skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
What's your discount rate for Tesla? Now, taking that into account (profits past a certain time period are essentially discounted to 0), over what period of time should they realistically collect that money for the valuation to make sense?
You're not alone! I've been tracking /r/wallstreetbets for my new project https://topstonks.com and no one there seems to understand it. A lot of great theories though.

Out of the 6434 stock mentions in the last 24 hours ~10% of that is about TSLA and that's up 45% since yesterday.

Heres a bubble graph of the most mentioned equities over the last 7 days (as of yesterday) on /r/wallstreetbets. ignore F and C, still working on the filter :)

https://preview.redd.it/22mrpbh3g5c41.png?width=985&format=p...

Ps - we're doing our Show HN right now, feel free to come by and say hi :)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22109610
While we can hit harder limits with some resources, like Helium, I believe most resources are far more fungible and/or replaceable. That's in part why peak oil announcements seem to be habitually premature. Reserves are at a specific price or price range, so if those go up reserves tend to go up too, and the same applies to other resources.

To further complicate things, we can replace oil in different ways depending on cost and alternatives, which also depend on time. Toss in a wide variety of different priorities, and it becomes apparent why many predictions we've made tend to be inaccurate.
Short answer: because when it comes to stock market, people invest in future of the company, not its present. And Musk is unpredictable. Tesla only car allowed to drive on Mars? Why the heck not?? Who knows.

People been investing in Tesla for many years now and barely were ever disappointed unless you were shorting the stock in which case when expiry date came (futures) many were taking second mortages to clear their calls. There is too much money on the market for enough people needing to exit Tesla stock and enter something else that would possibly give them better gains over next 5-10 years, so they hold long term, making less stock moving on the floor and giving it longer stretch.
"The design has a high degree of modularity/repairabiity; they're even more field-repairable than Thinkpads."
If you know where something is going to go wrong and strategically put a print statement, how is that better than just putting a breakpoint there?
I really don’t like the “well if you feel strongly why don’t you short” argument.

I think it is insane that Tesla is worth so much. But shorting stocks is not part of the asset allocation that meets my long term goals and needs. I can certainly believe something without wanting to bet on it.
Or very low interest rates?
How quickly does the Wuhan virus spread?
> It shows that, on average, every person on Earth uses more than 13 tonnes of materials per year

I'd like to see my ~1 ton of waste, per month, please.

Even as a wasteful American, this number is so staggering that I'd like to understand more about what all that waste is. Mining tailings? Coal ash?

Certainly, my trashcan that I bring to the curb every week only has a tiny amount of my waste footprint.
There's literally no difference between a print and a breakpoint except that the print you actually have to write code while a breakpoint not only do you don't have to write code... you can see the entire program state.

There is literally no argument here. Debugging with breakpoints is categorically less work.

When you see people stepping through code it's because they don't know where the error occurred. It's the equivalent of putting print statements everywhere. You tell me which one is better.... littering your code with print statements? or breakpoints?
Note that many ozone-depleting substances were replaced by similar substances which contribute as much or more to global warming.

For instance gas dusters contain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,1,1,2-Tetrafluoroethane

There is a global effort to contain super-greenhouse gases. A lab in the building next to me has a tank of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sf6

they are careful with it because it is the most potent greenhouse gas known.

Long-term chemical companies are developing alternatives such as

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,3,3,3-Tetrafluoropropene

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novec_1230

It will make money for chemical companies for years since many of these compounds have patents that are in effect.
Another benefit is that you are essentially trading on margin when buying a house, which you couldn't do to the same degree with other assets.
If someone is using the duck for privacy, I should hope they're not using Google's Chrome and Chrome store.
Huh, I don't know if I've ever had server issues with Discord outside of the whole thing going down once or twice in the past couple years. I've heard people complain about it and it's baffling to me. Maybe it's a regional thing, which would be unfortunate, but the USW server work great as far as I can tell and I voice chat on disc almost every night for multiple hours.

I also have everything I want hotkeyed, so I still think that "far behind" is a huge stretch at best.
Yeah, it's super dumb, and makes me depressed about the world we live in.
Yes, this.

Among my earliest popular HN comments, from 2014:

Please Forward to Marketing: How to present your products to customers (or would-be customers)

https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/27d5xr/please_...

(Redrafted into a Reddit post, originally: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7489870)

I'm thinking customers isn't who these firms are talking to.
Used to have a KNex model of the ISS when growing up, it was great for someone who was dreaming of going to space :)
Do most apple hardware users use those apps? I'd imagine at least as many if not more use google photos + whatsapp or facebook messenger.
The hallmark of a "tech" company, and the reason it can have such huge valuations, is that they don't do silly and expensive things like build relatively low-margin physical objects. Tesla has not demonstrated its plans beyond that yet.
On the Path to Sustainability
Tesla has consistently said the Supercharger Network is open for any manufacturer to adapt. "

"Tesla is aware of these problems. CEO Elon Musk first floated the idea of sharing its Supercharger network in 2015, but with only a few hundred Superchargers operating at the time, the proposals did not gain any momentum."

"Tesla’s chief technology officer JB Straubel has strongly suggested that plans are now underway. He said to Electrek: ‘For things like Supercharger, we are actively talking to other carmakers and we are trying to figure out a structure to work with them.’"

From: https://autovistagroup.com/news-and-insights/tesla-points-op...

But instead of doing that, other manufacturers designed much inferior alternatives that are a UI/Customer experience nightmare to use.

Tesla Supercharger:

1. You pull up.

2. get out of the car.

3. Plug-in the cable and charge.

It's that simple and intuitive. You get billed from your Tesla account. Because the transaction is tied to your VIN.

Other EV/High Speed charging:

1. You pull up.

2. Get out of the car.

3. Figure out how to use the menu.

4. Grab your wallet to either pay via card or RFID.

5. Pay and cross your finger it works.

5. Finally you can charge.
a) hire a lawyer, what do you want us to do about it???
b) in the modern era of internet, next time embed some type of homing mechanism or simple license requirement checked in startup process to avoid unlicensed misuse.
Disclaimer, I am long TSLA. You’re right if Tesla were just a car company, but I view them as half Ford and half Exxon with their energy business. A Tesla car owner might also purchase Tesla solar panels (and eventually a solar roof) with a Tesla Powerwall.
That’s true, but the amount of discounting goes up with the years, in the limit to 100%.

If I borrow $100B and promise to return it in 50 years time, you likely would want $200B back, even if you were 100% sure I would pay it back.
Please also bear in mind that any developer's personal time (whether your own or someone else's), while important and valuable - is also a trade-off against the aggregated time and value of your users' privacy.
You do have a point here, but it doesn’t hold up when the DOJ has such an extensive history of going after other state sponsored hacking.
Small note: free to play till launch. I don't think you get them forever. That said, they're great games and playing them only makes me sad they never made a true HL3.
The important thing Tesla doesn't have that Apple does have is a 70% gross margin.
Ok. The focus of my argument was only on server-side development as php was the language of comparison... however as you mentioned javascript is easy to get started as well and more or less the only option for front end dev anyway (as typescript, coffeescript, etc are transpiled to js and webassembly has no direct dom access)...
They're not inventing any brand new technology. They're evaluating the business case for being a middle man in an oversaturated industry where both the customer and service provider want to cut out said middleman as soon as possible.
I don't classify it as a smear - it's true: control on immigration is, on varying levels, direct xenophobia. Most border policy is straight up prejudice against people based solely on the fact they aren't a citizen here, to different amounts based on the location they're coming from and the nature of their business in the receiving country.

Labelling people who voted to restrict border controls prejudiced against those who come from abroad isn't some horrific smear insult, it's merely stating the facts: they don't like "immigrant type X" and have acted accordingly.

I was also explicitly referencing my experience with those who I know who are outwardly Leave. Not once has any specific policy come up within their reasoning - broad feelings have been far and away the driver.
Elon has received billions from the US government across his companies. It'd be a slap in the face to the entire US population for Tesla to have a 100% proprietary charging network when we helped get the company going.
FBI 'persuaded Apple to halt iCloud encryption'
Well that’s refreshing.
Stephen Tayo captures the sacred kinship of Nigerian twins (2019)
I think Arethuza might have been asking which democracies have survived the self interest that was being discussed? (I assume s/he is looking for democracies that didn't end in chopped heads.)
To give a bit of historical perspective, the Macintosh IIfx was priced at $9,869 USD for 4 MB memory & 80 MB HDD in 1990. The NeXTcube was not out of line for the class of machine it was. Also, I remember someone telling me that Adobe did charge a fair bit for their Display Postscript.

I actually think one of the biggest problems was charging so damn much for the developer tools and their retail picks were less than helpful.

I got a copy of NeXTSTEP 3.3 and 4.0 with the developer tools and had a Microway server speced to run it (90MHz Pentium). It was way more fun and productive than any other machine and that includes the BeOS which was nice but felt a bit unfinished. The manuals were amazing and I wish Apple still knew how to do documentation as well as NeXT did.
Are you not familiar with javascript?
PSA: You don't have to use Google.
It's not exactly a "stunt". The vehicles aren't expected until 2021 at the earliest, but it's not vaporware.

There are over 250,000 pre-orders, but for just $100. Many of those are aspirational and won't actually turn into orders, but it demonstrates that a lot of people are interested enough to put money on the line, and many more people are interested but not willing to reserve a spot in line. Since it will take quite some time for them to produce 250,000 Cybertrucks, the pre-orders suffice to suggest that they can sell pretty much all they can produce for the first few years at least.
Environmentalism has always been a cause of the (mostly, as now, center- rather than radical-) left.

This absolutely is not true. Who is, by a massive margin, the top polluting nation right now? Communist China. The Soviets did plenty of environmental damage also. Meanwhile the Western capitalist countries are all on a downward trend for emissions.

The “rapid industrialisation at any cost” approach is an essential hallmark of socialism, always has been. Human lives are of no importance to it, let alone plants or animals.
"This isn't as unlikely as it seems" In what fantasy world do you live in?
Raise your hands, contribute to the spirit bomb.
Charging network doesn’t matter. You can charge an ev at home. The number of times you need to charge elsewhere is far far far lower than it is for internal combustion cars.

If evs are truly the future then homes and apartments will have charging.
Yes. Copy the page wholesale, and put up a notice that the other site has pirated yours, and is trying to sell your software for twice the price.
Digital healthcare weekly news – Robots help in 15% of surgeries [video]
As someone who has purchased and owned multiple luxury European vehicles (mainly BMW and Mercedes) for the past 20+ years, for the first time I'm seriously considering switching over to Teslas when I replace my current vehicles.

From my perspective, Tesla has now gained long-term credibility, so we may well be on the cusp of seeing much broader adoption by a mass of non-early adopters, i.e., people like me, who evaluate buying a Tesla the same way we would evaluate buying any other car brand. We judge the purchase on "boring" criteria like long-term quality, everyday reliability, real-world practicality, service delivery, overall reputation, interior features, exterior design, resale value, etc.

The stock market appears to be pricing this kind of broader-mass-adoption scenario.
Upvoted, and I don't disagree with your premise - we'll see how this plays out over the long term.
Same thing, no?
Keyword "Catalina". It works just fine on non-Catalina MacOS.
When will it finally crash? Housing prices has reached a level of nonsense again.

Back in 2007, there was a report of some guy spending an astronomical $800,000 USD for a house somewhere outside of Silicon Valley, like in Tracy, I think. This was bonkers back then.

But now, nobody bats an eye anymore, and thinks it’s perfectly normal to spend that much on a house in previously economically depressed areas.

QE has impoverished us all (except for the fat bankers).

What is the black swan event that will finally trigger the stock market melt down? The price of SPY has gone exponential. A look at it, and it appears to defy gravity. But yet, everyone is celebrating on the streets it seems, as if the good times will finally last forever.
Expert notes 'sharp deceleration' in San Francisco Bay Area rent prices
Overview of what Jump Capital is doing in crypto
What is crazy is to want to own a internal combustion engine car factory in the future. What happens when electric cars cost less to own and operate than a gas car? How is GM going to retool fast enough to keep up?
Looking at how the report gets created https://www.numbeo.com/crime/indices_explained.jsp "is based on surveys from visitors of this website". No indication how many people took part.
BBC show based of the book is also worth watching: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0905688/
Meanwhile, these same PFAS chemicals are sprayed liberally onto the surface of clothing that we all wear, and increasingly furniture as well, and this may account for far more human PFAS consumption than drinking water.

PFAS chemicals are widely used for waterproofing fabrics. The industry term is DWR -- Durable Water Repellent. The chemicals are sprayed onto the surface and simply left there to rub off on your hands and face every time you touch them. The chemicals are ubiquitous; nearly every garment marketed as "water resistant" will be covered with them. As of 2019, only one large outdoor clothing company has abandoned PFC-based DWR finishes. I've also noticed more and more furniture advertised with DWR recently.

All of this concern over parts-per-trillion levels in drinking water is like panicking over an untended candle when your house is already on fire.

EDIT:

Also note that the U.S. military regularly dumps tremendous quantities of PFAS chemicals on the ground around dozens of military bases around the country [1]. They use it in fire suppression foam, of which they spray thousands of gallons during regular fire fighting exercises.

There are low-cost and low-toxicity alternatives to PFAS that are fairly well proven to be just as effective in fire suppression foams, but the U.S. military continues to ignore them steadfastly.

1 - https://theintercept.com/2018/02/10/firefighting-foam-afff-p...

EDIT 2:

Don't forget carpeting! For decades, rugs and carpeting advertised as "stain repellent" have been coated with PFCs. One prominent brand is 3M's Scotchgard, which is also sold as a liquid for people to spray on all their shit. Until 2003, liquid Scotchgard contained PFOS, a C8-class PFC that is now banned. Even today, Scotchgard and other similar products still contain PFCs -- merely shorter-chain versions that have been surmised (but not proven) to be safer.
> ‘Due to the presence of the dissolved zone, one diamond began to move freely inside another on the principle of nesting dolls.’
Bravo, only in Russia!
How do you know, did you pay the $79 to gain access and inspect the download?
Front (YC S14) raises $59M round led by other tech CEOs
Well, no, actually, people aren't voting for this.

Many people aren't voting at all, because they're excluded based on felony convictions, inability to meet paperwork requirements for voter IDs, etc.

Gerrymandering is extremely effective. The electoral college isn't intentional gerrymandering, but it has the same effect as gerrymandering: two of the last three presidents lost the popular vote. And where it's intentional, it's even more effective. In North Carolina, Republicans won 77% of congressional seats with just over 50% of the popular vote in 2018. In Ohio, Republicans won 75% of congressional seats with 52% of the popular vote in 2018.

In most areas, single vote per election systems prevent third parties from being viable. There's some evidence this encourages extremism as well: moderates aren't able to sufficiently differentiate themselves, causing vote splitting.

And after all that, if they're still not able to win unfairly, electioneers can just go into the electronic voting machine and change the votes.

And even if you manage to get the person the majority wanted to be in office into office, there's no guarantee that they'll do what they said they'd do that caused people to vote for them. I know lots of people (myself included) who view being forced to buy health insurance or pay a fine as a major betrayal by Obama.
I either question or don't understand this.

> Code Churn is the percentage of the code workflow of an engineer. It normally means the frequency of lines added and deleted in every commit. Measuring the churn, managers are able to control the software development process, fundamentally indicating the quality of the process of each engineer. The spikes normally represent that something is not going as normal as it should be.

The whole article doesn't really feel that agile? I dunno
There are a lot of articles talking about this. Here's one I grabbed:

https://www.citylab.com/life/2012/04/why-bigger-cities-are-g...

I think in the statistic you cite, 'city' includes both the urban part and the sprawling suburbs. You'd also want to compare apples to apples: someone living a very green life in a "western" city is still likely to live a more carbon-intensive life than someone doing subsistence farming.
I'm pretty sure gas station networks weren't built with public money. And other companies are investing in charger networks: https://ionity.eu/ or https://www.electrifyamerica.com/index

At least in the EU I'm 99% sure that the EU will mandate (if it hasn't already) a standard charging interface. Don't know about the US, it's a bit like the Wild West in this regard...
It's very dangerous, but it used to be considered extremely dangerous to update anything in production until the likes of Google started doing it nearly two decades ago. The secret sauce is to use DevOps: automated testing and so on. But it's a culture the auto industry does not have. They can't do it for the same reason most banks for example can't do it (yet), and it's taking them years to get there.
Oregon ended up having State Senators flee across State lines. Even one going so far as to warn law enforcement to send unmarried men without families to try to forcibly collect them.

https://kval.com/news/local/oregon-senator-on-governor-sendi...

When there is as much on the line as there is in America's legislative system, you will be surprised the shenanigans that ensue.

The business of the Congress at one point had to ban the practice of dueling. Not necessarily because it wasn't seen as a way to settle a dispute, but that it happened so often. Kentucky I think is the state that specifically disqualifies legislators based on participation in duels.

https://www.sos.ky.gov/admin/land/resources/articles/Documen...

Robert's Rules of Order are often looked upon those with a darker sense of humor in the same light as the Third-man out rule in hockey. Ruins all the good fights.

Though Asia has been known for some doozies. I recall the use of either a chainsaw or fire axe at one point.

Ah! Taiwan was it.

http://loweringthebar.net/2017/07/brawling-again-in-taiwan.h...

South Koreans seem to prefer the legislative Sledgehammer.

https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-korea-fight28-2009jan28-...
Hi

The first time I had this course, the kids were between 8 and 10. The differences in cognitive behaviour were minimal. Just some of them were a little bit slower than the others, but at the end they helped each other and everyone was finished at time. I see, 4/5yrs would be much trickier.

For our next course it will be a little bit more "diverse". The oldest application is 14, and some of the former kids are coming again. So it will be the whole spectrum 8-14.
I will see in the first lessons how I can separate them or offer different materials.

This time I'll offer some intro to Python. Maybe, one or the other will then grab this path.

I admit preparation of the materials was quit time consuming... more as I thought in the beginning it would be. But for the second course, I have already a bunch of prepared stuff.
They're assuming that because justin.tv exists and is popular, and that e-learning is now common in a number of fields, that this will apply to music as well.

Not so in my experience. I quickly learned that I can't follow along with my virtual guitar tutor if I broke the strings while attempting to tune it and have no idea how to re-string it.
>- ok the err != nil still drives me nuts. But it drives me to write things in a way where I don't need to deal with errors as much. Reduces fractal complexity and paths through the code. It also forces "the buck stops here" sort of pattern where you have some atrium which is resiliant and is where most errors bubble up to

This was actually a huge flaw in the design of go. The way forward for this type of thing was sum types but go failed to implement this modern programming concept hence why your stuck with it. See how rust handles errors... that is the proper way.