skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The timing of that press conference was really suspicious, and makes me think this is still all about the stock market and not a public health strategy.

It was scheduled to start at 3:00 PM, but they stalled until 3:30 PM to actually start it. 30 minutes before the stock market closed for the week. The longer they talked, the more the market went up. The market loved them. Everyone's confident that they are delivering competent leadership. Time to buy! Or so it seemed.

There were a huge number of short sellers in the stock market this week, and I think the white house knew that the short positions would be expiring at the end of the day on Friday. By bringing out this dog and pony show with captains of industry and making these big promises, I think they hoped to take credit for the inevitable upswing as short sellers brought up the market by closing their positions.

By doing this, the administration is trying to look like they have the power to restore confidence in the stock market, when in reality the market is still badly battered, and they are absolutely culpable.
I really don't think it's a problem.
And if the worst case occurs, with millions of elderly and immunocompromised dying, there are billions in potential savings in pensions and old-age healthcare, as well as improvements in housing affordability and overall reductions in national CO2 emissions.
That's what someone in the Twitter thread said.

But basically, people want guns to deal with all the other people who have guns. Most of them are dreaming, though, because they're not well enough trained to use them effectively.
I've been using DeepSpeech to learn to build voice controls for all sorts of things in JavaScript. And I've got a way to connect it to the web so you'll be able write speech recognition enabled web pages using client side JavaScript.

https://github.com/jaxcore/deepspeech-plugin
Hate is a strong word.

I think the media understands that in our present day world, they live or die by the number of clicks they can get. Journalistic integrity in that kind of environment is understandably difficult to ensure.

People will no longer pay for a subscription to the news in the numbers that used to be feasible in the past. This is a fact, and with it comes a set of a consequences we as a society have to come to terms with. Instead of pointing fingers, I think it's more important that we try and focus on finding solutions to the problem.
Isn't gaming responsible for some fall in substance abuse just by giving kids something to do?
The risks of large portions of the economy shutting down and millions of people losing their jobs is also very significant, particularly in a country where so many live so close to the edge of disaster. It's a difficult balance, but it feels like the economic fallout is sometimes lost on the readers of HN, most of who would quite comfortably live through a period of complete lockdown.
That's a really good answer. Thanks. I agree, but it just makes me pinch myself, check my pulse, and wonder if I'm in an alternate universe when the world pandemic of this age involves me going to Walmart instead of to a hospital.

Second part of the question. Where do I go get tested in each state, right now?
That is a complete misreading of what they are trying to do, which is flattening the curve and making sure more people can be treated with the medical resources they can measure and substantiate.
I like some almond milks quite a lot. But how can you possibly think it's the same as dairy milk — they're almost incomparable. Dairy milk is rich, delicious, less "candy" tasting. It's full of wonderful fat, whereas most alternative milks are thin and sweet (or bitter and chalky).

It's strange when people forget how important taste is.
Under the circumstances, shouldn't we demanding that the executive branch do a bit more than getting the main idea correct? Isn't it newsworthy when the president, in probably the single most important press event of his administration, got "all the details wrong as usual"?

Isn't that... "bad"? So why is it "fishing" to report "Trump bad" in this context?

This is bad. It's BAD. We have a clearly incompetent administration trying to coordinate the response to the worse disease outbreak in 102 years. And shouldn't the media be able to say that when it's true?
"You lose credibility for the next time it is really needed" when I hear the government harrass NBA officials, gamers, non-citizens of the world when they criticize the CCP, going around banning movies and books left and right, never mind the extraordinary surveillance state it has built for its own citizens. I feel like the CCP has already lost its credibility when it can't have a spine and a composure, constantly feeling insecure against anyone who criticizes them.

Fuck the CCP.
I believe it's from [1] by Paul Graham.

[1] http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
mass economic depression affects certain groups more than others.

Near-term fatalities affect certain groups more than others. Those with access to medical services (or can pay for more of it) will be less affected.

Which side being worse is a determination you have to make for yourself.
Having a dirty closet has fuck all to do with contracting or spreading COVID-19
The article talks about a robot arm pipetting and implies the machine finishes the test, but I don't know what other steps there might be.
See also: Cyclekarts https://www.cyclekarts.com/
Next week is critical to isolate to the max possible
Italy actually has a pretty good healthcare system, especially in the North, better than in the States (unless you're rich). The bigger difference is that the Italian population skews older. And with the situation at US airports right now it looks like there is some bad news coming down in another two weeks or so.
Erm.. I think it's a bit overrated TBH. Don't get me wrong - lisp is quite simply magical (and very ahead of the curve). However, when you look back at code, those written in Python just seem much nicer. The AIMA/PAIP code in Common Lisp, for instance, are ugly as hell, while that in Python (for AIMA) is far far elegant. No doubt this stems, in part, from CL's legacy, but I haven't found things to be much better in Scheme land either.
> The basic idea is to isolate the vulnerable and eventually protect them with herd immunity.

so what about those who had to suffer to give this herd immunity? If i were a UK citizen, and i got infected, there's a non-zero chance that i will also need a ventilator. Any, even a tiny misstep will cause the numbers to grow beyond the amount of beds available. That i am asked to take this risk is absurd.

Full isolation and quarantine is a more conservative way - for myself at least. Even if the economic damage is severe.
It's a bit of a cheat to argue this is stateless, given that the profiles (which stateful pieces of information which contain information about password complexity rules for each site, as well as which version of the password you're using) are synchronised with an online service. It is nice that you can self-host it though.

While I do applaud the idea (synchronising password databases manually is definitely something that gets on my nerves -- I use KeepassXC), I think the benefit of having completely random passwords that have no connection with each other is much higher. With systems like this, you have to have very strong confidence that your master password is very strong and will never be discovered. But with a file-based system, even if your master password is weak or compromised an attacker still needs to get an up-to-date version of your password file.

I'm also pretty sure I've seen this idea implemented a few times over the years (it's not clear to me if this is a new project or a reposting of an older project).
What are the other strategies? Aside from making it static.
> I'm having a lot of trouble taking this reply seriously, but I'm trying to follow HN guidelines.

I do not understand your trouble. This is a serious reply.

You asked which suggestions were ineffective and counterproductive. Your list was interesting but derailed in the end, so I listed the most obvious candidates. This is to help you in case you want to edit your post or make suggestions to friends and family.

Here is an alternative suggestion in case of a "large pile of junk": a strong UV lamp (of the kind that is used with reptiles) should be sufficient to alter the viruses present on the surface, removing any need to touch it.

However, we have limited information about how UV could be helpful at the moment, so it may be better to just spray alcohol on the pile and not touch it.
There are reports from China of significant lung scarring among patients who had to be hospitalised.
As disappointed as I am with much of the response in the US, it could still be a lot worse.

The potential for this kind of pandemic is something that the government was aware of and at least somewhat prepared for. It can be hard to imagine, but if all we had were the concerns of joe-everyman this would have caught us significantly more off-guard than it has.

Where I think we've faltered is in rapidly the hard decisions to trade-off short term economic impact vs long term health and economic impact. But there is still time to do a lot of good, and the level of our response seems to now-- finally-- be increasing exponentially along with the infection.
> when the experts inevitably muck up

> government doesn't seem to be reacting very quickly

> If the government encouraged prices to rise until supplies were only just running out and gave the medical system enough money to buy what they needed in that environment then the situation would resolve much more quickly

> So called 'panic buying' leads to a very healthy economic response after a month or two

Your argument would be stronger if you dropped the opinionated hyperbole.

If the government transferred funds through the market, vs direct purchases, then we'd be at the mercy of whatever the masses decided they wanted to buy.

As of a few days ago, this would have meant that millions of dollars went to toilet paper manufacturers.

You seem to be of the opinion that a free market knows best in crisis situations. I feel otherwise. Doubt I'm going to be able to change your mind.
Zapp Brannigan said it best: "Come back when it's a catastrophe"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW6xTkivmto
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This appears to still be a disagreement on details where you are not reading what I wrote. All I want to know is why anti-gouging laws are "of dubious constitutional basis."

You write that I wrote "and thus were not subject to federal constitutional limits"

I was more nuanced. I said "not really subject to direct US Federal Constitution limits".

There is no direct Federal Constitution limit on anti-gouging laws. (By comparison, see the direct prohibition on slavery (except as punishment for a criminal conviction)).

Therefore, if something isn't constitutional it must derive from some other principle, like the commerce clause, or perhaps interpretation.

Which is it?

Now, I am a programmer, with no legal training or political science training past high school classes. It's entirely possible that I have the terminology wrong. But I don't see how it's so wrong as to rate your response.

You constructed a quote from me: "I did a Google search"

As I wrote, I used DuckDuckGo. I realize "Google search" has taken on the generic meaning of "web search", but point it out as part of what seems to be your pattern of re-interpreting what I wrote in a way which I thought I was clear to not say.

"Again, convictions"

I think you have misread the thread.

The OP wrote "This guy did something that at a minimum will make him a pariah in his community and at worst could get him convicted of crimes in several states"

You rejected "convicted".

Sure. I'm fine with that. Because that wasn't my point. I wrote "Prosecutions occur often enough that I'm surprised to hear you say they don't have a constitutional basis." I even showed how one anti-gouging law was found invalid because of its conflict with the commerce clause. But that finding was specific to the details of that law.

You then followed up with "No, no they don't. You could count them on one hand." The "they" in this case was "prosectutions", because your text directly quoted what I wrote on prosecutions. It was not about convictions.

So no, I did not bring up John Shepperson as an example of being jailed. I brought him up as an example of being prosecuted. Which was exactly the issue you said happened fewer than 6 times.

You write "Anyone who contests the fines see them dissolved".

I did point out that "78 gas stations and other businesses" in GA were fined. I suppose you'll say they weren't contested and dissolved because it was cheaper to pay the fine than to contest.

But honestly, I don't care. I want to know how anti-gouging laws are "of dubious constitutional basis", not how they are of dubious effectiveness.

You have yet to address that issue.
My main problem with it isn’t so much productivity (if anything I’m possibly a little more productive). It’s more the isolation (not helped by the fact that my country is now closing everything down). The only person I’ve talked to in person since Wednesday was a supermarket cashier. Assuming this goes on for a few months I have serious doubts about my ability to stay sane.
> Most sites these days ask Security questions and it is no longer a single click from email.

yes, i noticed. especially apple itunes/icloud. I hate them. And i consciously choose to avoid sites like these.

I prefer sites that mail you a one time token to reset your password (and also log you in automatically). Or you can just copy the password once, and do the login for that one session.
As someone who is on my feet all day everyday working with metal, probably inhaling bad fumes, no healthcare no benefits: that font is absolutely gouging my eyes out homie
Considering how long it takes to become interactive on anything that's not Chrome, I'd hardly call it a working product.
Not trying to be a huge ass here, but that's what I meant with this:

> probably a segment of small mid-sized businesses to prey upon making apps with this

There's a bunch of poorly run, but funded start ups, and mid sized businesses, that are literally powered by excuses. Very likely anything built with this is powering the train of excuses, not solutions. I'd go so far as to point out that Streak made it... Meaning they're obviously trying to branch out because their market isn't shit; which means, your potential market, is a segment of shit... (well as far as this site's scaling model is concerned).

If you want a lifestyle business (which I think is perfectly freakin' awesome)... sure, maybe (read: not) this is for you. But even then... it's a lot of risk for something you could probably do with one or two people. Just look at the fucking SDK changes; yeah GMail doesn't necessarily break shit, but... they (streak) do. How is that any better than your own set of brittle scripts which you have to maintain multiple times a week?

I think this is a gimmick at best, and at worst it'll completely waste someone's time and money.
The fatality rate is only as low as 0.5-0.9% in countries that aggressively locked down, quarantined, and built temporary medical facilities in order to flatten the curve so health care facilities could keep up with urgent cases.

In places where no aggressive action is taken, fatality rates are much, much higher (3-5%) — because otherwise treatable cases can not be treated, and the marginally more ill die for lack of treatment.

The difference between 0.9% and 3% of the US population (per Census.gov ~329 million estimate) is 6.9 million people.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-peop...
Interestingly, to my surprise, social distancing appear more effective than lockdown (in part because full lockdowns are impossible). At least according to this simulation:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-si...

The success of Hong Kong and Taiwan look like extensions of the social distancing paradigm to me.

Of course, maybe UK government recognizes that the its citizens are equally incapable of effective social distancing. Whatever the case, this looks like madness.
Possibly because its common sense no country is really prepared for anything like that, doesn't matter the overall medical situation, and private companies who have infrastructure already help out if they can everywhere in the world right now.
and in numbers by Irish TV https://mobile.twitter.com/mattzarb/status/12387775882623385...

UK is planning on culling its population by at least 277K.
In discussing similar issues around this crisis, I noticed that "Things that seem extreme today will, in just a few days, seem obvious, under-done, and late."

Thinking of the cancelation of the NBA season an how Mark Cuban's response was thar it seemed "crazy" and "surreal". Now, it seems obvious and late.

Don't wait - tell everyone now to work from home, prep like mad, and isolate hard.

The damage will be far less than anyone getting it. You'll also get down that critical learning curve far faster.

Congratulations, Good luck, stay well.
> This is the most important one.

Like what everyone already said here; it depends on the person. For me that does not work.

I start work at home when I wake up, which can be 3 am or 1 pm and I work until I do not feel like it anymore, which can be 1 hour or 20 hours. Been doing that for 25+ years (not sure what the average is but I would say around 7 hours), works fine.
Lessons on social distancing from the 1918 flu pandemic
"I don't understand the HN hivemind that American companies wanting to help out Americans is a bad thing. "

In no way do I feel that way. But, I personally don't need anything from large corporate America bullshitting about the seriousness of what lay ahead. Reactions, particularly from grociers and retailers just in the last two days have been surprisingly good though.

Still, I don't need an article or website giving me a status update, I need to know where I can get tested.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen any vb code which actually checks that, though,or dry little, certainly. In C and Go you get something returned, which is a hint that you should maybe do something with it. In VB a magic global variable is set, and then generally ignored.
Thank you. I love learning about new subcultures like this.
Do you host your own server for brokering connections between users? How do you manage it?
It's somewhat arbitrary, but you can't start from "patient zero" because that's not usually known. And the detailed circumstances of the first few patients matter. By 100 or so, the disease is in the population and starts to behave statistically. That's what's called "community spread".
I worked on the ancestor to these machines over at Abbott. There’s nothing in whole blood or serum that will spontaneously aerosolize and get into the air.

The tests are detecting levels of antigens, antibodies, or DNA in the sample. The samples are manipulated with disposable parts to prevent crossover.
What is a Learning experience platform (LXP)? And 5 benefits of using it
A modern implement would be the Dutch Carver https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1029074_carver-one-tilt-...
After the WW2, cheap commercial cars were in demand in Europe, so Italy had small pickups or vans such as Piaggio Ape or Innocenti Lambro that are based on Vespa and Lambretta scooters (which happen to be initially designed by the same guy). You can see lots of them in 50s Italian movies. Updated models are still sold or produced in India.

Later on, microcars are pretty much scooters or bikes with cabs. These days, some ultra-lightweight sports cars such as Polaris Slingshot may be registered as motorcycles due to having practically no safety features expected from a car (in the US, there's also an ‘autocycle’ option for three-wheeled vehicles).
They do seem to be missing Denmark though, which should stick out somewhere top-left of Norway.

I was just talking, via text, to a friend in Norway. They're going for major restrictions on contact and the people there are not worried enough yet. I sent her that graph.
I noticed NPR commentators in the US (particularly younger, progressive ones) love the adjective "problematic."

Upon reflection in the car, I literally have no idea what information they're trying to convey via its use. It seems obviously defined on its face, but problematically lacking when one tries to characterize it in detail.

Are you saying it's bad? Wrong? Unjust? I have no idea!
When Epidemics Wreaked Havoc in America
we need more people scared actually, so we change behavior. the people not scared and still acting like normal are propagating the problem.
I can't immediately find a source with a date, but I'm pretty sure using submarine to mean undisclosed happened before Paul Graham was born.
The Lisp Machine actually supported at least two languages that I know of; Lisp Machine lisp and later they added Common Lisp.

Common Lisp is a very good multi-paradigm language; it can accommodate any style of program you want to write. It's designed so that you can extend it to be the right language for your problem, rather than to be a good language for one type of program.

Integrating a non-lisp language wouldn't be impossible, but might be hard. How would Haskell's type inference work when you're calling a Lisp function? What would happen if a C program dereferenced a pointer to a Lisp object? There are no immediately obvious answers to these questions, although these days there are precedents.
I see your "abundance of caution" and raise you a

"thank you for your anticipated cooperation"
You may be absolutely correct and it would still be legal slavery.

This is also generally not labour for the community in the general sense - there is an entity drawing a profit from prison labour (the state if it’s a publicly owned prison, or the prison owners if it’s privately owned). What you describe would be community service, which you may be able to argue is not slavery (and I would say is also an acceptable form of punishment for some crimes if it reduces recidivism).
This is a global health crisis that happens to impact millions of workers who are now worried they might contract coronavirus or they might lose their jobs if they were in some of the more impacted industries.

To be shorting and attacking the economy and businesses during this time (all businesses are interconnected, especially ones that provide food/energy/medical supplies) and be so distrustful of efforts to help ramp up testing and saving lifes, it’s just wrong.

I happen to know many people who works in cruise industries and hospitality. These folks are worried sick right now. Those people are who you are shorting
My point was not about whether people are incapable of understanding exponentials, it was about whether they understand them intuitively. You used the term “reflexive response” but what we’re both describing is intuitive or automatic thinking.

Why is it relevant that people don’t correctly apply exponential reasoning automatically? Because when people encounter information in everyday life (outside of the specific job they’ve been trained to do) they tend to use intuitive thinking predominantly. This matters a hell of a lot when it comes to making political decisions of a technical nature, such as infectious disease planning and response. Lo and behold, this is the exact problem the Italians are trying to warn everyone about!
TLDR: turbo charged

Build turbocharged Honda K20A (20 year old engine) does 500whp.

>Koenigsegg says, in theory, a naturally aspirated TFG could make 280 horsepower.)

again just like build K20A NA :)
Many people travel between UK and Canada.
Amazon Prime Will Falter During Coronavirus Crisis, Experts Say
Covid-19 Response – Removing trial limits to help people work securely from home
What makes this better than Anki, SuperMemo, or the many other programs already out there with excellent interface and addon support?