skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Yeah, there's definitely a difference in scale and possible harm done. Unlike some minor cruft in other parts of science, they don't seem to attract much kookery either, so "fringe PLs" versus "fringe physics" is at worst clutter, not full of actively misleading nonsense.

I'd have to try to look at archives to be sure, but I think fringe-physics is actually one of the reasons some of the science-related policies are written as they are. The answer to, "how do we keep this crap off Wikipedia?" was to have some sort of policy about the existence of peer-reviewed sources. (The peer-reviewed part is necessary, because a lot of fringe physics has papers up on arXiv.)
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If Wikipedia just accumulated everything it could, we'd end up with a billion articles 90% of which are vandalized, outdated, mistaken crap. The potential to misinform would be huge. They can only successfully scale the corpus at the rate at which they gain volunteer editors (who are far rarer than people who just write one article about their favorite obscure thing, and then leave).
I don't want to talk about other people's research (that hasn't yet been formally presented to the community) but believe me people are working on it.

And your donations have made that research possible.
This is really cool. I really like his take on lambda being ^.
How I committed to a business idea
Step 1) Add some shortcuts to JavaScript

Step 2) Make it marginally more expressive

Step 3) ???

Step 4) Profit
start market validation exercise early on
Notability requirements for an article to exist at all is the wrong approach.

Instead, wikipedia should allow most any article to be added, but have one or more groups that "certify" articles as notable. People who want to avoid all the non-notable clutter can then elect a view of wikipedia that only includes articles certified by the group (or groups) they choose, while non-notable articles can still be viewed by those who choose to view them, and can have the breathing room to in some cases evolve into notable articles.
Move is a subset of JavaScript [...] The following three examples are all valid Move code while the last one is also valid JavaScript code

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Well, they would have to be very notable things that do not exist. (My next line wants very much to be a joke about God but I'll just leave that up to your individual imaginations.)
you don't really need an academic background to get started with it. A simple route would be:
1. get familiar with an 8-bit microcontroller( Arduino is in vogue, the only problem is it abstracts the parts you are trying to learn so you'll have to dig deeper into it)

2. learn about a simple layouts(what components you'll need to get a microcontroller running on a breadboard).

3. read datasheets for parts--they'll tell you most of what you need to know.

4. learn about pcb design(fairly simple)

There is a great wealth of knowledge that has sprung up recently in the open hardware community. I would point you to adafruit.com and sparkfun.com for beginner tutorials. From there it'll get you to 70% of a design for a hypothetical commercial product. The other 30%--quality testing, industrial/mechanical design, part sourcing you'll have to glean on your own.
"The harshness of the lesson was proportional to the amount of rage such behavior induce."

Let's consider the logic of that statement by taking a different example. A young child is in a shop and is told by its parent it cannot have some candy. Young child "I want candy! I want candy!". The child becomes enraged, more and more enraged, by the behavior of the parent. Should the child now teach the parent a harsh lesson? Since the parent's behavior has induced a great deal of rage a very harsh lesson seems entirely appropriate.
It's lifted from C Blocks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocks_(C_language_extension)
A "nerd purge". At Wikipedia. You just broke my brain.

What are you talking about?
This seems foolish from a purely financial standpoint. Often times interest rates are tiered and you can get significantly higher rates with the more money you have in a single account.

They should combine them. They could keep pretending they have separate accounts and just write checks for what they owe, just have it come out of a single savings account.
From wikipedia's definition of idiot: "someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way"

I would submit that the aforementioned PhD student qualifies, whatever his I.Q. or programming chops.
Now the question is, does it meet HN's notability requirements?
Sure, pick that one mistake of mine..

I remember that, and I wanted to directly express the low-quality of that particular post, which of course must have been of value for some people but me, nevertheless.

For my defence, I immediately regretted that comment, however I'm not deleting none of them.

Regarding the skewed view, it's not solely based on this forum and this account only ;].
My Startup: Become the King Conquer the Venues. It's mysterious?
Hi,
this is the Launching soon page of our next startup http://challengein.com .
I just want to ask you if it's mysterious.
And what do think the product is?
I'd never even heard the term "deletionist" before this morning, but the tone of the comments from the administrator on the comments for the dream hampton page reminded me of some petty minor bureaucrat.

My reading of the relevant Wikiepedia rules/policies suggests to me that there is a fair amount of leeway in these decisions and I would have thought that a reasonable approach would be to err on the side of inclusion, not on the side of deletion.
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Scoble missed a bunch of steps. According to my recollection (FaceBook member since Sept 2004), it was:

Phase 1: Harvard only.

Phase 2: Ivy-league only.

Phase 3: Top schools only

Phase 4: Top schools and their alums only.

Phase 5: All colleges

Phase 6: All colleges + high schools

Phase 7: Everyone

Phase 8: Everyone + app makers

Phase 9 (not sure on the timing of this, I forget if "I Support X" pages came out before or after the platform): Everyone + app makers + political causes

Phase 10: Everyone + political causes - app makers except Zynga.

Phase 11: Everyone + political causes + businesses + Zynga

Phase 12?: Everyone + everything?
That's just... wrong. Come on, Zed, at least do your homework. Chris isn't deleting the pages, nor is he acting as some sort of sole determinant of noteworthiness. He's simply proposing them for deletion through the Articles for Deletion process. Also, Wikipedia handles sub-pages just fine. Most active editors have a number of sub-pages on their userpage, and many articles have sub-pages as well where people will store drafts while working on a revision. Your information is wrong, and your tone is insulting. Cut it out, man.
I think I might add some different perspective to that. I was (and to a degree still am) one of those guys who went home from the lab to spend some more time on programming for fun.

Besides the obvious non-IT-related downsides (made me obviously less social), it also has some IT-related downsides. Even on the purely technical career path (programmer->senior programmer->tech leader->architect->???) the more you advance the more you need the skills and knowledge outside the IT field, even if it's only to keep a lunch conversation with those weird non-technical people who decide about IT spending :)

My point is that even if you consider this only in the context of your career in IT, spending your time outside programming might be quite a good investment.
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Tell you what Zed. You go and turn that destruction up to eleven.

I will give you $1000 of my own money if you come out with a Wikipedia clone or fork that works better than the current version, particularly with regards to the issues you have difficulty with. Or even a prototype!

I don't have this kind of money to throw around, mostly because I work for Wikimedia. ;) But I'm pretty confident I won't have to pay it out. You aren't going to do shit one way or another. You talk big about how you could do it better. But I see you backing off when I am begging you to actually do something about it.

Only caveat, it's gotta be 100% open source (GPL compatible license) so I can copy its features back into Wikipedia if they seem to be working, or are generally good ideas. If you like we can find a mutually respected person to arbitrate on whether your version is better or not.
It doesn't seem like that to me. Organization creates sense out of chaos. Deleting useful information just destroys things. Categorizing and organizing knowledge are hard and important problems, but going Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is not a good answer to those problems.

Personally, I really think Wikipedia has developed a culture of fetishism around the guidelines that violates their spirit (e.g. ignore all rules) where the wikilawyers chase away the real contributors — and I don't like the "take it to Wikia" suggestion because it just creates a financial incentive for Wikimedia to ignore the problem.
Information on these type of languages is exactly what I expect to find in an encyclopaedia.
Here are some statistics about this September 2009: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/top-u-s-we...
If something is vandalized or mistaken then delete it, if it is outdated then there should be some kind of long term archiving policy but I fail to understand the reasoning behind deleting articles which are factually correct, even if rather obscure. What harm do they do?
The product is "The mobile Animator for groups of friends" ;)
Yes :) but What do you think this means?
Clickable: http://challengein.com

Based solely on the tagline, it sounds like foursquare. The graphics remind me of board games though, leaving me questioning my previous conclusion and thus mystified.
This is usual argument, but it's purely academic in nature. Yes, by law, the government can continue to print money indefinitely. But guess what? At some point people will stop buying that debt. So even though the government has a mandate to continue printing paper and by definition can't go "bankrupt", that's effectively meaningless when people no longer accept your currency.
I think it is more accurately described as a superset of javascript, Just as C++ is(nt) a superset of C.
I was sceptical about this, but it works.

I also noticed recently that, in a somewhat shell-like way, you can press the up arrow to edit your previous message at will (but perhaps this is common knowledge).
They don’t want to keep the amount of articles as small as possible, they want just the right type and amount of articles so that they can maintain them. Wikipedia depends on volunteers and I don’t think Wikimedia can afford to pay people to maintain articles [1].

If you want an article about every Pokémon and not just Pikachu you should start your own Pokémon wiki. That’s Wikipedia’s official party line. Well, at least the party line of the Deletionists (who seem to be winning).

This is a very controversial topic, the battle between Deletionists [1] and Inclusionists [2] has been raging for a long time on Wikipedia. Technical reasons really play no role in this battle.

[1] Wikimedia 2010-11 budget plan (PDF): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/d/dd/2010-1...

[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deletionism

[3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inclusionism
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OkCupid's team often publish interesting studies, based on the tests they provide to their users. The last I read, "The best questions for a first date", finds some funny correlations. E.g. between the probability of having sex on a first date, and liking the taste of beer! It's simple statistics, but the charts are provided as a proof.

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-best-questions-for-fir...
It's hard for Wikipedia to say that other publishers are not legitimate because they're online, when Wikipedia itself had to fight for legitimacy because of it's online nature. Doing that means they're just tools of the giant corporate publishers and not even close to their original purpose. Instead, they would need to recognize Lulu (like Amazon and the Library of Congress do) and accept books from there or be shown as complete hypocrites.

Another thing to note: People say that Lulu doesn't have an editorial process but they do. Once you publish a book they review it and if it meets their standards they put it into Amazon and other sellers for you. Considering that editorial standards at all publishing houses is damn near zero except for copy-editing and slapping a cover on, I think it's fair to say Lulu is just fine as a source.
Qualcomm enables instant streaming of Netflix on Android phones
I am college educated and worked 35 years in management…I've failed to get a job even at McDonalds.

I'm guessing he didn't attempt to get a job working the register or as a cook.
I'd gladly pay the loss of interest rate for the added convenience of not having an excel spreadsheet which needs to be updated at every purchase.
Some of us do check for replies even to rather old comments, too, so it's not necessarily hopeless to contact someone via a stale thread.

But your point is well taken and I already have an email in there.
And lots of devices support MMS, that doesn't mean anybody uses it.
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High Yield Investment Program, also known as HYIP, is a type of investment program that yields high interest rates.where accepts investments that are as small as $10 and claims that they can provide high interest rates.
Clearly a currently "viral" (oh how I hate that over-use, much abused term) concept/idea:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2213898
Notable != noticed.

i.e.

Worthy of attention != getting attention.

Ruby was notable, just not noticed.
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These guys are working hard on a very important mission: reducing information overload implied by feeds (including social and RSS feeds). I think it's a clever idea to integrate their filtering algorithm directly on twitter's website, using a browser extension!
I don't care what the bureaucratic process is, all I know is one guy went on a rampage electing pages for deletion and they're gone. This "plausible deniability" of page deletion so nobody is to blame really is odd.
maybe he's referring to the sentiment here?

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2215731

(also, lotsa wikimedia ppl on HN then? ;) )
As jerf has pointed out, this is Impostor Syndrome. It is present in men as well. Ironically, the better programmer I've become, the stronger it has gotten. The thing is, while scary, it's perfectly normal. The only advise I can offer is just to ignore it. So what if it is true and you "don't belong" or you're a bad programmer: so what? It's still something that you enjoy and can make a career, a rare luxury for most in this world.

If you're worried about that the programming world implies less balance, consider this: the big advantage of programming is that you can get a job that coincides with your passion. That means, meetings and other bs aside, a significant chunk of your work is what you'd consider leisure time devoted to one of your hobbies. It means you actually have more time to pursue non programming hobbies.

That said, you should consider programming a bit outside of work and class. It's very easy to lose focus of what is the general industry trend when you're focused on your specific job. It can be as short as an hour a few evenings a week and a few hours on the weekends. It doesn't need to be anything "cool", it should be something you get a kick out of building that you don't get a chance to do at work: it's perfectly fine to re-invent the wheel, learn a language that isn't used in industry, write a software to facilitate a non programming hobby e.g., I love classics of literature, so I once built a "beautifier" for Project Gutenberg works that would convert them to LaTeX and type set them.

The fact that you love programming should be enough of a reason to continue doing it. Especially if you're skilled in areas outside of programming, you won't have any issue staying employed. Since you have less ego and arrogance, you'll be able to learn more from others, opening fields that are often close to people who are convinced they can't be taught anything about programming in a university setting.

P.S.

If you really are an impostor, that's likely a much more rare and valuable skill than being a programmer!
Plan A only bothers whomever tries to maintain [[List of esoteric programming languages]] or wherever you pick as a battleground. I know it sounds to you like you can really "stick it to the man" and they will swoon over your brillant tactics and relent, but you will only bother people that actually care about esolangs in the first place and Monsanto certainly isn't going to be around. The best you can hope for is some people get blocked and pages protected.

Wikipedia's policies would consider it self-published. It does not matter that you would be writing about languages that you are not affiliated with. Again, you are not going to change Wikipedia's policies by pointing out that Wikipedia itself is self-published in their eyes.

I think you are vastly overestimating the number of people that have even heard, much less care about these esoteric languages.

I do not know why you ascribe these emotions to me, but they are not in the least accurate. I do not think my personal opinion on this set of articles is at all significant. I do not care about them, either way.

Frankly, what disturbs me is how you have very strong opinions about how Wikipedia does or should work with an incredibly superficial actual understanding. For example, why do you argue over how Wikipedia sees Lulu? Have you even read Wikipedia's policy on Reliable Sources or Verifiability? It is not as if Lulu itself or other things like it are new. It has been debated a number of times and at length. You have no knowledge of the issue and provide no insight.
That's the right path ;)

Do you think that the line at the top of the page, is strong enough? Do you will sign up to obtain the Free theme pack? Do you had written something different?

tnx
I'm guessing there aren't any substantial savings that would attract better rates in this case. He's been "deep in debt" and has a blog post about how he's spending a third of his income on his car.. (another post last year suggests it'll take "years" for him to pay off his debts)
This would be a huge differentiator between Android and other phones/tablets that have Netflix on them already. Regardless of this tech, I am just glad that Android will be getting Netflix soon.
I realize deleting one thing does not create a different thing.

I agree it was more of a tangential quote and not a direct counter, but I was trying to point out that some of this "deletionism" is probably due to a recognition that not everything is being covered equally, and it might be nice to prune the leaves from time to time to encourage growth in new directions. Or something like that. Also, I'm not trying to speak for anyone else but myself, everything I said was just my own musing about the topic. However, I do have a feeling that if the first 10 years of wikipedia was represented by your quote, the next 10 years might be represented by mine. The goal seems to be growing up and encouraging people, which seems like a good idea, considering all the rage generated by this topic. If it can't contain everything then what it does NOT contain is going to be a deliberate choice by the community, and this whole thread seems to be dominated by one side of the argument so I thought I'd throw in a tangent. Thanks for the thoughtful comments though, and I should probably have put more thought into my own comments, I was just commenting in the spur of the moment.
These guys are working hard on a very important mission: reducing information overload implied by feeds (including social and RSS feeds). I think it's a clever idea to integrate their filtering algorithm directly on twitter's website, using a browser extension!
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Wouldn't it be more informative if we had separate up & down vote stats here instead of the collapsing aggregate function?
They must be very trusting (or have typically financially literate wives). If I were to do this, it'd confirm the worst: I'd gone insane.. :-)
If I propose that somebody shoot someone I don't like, and that person gets killed immediately afterward, am I an innocent bystander? (Note to people who don't understand similes: I'm not saying deleting a Wikipedia page is similar in gravity to shooting someone. The similarity here is that you are responsible for your ideas.)

If you're trying to tell me the page would have been deleted even if Chris hadn't proposed it, I suppose I can't disprove that version of history, but I can say that it's pretty bizarre.

(Edited because joke was unclear.)
Having tried this mod out about a year ago - there is a definite increase in sound quality.

However, it does turn your headphones into the most annoying things ever for people who are in the same room as you as they too can hear, quite loudly and clearly.
Nothing lets the terrorists win more than spending ourselves into a stupor chasing non-existent boogy men.
> Academia couldn't care less about the knowledge available to the average internet user.

Except for just about every elite university, most of which make their courses available online for free.
The top line there doesn't make much sense to me. It sounds like it means "The first 1000 to join get the Premium Theme Pack for free!", but I'm not sure what the "more share" part is.

I'm not so into this kind of thing, so I don't want to join up and take someone's spot and wind up not using it.
Let's put them back on there and add a chapter titled 'controversy over Wikipedia deletion' - plenty of sources there :-)

(I am only half kidding in fact, I remember something like this happening a while ago but don't remember what the precise article was about)
I've always wanted to implement this in my IRC client, but been too lazy, it's nice to see it implemented in some form of chat client, although it's a bit lacking. Is the change visible for all participants?
None of the articles I nominated for deletion had any reliable sources to back them up.

Impact is not a measure of whether a source is reliable, peer review is. One can argue that journals with higher impact factors are likely to have more rigorous peer review, but the AfD's have not talked about journal impact factor.

Note that TOPLAS, a source for the Nemerle article, had an impact factor of 1.92 in 2010, the highest PL journal, and among the higher CS journals overall.

Also note that the high-impact CS conferences are peer reviewed. This fact, and the general importance of conference publications in CS, appeared to have escaped the participants in the AfDs I looked at.

The article was deleted for lack of reliable sources: what does the number of citations that this or that article has have to do with that?

Nazi/asshole/whatnot - These people are pathetic. Don't be put off by them.
There was a time when I didn't understand the need for Wikipedia, as I figured every kind of information would just be retrievable with Google (or another search engine).

Now Google and Wikipedia are failing at the same time. Bad.