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Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you thought that, you did not misrepresent your thoughts: it was my post that was confusing. Nonetheless you do present starting a start-up as a serious option to consider for people who want to work at Google.
Saw this link, read up a bit, and then I decided to sign up for Backblaze. It wasn't until I went to download their software on my Mac OS X Server 10.5 box that the website alerted me that it isn't compatible with PPC machines (although it does support 10.5 on Intel machines).

Very annoyed. Cancelled order.
I was wondering what was going on, since the last missive was targeting a final release in January[1]. I'm excited to see this, and especially excited that we're going to see A-grade support for WinPhone 7 soon. Congrats!

[1] http://jquerymobile.com/2010/11/jquery-mobile-alpha-2-releas...
For the first 100 sign-ups, I'll top their accounts up to 1€ in order to place test calls :)
Shouldn't that be "frog" and not "hog"?

(From one to another. Frog, that is.)
I think you missed the irony. Such a small percentage of people will ever type something into a terminal that it's irrelevant.
The problem is that the results would not be so dramatic. It would require statistical analysis to show that there was a difference. Most people's eyes would glaze over -- even though copying was occurring and genuine damage was being done (to market share, to business model, etc.), similar to a low-grade toxin in the environment.
kids these days... a quick call from my parents and in-laws would have been enough for us...
Why exactly is it wrong?
Is there a formal definition for "startup" here? I noticed that Flickr was on the list of previous attendees, can I represent a larger corporation such as Microsoft?
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Then you need to settle with the other guy and one of you needs to leave with a small share of equity for time served.
Unless Bing weighs clicks on Google SERPs more strongly than clicks on Bing SERPs! After all, Google is the market leader...

This is the problem, we really don't know how hollow Bing is any more. If it's a thin UI over results that grow closer to Google, it's intellectually shallow. I wouldn't trust Bing search to combat, e.g., click fraud and SEO better than Google. If anything I would expect the edge cases and tricky behavior to derange Bing further.
love the far7 MMORPG.
http://www.backblaze.com/remote-backup-everything.html

"

•All Your Data
With the exception of your operating system, applications, or temporary files.

•Files up to 9 GB in Size
The default of 4 GB can be raised or lowered in the preferences. iPhoto, Aperture and Lightroom use library bundles that will be backed up at any size.

•Connected Drives
USB and Firewire hard drives and internal drives connected at the time of the install or added later in the settings panel.

•Not Network Drives
Currently we do not backup network drives (NAS drives )

"

"Excluded Files
Backblaze does not want to waste your bandwidth or Backblaze datacenter disk space. Thus, we do not backup your operating system, application files, or temporary internet files that are transient and would not be useful in the future. You can see these exclusions by clicking on “Settings…” in the Backblaze Control Panel and selecting the Exclusions tab.

Some of these excluded files include:

-ISO (Disk Images),

-VMC VHD VMSN (Virtual Drives),

-SYS (System Configuration & Drivers),

-EXE (Application Files).

Backblaze also doesn't backup backups like Time Machine and Retrospect RDB. Backblaze also excludes podcasts in iTunes."
I guess if it really comes down to it Google can encrypt the query in the URL. If Microsoft circumvents this (like by intercepting the JavaScript that encrypts it, or pulling the query out of the HTML input element), then it will demonstrate that they're really intentionally copying Google's results and this "clickstream" business was just a convenient cover.
A far-fetched hypothetical scenario that has little basis in fact.
I am not sure what gruber achieves by such rhetorical statements.

The power of Android is that user can upgrade to latest version of Androd, if they so wish to, As they say CynogenMod to the rescue :-)

I think he is unaware of CynogenMod. Please if anyone of u meet him next time, talk to him about it.
Is it? I thought it was to maximize the value to your shareholders.
I wish I was in the area :(
Very annoyed? Hasn't the tide turned enough that you have to be looking for affirmative evidence that a company DOES support PPC at this point, rather than assuming they do until told otherwise?
Google has something to gain from all this. Consider the implications to Bing/Google competition for marketshare in the following scenario:

MS decides to bundle and auto-install the Bing toolbar in IE. Also default opt-in to the "share clickstream data with MS" option. Now you have tons of users with the Bing toolbar _and_ using Google to search. MS could "use" or "copy" the results of Google's hardwork on search and pagerank and consequently provide some serious competition for search marketshare.
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I'm not quite sold on hipmunk yet. Travel is a pretty competitive industry. UI does not sell tickets. It helps to have a good UI. Bargain prices drive ticket sales. Also, how difficult it is to replicate by competitors? Everybody has access to the same data.
I was browsing the support forums and the team seemed to be copping a lot of (not undeserved) flak over their lack of communication to the public. In response to this they have promised to be much more transparent and have also set up a twitter account.
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Why the -1?

And why shouldn't I be annoyed? It didn't tell me I couldn't use their software until after I had paid them money.
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What does being open have to do with Motorola not updating one of their phones?
The point is that the creators of the data were given a say in how it was used. Googlers have busted a gut to provide 99% of the value of the clickstream data so they should determine how that data is used.

There's a more general point here: If something is difficult to do but easy to copy, then society should prevent that copying so that the creator can be rewarded for their effort. This maximises creativity and productivity and boosts GDP. Musicians, inventors, artists, authors, drug companies and software developers all rely on this principle. If we didn't have copyright and patents and robots.txt then there would be no incentive to produce half of the things people want, and we would all be much worse off. Google (and any other search engine) should be subject to the same rules.
I wish my last name were the chemical symbol for a precious metal.
More likely there are n number HN readers, where n<26, who have a snarky sense of humor, and (26-n) HN readers below the age of 10.
so, what would be the advantage of being "open"?
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Your first statement is wrong.

The user provides at least two pieces of information.

1) The search query (which you attmpted to hide in Google's information)

2) A URL they retrieve from Google

Google provides one piece:

1) An ordered list

By FAR the most important piece of information is the search query.

In fact, given a choice between having the search query or an arbitrary ordered list, I'm sure Bing would value the search query the most.

Clickstream data from Google is almost certainly but one piece of clickstream data (even if you are special-cased). Just as Microsoft.com is just one page you index. Now you wouldn't say that you'd have time ranking the internet if Microsoft.com didn't exist would you? Of course not.

And I think this is where Google is going astray. It's fine to call a spade a spade, but your overreaching. Trying to argue that MS couldn't index w/o Google is simply absurd. And if Matt was trying to be diplomatic, you're certainly not being by implying that MS would have a hard time indexing w/o Google.
They probably use Wifi for in-seat concessions, but beyond that it seems a bit over-engineered.
welp...describing the Love Unicorn out loud sounds about as stupid as i'd expect.
That’s decidedly not what owning your clickstream data means. The argument is that users should be able to decide to give away their data, whether they can later access that data is irrelevant. Access to the collected clickstream data is simply not part of the agreement and as long as users are not coerced or tricked into agreeing that’ certainly unproblematic. (I can similarly agree to give away my photo collection without getting any right to access it ever again. That doesn’t mean that I don’t own my photo collection.)
Being open means that someone technically proficient could then update it themselves. Gruber is arguing that most users aren't that proficient, so being open doesn't compensate well for a manufacturer, like Motorola, failing to update their phones themselves.
Others thoughts on this as an acceptable practice? I don't think "personal branding" comes into this play / project, but it could in the future.
Direct link to the interview:
http://thisweekin.com/thisweekin-venture-capital/this-week-i...
Speaking from personal preference: I always prefer "honest" numbers like $1, $10, $12, $60, etc, rather than marketing number such as $0.99, $9.99, or even $55.59 (they seem sleazy and to an extent insulting - as if I cannot work out that $9.99 is almost identical to $10).
oh cool, the people I work for are sponsoring this. Shame I'm in the wrong country (not to mention I suck at Starcraft 2). Are there lists of the previous results, I can't find them and I poked around for a bit!
Even more that command would not give you the ability to reflash your phone.

You would still have to root it and get a rom that works on that model.
OTOH, legacy /8s may contain whole /16s that have never been used and thus can be sold off without renumbering.
There are many advantages of being "open", but being "open" is not a good substitute for having the manufacturer keep the phone up to date.
hey...we're hiring!

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Wait, what happened to the old one? What did I miss?
If you're lucky they'll be using the TechCrunch definition - whether you've made, sold for or raised billions you're a startup if you still move ad inventory!
I saw a Twitter discussion with Colin a couple weeks ago here he pointed out that Python no longer guarantees constant time for all of the basic binary operations like addition (since fixed width integers can spill over to arbitrary precision math if you overflow them, or breathe on them wrong).

Be careful.
Because the focus is on Google vs. Bing, not Google vs. Bing's users or Google's users vs. Bing or users vs. users.

>how is Microsoft's alleged behavior harming the user?

It's not harming Bing's users to provide Google's results. What's in it for Google to help Bing's users? It's not as if Google is an NPO humanitarian effort to help people find the information they seek.

>If Google's unique sales proposition has become, "we find obscure misspelled words better than those copycats at Microsoft"

Obscure misspelled words are just one thing that Bing is able to get better results on thanks to this. They also benefit from every other kind of query that a user can make on Google.
All that high-tech beer-mate technology and we can't get a good foam free auto-pour ?
The foreign friends you have are in the US because they are hard workers, they are not hard workers because they are foreign.

A lot of the foreign friends I have had I have only known online. They were not in the US but usually in some other country. I used to have really bad insomnia and when it was 3am in California, most of America was asleep. But it was midday elsewhere and there were people awake in such places and willing to talk to me. Nor did I mean to indicate they were specifically "hard workers". But they were people who understood doing things that are uncomfortable on many levels, making really big sacrifices for something one values and so on in a way that seems alien to many Americans.

I have a form of cystic fibrosis and I have given up all my furniture and I sleep on the floor. I can't tell you how many people I have met online who are desperately ill and would clearly rather die a slow torturous death than contemplate giving up their couch. I can't relate to the idea of desperately clinging to your material possessions when they are helping to kill you and they cannot relate to my choice to have almost no possessions in order to be drug free and breathe without pain. Foreigners are typically much more understanding of that choice and are much more likely to be civil to me on a CF list where many Americans openly attack me and moderators frequently side with my attackers.

Europeans often have more holidays and do more traveling than Americans but don't usually have as many material possessions -- like a TV in every room of the house -- and aren't generally as steeped in North American "affluenza". It is a different set of values.
I thought I remember a post a while back but:

What is the cost (time) of using bcrypt instead of the default?
>Google provides one piece:
1) An ordered list

That's not an accurate view of how search works. The user provides the query, but the results that are returned don't need to have anything obvious to do with the query. The terms might not be on the page, and might not be found in any data remotely associated with the page. We don't just intersect posting lists here.

Furthermore, with suggest and instant, often the query itself is provided by google.
I agree with you but I think you miss part of the argument. Yes there's a very small number of users who are that proficient but even those who are would have spend a monstrous amount of time to update the phone and make sure it works. Time built creating something that people will discard a year from now when they buy a new phone.
All that really means is that most people don't really care that much about the number buried way deep in their phone's Settings menus.
You can check to see if your profile was scraped by adding your Facebook user id (not the alias) to http://lovely-faces.com/index.php?id_face=
Exactly–seems a little speculative.

Maybe $9.99 would have converted more if they sold it as "That's less than a dollar a month!"
The shower is a great place to think about all sorts of things. The constant din of the water falling down, the warm water, and the fact that you are forced to stop for a few minutes give your subconscious mind a bit of time to organize itself and reveal what it's been pondering.
Essentially you can't. Backblaze doesn't allow you to backup NAS[1], and as the devices in question can't run the backblaze software, you can't pay for them as separate computers.

[1]: http://www.backblaze.com/help.html#nas
I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.

Others interpret this situation as Bing being unable to compete effectively except by looking over Google's shoulder. And then denying it when called out with clear-cut evidence.
It probably needs to be more than just "cool". Volunteer at a homeless shelter or do something else that has the potential to move you to tears and make you feel your problems are just kind of whiny and insignificant. Not to belittle your pain, but to give yourself a larger view -- and to expose you to strong emotion of the cleansing kind. If you're torn up to the point of distraction about being dumped by someone who said mean things to you, then you probably need to live more. There are much bigger, grittier things going on in the world. Go take a sip from the firehose of life and forget this person.

Peace. And good luck in your journey.
The problem comes when your service becomes very popular, and 100 of those 14 plates-eating guys show up.
"It could be" is not evidence.
Pretty much anything you want it to be. The higher the work factor (BCRYPT_ROUNDS in this app), the more time it takes. That's the beauty of bcrypt.
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TVRage.com, or even TV.com, are both sites which are very good at certain points. TVRage mainly: having up-to-date episode listings. TV.com mainly: relevant news to the navigated page, extensive bio/episode description archive, respectively.

Both sites have forums. Neither of which are particular active. TV.com's forum takes the lead in that area, however it seems the audience for tv-serie forums are located on fan-site forums instead.

Both sites use userbased contributions (to some extend). TV.com seems more professionally handled (also endorsed, so obviously has an advantage), whereas TVRage summaries, bios etc., seem more random and not necessarily added to complete a show's info.

Perhabs a better ranking/modding scheme could make for a TV.com/TVRage competitor? I haven't given it much thought, but taking something simple and easy to use like, say, up/down voting (which web users of today are familiar with) as an aid to moderate the info on the site could be an idea.

An advantage of TVRage is it's open-ness and (willingness to have an) API. I've used this many times, and in a web-age where people want to present stuff at their own website how they want (kind of like a new-age "embedded link" or "widget"), APIs are a great way to show that your core speciality is information, and the accuracy of this, and if someone wants to present it in a blue/yellow website so be it, as long as people know where to go to get to the source: you.
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That is exactly what I mean.

IF Google say you cannot share their data with anyone else, then you are not legally allowed to share the answer with your Dad.

IF Google say you must send a 'thank you' email to them after each query, you are legally obliged to do that.

IF Google say you cannot share their data in an automatic, 'clickstream' fashion, then you cannot legally use Microsoft's toolbar. And if you break that agreement, Microsoft cannot legally use the clickstream data you send it.
I got them wrong? Are you sure? I looked them up in an Australian dictionary, and amber was supposed to mean beer, and ace mean great.
I get that. But Motorola being incompetent doesn't mean being open is not advantageous - which is what the article seems to imply. Would you blame C++ if someone uses C++ incorrectly?

Take for example CyanogenMod - the guys involved in the project don't get paid by any of the manufacturers, but they are able to build ROMs that can run on a host of devices while providing a consistent stock-Android user experience. How is that for being open.

List of devices with nightly CM7 (Gingerbread) builds: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?type=nightly
Well, the whole thing's kinda meta, isn't it? The content isn't on either site, it's just, really, the content identifiers. Not even that, this is about a sorting of identifiers against arbitrary strings of text. Whatever distinctions we have here are gonna appear incredibly small (and petty), but it's really the bread and butter of search.

Both are map makers in a sense, providing guides to what they didn't create, but still spent plenty of effort to make that guide. In the literal, map-making world, the artifact is the printed map. In that world, the way to check for copyright infringement is to see if mapping errors are duplicated as well.

The presumption being that if the errors were copied, then so was the good data.

Short-term, the benefit was that users would get discounts on high-quality data, as they only had to pay for the efforts of the map-copy, not the original map data acquisition. Of course, then you're just waiting for the quality to drop, as there's less and less incentive to actually do the map-making work. The margins go down, and the original sources have to update their maps less often to keep their costs low enough to be competitive.

There isn't a printed page with web search; the product is the output of a continuously-running dataset & algorithm.

But, I'm gonna ask, in the web-search world, how do you define copying and how do you test for it? If you don't think there is a valid definition, please don't count yourself the same as the group who thinks that there is a valid definition and this isn't it. They're two separate things.

(I've framed the question how I see it, and I work for Google, but I'm obviously no official speaker -- I've only been here a few months, and don't work in search quality. This is (almost definitionally) a fanboi war of sorts, and I wanted to stay out. I probably should have :( )
More like the dangers of unapproved thinking.
<sarcasm>Great point! The government should source all their development work from craigslist from now on!</sarcasm>
Oh boy. That could get messy.
The article in the WSJ insinuates that it can come from either IE or the toolbar:

Stefan Weitz, director of the Bing search engine at Microsoft, said in an interview the company studies how certain users interact with Google in order to improve Bing. It does this by looking at "clickstream data," or information that users of Microsoft's Internet Explorer or the Bing search toolbar voluntarily share with the company

source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870412450457611...
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I see that Google allows you to use the crypt module, and I would wager that their Python is linked against glibc, in which case, you might be able to use sha-crypt. It's worth checking. e.g.:

def encode_password(password):
"""Return crypt() encoded password"""
# Uses glibc SHA-crypt extension via $6$
salt = b64encode(os.urandom(8)).rstrip('=')
return crypt(password, '$6$' + salt)
I didn't say the ordered list was obvious. But it is an ordered list (at least to the user -- it may not be ordered all the way down or partially so).

Fair enough point about suggest and instant. In those cases Google is adding value to the query, but I think we'd both agree that it is incrementally so. Instant generally just helps you get to the eventual query faster. Spell checking does add value, but its a +epsilon. In either case, your right, we should add this to our function.

In any case I think my point still holds. The query is the most important aspect. The browsed page, for indexing purposes is the second most important aspect. The association between the query and the URL is the least important aspect.

IOW, the least value for Bing is the search algorithm. The query and page to add to the index (as a browsed page) are the most important.
one issue to be noted here is that he was funded in the first place because they were his friends and not because they looked at the business critically...
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This is amazing, I'm geeking out over here.
Note the clarification in the article:

"‘Reports of Twitter testing a “shorten” button are untrue. As we’ve said, someday you’ll be able to shorten links in Tweets – w/o a button.’ — We believe that the sporadic access to a Shorten button on Twitter maybe due to Bit.ly testing a new ‘Shorten’ button as part of their Browser Extension. "
Did you even read the whole article? Here is the relevant quote:

It appears that this kid actually did cheat, meaning that this news story was clearly a means of discrediting Microsoft.
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>I wouldn't be surprised if Google Maps has handcrafted (or manually tuned) scraping code to extract reviews from Yelp and other major review sites, and same for Google News for the extraction of the news body from the major online news sources. How is this different?

Sorry, but Google drives traffic to their sites. That's what a search engine is supposed to do. Msft just scrapes Google's results and presents the data as its own.
> $10.00 or $2.70, it's a moot point to the issue at hand. The baker has lost something.

He has lost something of value only if he was going to sell that loaf of bread to a paying customer. How can you be sure that anyone was going to buy it? If no-one bought it before the end of the day then it would just be waste anyway, right?