skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Yeah, and at least they won't have to endure the rationing, because they were on death's doorstep already. I don't think a lot of people saying this kind of stuff are considering the deaths from an economic catastrophe.
In a way, it sounds like Gates is saying that a widespread societal lockdown is a wise move, which is what any reader of the Imperial study would conclude. Unfortunately, it seems that such a move was not politically palatable until the study's release.
Non-technical people can't begin to appreciate this problem, much less bother to solve it or even know how. Engineers need to lobby. Have you considered meeting your senator and creating a powerful coalition of interested parties to bring about legislative change? You can even recruit an economist to estimate the annual loss in economic surplus due to hardware API lock-in. Politicians often cave to narrowly interested groups that complain about a very tangible grievance (e.g. a NIMBY screaming "that building would block my view and increase traffic!") or very large corporations with a lot of resources. It doesn't have to be that way.
And if this ends in a catastrophe, there better be heads on pikes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror

Taking drastic measures for it to cause universal pain and suffering is unacceptable.
>Would anyone sane argue otherwise?

a. no need to be rude and b.

The same reason sane people drive automobiles which kill 40,000 people in this country a year[0]: the alternative can be worse.

How many people do you figure are going to get rolled back into poverty at 15% world GDP loss?

[0]Less this year I suppose.
At the risk of beating a dead horse, are the numbers coming out of China trustworthy?

We know for a fact there were some early suppression of the outbreak, so it wouldn't be too much to speculate that they're under-reporting new cases and/or over-reporting recoveries.

Even if so, there's the problem that totalitarian, high-control societies like China have tools to deal with these kinds of problems that other societies do not.. to put it lightly.
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(not not an epidemiologist, just interested)

Once testing becomes widespread enough that it's feasible to test a lot more people it's quite plausible to relax the restrictions. One big problem before the recent "shelter in place" state is that community transmission by asymptomatic people was/is out of control.

If only strongly symptomatic people are "allowed" to be tested and health care professions aren't tested, it's basically impossible to restrict spread of something as infectious as covid-19. And once people with a lot of contacts have it, and stay in contact, further spread will obviously accelerate.

If you look at the buildup of test capacity in the US (far far to late obviously), it's improving at a decent rate (from a totally embarrassing starting point):

https://covidtracking.com/us-daily/

(there's a lot of differening sources, several lagging, but the trend is similar afaictl)

So there finally does appear to be some serious and successful effort in building up test capacity. Testing everyone in the US seems far off still though.

Given the rates of hospitalization and available beds / respirators, it'd however be insane to rely on testing at this point. Spread would be far too fast, and there's obviously not enough testing.

But if infections slow down due to the isolation, and testing ramps up at the same time...
The material op is referring to is in the appendix.
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A virus isn't comparable to people hijacking planes and flying them into buildings.

For one thing, it should be easy to prevent the latter whereas it's far from clear whether there's much we can do about the former.
Well they're talking and arguing about it at least.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ny-gov-cuomo-says-no-ne...
THERE IS NO DOOR OR OTHER VISIBLE ENTRANCE.

YOU SEE A LARGE SNAKE EMERGING OUT OF THE STREAM.
HTML didn't harbour presentation information.

That's not entirely true. Even ignoring the elements that were explicitly about formatting and have since been deprecated, the order and nesting of elements could have a profound effect.

For example, the entire model for how to do layout using CSS floats fundamentally depended on the order of elements in the source HTML document. It wasn't until much later that CSS finally added tools like flexbox and grid where you could explicitly reorder the content from multiple source elements in the rendered output using CSS alone.

Even today, certain effects such as column-based formatting for a table are much easier to specify in CSS if your HTML has additional elements such as <colgroup> included, yet there is little reason to include such elements in the markup except to support that kind of formatting.
I thought so too then I did the calculations and realized it could be larger if Italy's death rates transfer.
I think the rethink just needs to address the need for uncorrelated redundancy. And yep, that's more expensive than the current mode of operations.
Cool it Django. Big numbers hide little numbers.

The numbers that matter are local numbers surrounding you. No leader will tell you that cause they want obedience.
For awhile now I've felt that the CSS libraries like Bootstrap, Semantic UI, etc are never the "right" way to organize your markup and CSS for a large project. They're great for getting out something quick and dirty that looks decent. But once your project passes a certain scale (in size or time spent maintaining it), the balance shifts in favor of semantic markup and style in CSS using BEM or something similar as an organizational paradigm. The latter just doesn't seem conducive to off-the-shelf styles because semantic organization is different for every project.

Another way of thinking about it is that CSS libraries build infrastructure for universal reusable widgets. In the beginning of a project it makes sense to build your app by putting together these building blocks. But as time goes by and the app grows, you start to develop a layer of higher level UI abstractions that are specific to the domain of your app. And when that happens it is often in conjunction with some kind of a re-styling and the old universal building blocks are no longer what you want. I've seen multiple large frontend projects go through these phases, and am starting to see them as a natural evolution of frontend projects.
Yeah, but then it's not something "your work won't pay for".
Yes, the Amiga had preemptive multitasking, but no memory protection, and the situation wasn't really any better. A single rogue process could bring down the whole system by overwriting parts of the OS.
I believe copper will kill off this one in about 4-5 hours, compared to the 10+ hours of other materials. Not super useful as a hand sanitizer, but nice to know a copper door handle has a nice longer term self cleaning over shorter time frames.
While it's great news that India's justice system has delivered swift and appropriate justice in this case, I fail to see how this belongs on HN...
Yes. But you can't expect to eradicate the disease. As measures are lifted cases start growing exponentially again.
>What is up with this obsession with testing?

Partially because of the idea that South Korea tested its way to safety. While its true that heavy testing was a key part of their containment plan, it also relied on a lot of investigative work, etc. It's also too late in the US since we already had uncontrolled and undetected community spread.

Partially because the US government screwed up the testing capacity. So people are overly valuing testing because its an easy way to assign blame. People love an oversimplified cause to a disaster because it makes life seem less random.
I get 'The beta is full' when clicking on the TestFlight link.
Browsers need better and more usable permissions (and less leakage). Every API that's added is another attack vector.
There's nothing in that tweet or the thread its a part of that suggests the authors don't understand the seriousness of asking for a shut down. It also doesn't suggest they wouldn't support exceptions for all the hardworking people who can't work remotely.

So why link to it? Even if it wasn't your intention, it seems like the primary effect would be to direct abuse towards the author of the linked tweet.
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screw your business, millions of lives are at stake here.
Switch to using personal accounts instead of having shared loginS. That goes against all security best practices (and GDPR) also. Use this opportunity to bring your things in order
Lowering peak low enough for our medical system for long enough is the real fantasy. If you plug the numbers in the model you’ll see that it will take 10 years or until vaccines are ready which will also take years.

You need tests to backtrack and force isolate the sick. This waiting it out shit won’t cut it
You are not allowed to employ a live out nanny unless you are in an essential occupation. (At least that was in the Bay area orders)
There was a juvenile involved (17 year old) who apparently did some of the worst of the crimes. He is now roaming free after 3 years in a rehab facility (not prison) - with identity masked.
Thanks for all the references. I also couldn't find any explicit guidance around "outdoor exercise" that was as clear as the SF order.

I do also agree that the video you reference implies that the CA-wide order allows the same sorts of things (Newsom references "walking your dog") but hopefully there is more explicit guidance.
They're working on some pretty fast testing. Before being shut in for 18 months they'll probably develop a policy of weekly standard tests for the population, and require proof of a recent test to do anything in public.
I do agree there were too many identical combat shrines, I was always disappointed when I found one of them, but did you try to get all the chests as well? Most shrines had one or more optional chests that basically acted as "hard mode" and your minimap reported which shrines you'd found all the chests in too.

The ideas in the shrines definitely could have been expanded on more though for sure.
Even the most short sighted of society will recognize a need when their family starts dieing.

Trouble that takes two weeks. Sadly many Americans have trouble planning several days ahead.
Not terrible considering state population is roughly 39,560,000. It'll be interesting to see how this goes the illegal alien communities.
As long as the candidate had reached the age of majority, yes, I'd be fine with the few minimum age restrictions that exist being removed. In the 18th century information spread slowly and very unevenly. If a 20 year old wants to run for the Senate and the people of their state want to be represented by a 20 year old, I'm fine with that. There's no hiding that a 20 year old is 20 years old.
That's a questionable assumption. Lots of business are basically being ordered to go bankrupt.
Trying to estimate if we're overreacting at the beginning/middle of a pandemic is absolutely trying to stir shit up. We can't reasonably know until much closer to the end.
The other thing is that panic is bad, panic leads to much much worse outcomes. I've read the report, and I have access to non-disclosed orders, one of the major point is: do not spread too much information for risk of panics.

So we're all discussing this, and if you've read the report you already know more than most people, and we know that the truth is in the middle.

But what we should really think about as clever individuals is that whatever is going to happen this year, and however long the lockdowns are going to be: it has to happen in order.
Couldn't find it offhand (on mobile), but here's some research on api usage https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2019/javascript

The httparchive could provide insights on any api afaik.
Yes, information has a role everywhere, but the article only mentions a telegram and "nobody knows about these women". What did I miss?
I'm going to go ahead and say going outside should still be permissible (at least right now).
For exactly the same reason as you can't report an item as counterfeit on return. They have no intention of fixing.
Didn't NY (Cuomo) argue that their restrictions are almost exactly the same as California's? In fact, in what way is NY more permissive at this point?
Remember the War?
Using the billion figure best case is 40 million not accounting for which countries would be hit the hardest which would increase the rate as the systems get overwhelmed.
The people with immunity will be a critical asset. They can work grocery stores and delivery services.
> Does it though? Is there such thing as a low-trade programmer?

I am not implying that programming is low trade.

It's just nowadays, some people's perception of that term is being a code monkey.
The top comment above, for example. I think people are generally terrible at understanding exponential growth & systemic vs. one-off risk.
Not really, Steam Machines were just a PCs running Linux at a time when Linux was in a far worse state for gaming than they are now (and almost all of Steam Machines produced either had weak Intel-based graphics or AMD GPUs when their drivers were still woefully broken). There was never any standard for hardware or even controller and most machines were overpriced, ugly, huge or all of that.

So of course they flopped.

Steam Machines should have used standardized hardware (even if it was in terms of "levels" like "entry level" or "high end level"), software and peripherals the developers could rely on and Valve should have made sure that the hardware actually fit their respective levels.

But Valve never did that and while they still slowly update SteamOS, they have been long sidetracked by VR so there are low chances for them trying a second time.
> The USA never suffered casualties of 1+mil ever.

Proportionately speaking, that estimate is on par with the amount of American deaths per total population during WW2 and something like 1/7 the American deaths per total population during the civil war.
Because agriculture and importing are deemed of vital importance and allowed to stay open.
I’m sure the EFF know what they’re doing but I feel like this just creates more confusion from a marketing standpoint.

The EFFs messaging could be something short and sweet like “selling insights is selling data” and letting people know that an ad agency telling Google “show this ad to people who just got home from work” isn’t any less creepy than Google just giving the ad agency people’s schedules.
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Do you still drive a car?
Until deepfakes become more sophisticated. We have a serious problem on our hands, that we will probably need to solve as much with social and pyschological system retools as with technological ones.
> Humanity never eradicated a disease without a vaccine.

SARS within the last 2 decades? Look, I think eradication is a pipe dream at this point, but it'd be worth mildly checking your facts before posting.

e: If I'm getting flagged, at least tell me why?
https://covid19.ca.gov/
Do the math for your neighborhood or county and you will sleep better.

State numbers and national numbers for anything can freak anyone out if they dont deal with large numbers day in day out. Big numbers hide small numbers distributed all over the map.

Plug in numbers for India or China and it's not complicated to produce helplessness and heatattacks.
Link...

31 questions and answers about COVID-19

https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/A-coronavirus-AMA
This democrat hoax is getting really out of hand /s.
> What can’t a browser do these days?

Detect that you’re paying for bandwidth and not autoplay video.
Testing leads to panic. The threat number one to the US economy is panic. Whatever happens next, panic is much much more damaging for the economy and for stability.

There's already a plan in place, and most people don't know it but there's already a timeline. At this point testing people is useless: hospitals already provide numbers to the government.
My back of the napkin math indicates that roughly 2x as many people will die in the US this year.

Normal deaths are 2.8M/year.

There's 330M people in the US. At 70% infection, that's 230M people. At 1% mortality, that's 2.3M excess deaths.

That's 80% of the normal deaths for a year; and since other causes of death haven't stopped... we get 180% for the year, or "twice as many".
>> Humans do it really well with just two cameras. It's not a hardware problem; it is entirely software

We don't fully know how the human hardware works either. Or rather, we don't fully know how the human hardware + software works.
The main culprit mohammed afroze was technically a 'juvenile' (some two months away from turning 18) so he was let off with just 6 months juvenile prison sentence. so from 2013 he is free. This led to a public outrage and laws were amended to consider 16 as the age cutoff for henious crimes to classify as a 'juvenile'. but they are not applied retrospectively.
what a fucking piece of shit - fuck this asshole - impeach his fucking ass right now!!
This isn't too surprising. At one time NASCAR considered making esports another racing circuit so they're already familiar with the subject.

I don't have cable so I can't check for myself. Anyone know what is ESPN covering now? Obscure sports leagues from low population density countries?
A lot of those jobs are exempted as essential workers. Even residential housing construction workers are exempted.
Previous thread about map: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22623955 - probably worth repeating any worthwhile comments again here though since not many previously.
No, the projection assumes no measures at all are taken - not even the ones that already have been.

"Newsom’s request said 56 percent of California’s population, a whopping 25.5 million people, would be infected over an eight-week period. A governor spokesperson later clarified the projection included zero mitigation efforts such as the Bay Area’s shutdown of non-essential businesses to decrease contact between residents."

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/03/19/gov-newsom-56-percent-...
Civil War comes close, ~ 600,000 - 850,000. And about 13 years of reconstruction.
The real-time noise suppression seems like a really neat idea if it works well. Opening a chip bag or typing on a loud keyboard is one thing, but I wonder how it would handle intermittent or one-off noises like opening a pop can?
The tests require processing in complicated machines that have limited capacity. This isn’t happening.
Car accidents do not pose systemic risk, a super contagious virus with a fatality rate of ~1-2% definitely does. I think a misunderstanding of this phenomenon (risk comes in different flavors!!) combined with an inability to grok exponential growth is really gonna screw us over, both in the next few months and more generally as a species.
You quoted 5%. I was just using your (arguable extremely low) infection rate.
Not sure why this is getting voted down, this is absolutely the case. Either you kill exponential growth via isolation/inoculation or damn near everyone gets sick in an exponential explosion and the healthcare system is overrun. This is simple statistics.
Which is why I said "and scale up medical capacity" (and unspoken but of course: yes, there will be hundreds of thousands of deaths at the minimum, even with these measures)

> You need tests to backtrack and force isolate the sick. This waiting it out shit won’t cut it

You can only test and isolate if you first institute quarantine measures. Even after instituting quarantine measures, we still will unlikely be able to prevent an eventual resurgence of the disease.

From everything I've read, there's no path out of this that doesn't involve either:

a. shelter & scaling up critical care

b. at least a million people in the US dead
> Why do people think that waiting 2 weeks or 2 months will solve it?

Who said it will solve it? It will flatten the curve as it already has in other countries, hopefully avoiding a catastrophic overload of the healthcare system.
For those who wouldn't click the URL, I just want to state that the good doctor died at 96 possibly due to old age related complications and this story has nothing to do with COVID-19.
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I've read that it couldn't. Those kits were never offered to the US: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/health/who-coronavirus-tests-...
FUCK THESE LIBERAL FUCKS!

GUNS, GOLD, MOTHER FUCKING FREEDOM!
Lives are at stake from people losing their livelihood as well though, you need to weigh up the effects of the virus vs basically shutting down the economy.

Of course if half of Americans didn't deride any sort of safety net as communism the situation might be less uncertain.
This is a great move, but I'm not sure how this will hold up unless the state seals its border. If the entire country doesn't follow suite, is that the next step?
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Curious to hear anyone's experience with RPC over Nameko in Python. We use it extensively on top of RabbitMQ and its been pretty robust.
The money they are proposing won't cover a single month of rent in California.
It's clear everyone saying "a test for every American!" has never worked with PCR before.
What is “a lot?”

Datapoint: When $company hit very high six figures (closing in on seven) in monthly spend I found AWS was incredibly willing to cut our egress rates, often by a significant amount.

This was explained by our account team: bandwidth has some of the best margins for AWS but they’re willing to sacrifice that for their enterprise customers (read: suck us in closer to non-commodity services)
> A virus isn't comparable to people hijacking planes and flying them into buildings.

Being dead is absolutely comparable with being dead though, no matter what lead there. It's the absence of a person that matters, to the people who miss them, not what people removed from that think about it in the abstract.

I lost my father through a completely stupid accident, made possible through carelessness on his behalf I think. If he had been murdered by someone, I would have felt a lot of hate, and that would have sucked and damaged me no doubt -- but the grief of missing someone is still the same, and I'd say the difference between murder and an accident are both tiny pebbles compared to a person being gone. Even if he had died to save 1000 million people, I would miss him exactly the same.
After Opera was bought out by some Chinese company I wont ever install it on my machine unless they fully open source and I can install from said source.
It looks like the number of deaths per day hasn't really been growing in the past ~5 days. That's somewhat comforting.
My Chinese suppliers in Shenzhen have been back to work for a while now.
IMO it's a mistake to bring it up so quickly. Most people (and especially those downvoting this post :-) aren't very bright even under the normal circumstances, let alone in a full blown panic, they'll think that this is how many infections we're getting, whereas in fact those infections were already out there, we just couldn't confirm them. Some will conclude (likely incorrectly) that the current distancing measurements aren't doing jack shit.