skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It takes a pretty long time to die from starvation. Doubly so for your average American. :)
Infect all politicians - see how they change...
What sort of software?

You could try http://jeffreykingston.id.au/khe/ which is free.

You can try it online at http://jeffreykingston.id.au/cgi-bin/hseval.cgi
Total financial collapse, asset holders wiped out.
I guess I'm speaking from a Los Angeles perspective. Our stores are literally empty for most staples and any reduction in deliveries is going to make this an actual problem.
> Intent shouldn't matter here, if you swindle money from a consumer (as in they don't get what they paid for), consumer protection laws should be written and enforced to protect these folks.

Yes and no, intent always matters. Did his claim clarify that the juice or whatever it is works only if the person has some belief? Then his intent to defraud can be proven by showing the consumers had true belief (witnesses).

Was it poisnous or harmful? Protect these folks? Like you or the law gets to protect people from their own beliefs?

Charlatans? So you want to prosecute authenticity of people's beliefs? Ethical? Since when is the law ethical or enforcer of ethics?

If you read my original comment, if fraud can be proven then that's that, I have no problem against that. But under what condition did he claim it would work? How many homeopathic medicines can you find at CVS, is that also fraud? Then why not pick on the national chains committing fraud. That's why I say this makes be very uncomfortable because the fact that he is saying some belief lead him to conclude it will cure is what is being challenged,not the mere ineffectiveness of the cure.

You can sell a homeopathic or herbal medicine that will cure cancer right now in any state without any legal issues. Being unethical is not a crime and if it is most people are going to prison.
So people are willing to accept small negative rates if it would be less than the operational costs of shipping enormous truckloads of bills around, storing them, securing them, and insuring them against theft / fire? Is that's what's going on here?
The virus seems to be causing potentially life-long lung damage in many more cases that it kills. On top of that, a saturated healthcare system is not providing treatment for anyone with anything that's less survivable than a Covid-19 in a relatively young and otherwise healthy person.
It’s totally insane if you ask me.
Given the choice between hand sanitizer and soap, always go for the soap.

It is more effective against viruses.
I could see Amazon doing it if they were ready to launch their rumoured healthcare push.
Good ride up in an amazon warehouse pissing into bottle while keeping the hourly box rate at the demanded level, you mean.

Local economies are strong economies. Look at the netherlands with its 1.5 million small business owners. If amazon goes down, nobody cares. If amazon goes down in the US, metropolitan people won't even know where to purchase catfood.
Honestly, I think the people losing their jobs now are in a much better position than those facing uncertainty or not realizing it could happen to them.

Start getting unemployment now before that system becomes overwhelmed. I am not optimistic for state and local government to implement remote work.
I don't understand casual use of the word flu in relation to this pandemic. Even if it was "just a flu" in terms of impact, it would be needlessly confusing.
Whats wrong with back patting? They did a good job
Chinese executive who called Xi a 'clown' over coronavirus response 'is missing'
"We helps you effortlessly hire world-class remote talents."
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We help you effortlessly hire world-class remote talent.
haha ya. I'm seeing this as a potential diet. :P
After 21 days, what happens?

Do we lift the quarantine? Relax it a bit? Stay in quarantine indefinitely?

What does the model look like for that? Without a full picture the initial strategy could make things worse in the long run.
What Is Flask Used For?
Game over is an exaggeration. There’s 3.4 trillion sideline cash. China’s economy collapsed 80-90% in the last month and will take months to recover, on top of exploding debts. Japan and Germany was in recession before coronavirus hit.

On the other hand, US was growing a steady 2% and had record low unemployment before this. If US can flatten the curve, with only ~3000 cases thus far, US will recover quickly and come out way ahead. And the sideline cash will rush into US
A significant fraction of the economies of the world are being shut down, which is what needs to happen short term.[1] Interest rate cuts and liquidity injections won't do much of anything about the fact that, other than mostly small ticket essentials, no one is buying, no one is selling and no one is producing much right now. At the very least, this quarter is shot and markets are just trying to price in what stalling out the economy is going to mean. The problem is, no one knows how long this will take or how quickly activity will (hopefully) recover when it's all over.

[1] If you disagree, picture this scenario: everyone went about their business as usual, vastly larger numbers of cases are reported with corresponding deaths, healthcare providers are hopelessly overwhelmed, the public starts to panic... and economies are still shutting down but due to fear.
You are of course correct. I don't know how I made such a glaring calculation error in the first place or how it slipped past me. That explains why Italy's doubling time is so close to 3 days (it's doubling every 4 days) despite being so much less than 26% growth per day. Thank you for the correction.
Thanks, but I'll stay with Email 1.0 for as long as I can. It is one of the last remaining corners of the internet that is not infested with all the human-hostile behaviors you call "features".

Centralized walled garden, bound to fail, or worse, acquired by some super-evil corp at any moment ("our wonderful journey"), packed with emojis, real-time information on who is looking at what worse than the Stasi and loss of control of your timeline is what EVERYONE ELSE ALREADY PEDDLES. These things are part of the problem, not part of the solution. For fuck's sake, leave email alone.
> Printing our way out of 2008-2010 is exactly what we did that worked

Have a look at any country in history that printed it's way out of trouble, and see how that worked out for them in the longer term.

Zimbabwe is a good recent one to look at.
Welcome to JIT supply chains! You'd better be sure to have a month's worth of food supply at home.

From a country's POV, the stability of food production and delivery to stores is critical. Fortunately, both Italy and Wuhan prove that it can be maintained during lockdown.
Maybe that is the idea? To serve as a warning.
>the financial system is actually fine. Banks are well capitalised and stable.

No they are not. Most big European banks are technically bankrupt. Most big American banks are technically bankrupt too. The only reason people in general do not know about this is because they used a lot of financial tricks to make it look like they are healthy.

In fact, Deutsche Bank very likely had to announce that they are bankrupt this very month due to the fact they never learned from the former crisis -- causing a shockwave throughout the entire financial market worldwide, if not for COVID. Now they can just blame COVID when the entire financial system tanks.

Here's a video explaining what has been going on in Europe all these years. It will not be different for the United States (or certain parts of Asia for that matter) -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu6Em4a4pG4
After the first wave self quarantining should be able to start ramping down

It just depends on the number of cases in your local area
This may well be a good time to buy low. Take the interest rate hit for a few months and be happy you have cash on hand when opportunity knocks.
I appreciate your take.

The only point behind my recent anti CCP posts is to prevent westerners from taking Chinese numbers and information without hefty skepticism.

Also readers should consider this: China just locked down 700MM+ people for two months and shuttered it's entire GDP (80-90% according to CNBC a month ago). They are now approaching the time where they must resume some production as now critical supplies, including potentially medicine and food, are at risk of running out, as chains across the country have indisputably been disrupted.

If they are not recovering as effectively as they claim, they are effectively between a rock and a hard place - risking a second wave of infections to bring critical industry online, or risk famine and other hardship by continuing the wartime lockdown conditions.

This is exactly the kind of scenario where the CCP is possibly going to try to have their cake and eat it too - lie about recovery, including international gestures like equipment donations, in order to maintain authority, while simultaneously implementing necessary policies to resume function even risking another wave of infections.

Westerners need to understand that these perverse incentives pervade the entire society. It's like a nightmare bureaucracy governing every aspect of your life. The men at the top are "incentivized" by party leaders to report fewer infections. That Cascades downwards and you end up with absurd gaming of metrics on not just a corporate scale, but a social scale. The regional administrator of Wuhan was just replaced twice - the first one was forced out because he dared to report new infections.

Be very wary of any positive news out of China. We're seeing more of the truth as European nations lock down one by one - and soon American states, in the next 1-3 weeks. Watch.
They went through a bank, JPMorgan. The fed can lend to banks so they could execute equity purchases if they found a partner bank to actually do it.
We Pulse-Wide-Modulate a case rate that is just soo below what the strained public health system can take, prioritize the most important economic systems slowly back to life and hope that the vaccazines come just in time to end this nightmare.

After that reforms. Lots of them.
Look, I don't want to be alarmist, but the worst outcome here is not '08. It's the 1930s. This has caused material demand and supply side shocks that we haven't seen in my lifetime or my parents' lifetime.

I'm likely on the younger side of the hacker news demographic and I still believe that this is the right action to take at this moment.

We might be stuck paying it off for awhile, but I would rather deal with an inflated fed balance sheet than an entire generation of Americans coming of age during a giant economic pullback.
If the government taxed the rich and corporations it could afford it.
This is absolute speculation. How can 100,000 people dying over a course of 3-5 years be linked to the recession?

Ignoring that, the number will be higher than 100,000 if per the CDC nearly all Americans will be exposed
why 15%? It seems to me that it would trend towards 100%, maybe a bit less to account for risk averseness. Not saying you're wrong, but it is counterintuitive.
no one died of hunger in Wuhan
Yea I agree that it’s still useful like you say as just a way to screen for “higher risk” individuals and have them isolate, but still food for thought.
They could probably just close the tasting rooms and sell beer to-go, and if they have distribution, to retailers.
In that case, the recession began during Bush, who provided the first bailout around $800B. Obama did another bailout of similar amount.

I was talking about starting recessions, not digging out of them, so my statement holds.
"You miss 100% of the shots that you don't take" is one
Tell me about it. It's laziness if you ask me (not that anyone is, and that might be a good thing.)

I would have rather we (as an industry) focused on the developing better languages and frameworks to write our software with. Look at Go for example...

With Go I can create a single binary, produce a DEB or RPM and deploy it using Ansible. If I need to update the software I make a change and push it through the CI/CD stack, resulting in another binary, then another DEB/RPM, then an updated set of servers. I then restart a service... so hard /s

If I need to run micro services, then, you know, just run them? They're all statically linked, singular binaries on disk. If I need to run 500 of them, then I just run them. Each gets whatever port it can find and registers its self with (something like) Consul and just like that, I'm DNS query or an API call away from knowing what services I have, where they are and what port to talk to them on.

I believe we should be focusing on making those processes better, not just adding more complex layers on top of simple solutions.

I know K8s has its benefits, but I believe the same benefits can be realised easily enough without the complexities that K8s brings. Obviously I can't outline them here in a comment on HN, but I am working on providing a POC in the near future.

EDIT: and to those down voting me: that's also lazy. Cognitive laziness. Prove me wrong. Also, I don't care about Internet Points, I care about the truth and finding what's true. I wish you the best of luck though.
These are good points. I hope the disease's course in the world to date proves more typical of the pandemic from here on out than its course in Italy, which is substantially more alarming.
Which financial institution are you referring to here?
China may be able to do regular lockdowns. I can’t see that happening in the west. Lockdown needs to be a one time shot at the right time, but getting the right time is painfully hard when there is no way to know how many have the virus but not yet testing positive or showing symptoms.
sorry for the that, i'll edit it now. Thanks
Is Trump's Coronavirus Website Ready?
I agree. I have a bunch of little modules published on npm, and for all of them, I have a yarn.lock (or package-lock.json) lockfile committed in the git repo, but also listed in .npmignore so it's not part of the package published on npm. I do this so that all of the test/dev dependencies stay pinned to guaranteed working/tested versions, and so that there's a record of which versions of (non-dev) dependencies the library is known to work with. Here's a bunch of painful problems that happen when you don't check in your lockfile:

* One of the most frustrating things in the world is checking out a git repo that's missing any lockfiles and then finding out that its build script or unit tests are broken with the current versions of the dependencies, so you're blocked on doing any work with the repo until you fix that. The extra frustrating thing is that people who previously checked out the repo (including the maintainer) won't run into this issue, so this issue will fall onto new contributors and be an obstacle to them specifically!

* The next worst thing is getting a report from a user that your library no longer works with the current versions of its dependencies, and you don't even know which dependency is the problem or know of a good version of the dependency it worked with.

Putting the lockfile in .gitignore opens you up to the two above issues, and then barely helps. Your CI system isn't going to re-run your tests when your dependencies or sub-dependencies get updates. You're going to have to set that up separately and then you could set that process up to ignore or update your lockfile so it's not a reason to git-ignore your lockfile.
So the question really is, how many deaths are worth preventing an economic collapse.

i.e. if we can prevent collapse and it "only" requires a few tens of thousands of deaths, is that worthwhile?
thx for sharing!
I live in a small town in the mountains of Central Arizona. Since we get 1.5 million tourists a year, I expect things here to be similar to large cities in the US elsewhere.

Most friends in town have adopted a fairly complete social distancing protocol in the last few days. This happened abruptly, no one seemed to be doing it a week ago.

While social distancing helps, we should have had testing infrastructure in place much sooner. I am happy to blame Trump, and democratic and Republican Congress critters for that. A good six minute interview: https://twitter.com/azeem/status/1238734048018792449

EDIT: I posted this comment hoping to see comments from other people in the US on whether or not people were largely social distancing in their communities.
Everyone hand picks their loved ones in a pinch. We are all very picky.
As an emergency on a Sunday is a huge deal. It's a gigantic panic button that was just pressed
What if stocks dropping was mostly due to people selling their holdings?
I too had a million monkeys with typewriters type of experience looking at this
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>The problem with "you can roll your own language constructs" is that, er, everybody wants to roll their own language constructs

What are methods and classes
in a language like Java? Those are "roll your own constructs" as well.

In lisp code you can define your own functions and macros, yet the end still looks like lisp code.
In general, almost no one is being tested at this time. That's your answer.

If you are extremely sick, high fever, persistent cough, and quickly deteriorating then go to the hospital you may be tested.
How long has the panic shopping been going on? In Poland, when it started, it cleared out the basic long shelf life goods (rice, pasta, etc.) and TP from most of the cheaper stores for about two to three days. For some reason, some kinds of meat also disappeared. But it seems to be going back to normal now.

If after couple of days your stores are still empty of most staples, it suggests some serious problems higher up in the supply chain.
Shameless plug, I'm building an open source multiplatforn clone for tinytask (not as lightweight though) https://github.com/rmpr/atbswp
Kinda buried the lede there buddy. I'd have reversed the order of those two sentences...
TV and radio are broadcasted top down, and their power does not depend on users being able to access the rest of the world.

Functionally for our intents and purposes there is little difference between having no internet and having a national intranet which is cut off from the rest of the world and literally policed by the government. Technically the walled garden FB wanted to set up in India was "internet" too.

Plus as we've determined, the internet has spread to 60% of Chinese at best, and majority urban areas.
This is calling for a full shutdown, not self quarantine. We’re talking checkpoints, military presence to ensure compliance, protected supply chains and rationing.

The model has to account for a long term strategy (6-12 months) to keep the mortality rate down and the global economy operating, or we open ourselves to even greater risks.
> Relax it a bit?

Looks like it will work like that. This may lead to some undetected transmission, but hopefully the amount of more serious cases should be low enough that the healthcare system will be able to cope. More severe measures can be restored quickly in areas where community transmission is detected.
That's kind of the thought, yes. Negative rates should not be sustainable for any significant period of time and most interest rate models are built on that assumption.
Like the second wave of COVID-19 next winter?
"or simply writing cheques to people directly"

"There's no sense in being cheap at this point in time."

See this is the problem -> money does not grow on trees.

We can't just 'keep writing cheques'.
The lockdown must be kept until the health system can cope with everyone's health problems. Then, you slowly lift it to ensure it doesn't saturate again, as that would mean a need for another full lockdown.
What are relevant UK authorities saying? Who’s at the wheel here, politicians or authorities/experts?
Be more self sufficient,localize production
Those are buzzwords, not requirements. You can find all those terms used to describe Oracle. They don’t point to a NoSQL solution.
Oh I don't know. They could stop spending trillions on wars around the world and spend it on looking after their own citizens instead.
I built something very similar to tinytask https://github.com/rmpr/atbswp
Also, people have to remember that any kind of pause will take along time to recover from. Businesses can't just start back up and immediately make up for the lack for production. They might be able to increase their production 10-20% in any given month but that means 5-10 months to make up for a single month of lack of production. And China has been down for 4 months...
Pandemia: A telecommunication system inspried from pandemic phenomena
Deep learning helped scientists discover a novel antibiotic
Internet exposed bastion hosts to production, that have no IP whitelisting are not the best idea, unfortunately not uncommon nowadays.
I mean, if you put it like the guy you replied to then I'm not surprised. The potential for 6+ million deaths over the course of a half a year is beyond horrifying to anyone whose is not a sociopath.
I am building a clone though https://github.com/rmpr/atbswp
It is a bit like comparing interest rates on your credit card balances while still spending more than you earn: we may not get much choice about what is done in 21 days, but we have to stop the bleeding now either way.
Germany tries to stop U.S. poaching German firm seeking coronavirus vaccine
I submitted this as a new story but it's worth repeating here: here in Seattle, we're already Italy [0]. The hospitals are having to provision ECMO machines based on demographic prognosis, and the respirators are probably only a couple days behind. Presumably this will be the situation in every major American city 2 weeks from now.

[0]: https://twitter.com/scott_mintzer/status/1239290389963714562
What happened to the previously top comment and chain here and why was it removed?
20 years is natural lifespan of a cow. Supposedly 2030 is some kind of limit for climate change.
But that's not due to delivery disruption - nobody stopped the trucks, and nobody's planning to. It's due to people hoarding (either by panic or greed).

If groceries aren't back to normal in a week, I can easily see state troopers mobilized to guard every supermarket and make sure nobody buys twenty boxes of Bounty. Yes, it would look silly and would grate the nerve of free market enthusiasts, but in an emergency you go for effectiveness, not prettiness.
The article sugarcoats some terms to increase readability. Here's the paper if you want raw spinach: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30102-1?_re...
You can have a pretty good idea of that here: https://github.com/rmpr/atbswp, it's a clone I am building on my spare time.
>Lisp-2 is typically Common Lisp.

However Common Lisp is a lisp-n, it has at least 5 namespaces: functions, symbols, keywords, classes, signals, packages...
"So far, successful mitigaions in China/Korea have involved near-complete shutdown, very early in the epidemic, around the time of 100 confirmed cases."

From what I read, South Korea shut down almost nothing but had widespread testing available, including drive-through testing where people could sit in their car, get tested and receive the results via SMS next day. They also had the ability to very proactively search and locate people that had been potentially exposed to the virus via credit card transaction/location data.
You just have to create an account. They still push you to the subscription page but the content doesn’t require it.
From personal experience Cromix was written in 6502 assembly language. The comments were all in C but personal computers were not fast enough to run a C OS in 1979. I doubt it was licensed since they reverse engineered the API (which is legal). I actually learned C by reading the comments.

Small piece of history - Cromix was written single handedly by Roy Harrington who left Cromemco to found Informix.

Having said that - Mesa/XDE was awesome. I am sure Mesa/Cedar was even better.
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