just less than 5% of the population.

Keep in mind Australia has extremely low violent crime rates, and has one the highest happiness indexes in the world, and Melbourne is often voted the world's most livable city (or it comes in 2nd). [4]

Here's a great breakdown of how Australia spends it's welfare money [3]

Please, look at what other countries are doing and learn from it, don't just endlessly speculate about all the terrible ways UBI (or something like the above) might destroy things.

[1] https://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/16/dole-around-the-world-h...

[2] http://theconversation.com/factcheck-is-half-to-two-thirds-o...

[3] https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-welfare/australia...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Liveability_Ranking
What's the alternative? This shit economy that nobody understands that favors psychopaths playing number games with people's livelihoods?

I'll take just about anything else.

A thousand for every adult is just a basic message - people come first, profits come second. Right now, military industrial complex, financial speculation, big pharma, etc, etc come first, humanity is someone else's problem - how many fucking charities do we have instead of a proper functioning system that provides basic dignity to every citizen worldwide?

This idiotic way of life is completely unsustainable and frankly, a depressing system to be born into.
I think some are advocating for a value added tax with certain categorical exemptions. My limited understanding is this would make necessity purchases more secure while making discretionary “luxury” purchases more expensive
Everything is still open in the UK
Although the Diamond Princess had 100% testing and I’d wager much older demographic and with more comorbidities (and therefore much more likely to die). If anything that backs up the case Korea’s CFR is again overstated.
What's the usage idea?

UV sterilizers do work on most all viruses from what I understand but the issue is the the further from the light source the less effective it becomes and time, temperature and humidity are all factors which can affect the effectiveness. A UV-C light strong enough to clean a 100 sq ft room would be dangerous to humans so it could only be used as a sanitary item and not on all the time. At least as far as I understand it.

edit: just saw your usage idea. Not sure it would be doable and safe for humans but packages seems totally fair game.
Just to play devils advocate... this has the potential to cause an absolutely massive liquidity crunch. All debt is an asset - all payments on debt are a positive number in some investment portfolio/banks/etc balance sheets (eg a bond).

If everybody stopped paying debts and rent, the financial industry could crash overnight as suddenly nobody has the cash flow to pay each other any more. And that would trickle down immediately - not only as banks and property management groups go out of business, but in property tax revenues, pensions, people on fixed incomes, and then all the second and third order effects: insurance and reinsurance, massive market panics, etc. It sounds nice on an individual basis but the risk is insanely huge
As somebody else has said, put options are available. You must be really confident to short at all
>To that end, any French company at risk of going under will be allowed to stop paying rent and taxes during the shutdown

Wow!. Thank you I have argued that in crisis rent along with many other contract obligation should be exempted. I cant believe a government has actually done it.
Trackpad response on my HP Stream 11 is horrific. The only reliable way to scroll is to somehow get the touchpad to admit you are trying to scroll, so that the thin scroll bar appears, then move the mouse over to the scroll bar handle and click to drag it. Triple click to start a drag action also works, once you have the handle.

I love my little HP plastic laptop. It's a plastic toy I got for $85, including a Windows 10 Pro license, and I just toss it into my bag when I want to go somewhere. Perfectly adequate for text editing. Yesterday I had Visual Studio Code, web browser with 10 tabs, Ubuntu 19.10 via WSL, and Docker desktop all shambling along. I felt like Jason Bourne driving an attack Lada.

My other Win10 device is a ThinkPad x230. Its touchpad is also limited, but has three real hardware buttons.

Mostly I use similar aged MacBook Pro or iMac with Magic Touchpad. Totally different level of quality, no comparison really.

I always wondered why pro Windows laptop users in my family only used extra USB mouse devices. Ugh. I have yet to experience a mass market Windows laptop trackpad that most people would be able to use full time.
Here's a seemingly reputable source? https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1238310251679461377
> those loan defaults are what lettergram feared would cause the banks to collapse. So they're not independent.

You're missing my point. I'm not arguing that the loan defaults are independent of the bank failures; obviously they're not.

I'm arguing that the loan defaults, and the consequent bank failures, by themselves don't cause money to disappear. For money to disappear, the defaulted loans have to be written off, instead of restructured. If they're only restructured--i.e., the borrower negotiates a new payment plan with the new lender (whoever takes over the bank's assets when the bank fails)--then the money doesn't disappear. And, as I said, since the borrower's inability to pay is only temporary, caused by an external event, I expect most of the loans to be restructured, not written off.
unfortunately not.

figuring this out would make a lot of people happy, but it doesn't rank highly for our current use cases versus other work.

https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/kind/issues/763
> That Defendants be enjoined from infringing the Asserted Patents, or if their infringement is not enjoined, that Defendants be ordered to pay ongoing royalties to Labrador for any post-judgment infringement of the Asserted Patents;

I'm trying to figure out what on Earth could make the first approach appear like a sane course of action to anyone.
Apart from reeking of evil it's not like they have their own production line ready to go - they'd get nothing from it.
Lawyers being lawyers playing hardball and forgetting what time it is while PR dozed off?
Obviously they have to assert the patents however bullshit they may be, but goddamn.

(Yes, the stupidity basically irks me more than anything else)
"you have taxes high enough that the universal basic income is meaningless."

Not true. You should read the UBI policy proposal that Yang created for his POTUS run. You can find them here:

- https://www.yang2020.com/what-is-freedom-dividend-faq/
- https://www.yang2020.com/policies/the-freedom-dividend/
I love this. But part of me wants the rings to rotate the other direction. I don't know why. It's kind of like scrolling I guess, is the content moving one way, or is the view window moving the other way.

By rotating counter clock wise, the information (the current time) advances clockwise. I don't know if I'd like it better the other way, but a certain part of me is so used to seeing the actual mechanical movement be clockwise, that I want the rings to move clockwise.

Am I alone in this?
Inflation is a non-issue. Economic growth has largely been constrained by demand, not supply. And the modern economy is saturated with replacement goods. If the demand for milk goes up, I can switch to soy milk. If soy milk goes up, I can switch to Almond. And if all of them go up, I just drink water. Once most basic needs are met, inflation looses its power with a few exceptions. The financialization of our economy has resulted in crazy high house prices, education, and to some degree health care. And that was driven by excessive monetary stimulus. Giving working class folks an extra $1k a month is not going to cause houses to go up by $1M. But giving speculators access to absurdly low interest rates will.
More importantly... do those bathrooms come with toilet paper?
I run a legaltech called 40Q, happy to help and figure out if there is something that can be done here. Is on a case to case basis. Feel free to reach out.
Singapore and HK are cities, really, and the Singapore approach, aggressive contact tracing with mandatory stay at home orders, doesn't scale.

Taiwan and Japan are outliers so far, and they are monocultures, with famous compliance rates.

Korea is somewhat similar to Japan, but took a hit early, and has managed to beat it back.

China appears to have peaked, but did this with massive application of governmental policies which would never fly in the West.

Flatten the curve doesn't change that a large number of people are going to get this disease. The best news is danger increases with age, unlike the Spanish Flu. Africa is very young (media age), the US and China are roughly the same, while the EU in general is older (Italy and Germany especially). What matters is not hospital beds per capita, but ICU beds per capita. The US does much better by that measure. You don't need an ICU bed to give oxygen, which is what most serious clinical cases require. MIT Sloan gave a prize last year for a less expensive, simpler ventilator designed for most cases in countries with limited resources. We have options that aren't explored yet.
How would you feel about an infected person running around breathing all over the place? Other people don't know your health status.
The current 65+ bracket is already pretty heavy - heavier than Italy, the 40-50 bracket at the top of the inverted pyramid and will become a big problem couple of decades from now.

This is cynical nitpicking.
I made something similar back in 2018. Initially started as a bash script, later on added web version so I can use it from mobile devices.

It let you reduce the generated password length so it can satisfy the "security requirements" of some sites...
I suspect those sites are storing plain text password in a SQL table column, otherwise why would it limit the length to not excess 12 or 20 words?...

I shared it to some peers but they just prefer to use password they can remember by their brain ....

https://github.com/beenotung/gpw
Our current pandemic and the economic consequences certainly will make more people open to UBI. Once the recovery starts, look for businesses to invest heavily in automation so they're not caught in a labor crunch again when their human labor get sick, quarantined, or ineffective due to social distancing. This may cause a permanent shift in labor demand that never again comes close to matching the labor supply. Or maybe it'll end up like other revolutions with new currently unknown jobs opening up over time.
> Wuhan currently has R0<1 and it did not and still does not have "single cases here and there, maybe even 0 cases"

You're missing my point. I'm not saying that R0<1 implies "single cases here and there, maybe even 0 cases". I'm saying the converse: that "single cases here and there, maybe 0 cases" implies R0<1. Which is obviously true. And the scenario posed in this "Ask HN" question assumed "single cases here and there, maybe 0 cases", so if that implies R0<1, and it does, then the OP's scenario does assume R0<1, even though it doesn't say so explicitly.
Didn’t George W Bush send a cheque out to every American? I figured that’s what Romney had in mind more than full scale UBI.
It’s all good, life is too short to care
Yeah this is a real concern. I have heard that home staging companies (for home sales) are not operating, and appraisers may follow suit. Movers are a sort of adjacent industry and may shut down operations. Try giving them a call. They probably don't know for sure either but may give you some peace of mind and/or direction.
(Disclosure: we use wireguard heavily at fly.io to handle backhaul between customer apps)

The tldr of this seems to be "wireguard isn't as complicated as openvpn / ipsec infrastructure". Which is true. It's not, it has a much smaller scope.
> That's a retro thinking back to the era of the bond vigilantes. That's gone. There's so much stuatory purchases of t-bills that will outweigh any inflationary pressure from QE4. The demand for t-bills was almost insatiable _before_ this mess. Now, it's even more.

> T-bills will do just fine despite any outward appearances of inflation. BTW, would rather load up on real estate than "precious" metals. Gold is a relic from a bygone era.

It is further back to the inflationary period of the 70s, which is the last period that there was a mass flight from dollars due to the rate of CPI increase.

Investopedia[1] states the problem related to T-Bills rather well:

> Treasuries also have to compete with inflation, which measures the pace of rising prices in the economy. Even if T-Bills are the most liquid and safest debt security in the market, fewer investors tend to buy them in times when the inflation rate is higher than the T-bill return. For example, if an investor bought a T-Bill with a 2% yield while inflation was at 3%, the investor would have a net loss on the investment when measured in real terms. As a result, T-bill prices tend to fall during inflationary periods as investors sell them and opt for higher-yielding investments.

So when the CPI is going up and dollars are being used to bid up the price of physical assets, who is buying T-Bills?

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/treasurybill.asp
>Obviously virtually every desktop/server CPU bought in the last couple of years has AES-NI.

Except raspberry pis. Exactly the type of crowd attracted by simple home-rolled tunnels like wg
During that time in Canada we buy toilet paper...
I use Mintmobile (US) for my cellphone. They are a cheap provider. I pay $180 a year for 2GB of a data a month. They emailed the other day saying data is free for the next month.
I agree but I see this as a problem we could fix using financial tools. Rather than letting thousands if not millions of small business and jobs completely gone.
> I find it offensively stupid for packets to travel 1000 miles to reach a system next to me or in the same city.

1. Security isn't an absolute.

2. Defense in depth.

PDR (protect, detect, respond) is a well regarded strategy, for good reason. All of these are easier when done centrally (cloud proxy based). Detect can be particularly difficult to do well in mesh. You probably find it offensively stupid because zerotier doesn't have a Detect component, nor integration for one, nor any kind of consideration for it at all.
And Dräger already announced, that they going to extend their factory in Lübeck
https://www.iheartjane.com/ does delivery and will soon offer curb-side pickup for select stores.
How fast can it do with without native support?

EDIT: Seems like >700 Mbps is possible with the pi4. Not bad, IMO: https://www.reddit.com/r/WireGuard/comments/d8k605/gigabit_w...
I don't they're quite profitable yet (source?). Hence, raising the money.
Ask HN: What are the best things that could come out of a coronavirus recession?
Rahm Emanuel said during the last recession: "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." What big things should we do now: reform tax code, universal healthcare, 4-day work week?
To keep this as straightforward as possible: Illegal immigration is a crime and is enforced just like any other. Committing crime can mean incarceration, which many US citizens face everyday. It has nothing to do with being a "danger", but when you don't have permission to even be in the country then there's no bail or other release possible.

Also detainment centers are not cages but fenced areas with free movement inside where people receive food, shelter, healthcare, entertainment, schooling and legal services paid for by US taxpayers while their cases are processed. Detainees are free to deport themselves at any time. This is more accommodating than pretty much every other developed nation.
ICE doesn't protect the border, that's United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

ICE are the goons operating everywhere (i. e. not tied to the border) rounding up "suspected illegal immigrants".

Because it isn't exactly hard to find illegal immigrants, and their charter allows them to control people without objective cause, ICE gets to arbitrarily decide whom to harass.

It's the real-life version of the perennial fear of civil libertarians that too many criminal laws will just lead to any one of us being arrested whenever it happens to be convenient for whoever is currently in power.

It isn't going to end illegal immigration, nor curtail it to any significant degree. It just serves to keep a large segment of the people who see every day in a constant state of fear, unable to (for example) seek protection from crime or exploitation for fear of being deported.
I believe a lot of those in particular aren't US originating, but if they are, probably not to a critical extent. Many of them Chinese, or maybe passing through the U.S, but not all that much more critical than leisure travel anyway.
South Korea is about 0.9% currently, (deaths/confirmed-cases). If they have a lot of asymptomatic or untested people, that'd drag that rate down. Less than other countries since they test a lot. Their (deaths/(deaths+recoveries) is about 6% - that will drag the rate up as active cases resolve. The former rate went from 0.6% to 0.9% over the same time frame that the latter rate went from 28.5% to 6%. So... yeah, maybe they're around 1%, not counting asymptomatics.
Huh, so am I the only one seeing analogies to the behavior of some of my subsystems?
Good post. Yang provides additional answers in the FAQ he prepared for his POTUS run:

- https://www.yang2020.com/what-is-freedom-dividend-faq/

Aside from COVID-19, we have the 4th industrial revolution in progress now. Just take a look at these truck driver's faces once they realize just how far self driving trucks are:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iaKHeCKcq4
The six degrees – Kevin Bacon – TEDxMidwest
That was likely 40 from a single print run, probably under a half hour. They probably could print 200 on a single two-hour run, but were told the quicker turnaround was more valuable.
OK. Then why not any of those places become the innovation engine of the world? I heard people would become more creative and innovative under those circumstances.
Are you aware of the the corporate debt binge that's been going on for years now and stands at nearly $10 trillion dollars? People have been ringing the alarm about this for quite some time:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/corporate-de...
Reminds me of the game Super Hexagon. It’s a great game but a terrible time killer because you need all of your concentration to survive for… one minute. Most of the time you’re dead in less than 10 seconds. It’s terrible when you’re killing time at the bus stop.
The point is supposed to be that it can be optionally used with any of those app models or cross-platform frameworks, not that it relies on them ... but I guess it didn't convey that to you clearly enlough?
Time for them to toughen up and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
The version posted by the OP seems started from 2016.
I’ve always been sad they don’t seem to make them for king beds. I’d definitely get one if they had it.

I also like the idea of a Murphy giant table where I can keep all my junk laying around but simply fold it up to get it out of sight.
Charter prohibits working from home despite spread of coronavirus
But companies have expanded since then. It doesn't take the same optimism to invest at the same price points as 2018 as it did in 2018 (even ignoring inflation).
No way to have the statistics get lost in the noise for a prolonged time and then suddenly switch to strong exponential growth that totally buries a developed medical system. If the ratio of sub-noticeable to noticeable cases was so much bigger, by the time you'd reach Lombardy-grade hospital influx the growth rate would already be shrinking from saturation. A virus that shows the infection rate documented by serious cases in hard-hit regions is unable to spread slowly in an unaware and unimmunized population.
Yet here in Australia schools and businesses are still open and everyone is still cramming into public transport.

Nothing to see here, move along...

It could have something to do with the fact our Prime Minister is a raging prosperity cultist, eagerly anticipating the rapture, and attended a 3000 person cult rally only two days ago.

Coincidentally, 500 person gatherings were finally banned the day after their big rally.
> Ignoring Tech industry, most companies on earth could not withstand a 70% drop in revenue.

How many tech companies have withstood a 70% drop in revenue? BlackBerry comes to mind.
I wonder why is the successor needed at all, considering that XMPP is experiencing its renaissance right now?
The message does not really make much sense to me. Both service payments and pay dispute handling is overwhelmingly done online, so it is not affected by coronavirus and lockdowns.

We do not really know how long it will take. Emergency state and lockdowns may be the new normal. Everything that could work as usual should work as usual to not cause additional disruption.
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I might shoot you an email based on your contact info because this conversation doesn’t really suit itself to this type of forum.

I am not a programmer(but do computer things) but I didn’t do this stuff when I got my ged. Anyways I want to emphasize that your sobriety is really amazing and I genuinely look up to people such as yourself who can make it happen.
Almost 7M California residents ordered to shelter in place
Puts are insanely expensive now with the current IV. If you're just protecting a portfolio without selling, shorting SPY is fine if you have offsets in your stocks.
Frankly, my takeaway is that if one can use WireGuard, use it. If one can make small changes to use WireGuard, make those changes and use it. If one must use a feature only OpenVPN or IPSec provide, don't use WireGuard.

That's a compelling pitch for WireGuard. (And VPNs as a whole.)
In the UK they only found 1,543 cases from 44,000 tests. That would seem to imply they're either incredibly unlucky with the testing, or it's not as quietly widespread as one might hope.
There is an asymmetric risk, though. Due to feedback loops like methane release, we don't know at what temperature the warming will stop, or how fast it will go. The upper-range estimates are well beyond any temperature from the last 10 million years.
I only skimmed the first couple paragraphs but I immediately wondered why no financial protections came into play. That explains it. Sort of a misleading headline.