skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Some people have a psychological or emotional reaction to code, similar to the way others do to poetry or prose, and sometimes the shape and structure of code gives people a sense of order and centeredness, in a similar way to OCD. The relative simplicity of Lisp compared to other languages probably makes these effects more acute.

I would really dislike to work with such people in a professional setting. Can you imagine having PR with someone who thinks code should inspire an emotional response?

You know what’s beautiful? Simple and effective things, even if you can’t fall in love with the way they look.
In one of your math courses you'll eventually run across what they call "set builder notation.

The notation for this is a decent example that shouldn't be too hard to follow. What it's basically saying is

{2x: x∈[1,10)}

with the implication that x is an integer. We usually read the colon (or sometimes a vertical bar) as "such that". I know my explanation is somewhat lacking, but you can probably see the parallels there. You'll probably get to it this year or next.
> Sold out is always a function of 'the cost of getting it to me is too high'.

No, that only applies when the price can adjust. The problem with 'price gouging' laws is that you are not allowed to spend more for stuff you really, really want.
I posted the relevant facts. Please post your relevant facts to counter them. I’ve done my research and until those core facts change my viewpoint remains.
Just wait in the lobby so when they drop it on the porch you can go grab it?
One Word Broke C
Depends on the nature of the contamination. Some pathogens are exceptionally difficult to de-contaminate, like Candida auris.
For people like many of us here who live highly connected lives for 15+ years, it's hard to appreciate how some people are disconnected. It can be a very peaceful lifestyle, it comes up often in conversation here. But this, they would find out...but how soon I wonder?
It's a butchering of the term with a long and proud tradition.

Distributing might be a decent choice of word, too, but it has extra connotations of shipping stuff around that I don't want here.
Puerto Rico also started a curfew that restricts movement except going to/from work, grocery stores/pharmacies, or health care: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/us/coronavirus-puerto-ric...

I'm in Seattle and, other than these closures, complete movement restrictions would be the next step here.
I live in a very walkable small town. I typically go just pick up whatever I've ordered. Most things are no more than a ten minute walk for me.

Edit: FYI, cuz reasons, there's no lobby.
Grocery and Meal Delivery (2017)
Hand sanitiser is not essential, however it's an important tool which helps reduce the chance of infection in the general population. If someone is carrying a sanitiser they will most likely use it and that benefits everyone.
Also Jon-Erik Hexum, who played Russian Roulette between takes with a blank cartridge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum
I have lived in the US for 20 years now - I am a millennial. I am originally from Peru. When all of this started I thought the US was going to handle it. We all were going to rally together and take care of each other. We would exercise social isolation and hold this virus off. The rate the trend is going should be scary for anyone (at least the people reading hacker news). I am surprised of people thinking this won't affect them. If widespread and out of control, it will affect everyone.

Funny enough that my country of birth, Peru, just declared a national emergency and declared quarantine for everyone in the country. Peru is a democratic country - at least for the last 20 years - but it had to enact this to stop the virus from spreading. It's a bold move, it's not a popular one, but it's the right one imho.

We should be doing the same, our current leader is - unfortunately - a coward who will always be afraid of taking a risk. It's on us then, as responsible citizens to make sure we don't go out unless we really need to for a while - at least that we can control. Just my two cents.
And the volunteers tend to not show up in times like this, so it falls apart pretty quickly
The quarantine in China will end at some point, but you claim it won't end in the US if we give the government that power, a power it already has. Which one's the free country again?
I didn't say "only", either.
The people who elected him are presumably on the older side, and thus the ones likely to die if this isn’t dealt with properly.
You can't avoid the bust unless you avoid the boom. But the Fed makes no effort to avoid the boom.
Since my post hasn't broken any laws, and I haven't murdered anyone, or sent any bombs in the mail, let's give phlakaton the benefit of the doubt and assume good faith, that he's not making baseless accusations, and by "shitposting" he's referring to the actual convicted murderer Ted Kaczynski, who posted bombs in the mail that killed 3 people and injured 23 people.

Unless he can cite any criminal codes I've violated or people I've murdered, I'll assume phlakaton is not just being histrionic and totally overreacting by calling my post "a disaster for Intenet (sic) discourse", or accusing me of murder.

Speaking of melodramatic shitposting about network based disasters and the triumph of Worse is Better, from the Unix-Haters handbook which included a chapter on Lisp: Good News, Bad News, How to Win Big:

The X-Windows Disaster:

https://medium.com/@donhopkins/the-x-windows-disaster-128d39...

>X: The First Fully Modular Software Disaster

From The Unix Haters Handbook:

https://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf

>The Rise of Worse Is Better, By Richard P. Gabriel. p. 311.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unix-Haters_Handbook

>Contents

>The book concerns the frustrations of users of the Unix operating system. Many users had come from systems that they felt were far more sophisticated in computer science terms, and they were tremendously frustrated by the "worse is better" design philosophy that they felt Unix and much of its software encapsulated.
Here's a relevant Paul Graham essay -

http://paulgraham.com/badeconomy.html
Anyone found any good info on the risks of food itself.

Eg kitchen staff is infected, coughs into meal

1. Do you get if it’s cold food, like a salad or sushi?

2. If yes, do you get it if it’s warm food, like indian food?

3. If yes, do you get if you reheat/microwave the food? If so, what is required/

Have not seen a lot of discussion about this. Did see that in china restaurants would certify the body temperatures of all involved.
Totally agree. The bailout of the banks has started with 0% rates and massive QE, which at the end of the day while I think necessary to prevent a credit crisis will do nothing to help the real economic situation; demand is dead for a while because of the health situation.

We should consider more radical measures like temporary rent/mortgage freezes.
Show HN: Covid-19 Dashboard
This is pretty genius actually, why can't we have a forced induction machine e.g. portable HEPA filter on miniature box fan that pipes contaminant free air to sealed mask with some removable gel sealant to get it flush with skin.
LA Mayor closes movie theaters, bars, nightclubs, entertainment venues, gyms
I hate it when the doctor gives me a choice, because the answer is almost without fail “you are the doctor, please do what you think is best”. What I like is them explaining their choices to me, so I can understand them.

If there are two equal choices with cost and benefits, then maybe.
Such a bailout is feasible. During the financial crisis houses were physically built and purchased without enough people with the income to cover the loan. The difference here is that there is no underlying financial issue. People will still want to go to restaurants and bars after this is over, and it will end.
You have the freedom to take personal responsibility in a time of crisis. Despite the zeitgeist freedom doesn't have to be all about being dangerously selfish.
Missing screenshot or video. Found this on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04v2ODsmtIs

I've also found k9s nice to use: https://github.com/derailed/k9s
You're right that there is not any official standard.

But almost every major library follows a convention that's very similar to the cpython docs.

If you're making a language reference, shouldn't it look like the language ?
> Maybe read all my comments before making insulting assumptions about me. I've already talked about having CF in this thread.

GP wasn't talking about you specifically.
Or we need a cycle of a band of foul-mouthed non-agreeable assholes breaking off from the stale norm and creating a programming counterculture that goes on to revolutionize the world before being taken over by entryists who grind its culture back in to placid oppressive normalcy, upon which a band of foul-mouthed non-agreeable assholes break off and...
Why can't both statements be true? His "ramblings" get posted because he was running for president on a campaign addressing issues that most candidates do not address in a constructive manner such as job displacement from automation and UBI. I'm personally not a fan, but I wouldn't be so dismissive as I believe the statements don't actually contradict each other like you think they do.
Editorialized titles like that break the HN guidelines: "Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Possibly not. Thank you for pointing that out.
A huge portion of those beds need to be used for other illnesses besides covid19; the breakaway case number is therefore much lower than 1M.
> Public health officials say it will take a year to 18 months to fully validate any potential vaccine.

Why?
Because South Korea has the best medical systems in the entire world?
What corner cases did it not cover for you?
Lots of nice content here.

I started with the QM section, and it felt like you jumped right in to the particle theory of light. I realized later that of course you have an in depth discussion of the wave theory of light, but I think a bit more explicit connection to that discussion could be helpful.

I particularly like coming back to Young’s double slit experiment, which I saw in your discussion of diffraction. To me, the most surprising illustration of the wave/particle duality of light is that single photons passing sequentially through the double slit still form a diffraction pattern. So these particles sort of ‘self-interfere’.

One other thought regarding the standing wave demo — maybe you are already familiar with this, but setting up higher order harmonics is a pretty common technique among guitar players (and other stringer instruments), where you pluck a string while touching one of the standing wave nodes. If you’re not familiar with ‘portrait of Tracy’ by Jaco Pistorius, it’s a really cool and unique example of this technique

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JXOnhzoC-i8
I actually like this. I would upvote, but I dont see the option.
That clearly isn’t happening, though.
> Fatality rate for 50 and below is a paltry 0.2%

These fatality rate estimates assume top quality medical care. And this crisis is quite simply not "here to stay"; decisive measures can definitely "flatten the curve" and perhaps even lower R0 so much that the virus stops spreading altogether, and cases start dropping towards zero.
It's less about insolvency and more about having a ton of savings. The entire business model is driven by customers, and they go from netting $2k/day to losing on salaries and rent. How long do you think a successful bar could survive hemorrhaging money on a daily basis, with no hopes of when customers would be allowed to return? What bank is going to write a loan that risky to keep them afloat?
I can’t figure it out. The pages load and work but it’s horrendous to understand how to get it set up.

ZeroTier is much easier to understand and I like it.
Money doesn't convert into medicine in an instant, and in times of crisis, that money will buy much less medicine.
If a country discovers the measures are too strict, it can always reduce them a little bit. The US looks like just a pair of weeks away from disaster, acting now may be enough to make that disaster brief and having the situation under control shortly after.
Citation? My understanding is that quarantine powers are well established in law. This isn’t the first epidemic.

Furthermore, the lockdown of the Boston area after the marathon bombings is a very clear and recent precedent relating to a different public safety emergency.

Worse comes to worst, I suspect we’ll see MRAPs on the streets first and any legal fallout, later.
Have you tried wiping a public touchscreen down with a sanitary wipe?

It is not usable until all the fluid has evaporated.
Several restaurants in downtown Seattle have already closed. More will probably come over the next few weeks.

As I expect this to largely continue to be a problem through summer the tourism industry in downtown is going to be hit very hard.

The economic side of this is going to hit like a ton-of-bricks. It's going to be very painful, and we should do everything we can as a society to take care of those that are hit hardest by it.
How does something like this really help? It seems like an automated phone answering system for COVID testing. This seems like, maybe, 0.1% of the problem we have in this country with dealing with this virus. I'm not saying it's unhelpful, just that it doesn't seem all that helpful either. It seems like a bunch of hot air from Trump and Google.

Also, isn't verily a bioscience company? I would expect them to be working on testing, or treatments, or almost anything other than a website. This drastically lowers my opinion of what I thought verily was, which admittedly, I didn't know much, I just figured it would being doing something a little more "hands on" here. Hopefully they're doing that too...

Also:

> Your data collected by Verily through the testing program will never be joined with your data stored in Google products without your explicit permission.

Who outside of even a subset of software engineers know what this means?
I mean, I'd take it as it was intended. Italy the state.

If it was intended to be particular to the populace it would be: "Don't be Italian" OR "Don't be like the Italians"
Would love to hear more on this. Official wording is something like “there have been no documented cases of transmission through food or food packaging” however it seems impossible to actually trace transmission anyway.
I think we're about to find out very quickly exactly how much labor is nonessential.
Those are some important facts, thanks for sharing. I’d like to see the probability of healthy people getting permanent damage however. That would change my mind. Until then the extremely low fatality and infection rate for average people, as well as the incubation period being so long that it’s unrealistic to contain it, is enough for me not to worry about it.
> I live an SRO. I don't have a kitchen. I currently don't have a fridge. I have a small grill and some shelving to store stuff.

I hesitate to ask about the size of the space you have available, but in Paris it's pretty common to find one room apartments that are only 9 square meters. Typically you put a one or two top induction or electric stove (portable ones are actually very cheap and work well) above a minifridge and a hutch for dishes/spices with a sink about the size of your hands.
wtf are you talking about? They were raising interest rates and rolling assets off their balance sheet for the better part of 2018.
There's no greater feeling than the crunch of the bones of the unworthy beneath your heel.
AFAIK, normal hand sanitizer is 70% alcohol (concentrations much higher or lower than that are not as effective), plus a few extra ingredients to avoid drying the skin of the hands. Washing the hands with soap is better (there are some microorganisms which are not killed by the alcohol), but needs water for rinsing, so there are many situations where alcohol-based hand sanitizer is more convenient.
> The UK's answer to the problem is starting to look a lot more sensible than total economic chaos being caused by all other methods.

The UK's answer to the problem may result in manyfold more dead than this approach. We won't be able to know until after the fact.

In that state of unknown, I prefer the approach that values lives over dollars.
You can't ethically test a vaccine once a disease has disappeared so I'm not sure what you'd expect them to do in the SARS case.
I'm not a professional vaccine researcher, but I can only imagine you want to validate 1. that the vaccine is effective and 2. that the vaccine doesn't cause everyone who takes it to get an aneurysm six months later. These things have to be pipelined. You don't want to inject 10k people with something you've only tested on 45. You don't want to inject 45 with something you haven't tested on animals. You don't want to stop the 10k person trial too early in case if there is a longer term side effect you missed. You don't want to start manufacturing billions of doses until your 10k trial is done. Etc.
The us has more icu beds than italy.
Note that there are other "5 min Physics" explanations and demos from UQ:
https://teaching.smp.uq.edu.au/fiveminutephysics/index.html
Does anybody know if there’s a strict requirement to use Stripe’s payment processing when part of Atlas? Or can you still use Adyen, authorize.net and the like?
The FED’s job is monetary policy. It isn’t to bail out businesses.
It's probably best if we aggregate these links in one place rather than having a separate thread for each new location. (Similarly to what we did at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22550840)

NYC: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22589463

California ("calls for", not enforced): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22587062

Others?
It isn't really. The issue though is one of effected population. Many people were and are pissed at this type of gouging by pharma companies (see what happened to Shkreli). The pendulum does seem to be swinging back from unrestrained capitalism a bit, but that's also required there to be more data gathered with regard to where and how exactly legal/political/social pressure can be applied to change the behavior. Mind, for about the last 40 years, there has been a pretty consistent trend of deregulation and companies flaunting their regulators.

Hopefully the winds are shifting as a new demographic is entering the political arena having been the butt-end of this status-quo for a while.
We did some research on this a while ago, and while it definitely won't be as easy as in a bull market, there's plenty of good companies that were started during market downturns. [0]

[0] https://medium.com/@645ventures/3-things-founders-vcs-should...
Suspend rent payments
One day when we have the benefit of hindsight someone will do an analysis on the quality-adjusted life years gained and lost by the different responses to this.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22589241
Yes, the government should step in with those measures regardless. Without that, this isn't possible. Then we are stuck doing nothing like the UK, despite having almost two months lead time on this.
This goes on until enough people gets the disease to that natural contamination is slow enough not to overwhelm the health care infrastructure.

I don't think anybody can give you any actual number. But it's not hard to test a sample of people and determine the virus rate of spread, so we will know it when it happens.
Why develop a vaccine for a disease that is now non-existent? We still have the research from that and that's why we already know about some of the workable treatments like HIV and Malaria drugs.

There's a number of Zika vaccines that have been developed years ago that still aren't close to regulatory approval.

SARS-COV-1 infected people for 2 years, then it was gone. There's certainly a chance that SARS-COV-2 disappears before a vaccine could make it to market.
I get your point, but what my title says is exactly what the quote from the popular press article states. See my own comment to my post towards the end of the comments list in this thread. I did not come up with this title out of nowhere or to make clickbait-y.
So why is the crime the same for both people? Also, if he didn't plan on selling the sanitizer then we wouldn't have any (legal) problem with his actions. You can buy all you want with no consequence.
I considered that as well. I live in an area of town where a lot of 110+ year old town houses still stand proudly (European cities would laugh at that statement) but I know that only the stuff built well is standing today while whatever had been made to a lower quality crumbled and was built over. Just because old buildings survive to this day doesn't mean everything from that era was built to last.

With regards to the featured article, I'd say multiple factors are at play - Roman concrete has amazing properties and structures that used it combined with good quality-control (i.e. correct material ratios in the concrete) and good engineering survived.

The human elements, quality-control and design, are less interesting than a magical substance.
It transmits in several ways, including droplets:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmissi...

And WHO says it lives on surfaces for a couple hours up to several days.

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses

So, personally, I'm not eating anything if someone coughs on it or around it. I'm not even buying fresh fruit and veggies at the store right now.

I can't find any information about heating the virus to kill it.
excited! I usually ban them without kidding. Not a humorous person lol
As I said, there is usually a nonhuman cause and exceptions exist.
According to the article, the German government would only confirm the accuracy of the quotes attributed to its spokespersons:

> the German health ministry would only confirm the accuracy of the quotes attributed to one of its spokespersons in the article

The health ministry did not confirm the anonymous claim
that “Trump was doing everything to secure a vaccine against the coronavirus for the US, ‘but for the US only’.” Spokespersons, by definition, do not speak anonymously.

I hope this clears things up for you.
Small nit: Boise has one recorded case. It was recorded Friday.
Someone has already posted a California announcement somewhere.
LA: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-03-15/coronaviru...
> Fatality rate for 50 and below is a paltry 0.2%

Assuming no medical treatment because the medical system is already full? I doubt it.
I've been kinda scheming on this but didn't know where to ask, this thread seems relevent.

How hard/possible would it be to make a ~1m tube of 1 -3cm diameter, with a LED strip suspended down the centerline. a charcoal filter and a very light fan on one end, and face-mask on the other end. the fan and LED could be powered by an 18650 dangling from a lanyard/necklace. some kind of valve in the face mask would have to vent your exhales and then toggle for the inhales to draw through the tube.

How far off am I on the parts? You can get a 10Wh 18650, can you run a 1 meter strip of UV LEDs at 5 or 10W? Would that be enough power at the right distance (radius) and for enough time (an inhale would draw air through quickly) to do the job?
> The bailout of the banks has started with 0% rates and massive QE, which at the end of the day while I think necessary to prevent a credit crisis

Well, no, if you bailed out businesses and consumers directly, there also wouldn't be a credit crisis.

Structurally, though, that's fiscal stimulus, which isn't the Feds job, and good luck getting much of that through Congress, and by that I mostly mean the Senate Republican Caucus.

> We should consider more radical measures like temporary rent/mortgage freezes.

While not that particular measure, a number of states and localities have adopted or are considering eviction and/or foreclosure bans, which leaves mortgage/rent technically due but limits nonpayment consequences.