skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'm aware there are people that use it that way. I've seen this discussion on the internet before.

I am unlikely to do so, in part because of negative experiences from a very toxic forum where I was treated like absolute shit.

Please note that I'm backing up someone else's claim about this being a phenomenon. I'm telling you they aren't making that up. There are Americans who view that as a masculine term. I'm actual living proof this is not a bullshit claim.

Sorry you are having such a big problem accepting that.
My (rushed, sorry) take is that Naval expresses a rather naive take on the future.

I've seen this sort of scenario promised for 5 decades now, and while the technological benchmarks get met, most people are still slogging away in boring office or technical jobs, just the same.

This dream would also require a different form of government and economy. As I see it, it will require some heavily state-controlled economy or a substantial Universal Basic Income.

Capitalism isn't exactly going to thrive under the pseudo-gig economy that Naval's take suggests. Most people will continue to have regular, necessary monthly expenditures. And, they are not going to be saving money as a cushion, they're going to be buying the new iPhone/Watch/AirPods/TV/Shiny Thing over and over again every year.

And while I love Naval, I see these naive takes of his , quite often. But that's OK, because it still provides me with food for thought and hey, sometimes I find I'm wrong myself.
I personally think that economics is propaganda. Economists may think they are above ideology, but...
You're right that it's a loose extrapolation at best, but it's rather the best data we have, or at least the best data of which I'm aware. You asked for citations for my claims, and I provided them; I'm showing what happens when people _stop_ working early, not when people never really start or don't for long.

That aside, a society in which no one supports himself but rather is dependent on the noblesse oblige of the state to survive is a dystopia I hope never to see.
Please don't take HN threads into generic ideological flamewar. It's predictable and tedious.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Edit: I forgot to mention that we detached the parent comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22027960.
> There are plenty of people who live their entire lives single

Most of them do so by choice.

I agree that there are a few bitter, violent trolls. Their behavior is used to dismiss an actual societal issue. Nobody really knows what society is supposed to do with men these days, especially in the communities where the "traditional" roles don't exist any more.
If you're going all in on automation, at least try and do it well. In this case I don't see any technical reason why you couldn't have automated monitoring of the screenings, automated raising of alerts if there are issues, remote debugging from some central service desk, centrally controlled announcements to keep customers informed, etc.

And if you're not going the automation route, make personal service a differentiator. In the UK we have the Everyman Cinemas doing this for example, offering sofas with tables, a table service for food and drink, knowledgeable and enthusiastic staff, etc.
My opinion is exactly the reverse. This is not the future. This is a story about a company whose time is highly limited.

I have a company - not a start-up, just a regular ol business- - that will do just under 7 figures of revenue in this, our very first year. 100% bootstrapped from savings.

In an industry which normally requires a high level of trust (think $4000+ upfront spend), we've signed up dozens of customers with ZERO reviews or prior reputation.

How?

We treat other people like humans - we talk to them like they're adults, treat them like they're adults, and have created a very special product that meets their needs as human beings.

Everything is designed from the ground up to be HUMAN FIRST, systems, policies and software be damned.

As long as human beings are the ones spending the money, companies like mine will own the future.
this has some elements of cultural difference. in America, we want to be coddled with empty sorries and emphatic statements. the reality is seeing a movie is a transaction, and in many other countries, they don't get as excited about seriously apologising over and over.

how much extra money per ticket would you pay for those sorries in exceptional circumstances? when i was growing up, i went to a 'mom and pop' theater. people knew each other, you got to know the owner and talk to him about what he was booking.

he was priced out. most people prefer saving a few bucks per ticket, and will give up sorries to get it. that's capitalism for you, giving people what they actually want, not what they ask for it think they want. capitalism follows the money.
This is already a thing in China and their social credit system. Lose enough points and you can be prevented from buying a train ticket or booking a flight [0]. You can probably imagine that rectifying errors in this system is... troublesome.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/01/china-bans-23m...
Jáchymov: the Czech town that invented the dollar
Well, yes, of course having a tech on is worth it if the tech has something to do. That's how jobs work. The problem for the cinema is whether or not the tech has something to do often enough that his salary is less than the refunds they have to make if he doesn't exist. Your parent post is suggesting that the cinema has done the math and said "fuck it, that doesn't happen often enough that we care".

You can't determine whether the cinema lost money on the film: You know that some people received refunds, which means the movie made less money than it could have, but you have no data on whether or not half the patrons kept watching and still paid. (And even then no data on whether or not that covers costs. Maybe they all bought huge buckets of popcorn, a higher margin product, that they didn't refund.)

We also don't have an estimate on how frequently this goes wrong, although we can guess that the frequency is low enough that the chain doesn't see the need to keep techs on -- and, in fact, the previous technical role of the projectionist been largely eliminated.
I wish there was, but I don't know of one. Tech is full of young people and therefore mostly liberal. I was liberal myself when I was younger. I still largely am on social issues.
A Breathtaking Reconstruction of Julius Caesar
Actually, putting on Juggalo makeup will land you on a gang watch list.

Once on the watch list, it is likely that any attempt to evade surveillance will be used to justify more invasive surveillance.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/solitary-confin...
> Have you ever been to a developing country? They work they way you suggest. People just run electricity and water wherever they can and throw up houses anywhere.

> Turns out it’s not actually an improvement though.

I have been to several. If you are trying to make some sort of direct comparison, your argument seems inadequate, as there are so many differences impacting economic activity.
Scott touched & improved the lives of countless people and their families. His courses & talks have always been very high quality. They also have had some of the longest shelf lives of any courses I've came across.

When it comes to educators in writing software, Scott is at the top level. He was doing it before the gold rush of people doing it for money & fame. His quality was amazing, he was incredibly humble & very kind.
For example, two decades ago I was ~comfortable driving a couple hundred km to a mall, and buying a gift card for cash. Or mailing cash in the mail. I drove back roads, avoided toll bridges, and didn't carry a cellphone.

I wouldn't do that now.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22027960.
Because of this alert I actually learned that Ontario Power Generation and the city of Toronto offer free Potassium Iodine pills to anyone living within 50km of the reactor in case of a radiation leak:

https://preparetobesafe.ca
It’s not that there are some people who use it “that way.” It’s the standard usage: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/you_guys

No need to make this personal with your last sentence.
>I guess I just don't agree with the author of the article that this is a bad thing.

It really isn't. If the theater company loses enough business, it won't exist any more. And TBH there isn't much they can really do against streaming services delivered for cheap in amazing quality. We're less willing to pay the time cost of going out and dealing with a bad theater, traffic, disruptive people in the theater, etc.

But I think the author is more worried about a general lax approach to handling things when technology goes wrong. It's fine for a movie theater to have IT problems, but less so a hospital or government service. And personally I'm not at all sure some hospitals or governments are above movie theaters in technical prowess.
If the temperature in your car is 140 Celsius, you have bigger problems than carcinogenic medicine.
Yes, within Construct 3 you are able to create your graphical assets. Here's a demonstration of someone adding a sprite to their game which shows the interface for drawing the raster sprite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVGOYvZxlqk&t=3m8s
Please don't respond to a bad-for-HN comment with an even-worse-for-HN one. That's going the wrong way down a one way street.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I write my scripts in zsh, because its extensions are most useful in scripts, and it’s not too hard just to make it available everywhere you need to work (e.g. you can compile it to be installed in ~/zsh and just copy the installation to your home directory on any machine you need to use.

Things like array-linked variables ($path is an array version of $PATH and modifications to one propagate to the other), associative arrays (dictionaries in python) and a handful of other really nice tools (e.g. saner white
space handling) make going back to bash for scripts unpleasant.
Maybe there's a way to align incentives? E.g. schools are (partially) government-funded, but the funding is a function of the taxes that people who have attended the school pay.

Still there are a few issues that would need to be fixed, off the top of my head: (1) the function should simply be a mean, to make schools focus on desired outcomes (e.g. the minimal (or 5th percentile) education) - otherwise they'd just focus on producing a few outliers, like VCs; (2) there needs to be a "default" funding available (e.g. average of all schools) to enable innovation (starting new schools); (3) there needs to be some funding available for "non-profit" education (e.g. art) but maybe there should be a limit on the number of people that can attend such schools (for free).
Please don't take HN threads into ideological flamewar. It's not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
You’re assuming they we

a. Are accurately pricing teacher pay (if the upper bounds of private schools are any indication, we are not)

b. The downstream effects wouldn’t be catastrophic.

Certainly most American parents could not afford to properly educate themselves enough to do this job, let alone educate their children.

Finally, a miseducated generation of children would probably end up costing us trillions of dollars in incarceration, health care, etc.

You must think about the nth order effects of these things. Hence our completely inaccurate valuation of them.
This is not specially the future. This is the low cost. When you pay a minimal price for a service, you have a minimal service.
<(command) is being replaced by a path to a file which contains the output of the command:

$ ls <(echo A)
/dev/fd/63

$ cat <(echo A)
A

So

diff <(command1) <(command2)

becomes

diff /dev/fd/62 /dev/fd/63
My local theater is refreshingly honest about this (probably some annoyed employee letting off some steam) - under the screen displaying the showtimes, a poster has been put up stating 'Given times are start of commercials. Feature starts twelve minutes after posted time.'
It is called process substitution and specific to Bash (not POSIX shell compliant). The output of the commands in parenthesis will become runtime (file) inputs for the diff command.

More: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Process-S...
> an educated free market

"educated" is pretty vague. For instance, some people think that a 75% tax rate on high income is reasonable. The "market" doesn't have the right answer on what the right tax rate should be, and how everyone should contribute to the common good. This (and many parameters that already restrict the mythical free market) should be decided by the society.

Besides, someone can earn money only if they live in a country that gave them the opportunity to do so. If the hypothetical doctor was born in the jungle somewhere, it's unlikely that he or she would have been able to make any money. In that sense, it's hard to argue that a high-tax rate is confiscatory, and I don't find it outrageous if they can only afford 5 cars instead of 10, if that can give more people access to health care.
diff compares files line by line, here we just redirect the output of cmd1 and cmd2 via <, so they serve as 'proxies' for the file-args diff expects

you might want to read into redirection on the commandline, it's amazingly powerful
"In many cases, the only failing of the person had been to not pay the debt".

Explain again, how that is the article's fault, "deceiving us" into feeling a "restitution center" is a "debtor's prison".

There are people there who have crimes other than/as well as financial obligations. But there are also those who solely have the financial side.

Your argument is that because it's not a "civil debtor's prison", it doesn't count. But that's you inserting that qualifier. Historically, debtor's prisons were used both criminally and civilly.
I've had building something like this in the back of my mind for a while. Free idea (the reason I wanted this): use this to build an interface to crypto smart contracts (e.g. Ethereum). Payment processing seems similar to signal processing (which these node editors are good at, e.g. Max/MSP, Unity shader graph).
> So the "IQ floor" of the economy is rising

I bet this is a wrong implication. Agriculture is way harder than writing php.

> The result is that the high IQ people are fine, but low IQ people end up simply unemployable at any job

Even if this implication were true, there is a whole bunch of new jobs that don't require you to be smart.

You could do sports, train people, be a waiter or a beauty blogger or a web programmer or a politician. I would dare say that the amount of stupid work is growing.

And avg person is not dumb at all, never was. The dumbest few always would find some way of doing some service job, especially when service field is growing. All kind of grooming does not require you to be especially smart, even chimps can do that.
Tax is not coercion, we live in a democracy. You pay tax because society has decided to fund certain things via contributions from all. It's like the membership fee in a club used to pay for the clubhouse. If you don't like it, stop using the facilities and leave.

I pay my taxes willingly to fund schools, hospitals, police, justice - all the basic infrastructure needed to maintain civilization. I vote to influence the priorities with which this money is spent.

Have you all forgotten how to nation or what?
Why this obsession with "newness"? If the podcast is crap because nothing they are talking about is new enough, then maybe you're better of not listening to it. If it's good content and discussions, they'll be timeless.
> How many pills should I have on hand?

> Each adult in the household should have 4 pills available, and each child should have two pills available. This is enough for 2 days supply.

Is this enough? The radioactive half life of I-?131? is 8 days. Or is the dose so high that you won't uptake any from the environment for a while?
Do you mean the mid south, west south or Deep South? There could be a huge difference between Texas, Atlanta, and Mississippi. The caps on Deep South isn’t an iOS auto correct error.

I lived in Mississippi for four years and they definitely took offense in the small town I was living in. The size of the community might also be relevant. I’m not an ethnolinguist, so can’t really comment on why it is or isn’t.
This has been true since platter systems took over in the 80s and 90s.

Back in that era, I saw so many movies that had completely broken projection and the staff had no idea what to do. Like now, it was so automated that all they knew was how to click the button to start the movie. Today's cinema systems are so much more reliable in comparison.

So maybe it's best to just acknowledge that there's a lost art here: film projection. The best looking 35mm film projection I ever saw in a regular theater was "The Man Who Wasn't There" at the Catlow. That theater had a projectionist who had worked there since WWII[1].

But, thanks to technology like digital projectors with autofocus, almost every movie I see today has better projection than that standout experience. It looks beautiful even weeks after release, since there's no physical film that gets scratched, starts to weave, etc.

[1] - https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2003-08-31-030831...
It might be easiest to view it like so:

$ echo <(echo 1) <(echo 2)
/dev/fd/63 /dev/fd/62

The shell spawns two commands connected to pipes, then replaces those with a file that represents the other (read) side of that pipe.

The command above with >(grep something) does the same thing, just with the other end of a pipe.
> I guess I just don't agree with the author of the article that this is a bad thing.

My impression was that the author wasn't saying it's a bad thing to have occasional technical issues. The author criticized how, when a technical issue inevitably came up, the theater staff didn't explain what's going on. After some time the staff restarted the movie, indicating they knew there was a problem, but didn't bother to tell the audience anything.

The author did also mention not having technical staff on site, but I think the primary problem was communication.
This article is so tooth-achingly dull, that I hope n-gate will pick it!
Companies like yours get acquired and inevitably are corrupted in the process.
Not if you transfer the houses to the renters.
Anec-data here: in Russia, there are ads (TV and print) for beer, but only non-alcoholic beer.
The initial alert happened at 7:24 aim.

Between 8:06 am and 9:12 am a number of government officials, starting with the Pickering Fire Chief via CP24 [0] started announcing that the alert was sent in error.

At 9:12 am we were told the alert was sent by mistake via the alert system.

At 12:55 pm we were finally told that there actually was no nuclear incident, and the alert was sent by accident during training [1].

Why the hell did it take 42 minutes for any sort of public information to be broadcast after the initial alert.

Why the hell did it take an additional hour and 6 minutes to realize they should send that information through the official system, instead of letting people wonder what information is accurate and what information is caused by the fog of war. Note that the same places we were told it was a mistake were previously telling us people were responding to an incident [2].

Why the hell did it take an entire 6 hours after the alert for the authorities to inform us that there hadn't actually been a nuclear accident, instead of a nuclear accident that was contained enough they didn't feel the need to alert us via emergency systems?

[0] https://twitter.com/CP24/status/1216345708971929600

[1] https://news.ontario.ca/mcscs/en/2020/01/statement-from-the-...

[2] https://twitter.com/CP24/status/1216337813957947393
The <(foo | bar) syntax evaluates to a file path, e.g.

$ echo <(echo hi)
/dev/fd/63

If a program reads from that file path, it gets the output of the command chain.

$ cat <( (echo foo; echo bar) | grep bar )
bar

Of course, that's a silly example. But that explains how the diff example works, since it's the same idea: diff just reads from the two "files".

EDIT: Heh, 5 different replies within the same 60 second window.
Now you're changing your claim. You're not talking about real wage increases, you're talking about an increase that's bigger than the productivity increase.

Even that doesn't necessarily increase inflation 1:1. Your models are off.

You can't talk about a single demographic because multiple demos buy the same products. The demand curves have multiple customers.
I do not doubt that there must be some jobs that are bullshit, I might also assume some companies have more than others because those companies are broken in some way, or perhaps so profitable in some specific divisions that they can afford to have plenty of bullshit around and not even notice it. Finally it might be that some jobs are bullshit part of the time and other parts of the time really important.

But I doubt the distribution can be so high as people are always insinuating in these bullshit jobs subthreads.

Given the desire to always cut the useless non-profit parts of a business there will always be some pressure to find and eliminate bullshit, even as there may be some countervailing pressures to create bullshit. I think though that the feedback loops of capitalism are such that if you end up with too much bullshit at a company over time there would have to be a correction, leading either to the elimination of most of the bullshit or the downfall of the company.

If one believes most jobs or a great proportion of them are bullshit then that person should refrain from complaining about MBAs and their cost cutting measures getting rid of jobs - because probably those jobs were the bullshit ones.

(on edit - assuming bullshit jobs are a disease of the employment place I think for the sake of analogy the percentage should be the same as the flu, so 5 to 20 percent in a company, if a company has 20% or more bullshit jobs that company has an epidemic on its hands and needs to do something. If it's 5% ah, that you can live with.)
I think if it's set to silent/vibrate, it won't generate audio on most phones.

But as I'm on-call for my organization, that's not an option.
Yes. You're directing the STDOUT of each command as a FILE into diff. Diff takes two files, thus the duplication.
What did you expect?

This isn't the future - this is how it's been for decade(s) and it's just you only notice it when it "goes wrong" (for whatever reason)

When your cinema ran film, there needed to be somebody who could "deal with film"... I believe there used to be a profession called "A Projectionist"

Pretty much from the moment films were digitally distributed, the multiplex became a giant automated jukebox - only staff there are to sell you food and to clean up the mess you left from your food.

First time I hit this (easily over a decade ago) was when somebody had left the polarizing filter on the projector lens and we were trying to watch a 2D film. Eventually we got somebody to "take the filter off" and we could actually see the film properly - but then restarting the film descended into a cluster-fuck of trying to convince the DRM system that they weren't trying to show a bootleg showing and how even if they did restart, it was going to through the centrally-planned multiplex schedule into chaos.
> I was going to tease you about the Brexit and how your village won't be in Europe for long

Lol :)

I'm in Scotland so it'll not be long before we're independent and back again.