skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The Italian number (75%) comes from testing everyone in a village of 3000 people. The Chinese number (1%) comes from testing everyone who comes to hospitals and maybe their family members. I would guess that the Chinese sample was selected for people displaying symptoms (asymptomatic people will not go to the clinic), while the Italian number biases for people early in the course of the disease. For the purposes of public health and controlling disease spread, the Italian number is more meaningful.

Note also that it is possible the virus has evolved to spread more easily, which in the context of a lot of screening and social distancing of symptomatic people would mean more asymptomatic spreading.
It has already proven to be far worse than the flu in its strain on healthcare systems.
> Settle down. ... It's a virus and our medical system has limits. Shit happens. We react and (hopefully) come out well on the other side.

so your response is to just throw our hands up in the air and say "shit happens"? how is that productive in any way? that's exactly how we got here.

this article is a good read: http://nautil.us/issue/83/intelligence/the-man-who-saw-the-p...

just because there are viruses existing in the world doesn't mean we should be cavalier with them. over-population and our encroachment on wildlife is what's leading to the increasing rate of transfers of zoonotic viruses.

> You say overpopulation is a problem? Fine. Give me a practical and ethical solution.

> You say encroachment on wildlife? Ok, fine. Please provide a practical and ethical solution.

you seem to imply that there is literally no point in talking about these problems? as if we couldn't possibly come up with practical and ethical solutions? it isn't an argument to say "unless you have a detailed solution at this moment then the problem isn't a problem". a problem without a solution is still a problem. your argument is petulant.

> But suggesting that disease as a result of overpopulation is our fault without offering a practical solution adds nothing to the dialog.

it's not my suggestion. it's experts' conclusions based strongly upon evidence. it does further the dialog. viruses of this nature, and other issues facing humanity, have happened and will continue to happen at increasing rates. there is no need to have such a huge human population other than narcissism and selfishness. there is no need to eat certain animals. there are not a lot of reasons for much of the stuff we do other than we do it because we can. (however, a lot of interactions with animals with increase naturally simply due to our expansion into their habitat.)

how in the world does it further the dialog to say shit happens and we live on this planet and do our best?
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I really wish you had used a regular service definition when testing KinD. The omission reduces the usefulness of your comparison. I want to choose a local k8s cluster that is as close to production as possible. And I want my local deployment configs to be as close as possible to production.

You say that "ingress in kind is a little trickier than in the above platforms" with no explanation.

I feel disappointed and frustrated. :(
> Settle down. "The worst of humanity caused this?" It's a virus and our medical system has limits. Shit happens.

Sorry to say it, but that just demonstrates a major lack of knowledge of this situation and the events that led up to it and the way it was handled. Some of which go back years.

The fact that you think this is just a matter of our medical system. The fact that you think (“shit happens”) that there wasn’t really anything that could have been done.

I don’t have the time or energy to dig up a list of thing for you to read but if you want you’ll be able to find stuff if you read around and do some googling.

Here’s one thing to read https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bill-gates-warns-the-next...
What is the constitutional take on this issue? I've started voluntarily quarantining last week (skipped the gym and bars :)), but what I perceive as escalating over-reaction has shifted my opinion over the last few days.

If this is an order in WA and they don't literally put a cop by my door, I wonder where I stand when I willfully violate it.

I've tried to do some research but most of the freedom of movement cases seem to be concerned with interstate and international travel.
First it's true and I'm not telling it to a 4 year old. And second:

He bitterly scorned people "on social networks who pride themselves on not being afraid and ignoring the rules, complaining because their normal lifestyle habits are 'temporarily' in crisis - all the while an epidemiological disaster is taking place".
One way is achieving low latency, which is technically super hard, as others point out.
Keep in mind that another way is selecting less latency sensitive music, "slower" music with longer held tones. But that's a style change.
To add to that:

1. High dose aspirin might have been implicated in causing higher death rates from 1918 influenza: https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/49/9/1405/301441 (daily doses of 8 to 31.2 grams, are above the maximum safe dose)

2. But low dose aspirin has been studied and effects are not apparent e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4737981/
The first step to solving a problem is admitting that we have one in the first place.

Also, the disease itself may not have been our fault, but the sheer incompetence of many countries in dealing with it most certainly is.
Ask HN: Another startup blatantly copied us
I'm the founder of Arc (https://arc.dev).

Earlier today we noticed another startup with 3200+ upvotes on Product Hunt actually copied us completely:

https://www.producthunt.com/posts/cloud-devs-1

1) They copied our ENTIRE intro video that we published back in 2017 (when we were still called CodementorX).

Original Arc (CodementorX) video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkOp0Oz7ux8

vs Cloud Devs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naVBBZUkavg

Frame by frame. They even forgot to remove our X part of the logo at timestamp :17. We never gave permission to use this, and we’re sad to see such a blatant theft of our content that they are now marketing as their own.

2) We've also noticed they copied our website almost verbatim

Ours: https://arc.dev/become-a-remote-developer/get-started

> Become an Arc Developer
> Let us know more about yourself by filling out this short application. It’ll take you less time to finish this form than your cup of joe!

vs Cloud Devs: https://clouddevs.io/apply-as-a-developer/

> Apply as a developer
> Let us know more about yourself by filling out this short application. It’ll take you less time to finish this form than your cup of coffee!

What would you do in this situation?
Productivity is defined as output per unit labour. This means any profitable investment the firm makes will increase productivity (assuming the number of employees remains the same). If the minimum wage was indexed to productivity, then any such investment would increase labour costs.
That's why we warehouse patients in hospitals without sunlight exposure.
It's a virus and our medical system has limits.

Governments shutting down pandemic response units (eg https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/14/world/science-h...) because there hasn't been a pandemic recently is a self-imposed, short-sighted, and unnecessary limit.

It's not fair to say the healthcare system has limits if you're only providing the bare minimum (or less).
Also, sunlight has a lot of UV in it. If they can use it for water treatment...
Call me cynical, but it seems to me that their "new data" is a pretext to avoid losing face.

The overwhelming of the health services was obvious from the start based on the raw numbers, and at this point even drastic measures might not completely prevent it.

We're still waiting for them to publish their (previous) models, afaik.
Minimum wage doesn't grow with inflation because the point of inflation is to steal wealth from the working class:

https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/the-case-for-hi...
Qt and wxWidgets come to mind.

Definelty easier than making divs pretty with CSS spaghetti.
You know, I read this, and then I read other things implying we will fix climate change from this crisis, and I wonder ...

The markets has not reacted positively to this news because something possibly helping makes no difference. Actually making a difference to the situation makes a difference. Until the point where there clearly is something that makes a difference the outlook is really bleak.
This is a good video describing the hypothesized method of action of Chloroquine. Chloroquine opens up receptors on the cell membrane to allow Zinc to enter cells - Zinc interfers with the replication of sars-cov-2. So, take Zinc supplements to increase general Zinc levels in plasma/tissue and let in Zinc with Chloroquine.

An alternative proposed method of action for Chloroquine is that it binds to proteins created by sars-cov-2 (ORF3a, ORF10, ORF8). Those ORF proteins bind to heme (red in red blood cells), preventing oxygen from being transported -
https://twitter.com/davidasinclair/status/123897208275664896...
David Sinclair based his tweets on this paper:

https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surf...

But most organizations are going with the Zinc theory of Chloroquine. So take Chloroquine with Zinc supplements (France, South Korea, China are doing clinical trials).
Here is a translation of a Chinese study intermediate results - no data was released, which makes some people sceptical:

https://twitter.com/jim_dowling/status/1239255793171660800

Here is a great summary of available treatments used in different countries

https://epidemio.wiv-isp.be/ID/Documents/Covid19/COVID-19_In...

Although untested in-vivo, many clinicians prefer hydroxycholorquine due to its superior safety profile - and 4X better efficacy in-vivo (not in humans, in cells). I tried ordering that last week when the paper came out, not sure if i will get it, though.

Chloroquine is kind of old news. There has been a lot of talk around Chloroquine, starting around 6 weeks or so ago - the UK banned export of it nearly 4 weeks ago https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/comment/parallel-e.... I managed to order some before that.

References:

"Chloroquine Is a Zinc Ionophore"
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...
My quick read of the NYT piece is a comparison of Yang's plan and Warren's plan, and it concludes that Warren's is unworkable (e.g., how do you value the present value of Rihanna's future royalties? This has to be determined for Warren's wealth tax, but not Yang's VAT tax).

It does not read like an endorsement — just an assessment that Yang's plan is better than a plan he describes as unworkable (Warren's).

In the Youtube, he says: "My own view is that a universal income financed by an efficient tax, something like a value added tax, might well be worth considering" — hardly a full-throated endorsement.

Has he said anything else that is more positive? Or more specific with regard to the amount of UBI that he thinks would be appropriate/efficient? I wouldn't call either of these things an endorsement.
that is pretty much the hypothesis in their post
AFAICT, that 0.03% is for the U.K, not the U.S. And it doesn't say what the definition of CFR was. I've read a significant number of papers (primary materials) about SARS, MERS, H1N1, and influenza over the past few weeks. IME, CFR is usually defined as diagnosed or symptomatic cases as the denominator (which, as I've said, was until recently effectively equivalent), especially mid pandemic. But it's not always so defined. One notable exception that adds to the confusion is seasonal influenza, where U.S. annual fatality rates are calculated using post hoc modeling.

Even if we pin down CFR to be # deaths / # confirmed symptomatic, there's obviously still going to be some variability, possibly significant--quality of medical interventions, age distribution, etc. But trying to shoehorn IFR and other definitions into that number would compound such problems many fold.
I'll say it again: offer a practical solution and I'll listen. I certainly am not burying my head in the sand and I recognize we as a species have expedited these issues. Point granted.

But tell me what's next? Dont link to articles from academics and theoretical posits. Tell me what we actually DO without mandated birth control, resource allowance/ration...

I get that we are part of the problem. But that's going to happen again. We can be aggravated that the ignorant population wont get in line or we can talk actual practical solutions. I'm game for a dialog. You go first.
Here’s an analysis of this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22563932 (“High Temperature and High Humidity Reduce the Transmission of COVID-19”):

> One degree Celsius increase in temperature and one percent increase in relative humidity lower R by 0.0383 and 0.0224, respectively.
> Is there a chance that this will push e-mobility since low oil prices for a sustained period of time will make extraction unprofitable for oil companies?

Probably not. Different areas have different costs of extraction.

Shale oil/tar sands = expensive

Saudi Arabia proven reserves = low cost

This might put some of the North American oil companies out of business, but those assets will be bought in bankruptcy, so they'll eventually come back online when the price of oil gets high enough again.

> Or could it have the opposite effect and make us use more cheaper fuel for individual transport?

This seems more likely. Oil is primarily used for transportation. Cheap oil means less reason to go electric.

How much of an effect is the questions. I, personally, have no idea. Electric cars are improving at a very rapid rate. However, there doesn't seem to be a good solution for people who don't own a garage. There is some condo/apartment charging sprinkled here and there, but it's not very common.

> It seems to me that public transport / ride sharing could take quite a hit (at least in the next few months).

Typically, public transport is mostly funded through taxes, so it's not really in much danger.

Ride sharing will probably take a beating - especially since flying and night life are getting hammered.
How are the South Korean's coming up with such few positives if the disease is presumably spreading among the 70% with no symptoms?
Maybe Microsoft helped killing Atom, but I don't think Atom is completely innocent by itself.

I was an user of Atom and later switched to VSCode. It took me few months of weighting all the options before I made the switch. That's how much I love Microsoft -- Very little.

Don't know if they got it fixed, but there was a design flaw in Atom: Bug inside some Atom plugin (`linter-ui-default` is one of it if my memory is correct) can reset the entire Atom into it's default setting, and it happens randomly (See link 1, 2 and 3).

This problem pisses me off so much and so many times. The last time it happened, I accidentally deleted my backup configuration `config.cson` when trying to recover the setting. Yes, it is technically my fault, but no, really, it is not. So, after seeing all my life flashed before my eyes, I decided to stop living ... with Atom, I had enough.

VSCode is generally a better editor when compare to Atom. I mean, VSCode has it own issues, sure. But for me, so far those issues are mild and usually got fixed quickly.

1: https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/14922
2: https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/14909
3: https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-keeps-losing-settings/61617 (This one was in 2018 while the other two was in 2017)
Cheapish - as I recall about $300 for 90-day supply of generic hydroxychloroquine if paying cash in US. I mean, not cancer drug spends but if you are on it for life it’s an annoying annual expense.
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about about 200 gin and tonics per day

Great news. I'll only have to cut down a little.
I agree with you and practice that. But even in tech where work from home is an option and companies are rich enough to let people stay in bad anyway, in many companies it is treated as heroic to push through. Meaning, staying at home makes you seen as less comited and less passionate. Thus, people avoid it.
You can also setup the new version as a new instance on a different port and run them in parallel.
I did SCA heavy weapons fighting many years ago. The rule I was taught was that real weapons plus real techniques equals real injuries and deaths.

The SCA dealt with this issue by using real techniques with fake weapons — rattan swords, not metal. Some techniques were banned, too. Even with fake weapons, they were just too dangerous. The result was that a newbie could go out in armor and weapons and they might get bruised, but unlikely to get much worse than that.

The Marklanders dealt with this issue by using fake techniques with real weapons — blunted metal, but still metal. But you needed many years of practice before you could go out there and do what amounted to an impromptu “dance” with swords and survive without choreographing everything within an inch of its life.

Stage acting with metal weapons needs much choreography by people who know what they’re doing. And constant vigilance. I grew up in a theater family, and I refused to continue to participate in one amateur production where the director and the actors weren’t taking safety seriously. The director never forgave me for leaving, but I am confident that I was right.
9/11? Vietnam? The Cold War? HIV?

This is a blip comparatively. But I take your point.
Sure, but any sane ISP in a big enough metro will have ports are the local Internet Exchange where Amazon, Netflix (if you exceed the appliance), Google, MSFT, etc. all peer at.

After that, what’s left?

In Canada, it’s actually the incumbents that largely refuse to peer freely.
Getting Re below 1 seems like the right approach, but I really hope that we can do this through extensive testing and travel restrictions. This way anyone who gets any illness and can be tested immediately, tell their friends to get tested, and isolate themselves. Meanwhile the rest of society can function more or less normally, even if they have to watch sports on TV instead of live, and after a sick individuals recover they can be retested and rejoin society again. This seems so much better to me having everyone spend 18 months in moderate isolation until a vaccine is approved.

At least summer is coming and it's substantially safer to be with people outside.
> It appears to me that the natural next step is to make the minimum wage grow with inflation.

I feel that way too, but remember that indexing wages to inflation made the stagflation of the 70s significantly worse (I don't believe it was the cause, though it is often blamed). That doesn't mean it's not a good idea, in particular for the minimum wage, but some further thought is required.
Thanks, makes sense. Iceland also did voluntary testing and then estimated 1% of their population is infected. I doubt 1% is even showing mild symptoms. Remains the significance of asymptomatic spread. If someone does not cough or sneeze, are they shedding enough to be a formidable source of contagion?

https://grapevine.is/news/2020/03/15/first-results-of-genera...
I think this is a red herring, everyone knows the only treatment is Forsythia.
I wish the presentation page were not using lwt. I'm afraid many onlookers will think: "I can see what's going on in the exemple that's 4 lines of shell but those various sequencing operators in the OCaml source variant baffle me".
so what are your suggestions, exactly? just allow everyone to do what they want because a slight reduction in that might inconvenience them and things are going to happen anyway so why bother? what are you even arguing for?
At anytime in the future, the product might have licensing gotchas to run elsewhere than Microsoft cloud products.

This is already happening with Windows and SQL server licensing. This will happen sooner or later.
what do you do instead?
> I'm the one who best knows how to effectively allocate those resources in my life.

Some people do not get good enough education and do not know how to effectively allocate resources.

> There are some social services that are necessary and beneficial but these should be built on top of a UBI foundation for maximum effectiveness.

Do you mean the other way around? Necessary social services should be the foundation with UBI built on top of it. Social services can do some things better than UBI can even when assuming everyone uses their UBI completely rationally.
Agreed. And shutting 5hat down is a betrayal of those that dont know by those that we trust DO. There are 330 million people in this country (approx) that trust fewer than a couple thousand to guide us safely from pandemics. Those couple thousand are largely controlled by a few dozen whose motivations are political or economic in nature.
> I want people to have enough money to live reasonable and modern lives. What I DO NOT want is for UBI to become a political weapon and for the people who rely on it to have it taken away suddenly.

Personally speaking, as a proponent of UBI, I reluctantly accept that the first versions of it will have to be state-based. If only to be able to learn from its mistakes and iterate from them to refine them further.

This is one of the reasons I'm such a cryptocurrency enthusiast, after the wake of the financial crisis and massive unemployment in Iceland they deployed, and subsequently failed, with aurora coin to try and experiment with UBI. Had we gotten more information from it would have helped to be able to have a decentralized version of it by now, but it was too much for such a poorly backed project to surmount.

> That is a serious risk to that system that doesn't get enough attention. It could happen due to financial collapse or for political reasons. But no matter why it happens, the damage would be absolutely horrific.

I think this is inevitable and not a question of if but when it will occur, UBI will not be the biggest contributing factor to the 'system' failing, either: it will have been an outcome of centuries of needless war, currency corruption and Market manipulation, ecological destruction and climate change.

its just a matter of time. At least having this in place prepares us as Species for what lies ahead, the status quo cannot be maintained, this much has to be accepted.

The transition is definitely terrifying, but the idea of getting this right has so much potential and worth the sacrifice when you realize just how broken the 'system' really is.

I think this what most don't understand when they see the Greta Thurnberg led Gen Z revolts happening all around the World, and they're dropping out of school to protest; this system is already doomed if you cannot convince the future generation play along anymore.