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Tesla says autopilot works but that driver should be ready to intervene. This is terrifying - like having a kid riding shotgun that might just reach out and turn the wheel while you are on the highway.

Anyone who has driven with autopilot, how quickly might it react to a perceived obstacle? Would it take a hard turn into a median faster than a person could reasonably react if it thought there was something in the road or that the road took a hard left?

Edit Ready to intervene can mean a lot of things - ready to take over in traffic or inclement weather vs firm grip on the wheel to resist rogue hard turns

Actual quote from the article

>Tesla says Autopilot is intended to be used for driver assistance and that drivers must be ready to intervene at all times.
> In fact, the price of a movie ticket hasn’t gone up much in the last 90 years. In 1929, a ticket was $0.35; today, it’s $9. Adjusted for inflation, that’s a fairly reasonable price increase of 108%.

I'm sorry but how is a 100% price increase considered "reasonable"? Inflation is already meant to account for the reasonable price increase. I don't think the rest of the moviegoing experience has changed enough to justify a 100% premium compared to 1925.
Yup. I have an Erdős number, but despite being a Bacon, no Bacon number to my great dismay.
Start with scratch. Mine could do scratch at 7.
> One specific example of antitrust that wasn't handled properly was the Bombardier

Bombardier is a foreign company that is heavily subsidized by the Quebec Pension Fund.

They probably were dumping.

I don't see how anti-trust applies here.

The CSeries is a fascinating story with so many twists and turns - almost unbelievable if it was a fiction novel!

The CSeries probably did not have a viable marketing and support story against Boeing.

If you want to get wound up, then the Boeing/Embraer Civil lashup is truly anti-competitive.
Think of LSP as being like semver for inheritance: A derived class can add new behavior, but it can't make any breaking changes.
My favorite Erdős trivia is that he was an avid amphetamine user.

Erdős’s friends worried about his drug use, and in 1979 Graham bet Erdős
$500 that he couldn’t stop taking amphetamines for a month. Erdős accepted,
and went cold turkey for a complete month. Erdős’s comment at the end of the
month was “You’ve showed me I’m not an addict. But I didn’t get any work done.
I’d get up in the morning and stare at a blank piece of paper. I’d have no
ideas, just like an ordinary person. You’ve set mathematics back a month.”
He then immediately started taking amphetamines again

My man.

https://www.untruth.org/~josh/math/Paul%20Erd%F6s%20bio-rev2...
Ask HN: Would you fill out a survey after rejecting a job candidate?
If you rejected me for an interview or position, or I did not hear back after a while, would you fill out a short survey to help me improve?

The questions would be multi-choice, e.g. poor impression of CV, insufficient experience, insufficient qualifications, large number of applicants, etc. May also gauge how likely you would be to assess the candidate for a position in the future.
China could simply embargo Huawei support contracts and leave a bunch of network equipment with unpatched CVEs
I've always found contactless to be significantly faster than insert and more reliable than swipe - have you not found the same thing?
Oh, really? Last time this came up people were saying you couldn't send $50 to your friend's bank account without something crazy like a $15 fee, and hence everyone apparently used a third-party app like Venmo.
Well, the reason I bring it (the moral judgment) up is that in the comment I replied to we see the usual "whataboutism" being invoked, and that leads naturally to the domain of moral judgments by implicitly strawmanning the opposing position that the Chinese government is bad and the American government is good so we should accept the latter doing shitty things but not the former.

I mean, why else would you bring it up at all? No shit, governments are going to spy on people ... it's still useful and interesting to know which governments are doing the spying, and how, and who's accusing who of what (which is obviously not the same thing). It's newsworthy even without moral judgment. But the whataboutism drags morals into the picture.

I agree with your comment in the sense that it is a reasonably accurate description of reality and some notions of "should" in the (very fuzzy) [international] legal sense.

On the other hand, assuming that future people will have to live under both regimes, and given that "cyber-intrusions" are moves in a greater conflict that is likely to escalate and has profound implications for the future shape of human society and thought, I think it's quite useful to bring morals into the picture if one of our goals is to maximize good outcomes and minimize bad outcomes for other humans.
Don't text and autopilot on level 3, which is a nascent technology. An engineer should know better. Wonder why a level 3 is allowed to market as an 'autopilot'.
".. and whether large tech companies are making potentially anticompetitive acquisitions of nascent or potential competitors that fall below HSR filing thresholds and therefore do not need to be reported to the antitrust agencies."

Forgive me, but isn't this pretty much how it's run? Smother your competition with cash and hope they all retire, and absorb their IP? Isn't this also one version of the startup dream?
I don't see the reason both can't be done. Historically, prosperous societies produce more art. We may not be producing as much art in classicly prestigious formats like paintings, pottery, etc. But one look at the entertainment industry seems to refute the idea that art needs to be sponsored. I simply don't see why we give this significance to certain forms of art as if they fill a societal hole that no other format could. Your example of comedy was perfect because the manifestation and growth of standup comedy is a good example of how new arts can come into being without needing some sort of state sponsored intervention.
It's like "let's take a decent basic page layout AND COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY AND GRATUITOUSLY FUCK IT UP."

(Yeah, I know, HN doesn't like screaming. Bite.)

https://outline.com ... handles "theoutline.com" pretty well.
Is the lack of checks and balances a necessary feature of a socialist government, or is it just that the Soviet Union didn't have checks and balances, by design?
IMHO the fault ultimately lies with Caltrans. Poorly drawn lane markers resulted in a human driver hitting the barrier just days before destroying the arresting system. If the lanes had been painted correctly and the arresting system replaced the Tesla driver would not have died.
Between resolution, sound, comfort, quality, and selection, it's not hard for me to imagine that the modern movie theater experience is at least 2x the value of what people had in 1925.

I pay 2x the cost of matinee tickets just to attend in the evening, and almost 2x of that to get a reclining seat as a "VIP" ticket.

I can't even imagine how much someone's mind would be blown if you showed them what we had in 2020.

1925-guy would have his mind blown in 2020 where you can watch any movie you want on a screen that fits in your pocket and only pay a whole 2x more than he has to pay for the ritzy experience of watching it in a modern movie theater.

Claiming injustice over a 108% price increase over the period of a century for a movie ticket in an HN thread is actually cracking me up.
Wanna talk about quarantine fails?

Japan let some of their repatriates loose without quarantine because they had "important reasons". They went home, and while invited to stay home, who knows what they did in the two weeks since... Today it was announced that one of them was now positive for 2019-nCoV.

One of the quarantine workers on the Diamond Princess (the cruise ship stuck in quarantine in Yokohama) was found positive. Now they have to track his family too.
Isn't it likely there'd be extra scrutiny on anything you do if you think you're about to lose front-door access?
Have you seen movies from the 1930s? Not the few classics, but typical movies? Ponderous slow messes, by modern standards. Movies of the 2010s are more than 108% better.
The text of a recipe is protected by copyright, just like the source code for a computer program is protected.

A mechanical transformation of the recipe (say, converting it to all caps, or changing the font) will still be protected as a derivative work, just like the binaries for a computer program are protected as a derivative work.

A re-phrasing of the recipe in someone else's words which results in the same dish is not protected, just like a re-implementation of a piece of software is not protected.
Tesla should not be allowed to market their cars as self driving or call the product autopilot. It’s a fancy driver assist system that will sometimes kill you if you actually take Tesla marketing bullshit at face value.
What webpage that you frequently use takes up to a minute to load? I can't think of a single one I've used over the past year.
Even open and free hardware needs a support contract. Your open and free 5G radio ain't gonna patch itself. Whoever is supporting it needs to have some sort of a guarantee that they will continue to be providing those updates for the expected lifetime of the device.
IANAL, but this seems like a good video response topic for a copyright attorney such as Leonard French.
Oh yeah, you should come drive on Montreal roads. Lane markers don't exist.
This is all conjecture.

You don't know that the driver would still be alive if the lanes were painted correctly etc.

Autopilot could still misidentify the barrier as we've seen it do in other situations.
Deleting half a sentence and saying it doesn't make sense?

The way "average" works is that you average over something - a population or set. It is very important to be clear about what that something is and whether it's appropriate.

Why do you believe that Autopilot outperforms humans in comparable conditions? If this is based on Tesla marketing, I'm extremely prejudiced against them, and assume out of hand that they simply aren't making the right comparison and don't care. However, if you think that is incorrect, you could elaborate on why you have the opinion you do.
OK, so reckless endangerment is a crime.[0] It's especially serious when weapons are involved, and when children are endangered. How does that not apply?

Except, of course, that there's no body with the requisite authority or power. But maybe someday there will be.

0) https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/reckless-enda...
This is sad and tragic.

I remember going with a friend on a Tesla test drive. He was eager to try the Autopilot system. And within a few minutes we got freaked out with what seem to us as unpredictable action and we turned it off.

I think the engineer should have never relied on it. Especially if he had concerns with the system.

At the same time, "Autopilot" is misleading and Tesla does own responsibility here. Even if it's purely a marketing term it's designed to up sell you on a half-baked technology.

They should call it "Driver assist" or something like "cruise control plus".

It's a heartbreaking story.
I think an auto driving system needs to have a higher margin of safety than a human driver, not the same or worse.
I don't think I implied it's easy. I commented because whataboutism drags us into moral territory, and having been so dragged we should attempt to form robust moral judgments rather than making do with hey, man, like, it's all relative, you know?
Because it is a monopoly.
You do agree there’s a difference between Enlightenment principles and authoritarian governments? Not that the US is perfect but they at least acknowledges the concept of natural rights. Relativism is a rather dangerous worldview.
Spoilers: it's precisely the reason everybody already knows. This article was a waste of time, it might as well say that water is wet.
> Remove, and re-add a card to your digital wallet and you'll get a new DPAN.

Has anyone made a habit of rotating DPANs on a regular basis like this? Does Apple or your bank get irritated at some point?
Real choices (if you live in America) are (1) American government only or (2) American and Chinese governments both. As a resident of Canada, my choices are (1) Canadian and American, or (2) Canadian and Chinese.
Checksumming in filesystems, and why ZFS is doing it right
I rented a Tesla Model S from Enterprise recently and learned they don’t enable Autopilot due to liability issues.
Any sort of window is a compromise for structure and weight. I think in future we'll see even usual design aircraft to ditch windows.

I certainly would welcome better cameras and better flight info (something that I can connect tho via my own device). Or larger, wider angle windows around bathrooms, bars or other places people go to fight deep vein thrombosis.

That said I've always wondered why business/first in double deckers don't have windscreen. That would be an amazing experience.
Not only is the actual authentication faster, most of the time when I use Apple Pay signature is not required. Even with large transactions it blasts right through and prints out a no-signature receipt.

It's all stuff which I never cared much about but definitely enjoy when it works right. It doesn't hurt that with the Apple Card I get 2% cash back when I use the phone.
breaking news from 2018? there’s nothing new here, including the deceased driver’s alleged complaints.
There is significantly more money inside that walled garden. Just a more qualified customer base in terms of willingness to pay.
I generally size my browser so that the viewport is roughly square - a wide squat browser usually leaves acres of margin, or on sites that don't have decent margin, enormously long lines that are all but impossible to read.

A square viewport on a widescreen monitor leaves loads of space for a sidebar.
I was hoping there’d be a software based solution, with templates and such. Kind of like Canva for videos.
Liability should always lie with the self driving car. In the real world weird shit happens on roads, people adapt and are expected to adapt. What good is a car that I can't trust to be at least as reliable as an overly defensive version of myself?
I think the problem is not that the car is cut off, its that the cut-off portion of the car isn't labeled. If that's your training data, then you're training the system to interpret cut-off bits of cars as not cars.
Five drivers hit the same barrier the year before the Tesla accident and a second human piloted vehicle fataly struck the same barrier just two months after the Tesa crash.

It is absolutely a road design and maintenance issue.
Someone born today could co-author a paper with anyone who co-authored a paper with Erdos, and also appear in a film with Kevin Bacon, giving them a EB number of 3.
Every world power for the past couple of millenia: Let's spy on other world powers and try to prevent them from spying on us.
If human drivers are getting killed in the same spot the same is it still a vehicle saftey problem?
This article has made me decide to never mistake Huawei's ties to Chinese government surveillance for US political nonsense ever again.

I may not like our current US president, but it doesn't mean he can't use truths as political instruments.

Due to China's and Russia's human rights abuses, they are who I dislike the most. It might be by a small margin, but I would feel more comfortable having the CIA and NSA spy on me any day, than China or Russia.

What's wild is that I know many in China would feel the same way - but in the reverse.
GM calls theirs Super Cruise which is true hands-free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxeK0F-D3gg
Short sellers on HN !
TLDR: theaters don't make money on tickets, they earn their profit on concessions. I thought everyone already knew this, why write an article of masturbatory length about it?

Also, the article says "Less than 10% of the US population goes to the movies, compared to 65% in 1930. And those who do go are attending less: In 2018, the average moviegoer paid for only 3.5 tickets, down from 4.9 tickets in 2002"

... but there were over a billion tickets sold in the US last year, so that math does not check out. Lazy writing, stupid writer.
really ?

have you looked at how most of the smartphones, clothes or even food are made ?

I can't even say if your comment is supposed to be satire
Makes you wonder how many companies these 5 companies have bought over the years.
Logic Chip, Heal Thyself
Distributed Data for Microservices – Event Sourcing vs. Change Data Capture
I can think of a small set of cases where animations are useful. Icons, not directly being acted on are NOT those. Wholehearted agreement with you.

Among the exceptions:

- Sensory feedback. A hue/shade change on hover, and on click, can be useful. For action commands (as @Animats describes) some indication of the action performed can be useful.

- Pending / in-process actions. If you've kicked off something that takes more than a second or so to complete, then a subtle animation indicating activity can be useful. "Loading" animations fall under this. Though a first consideration should be to not require pending actions.

- Highlighting associated context, especially in help / support scenarios. If you're describing an icon, then, yes, go ahead and have it animate then and only then as a finding aid.

- Data visualisations. No, not icons, but presentations showing some level of change that can be represented as in time. Here, SVGs can be useful (though also abused). Interactive charts, animations, etc., when directly engaged with (animate-on-hover is a CSS hack I've long applied to GIFs, though that's achieved by rendering all GIFs tansparent unless hovered).

But the whole notion that icons should sit spinning on your page when you're doing nothing with them? Nope nope nope nope NOPE!!!

If sites start doing that routinely, I'll simply block SVGs on them. Breakage be damned.

(TFA itself was virtually unreadable for me for just this reason.)
The scary thing about this attitude is that if it's widely adopted and results in Huawei being welcomed (or something that facilities spying), it puts the people who do push back against the Chinese government in the crosshairs.
On the flip-side I feel like Tesla has done a good job distinguishing Autopilot from their Full Self Driving package.

Autopilot is a mashup of safety features (lane-assist, cruise-control, etc).

We can debate all day how you feel about the name, but that seems petty and you're even wrong about that. The name fits perfectly, look up the definition to autopilot.

Edit: no hero cape here, just a different opinion. I know, crazy! It's almost if you guys root for the automobile/oil industry sometimes you hate Elon so much.

The media is a powerful tool, scary to see it work on HN readers. They got you guys to hate the one guy that actually is fixing the problems. It's not a crazy conspiracy theory if you believe the power the automobile and oil industry have.
Doesn't cover users per bank, but the Google/Apple support docs are usually thorough. In Canada, Apple Pay has about three times (48) as many supporting banks as Google Pay (15). The Apple support is mostly a longer tail - four of the five largest banks support both. (With TD as the holdout that supports Apple Pay and only their own app on Android.) For me, that works out to 5 banks supporting both Google/Apple Pay, 3 supporting Apple Pay only, 2 supporting nothing.

Google Pay: https://support.google.com/pay/answer/7405561?hl=en
Apple Pay: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204916#canada
This is good to know. I was planning to rent one to show my family when they visit.
Yes and also has the benefit of moving the infrastructure from the establishment to the customer. Anyone can print out a QR code and accept mobile payments vs a dedicated hardware solution.
It's the same kind of distraction as autoplaying videos or picture-in-picture annoyances like YouTube's auto-minimizing window. The mechanism is the same. It's a thing moving in some part of the screen and being distracting, only in this case they provide even less value since they're nothing more than decorative doodads.

There isn't even an argument that doodads like these can placed on websites in an attempt to monetize users, like ads, where all the debate about sustainable sources of revenue and the ethics of adblocking come into play. They serve no material purpose at all except to be distracting.

Animations of any kind, even the ones that are finite in lifespan or simple page transitions, already annoy me greatly. If we lose this front, where random businesses start adding things like this only because the web platform has sufficiently advanced technologically to allow it, and a majority of users become desensitized into believing it is "cool" and shifting the the baseline of the web such that this majority now expects and might even want this kind of behavior, it would surely become another unnecessary annoyance. I feel like this has already happened with Metro/Flat design and the death of skeuomorphism (more or less), and also the overuse of animated GIFs in blogs.

But there's nothing making it outright illegal, so I'm not sure what would stop them from doing so at this point. We can't exactly go back to Web 1.0 (nor should we) - that kind of design is opt-in now.
Exactly. The article never should have been written.
From my experience, not a hard turn. The worst was it was raining and inconstant lane markings around a turn. I wondered if it was going to make the turn or if it was going to make it too late towards the sidewall.

It also takes very little interaction for it to pop out of self driving
How many drivers didn't hit the same barrier that year?

It just seems like an edge case that's catching inattentive drivers off guard, which IMHO is a category including Tesla's on autopilot. And it seems Tesla agrees here; they require drivers pay attention when using Autopilot. If your vehicle runs into a barrier on Autopilot, you weren't paying attention.
Everyone here is missing the real issue, which is money; it's not about US or China spying. It's about the trillions at stake for who owns the 5G patents. Currently 4G patents are mostly owned by Qualcomm, but if Huawei takes precedence, Huawei stands to earn trillions from equipment makers.
Last stat i saw was something along the lines of 3k people dieing in crashes everyday. I personally "almost crash" at least 4 times a day. Driving is a dangerous game.
Inbox, rather than bookmarks. Bookmarks suggest repeated visits; an open tab is something to be visited at least once, but not known to be worth keeping a link to.
Yes!! Definitely, I think it's important to help each grow regardless of whether or not you received a position. I interview about ~10 people a year for my company :)
No, they're mostly plotless, capeshit, superhero garbage flicks that pander to international audiences. To be clear though, 1930s movies are also bad. But the golden era was not the last decade.
Additionally, US cities are built for individual, single-rider automobiles. It sucks real bad, but even if 100% of americans decided that we hate cars and driving, we’re still stuck physically with thousands of acres built upon individual mobility and no mixed-use whatsoever, situations where you have to drive 3+km just to buy a soda.

It’s madness, and the madness is actually encoded into the physical structures as a sunk cost. We have to work with and around that in any practical way forward, which is terrible.
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