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> For many people, such advice boils down to "Just be a prisoner of your limitations and don't ever try to overcome them or grow as a person."

You are seriously misinterpreting what I said.

What I said applied to a very specific scenario, the one described in the article: you have something you want to tell or ask people when you don't know them or their work very well, and you aren't sure how to say it or ask it without giving offense.

If you don't like the fact that the best thing to do in that situation is nothing--don't tell or ask them--then you have an obvious way to change the situation so that's no longer the only good option you have: get to know the people and their work better. In other words, connect with them, exactly as you describe. Once you've connected with them, you will either know how to tell or ask them what you wanted to tell or ask them, or you will have found out that you don't need to tell or ask them any more, because you have found out the information you originally wanted without having to.

I understand that connecting with people like this is very hard for many people, particularly techies. It's hard for me. But that doesn't mean you should try to avoid it, and I never said you should.

> I cannot fathom why you have such a big problem with someone using a blog post to crowd source suggested wording to try to explore how to do X better.

Because he's doing it backwards. He's trying to tell or ask something potentially offensive to people he doesn't know well, without trying to get to know them better first. In other words, instead of asking how to do X better, he should realize that he needs to do Y first, before even thinking about doing X.
Amazon Corretto is their OpenJDK Java distro that is free and Open Source. I don't know if the project was already using Corretto or not, but it makes sense for them to recommend their own, supported, open source solution.
>you'd think #node.js and #javascript channels on Freenode would be massive

The entire point of still hanging out on IRC is to avoid node and js-wielding hipsters, so no, I wouldn't expect those channels to be massive. IRC is still the definitive resource for anything related to sysadmin/sre/netops/mailops.

>Things like "always online" and offline messaging

That's also kinda the point. I don't want anyone who joins to be able to search everything I've said in that channel over the last 5 years. Some users may keep personal records, sure, but the history doesn't need to be highly available. Likewise with offline messaging -- if I'm saying something on IRC, I want to talk to "the room". If I want to contact someone specific I could PM them, sure, but I could also just email them like a normal person. IRC is meant to be ephemeral -- and that's what makes it so great compared to Slack/Discord.
Seems like “interesting“ timing given that the Alphabet board just recently stated they’re investigating the handling of sexual misconduct by executives:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/technology/google-sexual-...

And relatedly:

> Charlie Ayers: Sergey’s the Google playboy. He was known for getting his fingers caught in the cookie jar with employees that worked for the company in the masseuse room. He got around.

Heather Cairns: And we didn’t have locks, so you can’t help it if you walk in on people if there’s no lock. Remember, we’re a bunch of twentysomethings except for me—ancient at 35, so there’s some hormones and they’re raging.

Charlie Ayers: H.R. told me that Sergey’s response to it was, “Why not? They’re my employees.” But you don’t have employees for fucking! That’s not what the job is.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/valley-of-genius-exc...
In Oakland? You just pull the bed to the side of the road and it's gone within a day, tops. Same with most metro areas.

Also a lot of non-trash-strict places will take a mattress in the trash pickup if you just put it near the trash can and make it known it's trash. Also, for the same reason it's hard to sell a mattress, it's easy to buy one used in a new city. If you can afford to heat treat it, you can be sure theres no bed bugs, or if you have a job, buy a $200-$300 mattress from amazon - theyre surprisingly good these days.

I moved 10 times in the first 3 years I was on my own, and have done huge moves up/down since (up to a three bedroom, then decided I hated owning so much and downsized to a studio.) - no family, no savings, just a lot of manual labor/smart packing.

I think ops comment stands, unless you are used to some crazy nice cost of living (which is a different privilege).
Likewise, in the '40s, paint manufacturers promised to phase out lead in paint "voluntarily". In 1973 it was finally outlawed, with nothing like a beginning of a phase-out in the interim.

1973 was a low point for trust of fatcat industry, coinciding with revelation of Watergate abuses. It is hard to believe any new such regulation could be enforced today.
I provided that /feedback as soon as it rolled out (to me) I guess 6mo ago. I even got a reply along the lines that it was totally reasonable and eminently sensible, and yet here we are.
I'm going to preface this post by saying that I don't have a problem with most of my coworkers (male and female) being Asian. In fact, I prefer it. I'm not Asian, but the majority of my friends, classmates, and coworkers throughout my life have been, and that continues even now during my career in tech.

Whenever I see anything related to affirmative action being discussed nowadays, I think that it's only a matter of time until Asian women are treated the same way as Asian men. Once you've managed to close the gender gap in engineering, you have a new problem to deal with -- a lack of diversity among women engineers in regards to race and socio-economic class. A continued pursuit of diversity will require discrimination similar to that exhibited by prestigious American universities.

My coworkers (past and former) and friends who are women SWEs overwhelmingly fall into two buckets: American-born Chinese with parents who are middle-class or higher, and PRC-born Chinese with wealthy parents.

I get the strong impression that gender diversity is viewed as more important than race and class. I'm a male of color who has been in the industry for more than four years now, so I no longer have to worry about breaking in. If I were applying to CS programs or looking for my first job right now, I would feel some resentment. I've convinced and helped three of my friends to do a career switch because there's just so much assistance (financial, educational, and otherwise) available for women. From what I've seen, there is just so much more provided to help women get into the field.

I commend the big tech companies for lumping male URMs and all women together when it comes to prioritization, but this isn't the case for most companies, who are expending great effort on balancing the gender ratio while treating men of color as second-class URMs, or even ignoring their status completely. It's fortunate that the best jobs are the most fair, but even if a place sucks, a first SWE job is still a first SWE job.

What I predict will happen is the gender gap will begin to close, but the aforementioned diversity issues not related to gender will remain. This will be due to a combination of various factors, with the most significant being fatigue with affirmative action practices, and that discussing socio-economic and race is much more sensitive than discussing gender, Saying "stop hiring men" or "only hire women" is easy, even if you are asking people to discriminate against candidates similar to themselves. "Stop hiring Asian women" is not. And if you are willing to make that request, why would anyone listen?
Pretty much true given my knowledge. It is probably time to disband the FDA. That's the easy part. But the FDA serves a vital purpose and a new agency would be required to replace it
He's a Type-2 CEO [1], a Ballmer, Sculley, or Cook figure. These types of personalities are generally incapable of innovating, but they're very good at maximizing the growth, efficiency, and profit potential of existing product lines. Wall Street loves them because they lead to higher EPS; the general public generally considers them mediocre because they don't lead to awesome new toys to play with.

Personally I thought Sundar was a very good manager (much better than Larry, who honestly sucked as a CEO) but a poor innovator. As a HN commenter you're probably looking for an innovator. The average user (who just wants Google to stay up) and the average investor (who just want to make more money) are quite happy having a good manager who can optimize operations, though.

[1] https://a16z.com/2010/12/16/ones-and-twos/
Spending my time as of late in npm's particular flavor of DLL hell, I appreciate the Go team taking a stab at this hard and persistent problem. I agree with other commenters' observations that the tooling hasn't caught up with the philosophy, but the philosophy seems on-point (and the key observation that as the dependencies of a project approach infinity, the odds of two branches of a dependency tree wanting to rely on two different versions of the same library approach 100% and there should be a sane way to address that need... npm does a 99% decent job of addressing this, but I've definitely hit issues with npm where objects generated by a newer dependency version have leaked into a codepath where an older version is calling the shots, and it's an absolute hellscape to debug).
They definitely don't need to get to the same place at the same time, and don't even need to end up at the same final destination. Some will go onto PhD programs, some will not, etc. Having two (or more) separate tracks allows the late starters a better chance at gaining competence without getting crushed by the competition with more experience.
This article says David Drummond was involved in an extramarital affair with an employee, it doesn’t say that Page or Brin are being investigated for sexual misconduct.

Where’s your evidence that they’re stepping down over some personal scandal? This seems like a rather bold claim.
> thus making it more likely the book will survive via an SSD than a physical book

Yes. That's what I mean by LOCKSS being easier.

> is found and is understood by an archaeologist,

There is a problem with merging these two probabilities.

The probability of finding a book is of course massively smaller than the probability of finding a digital copy.

The probability of understanding a book is so much greater than the probability of understanding a file on a disk.

This makes it more likely that the physical book will survive in a meaningful way.

> It could also be the case that each generation would copy these books onto new digital media

This is what I mean by archivists actively transforming the content. Regarding written content like the Iliad, copies and translations can be made centuries apart. Content in digital formats may need to be transformed whenever the application that reads it is discontinued.
It's a South Park reference.
I too find it bewildering to uncover the truth when there's evidence on both sides; that's why I made https://en.howtruthful.com/
They have a mission, to control the interface between consumers and digital business.

All their 'random' stuff makes sense in that context.
>Keep that in mind when some politician or business owner goes on about "bureaucrats". Because "bureaucrats"

You rarely hear even the small government politicians rail against bureaucrats because being able to use their influence withing the bureaucracy for favors (some more ethical than others) is a source of power for them. They may complain about the priorities of the bureaucracy (e.g "we should be funding X not Y") but they don't lament the existence of the administrative arm of government.
I've heard from a Googler that yes, they want the workforce to match the outside world. With that in mind read https://diversity.google/annual-report/#!#_what-would-it-tak... and "That’s why in 2019 we challenge ourselves and others to think differently so that we widen pathways to tech. Only then will we reflect our consumer base, and truly elevate our ability to build products for everyone."

So Google wants to reflect the consumer base, so I guess we can take that to mean ~50% female devs?
the root causes of the shift in male/female ratios in technical fields isn't biological

I agree with this, but I'd just note that the shift isn't as dramatic as you are making out.

Computing was a woman-dominated field until relatively recently in history

The field of computing started in the 1950s (generously). Worker proportions are difficult to estimate, but the maximum proportion of female computer science degrees was 37% in around 1987[1]. In 1986 The Atlantic noted that "[in the federal government] only seven percent of the employees in the top five CS [pay grade] ratings were women, while more than three quarters in the bottom grades were."[2]

[1] https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/chart-of-the-day-the-declinin...

[2] https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1986/09/women-i...
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Ha, I wish I could disable "threads" so nobody else can use them...
"I think it's worth noting these little hints that outgoing and extroverted are thought to be synonymous with "good leadership" (in the US, at least)"

I don't think it's synonymous, but it's required. To be a good leader, you need to enjoy being around and understanding people.

Most introverted people don't really enjoy either.

I've had many introverted managers and they all were horrible: lack of communication which went hand-in-hand with passive aggressive behavior.
Not one mention of age as being a factor as passing over good talent because of ageism. I'm 54, I walk through the door to interview and people run the other way before I even sit down with them because I probably look like their Dad -- meanwhile, i'm not only as current on skills than anybody I'm talking to, I'm probably the best option at a startup since I've seen it all (three and four times over). It's ridiculous that you age out of this industry at 45.
Even so why do diversity weights exist at all? Should it not be based on performance or results? I understand the notion that people can be biased resulting in biased hirings, but why does that insist we must twist the bias in the opposite direction? Both sides of this fight are equally guilty of not hiring on the right principles which is how well can a person do a job.
Personally, I feel like they should have tightened integration of Google Photos with one of their existing messaging apps rather than creating yet another messaging app within Google Photos. If I were a betting person, I'd say that this feature is one of those that Google will end up just removing.
Well Prusa, the creator of the most cloned and world most popular 3D printer design is happy about all the clones. And they occupy different spaces in the market. Clones are $250 and the Prusa is $1000. And yet business is booming. As an open hardware creator myself my hope is always that someone else better at manufacturing will clone my work so I can source from them and focus on whatever reasons I had for making the hardware.
Is there a cloud computing service that provides a free tier that doesn't need a credit card? I like to maintain a personal website, and I've had to periodically hop from one platform to another.

I started on free.fr, my parents' ISP, with a web page built in iWeb. But then I wanted a .com domain.

I moved to Wordpress, but that didn't let me customise the layout.

Then I moved to Google App Engine (appspot), which is good, but it's blocked in China.

Then I moved to OpenShift (rhcloud), which was great while it lasted. It wasn't just for hosting a static web page - I could SSH into the server, at last! But it shut down the free tier.

I tried Heroku, but I'm getting warnings about 80% of monthly usage even when there's no content there, just a redirecting page.

Currently I'm using Github Pages, but I worry about how Microsoft will try monetising that. It's also a pity not to have SSH, FTP, or SQL - all my apps (e.g. Pingtype) have to run on the client in localstorage.

The company I'm working for spends over $3000 per month on AWS.

Whenever I read about these "free giveaway" AWS coupons that require registering with a credit card, I just think that there's going to be a nasty fee like this. So in practice I just run things locally on my laptop. If there's a better provider, please tell me though! It's been a few years since I last checked the options, and moved everything over to Github.
Could Amazon really have that many internal projects? That doesn't seem right.
Someone mentioned mdBook, that thing is written in Rust and is amazingly fast even for huge sites.

https://github.com/rust-lang/mdBook
Is there a specific reason us-west-1 is more congested? Is it somehow more desirable, or is it just what people pick because they're on the west coast, and it's first on the list?
Would be interesting if they cashed out their war chest and started another search engine. Won't happen but fun to think about.
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Ya, if this site could accurately predict future trends, it would have been worth..... at least.... (counts using fingers).... 7 times as much!

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It would've been easier to explain $thing without having to stop and consider $x. Effort was expended for no gain.
No way to embed things... no emojis... no editing or deleting... seems like you are enumerating the advantages of IRC
I don't think many enteprises are eager to have AGPL floating around in their repo's or has that changed?

I don't think google allowed checkins of AGPL to their repo but maybe this has all changed.
My point is that, if there is in fact a pipeline problem, that probably does not constitute a shift in responsibility away from the hiring company. Saying "you cannot expect to make things better than they are at the input of your pipe segment" is explicitly attempting to shift responsibility away from the hiring company. I simply disagree. I think a company is still largely responsible for the outcomes of its hiring process, even if fixing those outcomes turns out to be an extremely hard problem that cannot be solved overnight with a diversity webinar.
I'm not sure that Sundar has been a good CEO. The constant shutdown of google services that people rely on has been troubling. The management troubles over employees lately has been troubling as well. They still own the search market, but would you worry about the lifespan of the google products you're thinking of buying?

I still have a Sony Google TV, it works great as a TV but the android OS is no longer supported, so there are no more OTA updates. It's a shame because it seems like if they had thought about it they might have wondered what happens when they no longer support the product.

There was a time when Google questioned the value of managers and managers had to prove their value to the engineers. Maybe it's time to question their value again.
The fact that nobody in the gun industry wants to touch them with a 10ft pole hasn't stopped the ATF from hiring people who know how guns work.
Right, but your automl solution is using Tensorflow, no? (even for automl-tables).
And also infamous for its student activism, some would argue past the point of all sense (see: Bret Weinstein).
I don't think it's just that, though. I'd never heard of it, or the concept of it, when I first saw one of those "doctors hate this weird trick for getting rid of parasites" or whatever ads. It had a photoshop of some kind of a seed pod onto human skin, so it looked like a bunch of worm heads inside holes or something. I almost threw up the instant I looked at it. I later found out that lots of people have that reaction, and it had a name. I think sometimes just naming something gives it life, because then it's an actual thing that people can identify with or not. I'm sure there are lots of phobias or... I dunno, triggers?... that would affect me but I've never experienced or heard of them before so I have no awareness of them. A name might give me that awareness.

But yes, it's a weird, weird thing. No one ever talked about being afraid of clowns when I was a kid. Lots of people liked them, lots were indifferent, but I don't recall ever hearing anyone say they were frightened of them until much later in life. And I clearly remember the first time I heard of anyone disliking the word "moist", and thinking I was being trolled.
Cook-ing forward is much more appetizing.
In that case I think it's fair to point out that the OP's interpretation of the memo is valid ("Damore's memo (which I assume is what you're talking about) absolutely did not attribute Google's lack of women candidates to a lack of graduates in the pipeline.") and has to call into question your accusation of misquoting ("You're misreporting the very link you quoted.")

The OP's comment seems closer aligned to what Damore's actual argument was (as opposed to your interpretation).
This might be intresting:

https://medium.com/analytics-vidhya/google-automl-tables-a-f...
There's the "math majors' math track" and the non math majors' math track at most institutions. Even within the majors track, there's separation between experience levels and intended tracks within the discipline. Ex:

MAT215-217: Recommended for math majors, some prior experience in constructing formal proofs is useful but not required.

MAT216-218: Accelerated math major sequence, for students with substantial background in university-level proof-based analysis courses.

MAT214-204-203: Alternative path to majoring in math, with a more algebraic introduction to proofs

MAT203-204-215: Alternative path to majoring in math; good path for the applied math certificate.

https://www.math.princeton.edu/undergraduate/placement/seque...

Lumping all these students into one general course would be a disservice to everyone, like you say, and should be spilt up.
> the defining feature is envy. envy for people who succeeded.

Unfortunately, that describes human nature in general.
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The walkout was a bait and switch. It was organized (using underhanded means --- for example, a rogue employee force pushing a desktop background update to everyone without authorization) on the basis of protesting Google's payout to Andy Rubin. Fine.

But at the same time, a small number of employees put together a document (without public input) making "walkout demands" and ever since, this small but very vocal group of employees has been going around claiming that 20,000 people support the list of demands in this doc. Not the case. Total lies, in fact.
Stories about Sergey and Brin are longstanding and easily researchable. And Larry Page is who paid Rubin $90 million without approval before it got out why Rubin was leaving. But here's an example for Sergey as well:

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-sergey-brin-employees...

> Ayers said in the excerpt that when the company's human-resources department raised eyebrows at Brin's behavior, Brin suggested he was entitled to engage with his employees in whatever manner he saw fit.

> "HR told me that Sergey's response to it was, 'Why not? They're my employees,'" Ayers said. "But you don't have employees for f---ing! That's not what the job is."

The boys club at the Alphabet C-level goes to the very, very top, and it would be impossible to address Drummond without addressing Page and Brin.
It's not all corn starch now.

Talc is still big business.