skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Disproportionately, it is the olds who are behaving like nothing is happening. They are the ones consuming the cable news that is framing it as "wash your hands and everything will be fine!".

Youngs generally accept that these large-scale phenomenon are real. We are just also powerless to change them, because politics are dominated by centrist olds who just don't want their 401k to go down too much.

Yes, you should wash your hands, but that's not going to have much of an impact on an aerosolized respiratory virus. Individual action has a very limited impact on these giant, planet-wide phenomena. A very large number of people are going to get coronavirus unless there are state or country-scale interventions like mass quarantines. It's not our fault that the bigger actions aren't being taken. Youngs wield extremely little political power (in significant part thanks to ourselves and our own unwillingness to vote).

See also: climate change, gun violence, pollution, etc etc. These are large problems that youngs accept and olds stonewall collective action on, instead pushing bullshit "individual responsibility" narratives with no realistic chance of solving the problem.
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> Antidotal evidence is horrible.

I agree, currently there's a horrible lack of evidence that antidote exists.
Unrelated to the content of the page, I'm really starting to hate the push for SSL everywhere.

This website has misconfigured certs and because of that my browser blocks it. Chrome is corp IT-managed and has no opt-out, whereas Firefox lets me accept the certs, but it's ultimately been blocked by our DNS/firewall for the same reason.

I really hate SSL. The majority of informational sites do not need it. I understand that it doesn't protect my privacy, but it doesn't frankly matter that I'm accessing an informational page about Coronavirus. If people are willing to give up their privacy to adtech platforms like Google and Facebook, the information about what websites you read is already out there.

I feel like Google has just created a deeper moat by pushing for SSL.

People complain about Kubernetes, but that's infra for large orgs that you shouldn't opt into unless you need it. SSL is being forced on the small guys who can't handle the complexity nor automation. It's not fair.
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PM said that people in critical functions who could find a care solution for their kids should show up to school -- and a solution would be worked out.

She admitted that the specifics of such solutions are not known at this time.
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That’s a rather baseless claim.
It's funny how the only global crisis deemed worth shutting down society over is the one that impacts 65+ year olds. Global warming, pension underfunding, unsustainable healthcare, and education costs don't count, because the crisis is 15 years away (eg after they die).

Crippling the global economy (and shutting down schools!!!) to stop COVID-19 hurts the future of 15-35 year olds the worst. But any reform is STILL going to be spent increasing healthcare funding -- to benefit the retirees impacted by COVID. $0 fixing the the damage to Gen Z, whose education and job prospects were delayed by (potentially) years, depending on whether we get sent into a recession.
I can't be the only one that isn't even worried about getting sick, but is worried the economic damage could be bad enough to impact my job.
one other thing... just because you might have had a bad experience at one aa or recovery meeting doesn't mean that recovery in general sucks. i always say, there is a reason why most 5:30 pm meetings are called Happy Hour. most trade the room for the bar and although they aren't drinking or using they are still jerks and aren't doing the same stuff they use to do. the old saying is a sober horse thief is still a horse thief. i find that people who are serious about getting sober usually go to morning meetings or smaller meetings (like church meetings). also... men with men, women with women seems to work for most.
I'd mark it as (2003), but character limit.
There are too many of these shutdown threads for HN's front page to handle. Let's at least collect the links from today.

Denmark: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22550108

Italy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22550623 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22545430

E3 2020: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22546931

U of Dayton: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22547457

Warriors: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22548770
I did not claim it's in the article, I'm only replying to the parent comment.
Ah so people should have free will taken away.
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From the article:
>>> The attending physician of Congress and the Supreme Court, Brian Monahan, briefed Senate staff on Tuesday afternoon in a closed-door meeting and said that he expects 70 million to 150 million people in the U.S. will contract the coronavirus, two sources tell NBC News.

Do the math. Take whatever your estimated fatality rate is -- 0.1%, 1%, 2% -- and multiply that by the lower/upper of (70MM, 150MM) and you get a very scary number regardless of your assumptions
Is this really changing anything? I suppose with over 1000 people there is more chance of an infected person being there, and more people to be interacted with.

But if that infected person is walking around anyway, is it really better for them to wander the streets going to other random locations, infecting other people?

I'm not sure it's an effective gesture.
Ok, so the pandemic became a Boomers vs Millenials issue?
Woah, thats crazy.. Its sad that a lot of states will look like that because they wont do anything...
I've been following the data, response and market reactions very closely.
Depends on your definition of okay, I suppose, but 75 cases per million people seems pretty high to me. China is only at 56 cases per million people. Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Are grocery shops considered critical?
It is depressing that the hyperbole comment is just a list of easily confirmable statements by the administration.
If this was a disease that primary affected young people all you'd hear is, "take some personal responsibility!"

Every policy decision of the last 40 years has been to protect the boomers and their assets, and that will probably remain the way of things for the next 30 years.
Yes, of course, if it neccessary. That's what the following Danish translates to

> Dog vil visse institutioner blive holdt åben for forældre, der ikke kan finde anden løsning, og for forældre, der varetager kritiske hverv og ikke kan finde anden løsning.

From https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/danmark-bliver-lukket-ned-...

DR is Denmark's public service radio/tv.
It is not the case that every Turing complete language allows certain inputs to cause the program to break the bounds of the language's semantics and go rampaging through its simulator. That's what unsafe means in the context of memory vulnerabilities. Yes, Rice's Theorem is cool, but so are sound and complete type systems.
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Where does a 100B neurons firing fit on to that spectrum?
I hope everyone does her/his best to tell their peers this is real.
Not all young people! But I have personally witnessed many young people speaking openly this way.

When I saw the statistics for my age cohort, my first reaction was to feel cavalier. It was a few minutes before I thought about the harm I could accidentally do to people in their 70s
> Web is not inherently better for your privacy or security.

Nobody said that. The point I'm making is that it is not "fundamentally insecure and wrong", especially compared to native applications.

As for security, there's some nuance there, but legacy desktop applications that are exploited can certainly do more harm than anything running in a web sandbox.
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Ha, sorry about that! Are you talking about the interface, the idea, or the content?!
This is exactly right. As young people we are afraid of climate because we know it will affect us in the future. That's not true for older people (well, we can quite easily argue that it is __currently__ affecting people).

I think another good example is nuclear. It may have low deaths per terrawatt of energy, but the deaths it causes are localized, physically and temporally. It doesn't matter that each year more people die in the US from coal ash than all those that ever have (or will) from (current) nuclear disasters.

These kinds of things are well known in psychology (including the simplest: marshmallow experiment). Humans are bad at risk estimation and even worse when it comes to time scales. If it isn't happening before our eyes then chances are we're pretty bad at estimating risk.
My understanding is that they don't even need you to acknowledge a God, just that "there is cosmically something bigger than you and you have no power to govern it"

Is that about what you experienced?
My personal favorite in this type of article is the mocking of millennials who “want participation trophies”

Who exactly was it that bought these trophies and gave them to kids again?
If they tried that in the US, the outcry would be deafening. (Especially with the current president. There would certainly be people accusing him of nefarious intent.)

I think it is probably a good way to decrease human interaction. But it's not politically feasible everywhere.
I don't understand it. Your refrigerator breaks, something goes wrong with your sink, how forcing shops to close is helping? I could understand maybe shops that are selling clothes, but so many things depend on each other. You need working appliances to be able to cook for yourself and keep proper hygiene.
Not that active on reddit, but given that the data presentation from WHO and co. is abysmal, both in style and depth, I might give it a try. Not that I am following it to closely until now, so. Might change, so.

I would love to get my hands on the raw data the WHO has so. Not post any results online or publicly, but to toy around with them. It is such an intriguing data set!
>Guess which country has better health outcomes.

The US, by all objective measures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_quality_o...

It's actually not uncommon for Brits to travel to America to pay for treatments not available on the national health or to avoid the often years-long waiting lists.
Denmark is geographically a relatively small country, and it is not uncommon for children to travel alone across the country in dedicated trains[1] for the children during the weekends.

That said, its really not uncommon for other family members besides grandparents and even friends of the family to take care of your children in Denmark.

[1]: (In Danish) https://www.dsb.dk/find-produkter-og-services/dsb-borneguide...
Yes. The Joe Rogan experience episode with Michael Osterholm talked about this. Basically all of this social distancing is about slowing the spread so as to not overwhelm the healthcare system, not stop it. They can calculate how much you impact the speed of spread if you limit gatherings to 1k, 100, 50, 5, etc. From there it's a somewhat subjective risk assessment of what you want to recommend, bearing in mind that destroying the economy results in deaths from downstream effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw
This is why you produce things domestically. We're at wartime. Alexander Hamilton understood this. George Washington understood this. This is going to be a turning point in globalization and offshoring things that will compromise our economy and ultimately undermine national security.
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When Rust calls into C code it completely loses almost all of its safety guarantees. Having a codebase which is half C and half Rust sounds worse to read and reason about than all either.

Additionally, most Windows code is C++ with Windows specific language extensions (COM, Structured Exception Handling, and others).

I think most C++ code should be rewritten in Rust library by library, but most software is not properly constructed as a series of libraries. And asking a business to rewrite working code in a brand new language instead of fixing a buffer overflow is a difficult ask.
I'm sorry you had to go through that.

Thank you for telling me about Al-Anon - I will look into it myself.
Making you give up your privacy is a general software trend already implemented at the operating system level. Web technology is orthogonal to it.
If you can decrease the spread factor (R0) by 0.1, you're going to help a lot of people. t^(r0-0.1) is a lot less over time than t^(r0).

That's averaged, of course. If your refrigerator breaks, your individual value will increase. But as a whole, it will still decrease.
My wife just got a replacement mask for her CPAP (that would run 120$ up here in Canada) for 10$ on wish - except for the packaging it appears to be absolutely identical.
So shutting down the schools to stop the spread, so children don't spread it to their older family members will hurt youth the worst?

A lot of issues with shutting down schools is in regards to childcare and food(meal programs) in the United States. Not their 'futures'.
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Why not do that if you are the basket?
yep, Chartio does enter BAAs with customers to deal with HIPAA data! I worked with several healthcare customers and lawyers here to make that happen. Happy to connect and share more.
I'd say a big part of that is just you're more aware that your doing it. I bet the total count is similar.
So when China removes all quarantines, what is going to stop the virus from spreading once again? It will spread (of course at a reduced rate since there is some immunity) until one of the following scenarios occurs:

- Virus has exhausted itself with the majority of the population.
- Vaccine is developed and universally available.
- Virus is eradicated from quarantine (so incredibly unlikely).

I am not an epidemiologist, just writing based off of common sense.
Interestingly Iceland, which has most of it's infections from Italy (and the other Alpine countries), designated those countries as areas with high risk of infection long before those countries would admit it, is not looking into these kinds of closures. I understand that they request people not to gather in large groups, on a completely voluntary basis and anyone is free to self-quarantine with pay or benefits.

The consensus over there is that the disruptions would be worse than an increase in infections. Closing schools and other limits would only delay the infections and they would likely become unmanageable when limits are lifted. The emphasis is on protecting those that are most likely to get seriously sick, and not limiting the number of infections of those that are not at (high) risk. They also consider that if those that have been infected build immunity, it would be better (and I'm paraphrasing) "to just get it over with."

On Friday they will start testing around the country to get a better understanding of the infection rate, especially whether it's already prevalent in the community. This will be on an unprecedented scale, as they expect to test >2% of the population. The expected result is that the infection is already widely distributed in the community.
It would reallllly be nice if you set up a web demo. I looked all over trying to find the link that would let me just TRY this marvelous thing you're telling me about, but it's all behind sign-ups and accounts and I just want to see the product. Not in a video-- I mean play with it.

Can you make a demo session with dummy data for people with play with?
That must be rewarding having a little one literally banging for attention! More good times!
The biggest benefit for me is, it guarantees my ISP can't mess with my pages. They already do it with mild stuff (https://www.zdnet.com/article/comcast-injects-copyright-warn...) so I wouldn't put it past them to inject ads or something if they thought they'd make any money.
> The constitution doesn't actually decide what we do

The 20th Amendment:
Section 1: The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January...

Section 3: If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

If there's no election, he stops being President at noon on the 20th of January.
> $0 fixing the the damage to Gen Z, whose education and job prospects were delayed by (potentially) years, depending on whether we get sent into a recession.

I mean Gen Z and younger millenials are in for the biggest and easiest opportunity to get rich in our lifetimes. A combination of low interest rates, and then high market supply when a lot of old people die leaving their houses vacant, means a reduction in prices and cheap financing, as well as undervalued equities. Perfect time to get rich.
This story is total fake news. The patient is a teacher with a Cadillac health insurance plan. She paid $75 co-pay. The $10,000 bill is an illusion printed by the insurance company to make her think that her insurance is actually valuable. No one was paid $10,000. The hospital was paid a secret negotiated rate much much much much lower than $10,000.
This seems to me to be mainly aimed at restaurants and department stores. For working applications, isn't that usually dealt with via in-home repair anyways? I don't know many people who would go to a store to buy a new appliance if it breaks, nor many people who would know how to buy parts and fix it themselves.
The difference between 0.5% and 3% case fatality rate is in large part determined by whether hospitals become overwhelmed, and that in turn will be determined by whether we take immediate and widespread preemptive action to reduce the exponent of the infection curve.
> the ones consuming the cable news that is framing it as "wash your hands and everything will be fine!".

It was sad to watch that: both sides of political spectrum have had their own motives to downplay the issue and therefore postpone the necessary political actions -- and for these, obviously, the youngest can not be responsible.

Both sides behave so, of course, "because economy" but there are other motives around as well.

In reality being complacent seem to already result in bigger problems than the isolation measures alone would. Italy is an obvious example.

I agree, there are indeed some similarities with the climate change problems.
that thread is the bestof of this forum
What errors are you seeing? Perhaps your IT department is the cause. The certs look fine.

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.donttouch...

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=lzdmsmujepoc2...
+1, very much agree with this. AI-driven chatbots are a piece of the puzzle for many of our users -- they cover commonly asked questions and can deflect a lot of questions. But it’s still just a portion of the work (even if a majority of volume). For example, a lot of “hard” support questions involve jumping between systems and following complicated (often nonexistent) procedures, even aside from models that understand intent.

Also to be fair to our team, we do have a bunch of problems that we no longer think of as AI, but are still super algorithm-intensive: forecasting, modeling of queues, and schedule optimization.
The Constitution is the only thing that gives the government (and thus the nation) any authority. Violating the Constitution to that degree would essentially mean the end of the United States.

Who knows what would happen after that, but it likely wouldn't be anything anybody wants.
As someone in the group you mentioned and is directly impacted (college student), I’m fine with closing stuff down if it stops people from literally dying.
I don't think that's right
This is great. Would love to see an import from twitter/reddit subs feature in the extension.
Looks like it may be effective against at least some viruses, too. Interesting.
too slow. told me like 1 minute later after i touched the face if at all...
Trump supporters think this is nothing and it’s already under control. I think they are more likely to infect others than the young.
Here is an overview of the economics of healthcare from a textbook:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/mankiw/files/economics_of_...
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Probably more Danes to skiing in northern Italy.

And who knows maybe the authorities have done a good job tracking down infected people -- implying that the number of unknown cases is small.
1: What's wrong with the site's certificate? Seems fine to me.

2: How does a greater penetration of HTTPS help Google's moat specifically? To my understanding, all the vendors are pretty much pushing in the same direction.
Has Robinhood crashed again?
> may be covered by both

A piece of code can infringe on a patent, but it can't itself be patented (although the algorithm it describes can).
They are not public sector and thus not directly affected.
One person being inconvenienced out of thousands is better than thousands being infected out of millions, and tens or hundreds of dead or permanently damaged.
What are you talking about? It's using TLS 1.3 and is signed by the GlobalSign root CA! It's using the most compatible RSA 2048 crypto, and all the parameters look valid.

Maybe you are a victim of a man-in-the-middle attack right now and the "stupid warnings" you're blithely clicking through are informing you of this.
Thank god ER us free here...
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Thank you, I'll take a look!

Just want to clarify – it doesn't have to be no code. In fact, a bidirectional workflow where you can edit the query either by writing SQL or clicking buttons is ideal.
The title of this is clearly supposed to be clickbait but what I find interesting from personal (23, London) experience is that most people my age are taking this seriously in the sense we recognise it can get worse and are taking sensible precautions (hand sanitiser, I know a few people self-isolating just in case).

While a few days ago I was speaking to a Primary school teacher friend of my parents, who claimed that because the UK "only has a couple hundred cases, it's not worth worrying about at all" the angle of "Oh i've seen virus' before and it was okay" was very apparent.

Now I know these are 2 personal anecdotes but I do wonder if generally it could be the opposite of what the title suggests, people my age have faint memories of Swine Flu but not much before that so I feel like we could be taking it more seriously

Of course there are "Well it'll kill all the boombers so it's good" jokes going around, but they're exactly that a joke, for the generation that called millenials snowflakes some (I believe a minority personally) can't really take a joke
Seems to be fixed now? Unless your corp doesn't have GlobalSign root?
But Danes travel more to nothern Italy for skiing.
I mean, you really ought to be able to experiment with explosives in a free country, as long as you're not hurting anyone / planning to hurt anyone. It's obviously legal when companies in the industry do it. Why shouldn't it be for private citizens.
I wish we could get rid of this dependency on the natural world that computers seem to have. Sadly I cant of a way to implement computers outside of reality and have some safe interface to them.