skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Yes, their commitment to MeeGo being the center piece of their strategy is where I fall off being on the same page as these folks.

Phones need strong app ecosystems and familiar apps that everyone expects, but developers can only realistically support so many discrete platforms.

Nokia is great at making hardware, they should be confident that is what will stop them being a commodity OEM should they support a first-class citizen operating system (which is iOS or Android - so assuming no deal to support iOS means for me they have to do Android)
Just because someone else wants to use their vote to indicate "the comment has merit" doesn't mean I can't use mine to say "I disagree". I wasn't being sarcastic, nor trying to be witty. I'm saying the vote buttons are on my screen, they are mine, I'll cast them how I like.
I think there are a few extra layers to this problem that aren't frequently brought up.
1) people believe they need cell/data service and would never cancel their service regardless of how bad/slow the service is. How many San Franciscan's or New Yorkers canceled their iphone service? The answer: Not enough. Will we as a country continue to pay $30/mnth for slow speeds and spotty coverage. Hell yes we will.

2) I don't think most people would notice faster network speeds if they came. They would notice better coverage, but would most of us be able to tell 50mps compared to 5mps? I have a feeling the speed my phone loads websites right now is limited by the cpu, not the network. And with 5gb caps (if we're lucky), we can't use our networks for anything more intensive like video streaming. What would be the point of a superfast network if it takes 20 minutes of downloading to use up my monthly alotment?
For sure it will have strong implications in the short term. But in the long term it will depend on board of directors, shareholder, new CEO, new vision etc. Look at IBM, is 100 years in business, Apple could stay in business for many years to come, with or without Steve, the hard thing is to find a remarkable CEO that can drive the company to a clear path.

"Founders leaving" has been always an hard question/answer to say in the short term.
I agree pretty much. I rarely downvote anything, it's a bit unfriendly. But there are times when I strongly disagree but don't want to start a 'someone on the Internet is wrong ' thread.
If these sites are as bad as you claim, hacker news users will easily be able to spot them and nuke them from their results... I have a sneaking suspicion that those of you passing around lists of sites have ulterior motives.
And we make fun of our parents for thinking that Google = internet. ;)
To be fair, there isn't a scintilla of evidence that they're involved with that. Some black hat is just using them as feedstock for content spinning. Happens to Wiki and my blog all the time.
So you think you could build your own Groupon?
I see the same now, but there was originally a slideshow and site tour.

Here is a summary:

1. You start a story and invite a few friends

2. Your friends take turns writing small sections of the story, in a predetermined order.

3. Other users can view your story, add comments, and vote for the best stories.

4. The best stories are published with an Amazon service.
Comparative advantage does not work in marriages. All hands on is much better. It is the same with family cookouts, spring cleaning, etc. More hands, less work, and there is less cognitive load whether work is being doled out fairly.
Ah, sounds cool. I'd like to try it..
Air Force One is also based on a 747.
Shouldn't this be "Ask HN", not "Tell HN"? I was turned off by the blunt statement of "how to behave". I agree that this is worth considering, but I disagree that presenting your opinion as instructions is an effective way to start the conversation.

Disclaimer: I am not using any voting techniques, up or down, on this post or any comments therein.
A problem is that many people view comments which they strongly disagree with as unconstructive, offensive and antagonizing.

For example, if I say "crowdsourcing is a superior way for startups to get design work done because it's cheaper and gives you more choices" you can be sure the design community would see this as unconstructive, offensive and antagonizing because there is so much pathos surrounding crowdsourcing.
In [this particular part of?] the UK; personhood of IP addresses may vary by jurisdiction (hm, do each of my 2^64 IPv6 addresses get to vote?).
Use it however you want. However, don't post a comment if you aren't willing to explain why you disagree with a well thought-out post.
Haven't done it yet, but word is that there's a special ending...
+1 Mark Volkmann's tutorial. That's what got me started on learning Clojure. Of course, once I'd gone through that, I still waded through this book and got a lot of value from it:

http://pragprog.com/titles/shcloj/programming-clojure (which was current at the time that I read it but might be a bit out of date by now since I think it covers Clojure 1.1)
Wow I'm sorry that happened. I guess the traffic is killing our sever now (shared hosting). I just re-uploaded the the index file and that seemed to give it the kick it needed. AIM me at thesiedlecki if you run into anymore errors I can fix for anyone!
I agree.

Indeed, as some have pointed out, the guidelines say otherwise. However, the guidelines were mostly laid out when pg started this, uh, site. Social sites do not always behave exactly the way their creators intended. If the bulk of people want to do it another way, that's the way it will be done (unless pg decides to force a different way), and I see no problem if it is spelled out.
The worst case is downvoting a new comment to zero in order to hide it because you disagree. This is a fragile medium for multi-faceted discourse and that kind of thing is just vandalism.

What's so wrong with the idea of upvoting a post that you intend to rebut if it neatly articulates a reasonable position?
I did re-check the guidelines before posting, but wasn't aware of PG's comments. Thanks.

My preference (and that's really all this is, my preference), as has since been suggested, is that unless the comment is clearly unconstructive/offensensive/antagonizing, people leave a reply along with a downvote (or upvote an existing reply they more strongly agree with).
Before going into the Downvote thing, why do you upvote? It varies from person to person, but.. lets make some assumptions.

Someone may upvote someone's post because..

1. It adds something to the discussion... or

2. It's funny.. or

3. They agree about it.. or

4. they just want to troll... or

5. they like that person.. or

6. all of above.

And with that I you can pretty much say that you would downvote doing the exact opposite.

Someone may downvote someone's post because..

1. It doesn't add something to the discussion... or

2. It isn't funny.. or

3. they disagree about it.. or

4. they find you're trolling... or

5. they dislike that person.. or

6. all of above.

So yeah, in the mind Disagree = Downvote
Sometimes provoking a better comment makes a distressing comment useful; therefore upvoteable. Like I upvoted that distressing comment up there.
Boing clearly sees their future growth market (for this plane at least) as being the Asian countries

I just talked to the CEO/President of Boeing the other night and you're absolutely right, that's exactly what their focus is. Not necessarily focused on Asia alone, but most of their sales are international now, particularly to the emerging markets -- and he had no qualms in saying the future of Boeing was outside the United States.

A private business jet version of the 747-8 -- the world's longest passenger jet? I wonder what that looks like inside and who buys them?

Saudi Princes and other royalty from the Middle East. Often times when they land at Boeing field in Seattle they show off and let people come on-board for tours.
800 uniques so far, about 50 downloads. I'll post updated counts in a bit for everyone's amusement.
Not to promote my employer (I'm a lame duck there anyway), but we just ran a related and useful article about valuing companies. It explains why market cap is... odd and gives some other metrics that may be more relevant: http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2011/02/does-this-metric...
I always do; I endorse that. Its hypocritical to reply if you don't think the comment is important.
kinky.
Why does the app need permission to access Facebook chat?
Most of those people are idiots. Even if you don't take into account everything listed in that post, considering you need enough people to tip a deal for it to work is hard enough. In the early stages of building a Groupon clone, the toughest challenge is getting enough people on board day 1 to tip a deal. If you don't get enough people and the deal doesn't tip, you already suck. Most people who aren't in the marketing world don't realize how difficult this is and I'm sure this is at the top of the list for many of the 2000+ Groupon clones as to why they fail. The ones that succeed are those lucky enough to get enough users early on to tip onto the next stage. But even then there are more challenges than merely how "simple" an idea Groupon is. And Groupon isn't the only exception. Every startup has a list of challenges people on the outside can only begin to imagine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
I don't think this reflect badly on the users doing the downvoting. This reflects a missing ingredient in the user interface. Up/down votes are too simplistic for the discussion based forums like HN. There ought to be 3 options in reacting to comments:

1) "That was an insightful comment, and I agree with you"
2) "That was a reasonable comment, but I disagree with you" and
3) "You're an idiot"
Hm, my average is lower than that. But I hope its not because of 'snarky one-liners'. Its often because my comments are on unpopular threads.
young chaps calling for a revolution. Not even listing credentials. This is not going any where.
Show HN: My first coding project ever (unnamed)
HN, I would appreciate some feedback on my first coding project ever. It's a visual instant search for iTunes (using Apple's API) I consider it MVP at this point, some features are still missing. I've tested the site in Safari, IE, and Firefox, and it seems to work in all of them.

http://38069.vs.webtropia.com/tester/test/ (not too fancy of a URL)

My background is nowhere near coding or designing (English major in the making, quite sure my code shows) and I only knew some basic PHP going into this last week, so don't be too harsh.

Why this idea? I strongly believe visual search will be something to look at in the future.

Thanks for your feedback!
The author says exactly that, near the end of the article. He names those languages in particular.
No worries. Just signed in with my facebook account, and just as a heads up, the pre-filled email address didn't have a "@" symbol, it had the unicode: \u0040
I don't think it's open-source projects specifically, but anyone that threatens there "innovations" in user experience - open-source and commercial alike. Saying it's an attack against open-source developers doesn't fit considering how much they backed open projects which are heavily utilized by the competition such as WebKit and LLVM.
Once the foam is removed, how did you access the driver assembly? Is the screwdriver used as a prying tool?
معنى اسم روان
معنى اسم روان
1. Continue what I'm doing

2. ??????

3. Profit?

Bubble or no bubble. Doesn't change a thing. I'm going to keep focusing on what I do best.
4 Years of Factor e Farm
It's still impressive that the airframe held up.
One problem with the "downvote only offensive/unconstructive/troll-type posts" theory of down-voting becomes apparent when you have a highly upvoted but factually incorrect post, with a factually correct counterpoint that hasn't received any attention in response.

I think it makes sense to both upvote the (correct) response and downvote the overly-upvoted mistaken post; this brings the point-balance of the conversation back in line with reality, rather than letting incorrect posts which might attract a lot of upvotes because they pander to a particular sentiment, or repeat a common myth, dominate the conversation.
I was looking for the bio's myself - It would make a big difference, especially for people who do not know the whole Nokia story.
Try and solve a problem.
Legacy feature from the idea days. I'll remove that now. Thanks for the reminder!
Microsoft accuses former exec of theft
Remember the old adage about Microsoft: "It take them 3 god to get something right"? (1) Windows Mobile, (2) Kin, (3) WinMo7

Have you used WinMo7? It's really nice (and this from an Android fan).

I'm not sure it will save Nokia, but read a few reviews of WinMo7 ans go and have a play before you dismiss it entirely.

(Edit: WinMo7's biggest problem is it's name. "Windows" is a huge liability because everyone associates it with desktop windows even though it shares no common code at all)
Do you think that choosing a non-mainstream language is really the result of some sort of counter-culture vibe? Some desire to be different?

I ask this because I am a fan of Python and Clojure. I got into both as a result of reading pg's essays on Python and Lisp many years ago. Both languages were sold to me not as an act of rebellion but as more-powerful, higher-level languages that could get the job done more quickly. I quickly found this to be the case, compared to Java which I was used to. Nowadays, I grimace when I have to use Java or C and find myself missing a language feature from Python or Clojure that could have saved me an awful lot of typing and repeating myself.

So, in my experience, was the choice of esoteric languages born of a desire to be different? No. Does it make me out as being an amazing programmer? Sadly no, not necessarily. I'd like to think, though, that it at least shows that I was enthusiastic enough to learn and use languages that I get a lot of benefit from.
As I remember someone else pointing out, downvoting when disagreeing greatly jeopardizes HN's quality. As you pointed out, people should be encouraged to upvote opinions of high quality and downvote opinions of low quality. If people choose to go against this and up/downvote due to how their views compare with the commenter's views, HN will quickly be filled with posts that go with the majority opinion. Not only will these posts get the most exposure, people will stop posting their views when they are in the minority. Obviously you can see the damage that this would create.
A simpler and faster alternative to wireframes
Probably need more context to give a better answer. Seems like you are asking from a user's point of view. I'll almost always use disqus if it's available to leave a comment, generally because it's simpler.

Not having disqus doesn't change my willingness to contribute, providing I can do so simply..like entering my name and email. If I have to register/confirm/activate forget about it unless it's a site I'm particularly invested in (say, HN).

From the development point of view, unless you have specific needs which disqus doesn't meet, I don't see why anyone wouldn't use them. They've turned the "writing a blog in language XYZ" tutorials into 5 minute exercises. On the top end, they are used by an ever growing and impressive list of people. Finally, since you can export all comments at any times, I really don't see what you lose.
I like this a lot.

However, I question whether or not making it realtime is the right way to go. I could be wrong, but it seems that stories like these would work best on a more laid-back timeline. I was about to start writing a story, and then I saw there was a "duration".

I set it to "no limit", and noticed that I can't write anything without someone else. Why? It's valentine's day, and most of the other folks I know who'd be interested are all busy. So I'm stuck unable to use your site. I should be able to do SOMETHING by myself.

I love the idea, though.
Cloning Groupon is the easy part, the hard part is executing.
Part of HN's success is contributed to the simplicity of the interface. A two-choice voting system doesn't necessarily acurately display the user's intentions, but it promotes the most amount of involvement from them. If you were to go with a more complicated voting system, I would suggest going with what is outlined over in this thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=613071
It's a great idea, but they need a new landing page. Rage faces are okay for Reddit, but using Y U NO guy is borderline racist.
If you want to write something alone, why not notepad, or google docs, or microsoft word? The idea is that it wouldn't be a level playing field if you could compete on the rankings page with something you had more direct control over.

As for duration... I can't really see it being used over a long span of time. Even the 2 minute duration is too long if it's more than 2 or 3 authors in there. 1 minute really gets the creative juices flowing and instantly makes it immersive as you always can't wait for the next line--and you don't have to!
stupid question, but how do you even downvote? all i see if a triangle pointing upwards next to the points tally.

i agree, being down voted for an opinion is rather ridiculous. if you don't agree, state it, don't manipulate with a proverbial lever.
I have no problem with broadcast TV, although ubiquitous fast internet service could make that unnecessary. What I have a problem with is the use of really good spectrum space for analog signals inefficiently. TV now is a lot better than it used to be, but radio still uses up a huge band of frequencies, and it could use a lot less if we switched to digital.
Hey, neat! My biggest frustration is with your use of autocomplete. It will NOT LET me search for anything that the autocomplete doesn't recognize. Try searching for "feet of steel" --- there is no way to see what (probably bizarre) results that search would return, because it's unavoidably corrected to "Stevie Wonder" (who is interesting, but not very much like the phrase "feet of steel").

For a first go, it's fantastic. Keep it up.

EDIT:

Ah, now I see that I must not press enter, and then I can see the desired results. That's pretty counter-intuitive. It also shows that there _are_ results for "feet of steel", and they make more sense than "Stevie Wonder". I'd let the user choose to accept the autocomplete, rather than forcing it upon them.
upvotes are truthy, downvotes are falsy.
There are three options - upvote, downvote, or do nothing.

If someone says something interesting/insightful/useful, upvote. If someone says something totally inane, downvote. If someone says something which seems reasonable, but with which you don't agree, either upvote or just don't vote.
Tổng hợp bí quyết tiếp thị quảng cáo trực tuyến - Tiếp thị quảng cáo là sáng tạo
This is interesting. Way to mix it up Jeopardy
Need some inspiration for your blog/article titles?
Many businesses start out just like you describe. If you did all of your work off the clock and you're not using any intellectual data or proprietary processes you should be in the clear. Keep any concept designs or specifications just in case.
I have friends who started their business on the side, left their employer, and then the employers became their customers.
NO not yet, thanks for the tip!
I wish they would have mapped the images to a 3D rendition of the chapel. It's not overly complex that it couldn't be done.
It would fix the distortion issues present when you're not staring at the artwork at 100% zoom.
I've been through that intersection! Let me tell you, coming off the highway expecting a normal intersection and getting dumped into that is pretty crazy. Not sure why they chose that design... Crazy MDOT.
Google has worked tightly with all major Android phone manufacturers to release at least one important product. They've also helped other manufacturers do the same, like some in India. I'm sure they would've helped Nokia to get off the ground as well and get their sh*t together. It's in Google's best interest that every manufacturer impresses with their Android phones, don't you think?

The guy above is right. If Android is the next Windows 95, which brings all manufacturers under it (I believe it is), then no matter whether Nokia likes it or not, choosing another OS would kill it, once it fails.

By the time Nokia helps WP7 capture 10% of the smartphone market, let's say by end of 2012, Android will reach 50-60%. There's no way WP7 can fight that back once Android reaches there.
Well, because then I wouldn't be using your product. The fact that this is BUILT for writing stories means I'd be more likely to try it for that reason. I'm on the west coast, and my friends are all on the east coast (who'd be interested), but I KNOW they would love to collaborate on something short and funny. It just wouldn't be realtime.

Sure, we could use google docs collaboration, but that isn't as fun. I'd rather click a button and have an email sent to my friends that says "Dave wants your help writing a story!" or something.

The fact that it's ranked seems...excessive. You could be on the right track, I admittedly know nothing about this space. Maybe I'm not the target user. But I suck at writing, and I wouldn't use this to compete. I'd use it because it would be fun.
Being Coachable
When I visited Boeing in Seattle a few years back they were working on a 747-400 without livery. They said it's for a private customer from the middle east. Apparently this is not uncommon.
I was JUST thinking about this yesterday. I wrote a messy blog post about it, but the gist is that having conversations online isn't messy enough for real humans yet. Upvoting and downvoting being used as a "i agree" and "i disagree" is inevitable.

http://www.davezor.net/2011/02/online-conversations/
agreed. for now, autocomplete only supports artists. or well, is supposed to support artists. no songs, no movies, no shows. that's something i need to fix later.

thanks for the feedback!

answer to your edit: the ajax is supposed to grab the first suggestion and start searching for it while you type. this is a bit buggy though.
Paul Rand designed the famous NeXT logo for Steve Jobs — do you think Steve made one change to it? No. http://www.paul-rand.com
It's my vote. I'll use it to mean what I want.

Talking about how people should act is not necessarily a prelude to forcing them to act that way.
There is a high potential for the first VCs/Angels who search opportunities outside SV and USA, main cities of Europe, Israel, etc.

I find it the most obvious http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitrage situation.
CareCloud Startup ushers in a New era of Cloud Computing Healthcare
What type of problem? How would you define that?
I would've guessed that you were going for 'buckup' with a latin v (pronounced u). Akin to SVPPLY.
Just asked the same question here, basically: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2218427
I agree with all points, except one, spend half resources in meego and the other half in android, just to be sure.
My point is that in Python land it is silly to call u"" strings, "Unicode" strings. Unicode strings are strings in UTF-8/16/32 and a bunch of lesser-used encodings. For that matter "" could be used as a Unicode string as long as it's only ASCII. What the docs should be talking about is ASCII vs UTF-16, not ASCII/Latin-1 vs Unicode. This starts making a difference when questions like "How much memory is consumed by this string?" or "What characters can I not store in Python?" are asked. In this light, Python 3 makes a big improvement: it has immutable byte arrays and it has encoded strings.
I don't think anyone disagrees on that point. But I see a lot of comments across the web (and here on HN) that people agree Nokia's strength is hardware, not software. If they don't have strength in software, can they really execute innovation, differentiation, and shareholder value at the software level? Elop's clearly shown where he stands on that thought with his burning platform memo. And I think the majority of people (from what I've seen from anecdotal evidence) agree with Elop.