skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> The government awards tax credits for everyone making less than that [...]

> [...] dividing the total US income by the number of workers [...]

So, for that $90k figure to be attainable, you need those who aren't "workers" not to get any of this money. Which means that becoming a "worker" will suddenly mean getting an extra $90k/year, whatever the job. Which means that there will almost certainly suddenly be a lot more "workers". Which means you can't manage $90k/year after all.

Also: Your system relies on taking away a great deal of money from rich people in order to give it to a larger number of people who would otherwise be much less well off. I have no problem at all with this as a general approach, but the more you do it the harder those rich people are going to try to avoid paying; and rich people can generally afford a lot of expert assistance with not paying, arrange for a great deal of lobbying to get the rules changed, etc. -- which means that you probably can't get nearly as much money out of them as just looking at their salaries suggests. For instance, duh, suppose that every employer that currently pays anyone $(90k+x)/year decides to pay them, say, $(90k+0.1x)/year. Suddenly 90% of that tax revenue has gone. Whoops, everyone else's annual salary is now $9k/year.

Also: as others have pointed out, it is ... not obvious ... that being given a low number in some official government ranking would be as strong a motivator as actually getting rich. Yes, one reason why people want to get rich is because wealth brings high status. But there is some reason to think that they also want to get rich because wealth brings large houses, good food, nice holidays, fast cars, and all the other stuff that one can buy if one has enough money.
You defend Al Jazeera's (with other muslim media) airing of antisemitic content -- because Fox News is garbage?

I can't see any other way how criticism of Fox can be relevant to what I wrote. And your argument's logic was worthy of Fox.

Edit: I had a joke (HUMOR PARENTHESIS!) in a comment that "much interesting information was missing". Then I quoted a prayer for genocide of people of another religion from Al Jazeera. I DID NOT A CLAIM THAT THERE IS NO ANTI SEMITISM IN US MEDIA (hardly organized racism at least, it is taboo in the western world). I might also add -- you understood that.

Edit 2: Anyway, it was really funny that you got up voted so much for that -- and I've been down voted in two threads for showing that Al J has extreme racist content...
As long as immaturity and disrespect are weeded out, I think we'll be fine. Just remember the "flag" option to report such comments.
You could maybe reward the wealthy in the same way people currently reward philanthropists -- offer to name things for them.
Just let them flag reports so they are hidden by default, rather than deleting them. Then everyone can watch everyone else, UK activists are used to that now: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jan/22/undercover-police-c...
How's the durability?
I wonder if we're headed towards a hereditary aristocracy as well, because of assortative mating. People tend to marry others in the same social class; rich marry rich, smart marry smart, and highly-educated marry highly-educated. And then they tend to pass on those advantages to their children. It doesn't take all that many generations before that becomes entrenched and it becomes impossible to jump from one class to another.
Also lots of Transmission/libTorrent clients.
The government only helps the rich to the degree that it provides courts, police, and military. Beyond that, it's looting them.
Science isn't objective as such. It's testable.

That is the defining factor between religion and science.
>>Al Jazeera is one of the best news sources I know of

Hrm, got any references for that?

I just found this and posted on another thread:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism#Yusuf_al...

In a sermon, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on January 9, 2009 [...] "Oh Allah, take your enemies, the enemies of Islam. Oh Allah, take the Jews, the treacherous aggressors. Oh Allah, take this profligate, cunning, arrogant band of people. [...] Oh Allah, take this oppressive, Jewish, Zionist band of people. Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one."

Edit: I realize that racist hate mongering and asking ghod for genocide is removed in the English versions... But can any sane person claim that those showing such content on TV is "one of the best news sources"?
Previously:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=170154 [1012 days ago, 23 comments]

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1323735 [262 days ago, no comments]

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=777758 [526 days ago, no comments]

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10815 [1391 days ago, 5 comments]

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1515456 [199 days ago, no comments]

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1035207 [388 days ago, 1 comment]
Facebook investor DST comes with ties to Alisher Usmanov & the Kremlin
where did I sound like I was defending Al Jazeera's antisemitism?

You claimed that US airwaves lack antisemitism and I refuted your claim.
In my experience for a spouse+me plan, I'd say it was closer to 4-5x what I was paying while employed (cobra, that is).
Spotlight Again Falls on Web Tools and Change
Agreed. The whole industry bailout was a huge punishment to BB&T, which otherwise probably would have profited tremendously from taking over much of the business of the failed banks.
The employer is paying half of it.
That seems kind of odd to me, here in Hawaii they split the school districts up on each island (the island I'm on has 9). The school I would normally have to attend is terrible, but over here you can simply apply for an exemption, which they almost always grant, and go to almost any school on the island. Are you not allowed to do that in states such as New Jersey?
Sounds like PG's talk was a great way to fish around for someone to offer YC companies an offer like this. I wonder sometimes how much his "predictions" are aimed at bringing favorable conditions into being.
Kind of useless without a followup
all of these things could be simplified and improved if the state were not such a behemoth

I'm skeptical of that. And since most states are in the same financial mess as CA, only on smaller scales, the argument that splitting the state up will somehow improve things seems weak.
Also more people seem to vote based on whether they agree with something rather than whether it adds to the conversation.
I believe a lot of pro rata rights have minimums (i.e. you have to have at least 500,000 shares) to have that right. most series a term sheets that I've seen have set the minimums above any threshold that an angel would meet
Really?

You think £1.30 to get a bus as far as you like is expensive? and £4 to get as many buses as you like in a day is expensive?
Nothing stops the middle class from buying gold instead of keeping their money in a cash account. Once you change the system the people will adapt.
CNN isn't generated by an algorithm?

it's called Proprietary Relevant News Generating algorithm also abbreviated as PRNG.
Correct, except I would say "in the lane" rather than "on the road". Congestion would limit the speed naturally, but existing regulations such as 'slower vehicles stay in right lane' etc would actually have to be enforced for this to work.
I'm surprised the atlantic fell for this story.
Wonderful: an HN discussion about content farms has its very own micro-scraper-site.
Much more interesting to watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBvuirDPHKA
Agree. Lying = fraud = uncool.
Why is this being referred to so constantly as censorship?

Censorship is preventing someone else from speaking. Suggested keywords are Google's speech to us. Unlike search index content, Google is responsible for their contents and will beheld accountable when they are inappropriate. The only party being censored by filtering keywords is Google.

If you really, really, want to call this censorship then you have to also apply a "safe-harbor" type principle to it where you remove responsibility from Google for what the suggestions contain. I don't think anybody suggests that would be a good idea. And I bet the same crowd bleating censorship would be up in arms about finding inappropriate terms suggested if Google didn't do this.
We weren't expecting anyone to make an offer like this. Even if we'd had this idea ourselves, which we didn't, we would never have believed anyone would actually be ballsy and decisive enough to do it.
Not true. Your pension adjust for OFFICIAL inflation, I invite you to make a simple shopping cart on Excel with your most important expenses and compare with official figures. Official's is allays less(all govs massage the numbers as there is so much money at stake).
Eating a healthy diet is unquestionably better than eating a cereal-and-ramen diet. Being able to afford a better diet does lessen human suffering, even if that person isn't a starving child in Sudan. Being bummed out that someone's life is better, simply because it doesn't make for a good story, is shitty.

If Mr. Scoble wants a story of struggle and sacrifice, he can kindly live it himself.
Turnabout is fair play, but roughly how many words do you think this story and silly meta-analysis deserve?

I could throw-up a few paragraphs on my wordpress, but I'd rather work on some code. What do you think?
You have a point; but that is more editorial (well, live "opinion") than the news side. I don't think such an incident is representative of a general trend at Al Jazeera.

But the media all over the world has problems with anti-Semitism; just because they don't advocate death does not make it any better :)
Italy's population is over 50% more than California's.
> By what science is this the case?

Obviously, an old guy in a very old rusty driving at 5 mph over the limit is more dangerous than a young professional nascar pilot, running a brand new porsche at the same speed.

However this is a bout equality versus equity. Equity means : you pay fines proportionally to what you earn; on the other hand you could then discuss the fact that different drivers and different vehicles may be treated differently (for instance, the speed limit is the speed at which your vehicle comes to full stop in 2.5 seconds). equality means everybody is treated the same way. The current system tends to equality, but is not equitable.
Great point. It looks like the previous-quarter qualification is more complex than I thought.

I was on COBRA anyway when I started and stuck with Subchapter C so I didn't encounter these issues.

Definitely a strong argument for early incorporation if you can swing it.
There's an even smaller minority of us who know where Kurdistan is, think Israel is usually bad juju, and recognize that 'Muslims' are not a single entity.
Python's standard library includes a lot of functionality that only really makes sense on top of an operating system, e.g., filesystem operations, inter-process communication. By the time you implement that kind of thing, plus drivers to communicate with the peripherals on your embedded platform, plus a TCP/IP stack, you have an operating system. Maybe you have a small RTOS instead of Linux per se, but that's a different question than 'bare metal' (and I dare say more embedded systems are running with at least an RTOS than without).
I've had the website on for two days straight, it has hardly even staggered. The coverage is amazing.
just thought i'd note (since you're new-ish) that you're getting downvoted because you stated an opinion without backing it up with any information. why doesn't it make sense to you? it makes sense to others.
Just when I thought I was fed up with the Zuck, he goes and does something like this.
As a community grows in size it becomes more diverse. As it becomes more diverse it becomes a better representative of society in general. As a result websites that target a niche audience tend to shift to websites that target popular culture as they grow. HN is technology and startup oriented and is populated by many professionals in those fields. A popular HN will be populated by people who want broader topics and who are not experts in any of them. And less disciplined individuals tend to abuse the moderation system until it becomes nothing more than the voting system of a popularity contest. Reddit, for example, was a great place for discussing interesting topics a few years ago. Today it is a website for memes. And the technology topics are moderated not according to how interesting the submissions might be but according to how cool and popular they are. The eternal September is not a new phenomenon. And this isn't limited to websites. It happens to TV stations too. SciFi has wrestling, History has ancient aliens, and MTV stopped playing music videos a long time ago.
I wanted to give it a try, but you need enabled Billing to use at least the blobserver on Appengine.
Amateur angel investors aren't worried about the absolute amount of money so much as the terms. If this becomes the new normal then other angels will be forced to emulate it.
Possibly a consequence of there being more people. I don't generally think to myself "this needs exactly 5 karma points", I think "I'm going to upvote this."

A more accurate comparison would be the percentage of people that read the article that upvoted it, and even that wouldn't be a perfect comparison.
Forcing people to register just so they know who is reading just shows how many Barney Rubbles are reading the NYT online.
Yes but California is an example of very rich state per number of inhabitants of a vast county like US. For instance in Italy the distribution of richness is also very unevenly distributed, with a few of the north regions accounting for a vast amount of the whole richness. In this regions probably the richness per inhabitant is comparable to the one of California, or possibly even more.

For instance the region of Lombardia alone has 248,119 million euros GDP, that is 25,251 per inhabitant.
I'm really surprised to hear that he sees gold outperforming for the next five years. With so much appreciation in the last two-three years I wouldn't have thought it was a hedge against anything.
Theoretically yes but usually they target distributors in preference to users. It's easier to get a verdict or judgment against the distributor because it avoids the question of "what is a copy" and how that applies to the digital space and also because people are less sympathetic to distributors. The thing with P2P applications is that everyone is also automatically a distributor.
DST straddles Silicon Valley and Wall St
I'm sure it's a consequence of having more people. That's what's interesting: it's a visible indicator of the increased population around here.
It sounds like what he's saying is with a guaranteed $150k for every YC company, it's almost like Paul has the power to pick and choose which companies will get to succeed.

That is of course not the case, funding doesn't define success, but I gather that was his thought.

The silly thing of course is, if Milner was making the calls, nobody would have a problem with it.
AGAIN: So you really trust people that (at an absolute minimum) have no moral problems with accepting/showing racist hatred and calls for genocide!

That was almost as sad and fun, as the fact that I'm getting down voted fast for posting quotes about Al Jazeera and showing what they go for.

Edit: I should also note that you lack references for your claim?
Meet Mr. Haas, he makes eyes
Children should be assigned to schools

If you mean by their parents, then yes. If you mean by our nanny overlords in their never ending quest to maximize the teachers unions' deathgrip on the system, then no thanks.

I'm currently paying for every kid, regardless of income, to go to a public school, plus more tuition for my own kids to go to a real school where they will actually learn something.

I'd much prefer a system where I pay for my kids, you pay for your kids, and we all chip in for the poor kids. In all cases, the parents need to be the ones choosing the schools. The "incentive to make all schools nice" will only happen when parents can move their money to the school of their choice.
What's wrong with rise in net worth over a year?
The situation could have been handled in a more compassionate way than jail. How many wealthy white collar criminals get away with far more fraud (and for strictly selfish reasons to boot) and never see the inside of jail cell?

Given the HUGE disparity between the have and the have-not school districts, one can appreciate the mother's point of view.
One could probably make a case that there's a large subset of the US population that would distrust CNN, MSNBC, and/or Fox.
As I was not there when all this happened, I decided to investigate and find out more about what it was like back then. I was surprised to find that the group of people who truly affected HN the most after this article was the old-timers and not the new "digg-like users"[1]. Users reacted as if this was the end of HN and immediately grouped all new users into one that many despised. If you want, you can look for yourself: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=133440

The new users probably did not create as much trouble as people had thought they would. Rather, the older users created the high tensions between the two groups. This all led to excessive discussions that has been prolonged for years. Unfortunately, this article has inspired many people to continue doing so (my bad!). All of this small-talk is what's really been hurting HN.

For those that want to compare HN before and after TechCrunch's article, here is what the homepage looked like:

Before: http://web.archive.org/web/20080308054301/http://news.ycombi...

After: http://web.archive.org/web/20080312014516/http://news.ycombi...

A lot of people here on HN (pg included) agree that the site quality has gone down a little over the past few years. As this is probably the result of the number of users and we know that TechCrunch has contributed to that number, we can safely say that the two are somewhat correlated. However, the heated discussions and behavior that has come as a result are probably more worrisome than the new users themselves. Just something to think about.

[1] - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=133446
Kinect Princess Leia hologram in realtime
http://camlistore.org/docs/contributing

Write code. We have Go, Java, JavaScript, Python, Perl in the repo. Multiple implementations are the goal.
Not quite. New elements are inserted at the end of the regular line, but at the head of the fast line. When you first enter the regular line, this doesn't matter, because everybody (fast line or regular line) would've gotten there before you in the regular line. However, every person that arrives in the fast line after you take your place in the regular line goes before you, yet would've gone after you if the fast line didn't exist.

Total waiting time is the same, but that's not the stat you care about. Your waiting time, as someone in the regular line, is. And that's increased by each person that arrives in the fast line while you are waiting. Their short waiting times are compensated by your long waiting times.
Did I say I didn't register? No.

All I said was that it requires a login. As such, my intent was to provide information. Personally, I don't much care.

I choose to login to various places on a case-by-case basis. Usually I simply don't bother, purely because it's more time than I care about, and I have other things to do, other things to read. In this case I put the link to one side to consider later, if I have time.
Ah, you've made a snap judgement there.

See, you have one incident - it's a bad one, sure, but definitely not representative of the channel. And, as it is, I accept their explanation for it (which appears to be; they were airing a sermon from a slightly more hard line cleric, and he made extreme comments. Turning that into not having moral problems accepting... etc. is something of a leap.

And I don't think you could prove/show this is systemic problem at the channel. (We occasionally have racist/nasty comments made on UK media, and lots of fuss about it, that doesn't make the channel racist!)

You should always generally distrust your media source as a matter of course.

I'm not going to argue this with you because it looks like you have an axe to grind, and this really isn't the place. But put AJ next to a lot of US media and I find them more neutral and informative :) Anti-Semitism is a huge problem in a wide portion of media (as I mentioned), it is one of the problems that means we have to take what they say with caution in some matters, but from my observation (and barring a few slips) AJ has a better track record than, says, FOX.

> I should also note that you lack references for your claim?

In case it is not obvious... this is my opinion... sheesh. :)
Ironically, solipsist, the user who posted this, has an account less than a month old with 2120 karma. Based on my casual observation of the new stories page over the last month this user submits a lot of stuff. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that. But submitting a lot of stories is a good way to get lots of karma quickly, since stories are voted up more highly and it takes almost no time to do.

I agree that the downvote karma threshold has been instrumental in maintaining the quality of discussion here on HN, but it seems like it's too easy to get around by submitting lots of stories. And that drastically reduces the socialization period.
Here's another page that many may not know about:

Change Password (http://news.ycombinator.com/changepw)
I think it is also important to point out that this funding change doesn't prevent these kinds of situations (and related stories) from happening anyway; people will continue forming startups without funding. Also in Airbnb's case, their famous living off of extra Cap'n McCain's cereal started prior to YC funding.
Have you ever worked in large scale applications with little to no browser refresh?
HN is no more or less pretty than Reddit, and the general feeling around here is that Reddit's Eternal September happened sometime in the last year or two.

HN won't last forever. Reddit was great when it started, then they achieved the growth they were looking for and it got diluted a bit. PG started what would become HN, and the early adopters migrated. As reddit becomes less useful for tech and programming news, or as a way to find cool new sites, more people will migrate over here. Then some people will get pissed at the requisite drop in quality, and will start a new place.

All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
That's fine, you'd get 50% of the tax credit.
document.ready fires before window.load
Even without the additional 150k available, if the start up was successful enough after the 20k of YC funding (like it was previously), they would be able to find funding elsewhere.
AR.Drone seems also quite hackable, there is even an open source controller client for Maemo&MeeGo:

http://mardrone.garage.maemo.org/
Why I Defriend The Old Fashioned Way
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703555804576102433063064702.html?mod=WSJ_topics_obama
What Brett said. Also, as the project matures we will provide binaries and downloads but for now the barrier to entry is probably convenient.

Go isn't the project's choice. It's my personal choice as I continue to love the language. The project encourages all languages.
You could use the local version.
Related story here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2155845

I prefer the related story - it links directly to the project page for said awesome video. It skips the scatterbrained TC commentary and adds a few details, such as the mechanism (no spoiler here..) for igniting the fireworks!

Too bad much of the interesting discussion is already in this news item.
Its here: http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/h/himanen-hacker.html