skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Rental companies are already sending "we won't evict you" / "please speak to us if you have financial hardship" communications. These help, but the bills will still pile up and the government check won't cover 100% of expenses.
I am genuinely concerned. I don't want anyone to treat me the way these archaeologists treat our ancestors. I want to be left the hell alone.
ok thank you! Sent you a message on Linkedin.
India is handling this better than the US.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/world/asia/india-coronavi...

Excerpts:

The authorities used GPS technology, CCTV footage and mobile phone records to trace the movements of one Indian family believed to be among the first infected here. They returned from Italy in late February, and within days, medical teams fanned out to all the places they had visited including banks, restaurants and churches and quickly quarantined just about everyone they had come in contact with — nearly 1,000 people.

India was also one of the first nations to essentially shut its borders, canceling visas and denying entry to all but a select few foreigners. Some states, such as Kerala, are beginning to beef up internal borders, taking the temperature of passengers in cars and screening people on trains.
The lockdown is just to slow it down so you can reasonably mount test and forced quarantine response. Realistically it will need military to step in or something like that. You can’t stop it with just lockdown. Currently US is barely doing the former and not doing the latter at all (unless you are celebrity). It is bad. My projection is at least 100k will die by the end of the year if nothing changes
More frequently though the effect is that people think "our politicians do not know what are they doing; I will do what I think is reasonable" and do what they want.
I like how it's in "early access"…

Warning: scrolling through this page will pollute your browser's navigation stack.
I don't understand your first paragraph. If I torrent a movie, how does the torrent client know any of the things you mentioned as well? The answer is that the protocol does, along with some tags as to what the movie the file represents, like Radarr and Sonarr do. This would be the same, just on a locked down streaming client.
He didn't "say it's out there". Bayer did, who apparently think there's merit to this enough to issue a press release of their own and donate 3M pills. Bayer probably knows more about this than you.

Also, reuters, cnn, msnbc, etc. covered it.

Making the info available here in HN is not tantamount to telling people to self-experiment. that is laughable.
Could be but I got hung up on one of those shrines and whenever I start it now, I'm still there and try it a few times and get annoyed by it.

I have to get out of it but then it's probably better to start a new game... :-(
> Or that they are authoritarian superhumans with a superior response.

I think that you discount this option too quickly. Have you been to China before?
The article contradicts its own headline halfway through:

"Ms. Gilbert has worked at the Labor Department under presidents of both parties, and there has been no indication that she was urged by political appointees to make the request."

It proceeds to blame Trump anyway because: "Regardless of who made the decision, Trump is responsible for it."

There's a substantial difference in newsworthiness between "Trump asks states..." and "Nonpartisan Labor Dept official asks states..."

I guess this gets more clicks, though.
In practice it would look something like "Test every last American [with insurance coverage]" plus the usual assumptions about people without medical insurance not existing.
Some of my local moving companies have shut down, but others have decided they are essential businesses. So far, the order is not being enforced and it is essentially voluntary for individuals to leave their homes. I would suggest moving as soon as possible in case the government decides to really lock things down.
"Letting the virus infect everyone" at a 1% death rate means 3 million deaths in the US, right up there with the worst catastrophes of the 20th century. You can change the death rate and projections of number infected needed to get herd immunity and move that number around, of course, but not enough to change the overall moral calculus.
Ah, quick update to the above (can't edit anymore):

the final construction I posted in the above message is not good for arbitrary messages, because if msg starts with an all-zeros block then the inner and outer hash invocations won't have different IVs (which is bad).

If msg is structured in a way that guarantees that it doesn't have an all-zeros block as a prefix, then this construction is fine, but that does seem quite fragile...

Goes to show how easy it is to mess this up. :\
Okay, what’s necessary? I think a paycheck is necessary, therefore, if I lived in California, I’d continue to go to work.

Tons of governors are issuing meaningless statements like these. Ping me when someone actually imposes martial law.
The actual article is https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/business/economy/coronavi...
That's great but every day of not implementing the short term plan exponentially rises the strain on the hospital system.

Nothing I said refutes the soon-ness of information coming from all around the world, its still not here though.
Now imagine that if after 20 years worth of deaths car accidents would just go away on their own. Not ideal, but it's better than the current state of affairs with car accidents.
As pointed out below[0], this is a sensationalist headline and should be changed. This is the projection if no measures were taken.

Which makes sense: if 56% of the population is going to contract coronavirus in the next eight weeks, then the lockdown is pointless. You're nearly to herd immunity at that point, why cripple the economy if it doesn't even make a dent in the transmission rate.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22634268
> until the department releases the total number of national claims next Thursday.
I can't figure voting out on this site anymore. It used to work a lot like other spots, with primarily upvotes given to express general agreement or reward insight, and downvotes reserved for comments that got something factually incorrect. Now I'm seeing about a 50/50 split with downvotes, and it generally doesn't correlate in any meaningful way with either correctness or the status of the debate. It's routine to see discussions with reasonable participation on both sides gets a wildly asymmetric split in votes, with half of them grayed out entirely. And it kinda sucks.

In this particular case here in this topic: there's a voting (but seemingly not commenting) population that just really wants COVID-19 to be a flop. I'd be tempted to say that's a political position, but in fact politicians have largely unified on this (finally). Maybe it's a counterculture or conspiracy thing.
tl;dr: There's the software equivalent of RGB lighting and some trivial/redundant integration with Twitch and the like, but the most useful feature for gamers is the ability to throttle the browser's CPU, network, and RAM usage while you're gaming.

Sadly, we're at a point where that would probably be a useful feature for other browsers as well.
Going outside and congregating outside are different things. Surely a walk outside is okay as long as we keep our distance from others.
Even still, we just can't scale up PCR like that.
> there are more cases than we think right now (Maybe not 40x, but maybe 10-20x?)

We know there are more cases than confirmed cases. Order of magnitude at least
I do know what a plea is. Legally, this calendar is the only thing he stole.

I understand Google made many claims but apparently the evidence was only strong enough for this one minor article to make through the plea negotiations.

Now put yourself in this "fucking 40 year old"'s position and think about what it means for a corporation like Google to make these claims. Even if they're false you can't afford to fight them.

The guy was steamrolled.
Those mortality percentages are even likely to be even worse in the US since the US has one the highest rate of diabetes of the developed world and for some reason that seems to affect a lot the virus.

I really hope that the worst case scenario can be avoided.
~3 million people die every year in the US. Even if you assume no overlap (which doesn't seem realistic), I'm having a really hard time seeing how a 33% increase is the death of US democracy (if it's even still alive).
Sure but what happens if we do nothing for a month and let the virus spread rampant. Then we bankrupt the entire country paying for healthcare assistance packages for those who cannot afford it and are the hardest hit. Or would you recommend we just leave them sick on the streets?
> I don't understand how we get to Newsom's claim that 25 million Californians will get infected in 8 weeks. The math doesn't check out. The best data we have at this point is from China. They have 81,000 confirmed cases to date, most of them happened over an 8 week period.

I believe he was making a point over what would happen without any mitigation. China put in place very aggressive mitigation efforts to keep its numbers from exploding out of control.
Fortunately, a few measures have been mentioned here, but I like to address a more general point. You say there "has to be an endgame". My question is: Why? The virus is not something you can negotiate with, it's essentially a force of nature. As a more dire example, if a massive asteroid comes hurling towards the earth, we either get off this rock (rather unlikely), or we all die. Are you going to stand there and say "there has to be an endgame that is neither of those outcomes"?

The people ordering lockdowns only have limited tools in their arsenal.
I see what you're saying. Yeah, I agree.
This may be up your alley: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22576940 (I’m not affiliated with it)
I imagine most sites would be fine with email notifications. In-browser notifications just motivate them to come up with more reasons to notify you. Dumb reasons.
China's response in Wuhan in February was indeed superhuman, wrt quarantine, travel bans, medical personnel influx, infrastructure build outs, etc.

They built 2000 isolation hospital bed capacity in something like 6 days.
Do you remember the name?

Sometimes I get that feeling looking at the history of large software projects that have been around a while through upgrades, downgrades, branches, growth, layoffs, acquisitions, mergers etc etc. I like the sound of "whole earth scan".
They have access to better healthcare than you or I, though.
You’re right, strong usability is arguable. Very arguable.

But you’ve got a good point that they make it work. It’s certainly possible. (And obviously Linux is an exceptional example, let’s not forget it shares a creator with git.)
Could easily be. I got it when it came out.

Will have more time the next few weeks anyway.
Steve Ballmer was pretty good. He couldn't evolve the company to a changing world, but he made shit tons of money for Microsoft. Also I think Nadella has done a really good job: I think they both kind of needed each other to turn Microsoft into what it is today.
I assume the 25 million number is assuming we don't stay at home and go about business as normal.

81k is what China got after instituting lockdown as soon as they saw 400 new cases in one day.
This will be the fastest economic decline ever (by fiat!) but not the longest. One way or another it will be over in a couple years max. Perhaps much sooner if we develop an effective vaccination, treatment, or tracking program.
I came to this thread for this comment. It’s a really unintuitive point, and I think someone needs to create some type of visual representation of it so it sinks in.

IMO, this thing is a trap for politicians. A true lose lose for them.
1% death rate assumes reasonable medical care. If you let everyone get infected, you'll have people dying on the streets. I bet this % jumps to 5% or more. We'd easily see 15m+ deaths.
A significant percent, (I want to say most, but I don't have the numbers), of rental properties are covered by mortgages or other financing. "Pausing" mortgages can be done in a fairly centralized manner. Pausing rent is almost impossible because everyone has an individual contract and there isn't a central clearing house. It's a hard problem.
There is an alternative: locking down until testing can be significantly ramped up. This wouldn't need to take more than a month or two. The cost to test even everyone in the population on a weekly basis is much, much lower than the cost of being locked down, and once that infrastructure was in place, other measures could be dropped, because we would know and could isolate only those who are infected (symptomatic or not).

Edit: I should add that ramping up testing may take longer than that. I'm not an expert; just going by what I've read. Even so though, we should definitely aim to scale up testing as much as possible; the better our testing, the less restrictive and long-lasting isolation measures will need to be.
really? I just walked by a residential construction site near my house today and saw it proceeding as usual.
I don't know a single scientist that thinks that Ioannidis is on the right track there. He's known for being a contrarian, which can be a useful thing. But it certainly doesn't make him right, in fact he's quite likely wrong. And he's absolutely wrong, as he's not managing risk, but looking to make the minimum deviance from normal activity. Ie a very foolish take. It's sad that Stat News publishes that in this time. But at least they published this the next day:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/we-know-enough-now-to-ac...
It is truly painful to see how little people seem to understand or appreciate the living organism that is human action in the aggregate. Large surges in demand which are inevitably met with price increases are signals to other parts of the organism to send goods where they are needed. Higher prices encourage a balance of needs and responsible budgeting so individual cells don't simply take all that is available to the detriment of the organism as a whole.
Theoretically, its the stores that should be raising the pricing immediately when panics like this happen.

It would dissuade people from buying more than they need, possibly in hopes of reselling, as the prices would already be elevated.
I'm not from the industry, but from the outside, it looks to me as if the actual graphics quality these days is more about the studio art budget than clever tricks with hardware. Further improvement - to my eye - brings diminishing returns.

In this context, converging hardware with multiple compatible frameworks on top looks like a logical choice.

Console differentiation is more about exclusivity contracts these days.
Take a look at the graphs on this page, particularly "World, Confirmed Cases" and "US States, Confirmed Cases Per Million Inhabitants":

http://nrg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mjh/covid19/

We are not near an inflection point yet.
YES. I guess media thinks that more people will be susceptible to clickbait headlines when they're under in a "shelter in place".

Sadly, they may be correct. But it's also an indictment on the media nonetheless that they continue to write headlines stating conclusions the facts in their own articles right below the headlines don't support.
Readers may also be interested in this forceful reply by a well-known research at Harvard's School of Public Health who studies the dynamics of infectious disease, Mark Lipsitch (1). While the document linked in the parent highlights the many uncertainties we have, the response focuses on datasets from countries where we do have more data.

1. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/we-know-enough-now-to-ac...
What lives are being ruined exactly? Some accountant for GrubHub who misses his paycheck? People still have food lodging etc, it just sucks that our "economy" is dependent on 100% of the working age people working 100% of the time otherwise ... collapse? Let's save the lives we can and keep the lights on. Society will be fine.
There is something I really don't understand - if most people just stay at home and cut all non essential public activities to the minimum, how 50% of the population could still get infected?
I like Shedlock and his blog, Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis.

But his article relies on the info shared with the New York Times "The email, which was shared with The New York Times" and it would probably be better to use the original source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/world/coronavirus-update-...
There are a ton of features that browsers have added, and then tossed because no one used them. As well as features the browser vendors wish they could get rid of, but can't because too many sites made use of them.
RPC over Rabbit can work (and does) but you do have to remember that it in the end it is a queue and a couple of bad messages can stop your entire system.

RPC over Rabbit is fine if you don't care about the result, or you can guarantee that each message gets processed in a short constant time.
At a technical level yes, it’s wacky. At a “this is what government departments actually do” level, it’s perfectly reasonable. I’m sure NASAs current system is actually pretty efficient as the us government goes, but having spent a career running into the sort of institutional pathologies that lead to an interdepartmental quote for $10k/terabyte, I’m willing to bet AWS is very competitive.
why are you comparing California to the total population of china? China is regional too.
dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22634197

(probably this is a better source, but, that has important comments)
That seems far worse than any statistics reported so far. What is the basis for that number?
Thanks for sharing your experience. These don't sound like what I would call "flash cards" if they only have material on one side. And I'm not sure the point of loading them into Anki.
Getting a ventilator if you need it is good, but even better not to need it.
This is a great idea. The first thing that has given me hope since this set in.
It kills plenty of young people.
Maybe someone who isn’t a software engineer and doesn’t make as much as you, and maybe has a family that depends on their income?

You need to check your privilege. Working from home isn’t realistic for most people. For many, the decision is squarely between a paycheck and staying home. You’re pretty out of touch if you would call someone narcissistic or psychopathic for struggling with that.
Similar to the airlines?
There is no scenario in which we see 15 million deaths. I would like to see a single real academic you can find saying anything like that.
Exactly. Death rate in Italy is over 5% I believe. Allowing it to spread unchecked would be an unmitigated catastrophe, and the deaths certainly wouldn't be limited to the elderly. What we need to do is massively expand testing so that the lockdowns and distancing measures can be ended without allowing the virus to go back to spreading through the community.
San Diego County did most of that, and yet somehow casinos were excepted:

https://timesofsandiego.com/business/2020/03/18/tribal-leade...

National sovereignty, perhaps.
The order is vague about shopping for groceries.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-read-the-...

Given that at least one employee of a grocery store has tested positive in CA, it seems that grocery stores, where large numbers of people congregate and touch surfaces, could be a loophole to be addressed... somehow.
Completely offtopic but how the hell are those beaches in Florida not closed right now? Those idiots are going to fly home soon and insert this virus straight into their communities.
I agree, I don't want it to do any of these things either (with the exception of prefers-color-scheme and prefers-reduced-motion, which I like; however, web pages that use only one colour should not set or care about the colour at all).

Some of these things though it may be useful to have, although should be set by the user, independently of the web page entirely; the web page should not be allowed to specify these things.

Specifically, the following things could be user commands (that the web page need not know or care about whether or not it is implemented or used): Picture-in-Picture, Keyboard Lock, Pointer Lock, AirPlay, Screen Orientation (although see below for some comments), camera selection (the user would also be allowed to specify a file instead of the camera, or the user can specify to use the camera where a file is expected too), Theme Color, Badging, Chrome Sender.

Screen Orientation and Presentation Mode: In presentation mode (selectable by the user), this is a "paged screen" media rather than a "continuous screen" media; in this case, the height of one page is known to CSS and JavaScripts (this should be reported as the visible height, even if it isn't entirely visible; in normal more, Infinity should always be reported rather than the correct height), and page breaks work. The width and height may be known too (although not of the entire screen, unless it is full screen mode), but the user would lock the screen orientation using the global screen orientation locking function, if that is what is wanted. If CSS is disabled, then of course this won't work, but that is OK, since if the CSS is disabled then presumably the user doesn't want it to work, so it is OK. For displaying on a separate screen, that may be a function of the operating system anyways, and not of the web browser.

Payment Request is simply a specific case of autofill. Forms could specify autofill IDs, which are more general than this anyways, and fully controllable by the user. Credential Management could also work like this, although using HTTP authentication rather than forms/cookies would seem a better idea to me.

For sharing, the user can just copy the URL by himself; the browser might (or might not) include sharing functions for URLs, or the user may use a separate program which implements this; it is irrelevant which way is done.

Service Workers: For sending forms when internet is not available, what I wanted is the ability to save form data locally to disk and recall it later (on the same or a different webpage), entirely under the user's control; the web page should not need to know or care about this.

Game Pad and Force Touch are probably fine, although, like the keyboard and mouse, should only be enabled when the user activates it.

There are many other things too I think should be done differently.
Worth noting, it’s also possible (and quite easy) to do this vice versa. When you want a private fork of a public repo on github, it can be useful to mirror it to a private repository on GitLab. GL will keep all commits up to date for you.

(Ironically, there is nothing comparable on GitHub’s platform. You cannot make a fork that keeps itself up to date, for example.)

Here is how to do it: https://gist.github.com/milesrichardson/b00e2623e5f4427ec192...
Unless you have the military enforce the lockdown, people will eventually refuse to starve quietly in their houses and will brave the "terrifying" 1% chance of death from COVID to go back to being alive.

Honestly, with the governor this morning toying with "about 18 months", we are agreeing to give up more than 1% of our life just to reduce the risk of the 1% chance of death.

If you do order the military to enforce it, you are likely to end up with a civil war. Some people will eventually resist, and then either the army starts firing on Americans or they let people go on with their lives.

On a more personal note, the mental health cost of perfect social isolation is already getting to me, and frankly, I don't think I would survive more than a bare couple of months, even if the magic goods fairy delivered me every essential item I could ever want in infinite quantity.