skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Do we actually have evidence that this quarantining is possible or working?
Is it? Contrast it with retail rents in the same neighborhood: https://nypost.com/2019/05/14/nyc-retail-rents-showing-signs...
There are patients that are even negative on multiple test runs. Each measurement is not an independent measurement. We can't really solve this problem by testing multiple times, even if the measurements are spread in time.

The point is, testing everyone may be useful in slowing spread-- may be able to prove people as infectious and needing isolation. But it is not useful in proving people safe.
> One of the biggest advantages is that the config language is an actual programming language (Ruby). All the other systems started with language that was missing things like loops, and they have slowly grafted on programming language features. It is so much nicer to use an actual programming language.

This is the most important thing I've learned from using all of the mentioned options, as well as older options like cfengine. Please make it easy to work in an actual programming language instead of an unholy mix of yaml and jinja! I think Ruby excels for this, as well as Clojure or a Scheme, because it's so easy to write "internal" DSLs.
Many of your suggestions are ineffective and counterproductive. I hope people listen to better sources of information.
I always thought those were phrases for.

"Look we don't want to go into the specifics of what did or didn't happen and hell we might not even know .... but here's the bad news...".
This ignores the risk of spreading the virus to other populations.
You are ignoring the fact that there are official calls to suspend all non-emergency surgery and that there are a lot of hospitals already doing this. My comment was meant informative, not to put that person down.

Your strawman is ignored.
Does the IoT version track everything you do and cram ads down your throat like the regular version of Win 10?
Urgent is a term that is materially different from emergency in hospital parlance. I was laid up for a week with an 'urgent' surgery pending (twice!) because I kept being bumped by emergencies who needed it still much more than I did.
Medium has paywalled me. Any non-paywall links?
With regards to the need for flattening even more, I totally agree. But I think you are under the impression that the y axis in this model can simulate the real world. That's not the case. This is a "super simplified model" to show the effect of simple changes - relative to other scenarios, not necessary being an absolute measure.

The close circle size is the family/close friend size. In actual scientific models, this is a decimal value to represent the average of the community, but in this model, I kept it as a whole number to simplify my calculations. If I get a chance, I'll improve this further.

Anything that falls into more than 150 days is way beyond any sane model can predict. Cutting the "Random Contact" to 1 greatly drops the rate for at least 150 days - this is exactly the point of this model on showing how important it is to reduce social interactions.
Much of the herd will comply. Many others will make their stand, especially with the current state of sentiment In the right wing population.
'may be hot spots that develop in the US'

You're kidding right? Under what conditions that things are fine are you preposing? If you're not taking this serious, and in the US, you're definitely part of the problem. That attitude, statistics aside, is going to get people killed.
Netflix tries to make you "engage" with it more than intended and hence it seems to be a feature that items go missing, everything takes a long time to navigate to and the appearance of thumbnails change. Its literally designed to get in your way so you have to run a gauntlet. Its like how they put junk food near the checkout in supermarkets... it's also trying to make it seem like there is more variety and choice than in actuality. Really looking forward to some 3rd party way to navigate Netflix that has less of these dark patterns.
Well, you don't have to. There are plenty of actual epidemiologists unhappy with the government's actions. Just because Pueyo was arbitrarily chosen to represent one side doesn't mean professional support for that side doesn't exist.

Honestly, choosing a bad representative for a position is a classic media tactic for unfairly discrediting that position.
Why do people ever fly? Something like a quarter of people who travel by air contract a respiratory infection from doing so. It's an extremely effective way to spread disease.
Sorry, DO was never considered in the same class as "true" cloud providers like AWS, GCP, or Azure. DO is primarily a VPS provider with some other services. It is in the same class as Linode and perhaps Vultr.
It's harder to specialise, takes more effort. Being a generalist is easier specially if you are charismatic. When we try to measure a correlation between success and specialisation, how good one is at it and its value to the economy is an important factor.

Take software for example. There are highly specialised software that costs a lot for a licence while general software like an office suite goes for 5 bucks a month...
I don't know if this is modern UI or just plainly stupid UI, but recently I had to use the Riot messenger web app and I was looking for the page to show the device/encryption/fingerprint information. I tried to find it in the room-settings which is where it used to be, but no not there. Then I looked in the main settings, also not there. Looked over and over again. In their attempt to simplify the Riot UI, they placed that information inside the chat bubble's settings and only there. Right, the only way to get to it now is to right click any chat bubble in a room and access the page from its options. Nothing indicates it. I guess you are supposed to just know to right click the chat bubbles for that stuff. I'm not infallible though. Maybe there was some indication and I just missed it.
Yogurt is milk that’s been fermented; the result releases probiotics that can help support helpful gut bacteria.

But there other fermented foods one can eat that are dairy-free, like tempeh, kimchi and miso.
For what it's worth, here's what CNN was reporting Friday night:

Google will not be publishing a national-scale website for coronavirus testing anytime soon, contrary to claims made by President Donald Trump during a Friday news conference.

Instead, a health-focused subsidiary owned by Google’s parent company, Alphabet, intends to launch a small-scale website next week to begin to triage California-based patients. The website will aim to serve a broader population only “over time” — not “very quickly,” as Trump said.

“What we’re building is a triage tool that will live on ProjectBaseline.com, and we plan to pilot it in California next week,” said Carolyn Wang, a spokesperson for the Alphabet subsidiary, Verily.

“Our aspiration is for the triage tool to be used much more broadly over time. Initially, we’re linking it with several sites in the Bay Area to test and iterate, and collaborating closely with organizations like Quest Diagnostics and Labcorp who are also working on additional approaches to making testing more accessible and expedient in other areas.”

https://www.siliconvalley.com/2020/03/13/google-says-its-not...
> Ownership on its own doesn't incur any performance overhead.

That means barely anything.

The computational cost is paid at compile time for deciding who owns the object, but the consequences are still felt at runtime.

As I understand it, no parallel thread of execution can do anything to an object while I believe I need to write to it, by any mechanism presently in Rust (or planned?). So if new computational complexity creeps into the middle of my operation then the availability of that object begins to drop like a rock. Correct?

> it's just something you have to be aware of.

Take any feature in any language, and this solution doesn't scale. The general case is not, "I made the code slow and I should have been aware of what I was doing." The general case is, "someone who wasn't aware of what they were doing has broken something and now we need to find it when we don't even know who did it." and, "how do we explain to people how to do better in the future instead of just scolding them?" I have been living in this very space in another language for the better part of a month, and I expect to be here again later this year.

I have tools do find memory leaks, and performance bottlenecks. Is anyone thinking of analogous solutions for constrained parallelism in Rust?
Best to shut down now and flatten as much as possible, no?
Ask HN: Best resources, repositories, software for genetics,3D mod. of Covid-19?
As an armchair mol bio/genetics reader, what's the best sources for 1) published sequence of Covid-19, 2) papers describing structure, important proteins, important segments of RNA, etc, 3) current latest-greatest in software to view/manipulate sequences and/or 3D structure of viral proteins, RNA?
J-1 visa program suspended for 60 days
Herd immunity by mass exposure is an interesting, very likely catastrophic, approach. It's interesting that he (of the twitter cite) claims that it is "more refined", as if simply doing nothing and rationalizing your hubris is 4D chess.

Every country realizes it can't be stopped now. Every country realizes that the majority of the population will get it. But as has been cited a thousand times, having hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people, along with a substantial enough number of otherwise healthy people, needing heroic medical care would be disastrous. See: Italy. Their approach wasn't "more refined".

I doubt the outcome is going to be good.
justin.tv almost exclusively was for chatting/watching copyrighted videos/tv shows together online (later rebranded and sold for ~$1B as twitch.tv)
Specifically for "out of an abundance of caution", in Google Books there begin to be usages around 1911, based on a very quick search. As noted by someone else it's a pretty common phrase among American lawyers.
Well, all these people consciously have chosen to fly at the time like this. It was clear that drastic travel disruption is imminent and chance of exposure is high on the plane, and yet they took the risk.
It's not just for compromised passwords. Some systems require regular password changes.
The list of those countries make me wonder.

What is going to happen in poorer countries in terms of both the number of casualties and how more quickly will it or won't cases peak compared to more wealthy countries trying to slow the peak number of cases?
Seems to be closed source?
That’s assuming there’s more than anecdotal data to support sewage transmission, that other transmission vectors were ruled out and that there is other cases where it’s been shown to happen. Plus their quote says it’s low risk, not “no risk”.

It’s always easy to look from the outside and yell “what are these idiots doing?!”
Here in SE Asia yogurt is much less popular but there are lots of other non-dairy fermented, probiotic foods that people eat regularly like kimchi, natto, etc. So yogurt may be one of the few probiotic foods people eat in the West but it's hardly special.
This is older news. Latest news from today is Google is also working on a nationwide testing website.
Really.

I mean sure - they dropped the ball on a new virus emerging from a familiar situation and getting blindsided by incompetent and image obsessed party officials who silenced the alarms and it took a while for the highly concentrated power structure of blindly loyal party officials to pivot and move.

However ...

It was not an unknown anymore for Europe
There was months of warning time
There is no suppression of scientific at scale
There was daily warnings from WHO and many countries
There was precedent for effective measures from Asia

There is no no no reason this should happen in a western democracy right.

And lets not even look at the US where image obsessed national officials with highly concentrated power and blind loyal party following have been actively downplaying (flu), suppressing the national response and hampering testing and effective containment.

It's like China in reverse - the stupid version playing out right in front of our eyes.

We all here love to repeat the virtues of western democracy over the autocratic China but right now we need to take a really good look at how much the theoretical ideals have been replaced by practices that combine the worst of both systems to absolutely devastating results.

If we don't want a major collapse down the road from all the other wait-and-see known threats, from antibiotic resistance to resource exhaustion to broken pension systems to climate change, we better start thinking about how we get of the 'reality is what we want it to be as long as we vote for people who tell us what we want to hear and cast out people who tell us what we need to act upon' train.

Darwin is about survival of the most adaptable to an ever changing world, not necessarily the strongest and right now China looks a lot more adaptable than we do- so if we like our values and system we better start making sacrifices to the gods of science and reality again.

That however would require us to even admit there is a problem and it's not looking promising
This is such a bad idea. Now you have to remember the counter field and username you used for each site. Also you can’t change your master password without changing every single item in your vault. As a person with 1000+ passwords, this would never work.
Exactly stop with the dumb idiotic politics were in a pandemic and even both sides are coming together (setting aside the stupidity) to focus on trying to defeat this virus.
"I was very critical at first, but I'm more interested/satisfied with the response now"

It sounds more like you're at the bargaining stage now, rationalizing why it might be a good approach because it's happening and you hope for the best.

It sounds insane. Italy quite literally did the same model. Now they're in the worst of both -- mass quarantine / enormous economic damage AND the brutal human toll.
Looks a lot like https://masterpassword.app/ which is what I use and describe as more of a password calculator.
I'm curious which ones you think are ineffective and counterproductive. My understanding is that it's in line with what the WHO recommends:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

Wash your hands frequently

Regularly and thoroughly clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand rub or wash them with soap and water.

Why? Washing your hands with soap and water or using alcohol-based hand rub kills viruses that may be on your hands.

Maintain social distancing

Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and anyone who is coughing or sneezing.

Why? When someone coughs or sneezes they spray small liquid droplets from their nose or mouth which may contain virus. If you are too close, you can breathe in the droplets, including the COVID-19 virus if the person coughing has the disease.

Avoid touching eyes, nose and mouth

Why? Hands touch many surfaces and can pick up viruses. Once contaminated, hands can transfer the virus to your eyes, nose or mouth. From there, the virus can enter your body and can make you sick.

Practice respiratory hygiene

Make sure you, and the people around you, follow good respiratory hygiene. This means covering your mouth and nose with your bent elbow or tissue when you cough or sneeze. Then dispose of the used tissue immediately.

Why? Droplets spread virus. By following good respiratory hygiene you protect the people around you from viruses such as cold, flu and COVID-19.

If you have fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical care early

Stay home if you feel unwell. If you have a fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical attention and call in advance. Follow the directions of your local health authority.

Why? National and local authorities will have the most up to date information on the situation in your area. Calling in advance will allow your health care provider to quickly direct you to the right health facility. This will also protect you and help prevent spread of viruses and other infections.

Stay informed and follow advice given by your healthcare provider

Stay informed on the latest developments about COVID-19. Follow advice given by your healthcare provider, your national and local public health authority or your employer on how to protect yourself and others from COVID-19.

Why? National and local authorities will have the most up to date information on whether COVID-19 is spreading in your area. They are best placed to advise on what people in your area should be doing to protect themselves.
I have already told my parents that I'll do exactly that for them, and have even been asking every time I go to the store myself if they need _anything_ from it.

I'm reasonably sure that I won't die from this, but my parents are old enough to be at serious risk; this is only logical.
The UK's moronic lack of response?
Why do people still drink dairy milk? I watched a video on factory farming and switched to almond milk ever since. What's the big deal?
So far they haven't and it's been a few years.

The true question is: when is GMail changing its CSS class names ;)
Is this known for a fact? I thought the bat angle was more a most likely scenario but not proven.
The closure of last temporary hospital after dramatic fall in cases in China
Says some guy on medium that's not an epidemiologist. Are you one?
> Saving a bunch of working-class grandpas

The problem is there is currently no known way to save them.
This is absolutely lovely. I used to mess around with a short-wave radio when I was a kid, and there was a sense of mystery and discovery that was magic. And for me at least it's still there. Just now I happened to find a Romanian radio station, and discovered that about 70% of the time it sounds like Spanish to me, with 30% incomprehensible.

And I love the lovely sounds one gets from trying various modulations and tunings. It makes me think that whoever designed R2-D2's sounds must have been a shortwave fan.
A few downvotes on this so far, but no replies. No answers! I apologise for reaching out to the community. I love HN and respect the guidelines whole heartidly, but I was actually hoping for a reply.
The WHO has verified China's numbers.
I love this service. I am really interested in learning how to do this myself. And like others, it would be nice for all the code to be open source.
Again, you said "A bat infecting a pig could easily happen in Italy". I'm calling bullshit on that. I know it's just a silly example, but the risk of a virus hopping from a bat to a pig in Italy (again, how many bats do Italians eat?) is not comparable to a Chinese wet market, where beasts of all kinds, their waste, and products of butchery are intimately mixed every day.

> Also, this particular virus likely did not cross over in a wet market, there is no evidence for that.

If you're relying on a lack of absolute physical proof to support your argument, then I guess you win. Otherwise, there absolutely is evidence that this virus jumped from an animal reservoir local to Hubei, and that the wet markets are perfectly designed to facilitate that process. You're being a bit slippery on this point, but it really isn't the least bit controversial among virologists or epidemiologists.

American-style factory farming of cattle, swine, and poultry, where uncountable animals are crammed together and kept alive with antibiotics, is maybe a valid comparison. America is creating it's own epidemic of antibiotic resistance with the help of these farms (and so is China for that matter). But that does not -- or at least logically should not -- assuage anyone's discomfort with the health hazards of wet markets.
This article claims that “lockdown” is the best way to stop the virus, then says that South Korea and China are the examples to follow. It claims that Korea has made a lockdown.

South Korea has, at no point, made anything close to the country-wide “lockdown” we’re seeing in parts of Europe.

Korea’s reaction is amongst the most successful in the world, and involves contact tracing and isolation of the sick. When they have “locked down” anything, it’s been extremely small scale, on the order of a building or block. Similarly, Taiwan has had an immensely successful response, without resorting to these kinds of extreme measures.

This article is designed to scare, not to inform.
I would think it's the current eco system that makes those who respect for expertise and rationailty happened to have some compettive advantages during the prodedure. They have better odds to be elected over their opponents. There are some observation supporting the hypothesis but too long to discuss here.
What's being done to fix the lack of tests in the USA?

The CDC is headquartered in Atlanta. Where do the COVID-19 tests from them come from? Where are they manufactured, what ingredients do they require, how much do they cost to make, how long does it take to make them? What's the hold up on getting "unlimited" tests from the CDC? Do the tests even come from the CDC? How many are they producing a day? What are their blockers?
Dogs Can Test Positive but Cannot Transmit Coronavirus
The Constitution isn’t suspended because of coronavirus
> Go read HN comments from weeks and months ago, and see the posters encouraging prompt measures getting called paranoids.

Exactly. Two weeks ago every coronavirus thread on Hacker News was full of deniers claiming this was no worse than the flu and this was all just media hysteria. Some probably still hold that opinion. I don't think they will be convinced until the hospitals start overflowing.
I'm impressed when I see people actually build something that they believe in, rather than just work for the man.

This looks to me like more than someone could build in their free time while they work for a soul sucking corporation. I mean, maybe, but it's not possible for everyone. I hope he or she figures out a way of making a living at it.
"That's a great question." is another one that you won't be able to unhear.

This Freakonomics podcast was what made me aware of it consciously. https://freakonomics.com/podcast/thats-a-great-question-a-ne...
Though I agree with your criticism in broad strokes, this is also a numbers game. If it reduced the number of infected people entering then it was useful. It doesn't have to completely eliminate it to be worth doing.

There are legal and logistical challenges in preventing US residents from entering or imposing quarantine.

Would strong or (more importantly) earlier responses have been good? Absolutely! But a weak and late response is much better than an even later response (even if the later response is stronger).

By the numbers we should prefer a non-US-resident ban-- even without screening/quarantine-- on day 20 than a everyone-ban on day 40.
I always use YAD, a much more feature-filled fork of zenity.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/yad-dialog/
In life we deal with things we never could have imagined. But the anticipation of something, or waiting on the edge of the unknown can be even worse.

One thing that consistently helps me when I feel a loss of control is to clean and organize. I also meditate. But cleaning up my environment seems to have the effect of also cleaning my mind.

With three kids 5 and under at home with us for a while — let’s be real it could be a long time — cleaning and organizing today has helped me and my wife feel a bit more ready for what’s coming.

Hang in there, we’re all in this together!
I think maybe if project management and “stakeholder” status weren’t also effectively done by the manager it might make it OK. I got spoiled by a few years at a place with outstanding project management and it’s taking some adjustment to go back to so loose a style.