skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
We had to remove products containing any and all references to Cuba and Egypt from our Shopify store to avoid PayPal suspending our account. All of the products are American made, produced in the US with local ingredients. For example, a raw flavour compound called “Cubano Style” or an eliquid brand called “The Great Pyramids” (fictional examples but in line with the real products.)

Only the thing was that PayPal wouldn’t actually confirm exactly what was triggering their automated system, we had to infer that ourselves by looking for commonalities between the flagged payments. Even when we identified the problem they refused to give any confirmation at all other than to re-enable our account.
You’re dancing around my question: what would you do right now with what you have available right now?

Just let 5% of your population die and tell the rest to get back to work, restaurants, vacation?
The definition of a necessity is that you cant live without it.
Well, only one way to find out, right?
In California we’re under emergency price gouging restrictions. If you raise the price of something by more than 10%, you get fined and/or go to jail.

(That’s not what happened with this drug though. They previously rose the price, and lowered it back to the original price due to Coronavirus.)
Had a week long freak out from it.
Apparently mild stimulant can magnify if your on other stimulants.

Amazing drug otherwise. My autoimmune symptoms have greatly reduced on it. Wish I could take the full dose.
Reasonable compliance with social distancing from 25% of the population has a huge impact on the slope of the curve.

Of course better compliance from larger numbers of people has even more impact, but it's not a binary condition.

That said, we probably aren't doing enough to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, or to even push that very far into the future.
It is time to declare war. We need to move to a war economy and get on with what needs to be done.
This is like saying, if you are in credit card debt and not prepared for a disaster, you are on your own. While this is true, this logic simply doesn't work in aggregate because the status quo is millions of people are in debt. Similarly, most small businesses operate with very little operating cash flow, and that is simply how our economy operates.
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Better solution:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YbtJGn7ida2IYNgwCFk3Sjhs...

We can shelter-in-place as long as needed. And no businesses go under, and no one loses their home.
It depends heavily on the SAT subject test. Math II, for instance, is heavily curved and anyone with a solid understanding of high school math and their calculator should have no problem getting an 800. But I'm not sure if the same is true for all of the tests in the humanities and social sciences.
This appears to be an appeal by Womply to direct a ton of stimulus money toward them, so that they can make loans to small businesses (instead of the Small Business Administration), and then they can take a cut of that.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/coronavirus-tsa-...

A lot of things that we took as immutable facts of life in the US are actually arbitrary and unnecessary restrictions on free movement or trade that are designed to force you to pay for things unnecessarily or destroy free markets and unfairly protect incumbents/institutions.

Example: I’m low on contact lenses. Without being able to see, I can’t work.

In the US, contact lenses are for sale by prescription only(!). I had my office ship a few boxes I had left over in Germany, as it is both impossible to go to Germany as well as impossible to safely visit the local office in the US to which one must pay $150 to get the piece of paper to be allowed to purchase what is an uncontrolled item in almost every other country in the world.

FedEx has blocked the shipment, demanding a prescription, which does not exist.

Who is this benefitting? Who is being protected from which harms by these laws?

I don’t even drink alcohol and I think that liquor sales licensing is insane, especially when coupled with the OUTRAGEOUS list of additional restrictions they are allowed to place on businesses just because they serve alcohol some of the time (the restrictions the state gets to apply to the biz are 24/7). jwz’s extensive documentation on the CA ABC’s tyranny is an especially good example.
The entire Emergency Alert System for the US is bizarre. Onsolve and GovDelivery totally dominate it. They seem to have barely any engineering talent on LinkedIn.

GovDelivery, I think the same as Granicus, has always been plagued by mass spamming accusations. This comes up on reddit occasionally.

Either way, the video streaming servers, they are just what Elemental Technologies offered before they were (super allegedly) hacked by the PLA to get at Apple and Amazon in the Bloomberg article last year...
Sure, but if what you say is accurate, it wouldn't matter. Once people started dying by the thousand, even if they're all old, governments would be forced to lock stuff down. And even if they didn't, the economy would be hosed.
i dont think that s fair. in an efficient market, profit margins are slim for the benefit of the consumer, which means businesses are not super profitable and need to invest continuously.
So let's cancel any sort of response, as you propose. What do the next two weeks, two months, etc. look like? I think it's the human condition to least try, but I can entertain the reality that some Americans just aren't for social distancing and of that segment, some will become superspreaders.
people who are very good at C or C++ will be able to learn Rust pretty quickly yes.
People who LIKE C probably won't like Rust though. Its more like C++.
Can you print economic output though? Printing dollars only works when there are things to buy and sell. More money and less things to use it on only makes the money less useful (inflation). Usually the economy can absorb that extra supply pretty well to the point of being insignificant, but that doesn't work when you just stop said economy.

Also, how do you think we will be able to support and help those more vulnerable if we don't have any economic output? Will printing money make supplies appear from nowhere?
As a counterpoint, Illinois just ordered residents to shelter-in-place after closing schools and restaurants a week ago and our new cases of COVID-19 aren't accelerating upward as of today. This model also predicts far fewer deaths with shelter-in-place rules: https://covidactnow.org/state/IL

As governor Pritzker said: "I fully recognize I am choosing between saving people's lives and saving people's livelihoods, but ultimately you can't have a livelihood if you don't have a life."
As you say, we have many patients already in our ICUs who need ventilation, but aren’t /difficult/ to ventilate.

Perhaps they could get the split ventilators and the COVID-19 patients could get their own?
All this can be solved with changing the settings. Trolls on the Internet are on every platform, and public Zoom calls are now a target. Just change the settings.
Rust has more safety features and better runtime performance. So either or both of those reasons.
Did you miss the part about small businesses?
The damage of not minimising spread starts with an overwhelmed medical system
A pixel is one view for their model if I understand correctly, so one hundred 100x100 images would be a million views.
Congress declares war. Think WWII.

Edit. Thanks to the wonders of HC I can’t reply to you so I have edited this post. The declaration of war is symbolic in one way, but it captures what needs to be done. The entire economy needs to be swung around to getting this pandemic under control as quickly as possible.

Once war is declared we can start conscripting people to do the things that need to be done like enforce curfews, do door to door testing, build hospitals, keep people fed, etc, etc.

We are going to end up at this point anyway, so we might as well do it now and save lives and the economy.
Yes you can. You can refer to most engineers as engineers even if they don't have a professional engineering license in Canada.
He likely founded the association that sold accreditations.
But that’s not REAL engineering! You are only moving numbers around.
" then it’s likely that your business was running on a knifes edge and /any/ shock would have killed it."

Welcome to... life? This is how America or even the world works. Most people live on knife's edge. One missed paycheck? Homelessness just got its greasy hands on you. Two missed paychecks? Go pack what you have left... Most business are not any different, especially those run by regular people.

In my family we have a quite successful business in the sense that the person running it, has quite a fancy lifestyle and can afford it. But you have to realize that most business have terrible margins. Our family business has maybe a margin of 10%. That means, for every 10.000$ you take home before taxes every month, your business has running expenses of about 100.000$ per month. Now restaurants are all closed... Nobody will buy your stuff anymore, but your employess still need to get paid. So now you have those 100.000$ monthly costs and not a single dime coming in... There is no reasonable expectation to save this much buffer.

In short, even business that run extremely well, will die within A MONTH, if all expenses continue and no income is generated. This is why I think what they are doing for this petty virus is quite insane. They are destroying the middle class for some "theoretical" projection that might not even play out the way they think. What is guaranteed though is that businesses will die in troves and the economy and middle class with it.
But must order food with the booze to go.
Everything is related. Imagine if the market only dropped a bit, large companies could support their employees, the credit markets wouldnt require massive trillion dollar spending. Supporting small businesses would be a walk in the park.
I'm not disagreeing with you but is it illegal for a CEO to be bad at their job?
Disambiguated source: https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-bril...
have a look around github

the breadcrumbs start here:

https://gist.github.com/MrYar/751e0e5f3f1430db7ec5a8c8aa237b...

https://github.com/search?q=spoof+telemetry

if you know how to do a web search do that.
if you cant then sorry about the luck.
Traditionally it implies sacrifice, on both the individual and collective levels, to achieve a larger goal or to fight an existential threat. But American civilians haven't really been called upon to sacrifice anything in wartime since WWII.

It won't be long before there's no one left alive who remembers mandatory rationing, price and wage controls, and production mandates.
> This is a huge disparity from web development workflows where file watchers are prevalent—you save a file and instantly see the results of the change.

> Pigweed’s pw_watch module solves this inefficiency directly, providing a watcher that automatically invokes a build when a file is saved, and also runs the specific tests affected by the code changes. This drastically reduces the edit-compile-flash-test cycle for changes.

Eh, no thanks. Web dev environments can get away with this because the turnaround time is so quick, but even a medium sized embedded C++ project can easily take minutes to build, plus 30+ seconds to download, even with a debugger.

Please don't try to bring webdev workflows into the embedded space. This isn't javascript.
I was just talking to my mechanic by text at middlefield & n shoreline at the Arco on the southwest corner, just across 101 from the Googleplex. He may have to permanently close his business and get a regular job because his landlord will demand rent when there are no customers.

A similar situation is happening to Louis Rossmann who doesn't have business interruption insurance because they require flood insurance and weasel out of covering disasters.

Another situation is Michael Moore's nonprofit movie theaters won't be reimbursed to pay or govt pay their employees' salaries, and building lease/rent.

Also, tip-based workers are screwed too.

Only 20% of workers are getting some money, with a little promise of temporary UBI to some people.

And then the government has the gall to offer interest-bearing loans instead of no interest loans and grants? WTF!

The situation is there will be people working to put food on the table sick or not, and riots if people aren't made whole. The US economy will crash and burn for decades if this isn't handled correctly by clawing back some of the tens of trillions the MIC, corporations, and the rich stole from the little guys and regular folks.
It’s illegal to be bad at many jobs in certain ways. Companies need more regulation that results in personal accountability.
Its protecting the upper middle class medical workers who look after themselves and create monopolies and restrictions.
Thats fine, but as things are right now, we're short on beds in a few places, and are wasting beds everywhere else. Seems like a waste of the precious resources to me.
The problem will be how long the shelter in place can be maintained; as long as you have folks coming in infected from other states, once the mass quarantine is lifted, outbreaks will flare up.

This only ends with a vaccine and enough people recovered after infection we arrive near enough herd immunity. Until then this will have to burn through populations. Regardless, I can appreciate and support Pritzker’s response, and efforts to “flatten the curve”. It’s an unfortunate situation with no clear path to success.
Realistically, yes, but strictly speaking PDFs start with a footer and most PDF readers will accept highly corrupt files.
Agree, would love to see this as a blog post!
May I remind you that the doctor that does in china was 30 years old. This disease does not just kill old people.

Secondly, let's do this mental experiment, let the disease spread - how do you expect society to function, nevermind economy, if ~5 % of the population is dying of pneumonia and 30% are severely ill. I doubt you'll be able to get served as Starbucks.
I think that may have been true at some point, but I believe only the Dart language team is there now. Could definitely be wrong though.
It's not really possible for the market to drop only a little bit in response to half the economy shutting down. Stock prices are an expectation of future cash flows, so they have to drop on news that a huge chunk of those future cash flows are cancelled.
A good indirect example is an actual feature added to JS recently, which are classes. Classes are the main unit of OOP, while functions are the main unit in the functional paradigm. The class syntax in JS is not a real new structure added to the language, but just syntax sugar. Underneath it all, the JS compiler just converts it to a regular JS function using a specific pattern. You could, if you wanted, save the compiler that work by just coding using that pattern to begin with.

When using TS the class syntax fits in perfectly for me, an in pure JS I'd stick to functions.
Maybe talk about the app, and why HNers should care (I say this in a nice way) ?
There's nothing wrong with people that are living together going for a walk together, it won't particularly increase their exposure.

People should cooperate and keep distance, but it's not a big deal to just be outside a reasonable distance from small numbers of other people.
It was on NBC news two nights ago that the virus does not infect you through eyes or blood. It can only infect and replicate in the lungs. So only nose and mouth if that report was correct.
I have to think that as a society, we’re going to be introducing a lot of slack that never existed before. Consider commercial real estate: there are going to be loads of small businesses that can’t make rent in the next 3 months... but from a landlord’s perspective, it probably doesn’t make sense to terminate the lease (or hound the business into bankruptcy or something), because who the hell else are they going to get to rent the place?
I'd rather long lines today when very few people are infected, than having lines tomorrow when many people are infected. We can sacrifice a little R0 when the base population of infected is small to get a smaller R0 when the base population is large.
Italy police using riot control vehicles to water roadside flowers
Coronavirus is not a good argument for quitting cash
The goal is to delay and fit into the number of bed and the logistic stuff in hospital.

If a person get good care in hospital the rate of survival would be totally different.

For those country which had sudden high fatality rate was because their resources and supplies were exhausted - there were no bed, no consumable, even no protection for the nurses.
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1) the stock market is collapsing because business cashflows are collapsing 2) the collapse has barely begun
> We don’t actually know how lethal, but it appears 1%-3%, but without widespread testing we wouldn’t know.

That’s the fatality rate within a functioning medical system. It’s safe to assume that if the virus is uncontrolled the rate will be substantially higher.
The way modern memory works linked lists are practically a denial of service attack on system performance. IMO, like goto’s it’s better to just forget they exist.
Especially when the people who do are the ones most at risk of dying from the virus. Every day we delay increases those that will die by 40%.
Look at Boeing stock.

Companies dropping 50% because they miss 3 months of revenue?
Even if you take an extremely high estimate of the currently infected in the US, you're probably in the low 100s of thousands of people, approx <0.1% of the country. So to say it's "likely too late" is just crazy - 99.9% of the country is not yet infected.
> The stock market is largely collapsing because:

I'm gonna go with:

0) A pandemic has caused the government to shut down a double-digit percentage of the economy.
I bet googling the band name just gives results for Pale Fire by Nabokov these days.
The virus is terrible. But our solution could turn into an economic catastrophe. It simply isn't possible to shut down the economy and then pay people, businesses to sit idle for an undetermined amount of time.

The solution is aggressive, continuous testing so that people can feel safe going back out.

1. Make hundreds and millions of the rapid tests available.
2. Deploy them to every business, every institution.
3. Test everybody coming into work every morning.
4. Isolate and quarantine the positive ones.
5. Elderly and immunocompromised self-quarantine.

Lets find the actual contours of this infection within the population. And then squeeze it down.

- Want to get into a theme park? You need a negative test result on your phone from this morning.

- You got tested at one of the thousands of mobile test stations. You received a code with your test.

- 15 minutes later, you get a test result on your phone - also sent to a national database in real time.

- The theme park worker scans your phone and validates the result.

This is not a fool-proof system. But it or something like it will instantly reduce anxiety of people trying to work.

If you knew that everyone at your coffee house, at your gym, in your lecture hall, etc. tested negative in the morning. You'd feel safer and we'd all be able to move forward.
Hard to have a war economy when winning the war means shutting your economy down.
“Normal” as in the normalization of deviance is defined as: The gradual process through which unacceptable practice or standards become acceptable.
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I agree with your first paragraph. On the second, I would think a moderately successful therapeutic protocol would go a long way to quickly getting us out of the houses. A vaccine is too long a time away to count on; there won’t be an economy left by then.
The Pandemic Danger Is Social Collapse
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I wouldn't say it's lethal, at least not for everyone. The last report from Italy has stats on 2000 deaths. No deaths under age of 30 and only a few under 50, all with pre-existing health conditions. Women's median age close to 84. Men's 80. And vast majority of deaths are people with multiple pre-existing health conditions.
Not enough, all the simulations show we’d need to basically reduce our number of interactions a day by 75% and double the number of ventilators by 100% to “stay under the curve” that’s if we didn’t have a huge number of celebrations and people in lines, etc.

Projections are 500k dead by June. Maybe with the precautions we can slow the millions dead by the end of the year. It remains to be seen.
That was a good article. But of course it didn't cover everything.

Japanese tend to be extremely health conscious and in general take better care of themselves than many other developed countries, though there are exceptions (like high rate of smoking). So it's entirely possible that more people were indeed infected but could have contacted a mild version that wasn't counted in the statistics.

Second, there is a culture of wearing masks. From what I can find, surgical masks don't really prevent you from getting infected. But maybe they prevent you from infecting others. Wish there was more concrete info on that one.

Third, many things are closed in Japan now, if not to the degree that they are in Europe and the US, so there is more isolation than the article would have you believe. For example, Tokyo Disney, Sanrio Puroland, schools, sports events being held without audiences. I belong to a Buddhist temple whose Head Temple is in Japan. They are restricting if not eliminating attendance during the crisis. I didn't see that rapid of a response in Christian churches where I live; in fact, I remember at least one news report of a pastor at a local church encouraging his congregation to get close to each other because God would heal/protect them from the virus. At the beginning of March, in contrast, our Chief Priest told us he would really prefer we not come to our temple now because of the situation.

I do travel to Japan regularly, so I have some knowledge of the culture. Don't claim to be an expert, though. But I really wish there was more of an effort with Covid 19 to keep it under control - I really support and cooperate with the social distancing, but also really wish we would do more to look at how to prevent spread and lessen severity in more sustainable ways. I have my theories on that, but they might be a bit controversial and as a new user here I probably shouldn't go there.
Why income limits? Would it not be easier and faster to just adjust marginal tax rates and simply give everyone money right now?
> How many hundreds of thousands or millions of preventable deaths are acceptable to you for a faster bounceback of the economy?

This is a really good question, because a dead economy is deadly too, and a shutdown is particularly hard on the people who can afford it least.

Normal Quality-Adjusted-Year-of-Life estimates are $50,000-$150,000. If this is a good estimate then ideally our economic shutdown won't pay much more than that overall; if we pay much more as a society, we have probably gone too far.

(And of course it feels bad to put a dollar value on a human life, so not everyone will want to do that. This doesn't change that we have to make this decision, though, it just means that we make our decision blindly and harm people more than we ought.)
People are completely underestimating how much leverage and pumping there was on those companies, and how thats effecting us now. Companies dropping 75% because they might lose 3 months of revenue is not an expected outcome.
This appears to be a very ungenerous reading of the slide deck. This is a time everyone needs to pitch in and do what needs to be done.
He's saying it isn't true based on customer complaints on Twitter.
Age and Social Vulnerability in the Context of Coronavirus