skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'm going to take the opposite of this argument, and for bonafides, I run the product team for a 1000+ person company.
I'm going to assume that this thing was tested out the wazoo, both qualitatively and behind enough feature-flags and buckets to keep Optimizely in business for a year. So I have no doubt that this wasn't just a hunch on their part, but something that they meticulously tracked. If I'm wrong, definitely let me know.

Anyway, the main point, what percentage of people do we think knows markdown to such an extent where it's easier for them to use than a WYSIWYG editor would be? I'd venture on HN alone that number is <10%, and considering Slack is used by a far wider and less-savvy audience than on here, I don't have much of a problem with the reasoning behind the change.

I think the lack of backwards-compatibility is a legit criticism, and sure, an opt-out would be nice, but I don't think for a second that this is as egregious as people are making it out to be.
Ok, we've changed the title above from "Ayahuasca alters brain waves to produce waking dream-like state, study finds" to that of the article.
Yeah I would not say IBM has made it out, and MS is not stable either (can both their employees and revenue make it to a new equilibrium?)

The fact is virtually all the large companies are in Byzantium mode. Get ready for hundreds of years of rent seeking without political action. Startups cannot solve this in there own, haha, certainly when they all want to get acquired!!
That's a double standard I haven't considered before. If it has been shown to work on a lower level to the point where companies implement culture fitting, then why isn't being implemented on all levels?
But you're using the browser already!
Assuming you can remember the old you, I think in most cases it's fair to say that it's the new you that has enough knowledge of the old you.

It's just like normal learning really, if you learn something, you become a new you that has knowledge of the old you and the new you might then say "what I learned right now was better."

I know, I'm not the best at philosophy.
At the risk of sounding like a shill, I'd like to shill Zulip. We started using it instead of Slack, and it has been amazing. It's fast, everything is designed to help you get to conversations quickly, keyboard accessibility is second to none and the streams is a much better default than rooms.

I can't recommend it enough, it's well worth the money even though they have a nice free tier and are OSS so you can self-host.
>What do you mean when you say you can't think about it rationally? There are enough survivable experiences physiologically similar to death

That makes no sense. There are some experiences of coming close to death, or what doctors consider death -- which is the mind/organs shutting down, etc.

There is (and can't be) no experience of actual permanent death though, nor has a dead person recounted their experience while a dead person.

The ones retelling the experience are always alive when they do it.
https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history has the details... there's some Gosling code (notably display.c with the skull-and-bones warning) in Emacs 13, but none that I can find in 15 and later.
Actually, the problem of centralized login services tracking users across the net was considered and partially solved in 2010 by a team from Google and MIT. This was at a time when OpenID was the most popular federated login system, so the proposal was called PseudoID.

Unfortunately this idea didn't gain more traction, and there are only a few references to it online now, such as this research paper and a YouTube video by one of the authors:

https://ai.google/research/pubs/pub36553

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCBPuGsO_I4

Also, it didn't address all the methods by which a malicious identity provider could track the user, so it would probably have to be extended by having support added in the browser.
I am concerned with this statement appearing to make a misleading minimization of the cost on the US side, as if it was a simple matter of turning around to a different seller.
Ayahuasca is typically consumed as part of a larger ritual ceremony that steers the participants towards a particular experience (depending on the Shaman you may be told to expect to encounter a certain entity named "Mescalito" for example.)
We changed the submitted title from "MuZero beats AlphaZero, with less training and no explicit rules: fully general" to that of the article.
I agree, no argument here.
Thank you for adding the feature of not adding WYSIWYG. I can't believe how frustrating Slack's new editor is.
I've taken Ayahuasca more than once and every ceremony was something that I could integrate into my life in one way or another. As with all similar substances, the setting and preparation make a huge difference, it should never be done recreationally in the spur of the moment but rather with guides who have experience. NEVER TO BE DONE WHILE TAKING CERTAIN MEDS LIKE ANTIDEPRESSANTS, OPIOIDS, ETC I have never done straight DMT, but from what I have heard I consider it to be a very different experience. Ayahuasca is a very unique experience to each individual although there are indeed stories that are shared such as seeing "machine elves", confronting snakes, feeling unbound from time, meeting a higher entity, etc.
I admire your confidence.
Yes, but not everyone is like that. Just as some people are taller, smarter, more artistic, etc. some people have a baseline happiness that is higher than others. Consider yourself lucky.
Over 40% of kids do extra-ciriculars. We also need to factor in errands, hangouts, etc, that are done after school.

Similarly, there are more adults than children and Adults/parents commute at more dangerous busy times. "Think of the children" should only go so far.
PG's book "On Lisp" also implements an interesting Prolog compiler in Common Lisp. His uses continuation-passing macros.
As someone who works for a small company, but doesn't run it, I'd say resiliency is very important.

The smaller you are, the more you need to be able to ride the waves and expect that things are going to shift out from under you very quickly.

Think Kayak vs Ocean liner.
I'd push back on your last point; there's a zero-sum feedback process here that is invisible. You're seeing the negative feedback from a vocal set of minority power users; the positive feedback from people isn't going to be known or seen in anything other than usage metrics.

You say "users": how many, what percentage, what cohort..you get the idea.
The previous comment is still correct: even without weed we dream a lot and don’t record most of it.

Alcohol in our system at bed time impacts sleep as well. We’re consciously at rest (or blacked out from over consumption if that is ones thing) but our body is busy metabolizing.

Poor signal, YouTube isn’t loading. Not sure if the clip is similar, but as I understand it recording a dream and restless sleep from metabolizing substances are separate processes.
>Maybe? Let's say I had a kid that got kidnapped, and I spend all night restless like a normal human being. Where has that actually gotten me?

People don't respond to things just because it "gets them somewhere", and even less for such events.

One doesn't do a calculation "I'll grieve for X amount of time, because this has the best effects", except if they are a sociopath.

At best they can say after some time "I feel like I've grieved enough now, I should try to get back with life" -- and even that is not a decision, it's a gradual process with regressions, etc.
In my many years of Unixing, I never used any vtxy0 with x greater than 2. The vast majority were vt100 or close. Especially compatibles; the few genuine DEC terminals that came with the machine were left in the machine room.
> Either they're too incompetent to be trusted or are bad actors

I agree but am curious about one thing. If they aren't stupid won't they realize it's a terrible idea to embed weaknesses in standards destined to become so pervasive your own economy will rely on them (as well as your own military/intel)?

Also, history virtually guarantees that your most secret secrets are reasonably likely to become known to your adversaries and used against you with catastrophic consequences? Even if they could entirely subvert the standards process to plant their own backdoor that ends up everywhere, game theory dictates they might be creating their own greatest future weakness.
Noted, and thanks for the suggestion.(though not sure how to get that working). I wish I could delete older posts, but I cannot.
The very nature of the subject is such that it will never be popular ( actually it will be deeply unpopular) and will only strike a chord with a tiny number of people who will happen to see it. I'm not sure how I will get around this. Got to give it some thought...
If they are wrinkle free, why do you need the origami? Why can't you just smash it into a ball and shove it where it will fit?
> The majority of American News can be traced back to 6 billionaires

6 is more than one. A majority is not a totality. And not all Western media is American.
Nobel Speech in Economics, Friedrich von Hayek (1974)
Here's a quick summary list. Each topic is written by a different author and gives an overview of the current state and possible future directions. Well worth reading the full article.

- Biodegradable plastics

- Social robots with artificial intelligence

- Nano-scale lenses for miniature optical devices

- "Intrinsically disordered proteins" (IDPs) to produce drugs against cancer, Alzheimer's

- "Smart" controlled-release fertilizers for more sustainable agriculture

- Collaborative telepresence, virtual gatherings

- Food tracking and packaging with sensors and blockchain, to improve safety/quality control and reduce waste

- Innovations in nuclear reactors and fuels

- DNA data storage

- Innovations for utility-scale energy storage (flow batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, "gravity storage")
You don't need absolute sequentiality for bors's guarantees. You can speculatively build and try to merge multiple PRs in parallel even though only one will "win". That's fine and not thundering herd stupidity of your build system is incremental so you can share work.

None of this is new at all, btw, I'm just regurgitating MVCC from postgresql.
Then why are you discussing? As far as I know from my history studies, the old egyptian society didn't practice slavery. So there is no reason for the assumption, that the "pyramids were built by slavery". Does that rule out, that some of the workers were forced to participate, be it by economic needs or other forms of pressure, e.g. forced labors of prisoners? Of course not.
> You actually had to type LF,

to be clear, this means ctrl-j. I still have to use it very occasionally.

Actually, an LF before `stty sane` is advisable too.
> If you made a mistake it shows you don't know what is necessary to design a rocket (yet).

Yeah, sure SpaceX doesn't know what's necessary to design a rocket.
If a drug significantly alters your brain to the point that you no longer think the way you did before, how do you know you changed for the better? Maybe the old you, the you that existed before you took the drug, would say this is not better. Maybe the new you only thinks you are now changed for the better. Maybe you didn't change at all! After all, do you even have a way to measure what has changed, and how much better or not-better you've gotten? Do you just feel better? Much like an old dinged-up ball bearing with new grease, it may squeak less, but is the ball actually any different than it was before? And in the context of how we feel about ourselves, which really matters? Is our perception of ourselves more important than reality? If so, the statement "It has changed me for the better" is really just saying "I feel better than before".

Another way to look at the question "how do you know if the change made you 'better'": Say you took a drug, and suddenly you changed from being a liberal, to being a Nazi. (This happens a lot, not with drugs, but with events; an event happens, and suddenly someone turns from very liberal, to very far-right conservative) How do you know if the change has made you better? The new you is perfectly fine with Nazi-hood, and thinks you are better. But the old you would be pretty sure that the new you is the exact opposite of better. How can one tell if a change has made them better? Which version should we listen to? How do we define better, and how do we measure it?
It reads more to me like whoever they hire to run their twitter doesn't have the authority/knowledge to engage with complaints other than being nice and saying "I'll pass that on". This would be fine normally, but not really when they've shipped a feature that everyone hates.
What part did I miss out on for this particular technique?
Why not hire, and then train your workers?
> When their entire business depends on very carefully managing their PR

You really think this?
My perception is that their PR is fairly blunt and upfront. while they may not tell you everything they dont seem to be trying to "spin" anything
Speaking relatively here.. spaceships are still more expensive.
PayPal acquires the company behind the Honey deal-finding extension for $4B
This sounds like you've never had a good one.

A good product manager can make a world of difference.
The VT220 had RTS/CTS. You had to turn it on in the menus, and you needed a cable with all the pins connected, but it worked fine.

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/vt220/EK-VT220-TM-...
This has been happening me for about a week on Firefox Android too. When I restart Firefox it somehow works.
I find it at the very least strange that this CDN gets submitted to HN twice today, and you post the exact same extremely positive comment on both submissions.
The Demand for AI Skills in the Labor Market
I somehow doubt a lot of people are going to be happy about a rich text editor that doesn’t work.

A bit like the teams editor, which was forced upon me and is absolutely horrendous.
You absolutely want to find an experienced group in order to guide you. Never do it while taking prescription meds like anti-depressants, opioids or others. Ayahuasca is very different from taking straight DMT. I haven't done the latter, but the experiences I have heard differ significantly in certain respects. You should never do Ayahuasca recreationally in the spur of the moment.

All that being said, there are experienced groups, in Holland for example, that lead safe group Ayahuasca ceremonies, such as a long weekend with 2 ceremonies. Peru is an option but it's much more of a raw experience and less gentle to a western mindset.
As someone who used to be part of a team developing one of the most popular in-browser WYSIWYG editors:

1. Browser WYSIWYGs are really hard to make.

2. All browser WYSIWYGs are terrible.

Avoid rolling your own WYSIWYG if you can. Even if you have a team of 1500 people at your disposal.
This is funny because I work across the street of Slack’s office in Vancouver, Canada and two Slack engineers who I frequently chat with during our daily commute already told me they —and a handful of other employees— hate the WYSIWYG input box too, but were afraid to express their feelings because their role is irrelevant compared to the people who made the decision to ship it.
Fuel is cheap on a monetary basis.

_Lifting_ that fuel is NOT CHEAP. See also, the rocket equation.
The funny thing is that I am sure most of the people who work at slack know it's terrible, but no one asks them. There is a small cohort of product managers who probably have a plausible-sounding reason to do it, and they need to do something to justify their jobs, so they alienate everybody else because no one stops them.

I am, to put it lightly, familiar with this in other companies.
If I pulled up the bounty board and had the choice between "Dig latrines for 20 hours: $3,000" and "Fire-breathing dragon terrorizing village, scales impervious to arrows: $80,000" I could go either way myself

"Maybe I'll take a break on the ultra-rare deadlock and go bang out some python test scripts for a few days.."
I wonder what the numbers are in NYC which has a very good subway system and thus less dependent of Uber for drinking runs than other US cities.
> Not only do we have the privilege of paying Apple to develop on their platform (that devs make more valuable to consumers) but we also have the privilege of paying Apple a 30% cut on virtual goods.

You'll always pay other companies a "cut" of your business, unless you've figured out a way to host your profitable Saas web app for free.
You can submit feedback to Slack using "/feedback" command. The nice thing it appears they have real people give you real replies. I encourage people to use it.

I asked them for the option to turn it off. An excerpt from their response.

> ... we understand that this has caused a disruption in workflows for some of our more technical users. While we don't have any active plans to make this configurable at the moment, we are in the process of collecting user feedback so that we can find a way to make it work for everyone.

I'll be sending this as my follow-up.
I know. I try to give the social media people leeway since they're almost always just the messengers. This thread in particular just seemed laser targeted to aggravate me.
Specific bug gripes aside: I see this editor as emblematic of Slack's broader shift away from what I think it should be (primarily synchronous chat; irc with a friendlier ui and integrated bouncer features) towards what many people seem to want to use it as (async-heavy pseudo-replacement for email where I get to sit and watch the "...is typing" indicator flicker while somebody writes an essay at me).

My rule of thumb generally is: if I need significant rich text formatting in a message I'm writing, it should probably just be an email.

I feel like this increasing hybridization of sync/async comms is largely counterproductive and especially harmful to work-life balance, so it's unfortunate that companies like Slack are apparently unable to focus on core competencies and instead must shoot for disruptive growth via poorly-executed junk like this editor.
Uber will start audio-recording rides as a safety measure
Indeed WPA3 is required for "Wi-Fi CERTIFIED 6" only, but Ubiquiti already stated in a post that they are working on WPA3, even offering it as a software upgrade for many of their older models:

https://community.ui.com/questions/WPA3-for-existing-Unifi-f...
perhaps but its so easy for product managers to not get to the heart of what hackers do
Don't know why you're getting down-voted, this is a logical and sensible conclusion, from a business perspective.
How do you tell the difference between unpopular features and ones that are mostly liked? In both cases, only "a vocal set of minority power users" would say anything.
> Maybe I'm just spooking myself out, but the identity of facts and queries feels reminiscent of Lisp's homoiconicity between code and data.

Wait until you discover Prolog's homoiconicity ;-)

You can treat Prolog terms as data and also add them to the database as code and call the resulting goals like all others:

?- MyFact = f(x), assert(MyFact).
MyFact = f(x).

?- f(A).
A = x.

?- MyRule = (f(g(X)) :- f(X)), assert(MyRule).
MyRule = (f(g(X)):-f(X)).

?- f(A).
A = x ;
A = g(x) ;
A = g(g(x)) .

That is, asserting the "data" "f(x)" and "f(g(X)) :- f(X)" behaves the same as putting the identical-looking "code" in a source file.

You can also query the code and get back it back as identical-looking "data":

?- Head = f(_), clause(Head, Body).
Head = f(x),
Body = true ;
Head = f(g(_G1014)),
Body = f(_G1014).

(The first of these represents the fact "f(X)." as "f(X) :- true." to make things more uniform internally.)

As for what this is good for, you can use it to write your own metainterpreters that execute Prolog code in the normal way, or in some nonstandard or enhanced way, recording tracing data for example. There is a good writeup on metainterpreters at https://www.metalevel.at/acomip/
Between then and now there has been a lot of legislative and legal change empowering corporations and disempowering individuals. (Most notably Citizens United, but that 2010 decision postdates the Boeing takeover.)

I think the main factor here, though, is that executive behavior evolved to exploit existing weaknesses in the regulatory environment in order to maximize their personal benefit at the expense of company health. You can call that a "culture change" if you like.

Some (including me) argue we should respond to such changes by patching the vulnerabilities in the market environment. Others disagree and advocate letting the market sort itself out; I maintain that this means continuing to incentivize bad behavior.
Did you end up hiring any advisors / consultants / wealth managers etc?

If so how did you choose? Did you go by a personal referral or did you go with one who cold called you?
> as per the current definition, it's not a monopoly.

That's why I said they should be regulated...because they currently aren't. When anti-trust laws were being written, software walled gardens weren't a thing. They should be updated for modern times, since the App Store is basically its own industry. It brings in tens of billions of dollars in revenue every year, which is more than the GDP of some countries.
I went ahead and tried to reproduce the article's observations.

> when you do `foo()` it foos the bar.

I typed this exact sequence of characters in the new editor and it formatted exactly as one would expect.

> when you do bar.`foo()` it foos the bar

I was indeed able to reproduce this, and worse: if you put the cursor after the f, delete it, and type f again, the new f will happen before the backticks. One can tell this is about to happen by observing the cursor; even though the cursor is over the little box, it's black (as in for normal text) instead of red/salmon/whatever-that-color-is (as in for code).

That said, one can work around this by selecting all the text to be backtick'd and clicking the </> button (or pressing Ctrl-Shift-C); annoying, but slightly less annoying than having to retype things.
You don't think that has anything to do with the consultancy that was brought in to prevent unionisation?
Daria is another case of that happening. I have seen DVD rips with the audio track from old TV rips floating around somewhere just because people want the music back.

It is a real shame when art gets modified after release due to licensing agreements
Property crime is not down. It ticked down briefly earlier this year, unsurprisingly. Crime numbers vary. But you can see here, https://sfgov.org/scorecards/public-safety/violent-crime-rat..., that they've quickly rebounded as of August, 2019.[1] The trend line is clear.

Look, I supported sentencing and enforcement reform at least as much anyone, but we can't hide from the facts. It's one thing to say that these facts don't prove a causal relationship to sentencing reform, etc. That's absolutely fair. But it's another to deny or diminish the problems. We can't be defensive, fearful of consequences to reform efforts.
If we can criticize the tough on crime crowd for ignoring 20 years of steadily decreasing crime, then we should be prepared to recognize when the numbers don't go our way. Facts aren't for our convenience; they keep us honest and grounded.

[1] See the first slide which includes August, 2019. The second slide with the property crime breakouts end in May, before the regression to the mean.
I wish Enterprise software or anything where I have to pay money to use had strict contracts about changes and mandatory opt-ins.
It's ridiculous that in this day and age, we have to be worried about some PM deciding for large swathes of users what's best for them.
I just want my tools to be predictable and usable and not have to relearn every bit of quirk someone fancied.
That's all fine to have it for people who don't know markdown, but damn we should be able to turn it off if we don't want it.
The Paradox of Self-Consciousness, a Conversation with Markus Gabriel