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Trying to figure out what your point here was. I think you might be sarcastically suggesting that what I called "new", isn't "new"? If you are, then you've taken it out of context; I can try something new, without it being a brand new idea that nobody has done before. So can this company. That's what I was saying.

I have a full time job, and I do contract work on the side. I don't employ people. So I am one of those people who might have been "exploited". I didn't take part in this particular competition, but I'm glad for all opportunities, and I don't need protecting from them.
Please could we have this discussion without the ad hominem?
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still waiting for the android app, but still love the website.
> Even so, it may have affected resource decisions. At the organizational level, did the specter of losing tens of millions in ad revenue had something to do with why Google waited so long to start to address the problem?

At the organizational level, Google is essentially chaos. In search quality in particular, once you've demonstrated that you can do useful stuff on your own, you're pretty much free to work on whatever you think is important. I don't think there's even a mechanism for shifting priorities like that.

We've been working on this issue for a long time, and made some progress. These efforts started long before the recent spat of news articles. I've personally been working on it for over a year. The central issue is that it's very difficult to make changes that sacrifice "on-topic-ness" for "good-ness" that don't make the results in general worse. You can expect some big changes here very shortly though.
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He wrote it before OS X was released.
Why isn't the lake frozen solid?
He is not making the decision. Uncontacted tribes are extremely aware of the western culture outside their area. Many tribes choose not to make contact, and when contact is forced, they might even kill the enemies who refuse to leave them alone.

There are few-to-none cases of tribes for whom forced contact with westerners* has been beneficial to them.

* If you don't like the term westerner, feel free to insert or state your own preferred term and move on rather than argue the term in an attempt to change the topic.
What I would like is tracking information that can estimate a better window of delivery.

For example, I am currently receiving a TV from UPS. I have to be at home to sign it. But, I have work. I'm not going to take an entire day off. But, the delivery window is an entire day. Surely, the trucks have some sort of route and surely the trucks should have some sort of GPS. I don't need to know exactly where it's at, but c'mon at LEAST a 2 hour ballpark.
Honestly - I think our politics are so far removed, that talking about this sanely would involve a hours of deprogramming on either of our parts.

My biggest problem with your point of view is that you're claiming superiority for our society, when the quality of a culture can't easily be measured.

It's equivalent of saying 'mine is the best, because it's mine'. I can't agree with it.
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What are you doing about the non-hypothetical slavery in the US right now?
They have two eyes with slightly different perspectives, and there's also the atmosphere to color blue things that are far away, so they have some idea of how far is it.

Knowing how far and how big it looks like, you can estimate the real size.

It's part of how our eye-brain interface works.
Now are you sure our way of life is better? That is a rather self centered thing to say.

How do you think they would do in Brazilian society with no property no education and no ability to speak the language? How much do you know about the lives of the poorest Brazilians and Peruvians? Do you think they get much modern medicine? These people would of course be poorer than the poorest brazilians and peruvians because even they (i) can speak the language and (ii) know something about the society they live in.
I've seen a few people from UT (Austin) post here, but I do not know them. Hit me up (hassaanmarkhiani@gmail.com).
> warfare was less painful for all involved

Does that book or other sources you have give a rough idea of how rare/common death by warfare/violence is in this type of society?
Maybe the writer was actually quoting, and the speaker felt the need to say "Celsius" because they couldn't tell whether they were speaking to an American. (Satellite phones probably have low sound quality, right?)
> The responsible thing to do there is to just say no.

Or just go to a college that doesn't charge $200k in fees?
This is very similar to http://www.messageunicorn.com
Maybe some group of loggers left it a while ago? There's a chance it's only indirect contact.

[EDIT: or maybe inter-tribal trade, as someone else mentioned]
Very typical left wing way of thinking? I'm staying out of this slugfest because there's no way anybody will end up edified by it - but in what possible way can you characterize philosophical intolerance as an exclusively left-wing trait? That's just weird.
I am not programmed with these views. I grew up in an environment heavily leaning the other way. Then I rethought things on my own initiative.

I am open to discussion including lengthy discussion.

HN is not a suitable place for that. Why don't we talk here:

http://groups.google.com/group/rational-politics-list/

You can also read some of my philosophy if you like (if you think I am programmed by someone, please let me know who I've copied here! :) http://fallibleideas.com/
My biggest problem is I work alone, am undisciplined, and do not work with mature software. So my commits are all over the place. If I've already started to stage one commit how can I stage a different commit without losing my current progress?

I actually like git but I haven't found a tutorial that demonstrates a workflow for non-ideal conditions.
Five applicants for every job is doesn't sound right, I believe that unemployed for every job opening is closer to the truth.

My son's cubmaster was laid off from his surveying job in 2009 and is driving a dump truck - a skill he learned in the Air Force. He applied for a city job, and was one of seven selected for face to face interviews. There were 1200 total applications from across the country.
I'd want to be left alone - give one example of colonialism that worked out well for indigenous people, and I'll maybe change my mind.
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Nice find. That's an excellent reason, almost zero contamination that way.

So why didn't the article mention it? If anything, they go backwards: "But until we learn how to get into the system cleanly that's an issue"
I like this idea! I could use it just about every day. How will you monetize it?
While I agree totally with the points you've made, I don't know how to balance that against the nearly unavoidable side effect that contacting them may very likely end up killing most of them from diseases to which they have no resistance.
Anything that could turn the pile of business cards and scribbled notes I usually get from tradeshows into something useful in terms of social media would be a huge win.
Help is exactly what I would want from advanced alien visitors. I don't want them to respect my culture just because it is mine; I want something better for myself, not cultural relativism.

I wish it were so simple. Culture is really not easy to transmit. Transmitting some small piece of it in isolation very often only causes problems without improving anything at all. It often destroys what was there without replacing it with anything viable. Look at the really high rates of diabetes and other issues in so many tribal groups around the world. Look at the general quality of life contact has brought them. I'm really not impressed with the track record so far of "helping" such peoples.

EDIT: Here is an article (called "Diseases of Affluence") which talks about the high levels of diabetes and such that I found through HN not terribly long ago. Really fascinating piece in its own right.

http://maisonneuve.org/pressroom/article/2010/nov/15/the-dis...
http://www.mondiary.com

Don't you want to record and track what's happening in your life and be able to reflect upon it? Won't it be nice to have a timeline of your life and compare how a day was to another? Would it be nice if you could have one place to put together the links to your daughter's b'day pics, videos, write your own feelings, and then just share it with family? Or maybe you want to share a diary anonymously with other users and see what they think about it.

This is exactly what MonDiary lets you do. It's journaling with a twist.

For everything else that can't go in your diary we also give you an easy to use no frill online notepad and a to-do list.

Please try it out at http://www.mondiary.com.
Some uncontacted people violently resist outside contact: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese_people
I know, I know, I know. Lots of requests for this so I'm looking into it right now!
Negative 40 Kelvin has no meaning ;)
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"Our way of life is better."

The fact that this has so many upvotes /really/ lowers my high opinion of the HN readership.
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So reporters should just stay in their hotels? That's where the real story is taking place, not on the streets?
Indiana University? I know a couple of you are on here.
No need to be condescending. I prefixed my post with "I think" because I was thought, but wasn't sure, that you were implying causation. Specifically, you used the word "if", whereas other wordings would have been more neutral.
See if you can cache pages that don't change too often. If you don't have the time to setup Varnish or similar at least try to cache to /tmp/

Feel free to contact me (email in profile) if you need guidance or setup help
Sam the Bellhop is a true classic, and I love it. But I'm sorry, it doesn't really belong on Hacker News.

Oh and by the way, it's customary to place the word [video] if you're linking to a video, so people who open multiple tabs don't have to hunt for the one that's making noise.
Yes. And not every kind of discrimination or restriction is wrong.
We must not contact them, unless they want to contact us. We cannot be certain of the impact of our presence to their minds. Just as we can't be certain (no, we can't) of the impact of an alien presence in our planet.
The author mentions service-oriented designs as means to improving iteration time. However, it's also a great way to enable parallel development and incremental rollout, as well as reduce code complexity. I'd really like to see more work go into making services more easily. Right now, it's simply too difficult to set up new services. Each one needs it's own version control, staging/production servers, etc. etc. I'd love to see something to help spin up everything you'd need for a new service instantly.
The problem is that once we make contact with them, 50% will die due to disease. The rest will lead miserable dependent lives, and probably turn to alcoholism. I have seen this first hand with the Jarawa people of the Andaman Islands, and anecdotally with many other tribals.

History repeats itself.
Our life expectancy and education is literally thousands of years ahead of anything they have. You can argue about violence, capitalism and religion, and I'd agree, but parts of our culture are better then theirs in easily measurable ways.
how could you even say that, do you even know what their way of life is?
It's your ludicrous conflation of the OP's genuine concern for the material welfare of these people with "ethnic cleansing" that's abhorrent.
I have created an updated version using SVG. Still not beautiful, but at least a little better.
Some members of the tribe drive them off with weapons.

Others are children who do not get to make a choice until AFTER they have been indoctrinated with the tribe's values.

We see the same problem in the Muslim world. In some countries, Muslim women are treated as property and not allowed outside without a chaperone. How can they make a free choice to join the West when their male guardians say "no" for them?
If Google did the same thing with their toolbar, then Microsoft should be able to catch Google the same way Google caught Microsoft. Thus far they haven't although I am sure they are trying.
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I have an idea for a website but it is predicated on the use of celebrity photographs. From what I've seen online it isn't legal to do such things. So my question is if anyone knows a way to purchase a large database of photographs. I'm certainly willing to pay(depending on how much it would cost) Thanks
Many people also die with debt. I suspect less than 50% of people ever get back to zero after gaining significant amounts of debt.
You missed part of the argument:

"But it’s very unlikely it figured this out from Google, given that for the misspelling, Google doesn’t auto-correct the word nor provide the same answer."

Bing's nr 1 result is not in Google's results at all.
I refer to the age old phenomenon accompanying almost every occasion of conflict and turmoil, where hostile parties develop a... how to put it... instinctive form of xenophobia and heightened suspicion towards strangers. It's a known fact that foreign tourists and reporters are statistically proven to be popular targets of sporadic acts of violence in countries suffering domestic discord.

If you're accusing me of blaming the Egyptian people per se as being generally racist then you're off on a limb. That wasn't what I was trying to allude.
Thanks! Haven't figured out the monetization side yet (though we have a few ideas we'll be testing soon) - we're super focused on solving our users pain first. :)
Debit cards also give cash back.
As an Australian, seeing what has happened to our Aboriginal people partly as a result of our interference, and partly also just because of the incompatible nature of our societies and cultures, I'd be very concerned about how such change would affect these people.

This experience is repeated among indigenous peoples the world over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians#Contempo...
Going from monolithic app to SOA does introduce some complexity:

Services complicate the debugging process. Also, parallel development means more co-ordination overhead. Deployments become a little trickier -- with a monolithic app, you can easily roll out one version while the other version is removed from the load balancers. With services, you start getting into supporting different versions of services (through forwards or backwards compatibility) or requiring downtime.
Get it on Lanyrd.com please! :-) TYVM
Did anyone else notice how healthy they looked?
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I would assume because its very well insulated from above and warmed by the earth's core from below, but I'm not a geologist.
And don't forget the Antarctic mountain range they discovered in 2008 (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16659-alpine-mountain-...) that exactly fits the description to the mountains of madness Lovecraft described so vividly. But it won't be the Eldritch Horror coming out of the lake, it'll be a Shoggoth (or God forbid, a multitude).

These driven scientists never, never listen!
For all you know, these people may be the happiest in the entire world. Who are we to take that from them?
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Noo, you let out the super secret location!
Missing option: Startup acquired, golden handcuffs.
Yes, but it's hard to judge things that you have no reference frame for.

There's another story about the Grand Canyon. Apparently the first Spaniards to reach it estimated it to be a couple hundred feet deep, and thought the part of the Colorado that they could see was about six feet across. It was a mile down and 200 feet across, but they had no concept of a canyon that big.
I like the concept, but one feature that would make this rock is audio recording.

When I'm in class, writing away on notes, I have a hard time listen and writing at the same time. Let me scribble away while the pad records in tandem. That would be neat.
Yeah, I was aware of the peculiarities of this particular case (the tribe not wanting contact) and chose to ignore them in order to make the larger point.

Science fiction is great. It lets us look at some of these issues without (perhaps) so much emotional heat.

So let's assume that in the 1950s, aliens contacted the president of the United States -- a theme which recurs over and over again in sci-fi. The president decided that we were too primitive and paranoid to handle contact with a galactic civilization, so he told them to leave us alone.

What I'm saying is that whatever the nature of the leader, whether they are the president, or prime minister, or head of NATO, or head of the UN, or whoever else, it doesn't matter. They don't have the moral authority to be making decisions like that for me. No part of the social contract allows leaders to make decisions of such huge import and keep them secret.

So while I support any individual's right to be left alone and live however they like, I do not support people who are presumed leaders keeping information of that magnitude from others.

Just to speculate a bit, if you're the chief of a tribe, or part of the power structure, it probably sounds pretty good to be left alone. After all, who wants change? However if you're a mother who just watched her 5-year-old kid die from something that was easily prevented? You might have different ideas. Keeping the mother uniformed so that you can continue exercising your power over her is immoral and I do not support it.

As you point out, in the real world, these kinds of things are murky at best, with lots of little conditions and details you want to consider. All I'm saying is that it's not acceptable to simply throw your hands up and give up. From what little I know, I think the idea of repeated gentle contact -- as much as it can be done without annoying them too much -- is probably the wisest course of action. This would allow us to be sure we have made a reasonable and polite effort to inform them of the outside world, as well as trying to catch the newer members of the tribe as they are born and grow up. After all, even if you're left alone, it is reasonable to expect that you still have some kind of relationship to your neighbors.
Okay, it's an extreme example .. but it definitely exists on the same side of the scale.

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Look at what happened to Australian Aboriginals - the settlers who separated kids from their families had the best of intentions - but they also had a sense of superiority which gave them an utter contempt for the culture of the children in question.

There are some parallels between those settlers and the OP's statement:

"There is nothing good or enviable about uncivilized lifestyles to preserve; any actions that maintain them in that lifestyle are ensuring they literally die young, mostly of preventable causes."

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generation
I still can't grasp where the market is to buy a tablet on a data plan contract.

The problem seems that these hardware-only vendors are trying to extract profit from only their hardware investment instead of either charging a higher price for quality hardware or investing in and charging for a quality app store / user experience.

It would be nice if google set an "experience" tier, where if hardware vendors followed a high standard of hardware quality / display specs they could share some of google's advertising/android market profits.
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Your comment reminded me of this SNL skit: http://www.hulu.com/watch/1389/saturday-night-live-dont-buy-...
Out of all the weather sites, I still prefer the layout of the National Weather Service's forecast pages.

Example: http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=41.893077299131...
Then first, you must comprehend yourself how all of these "improvements" would impact their society and minds. And then, you have to teach them enough so they can understand all of those facts you just learned, so they can take an INFORMED decision. That alone would make you get in contact with them, show them things they have never seen before, change their culture in unimaginable ways.

There's no "interface" here to which you can give them access, and expect that if they choose not to use it, their lives would remain as they were.

If you touch it, you change it. You don't know how. Perhaps you will destroy it and will never know what of all those things you showed/gave them did it.
I'm guessing Dmitry Sklyarov or David Carruthers might say the same thing about American companies.
Its not just you. Weirds me out, too. Maybe its only those of us old enough to remember the original, in which case we might be the wrong demographic.
In Java, use ConcurrentHashMap.

If you're particularly interested in pushing this to the edge, check out Cliff Click's non-block hash map.
The cultural contamination taboo is pretty clearly not so "universally felt", though. You must contaminate (significantly) to discover their decision so you can respect it, or you must prevent all contamination, when you could be improving their lives (note: could be. To disagree is to state our/your culture / technology is in every way deficient compared to theirs, the "noble savage" viewpoint).

Whether it's a majority opinion or not, it's hard to say. I encounter both sides very regularly, while you apparently don't. Such is life.

As to the holocaust deniers, yes, I would. Because I disagree with them, and because it's essentially an intentionally-ignorant standpoint that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

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But as to contaminate-or-not, I do prefer contamination so they can choose. Otherwise, it seems to me we're treating them like animals in a zoo, incapable of choosing intelligently for themselves. It also implies our culture is just so virulent that any who come in contact with it are sure to lose their way, join us heathens, and destroy their culture; again, insulting their intelligence and based on what's essentially a superiority complex.

For myself, I'll always choose contamination over being walled off. Others will disagree. But until we're capable of knowing they disagree, we either force some contamination to find out or we force them behind walls, taking away their choice. I find walls to be more offensive to sentients as a whole.
and... did it work?
To me, having lots of runway is just common sense.

I've been doing the whole startup thing for a year, and I've already started and abandoned several projects, at various stages. Luckily, I have savings that can keep me going for a lot longer, if I need it.
I'm sure you could just use your phone for that.
They are risking having their kids grow up with less access to resources in order to give those same kids one of the primary benefits of access to resources. If they did the research, understood the consequences, and were sincere about their reasons, it is the very epitome of a calculated risk.

It's not like the potential downside is living in the car. The potential downside is maybe being forced to rent in a worse area, and having trouble buying things on credit for a while.
It's also probably due to being under high pressure; the melting point of a substance is dependent on the pressure it is under.
Thanks for the offer of help - I think I've mitigated the worse with a minor functional change now. If it gets nasty again I'll definitely be in touch :)
I should dust off my NodeRed project from last year. It provided a neat pubsub system for node.js and redis.
After an unsuccessful attempt to login, say "Sorry, that login information didn't work."

If someone wants to reset their password, after they enter their email address say "Thanks. If that email address is in our database we will send a reset link."
Good idea, thanks. I realized that almost immediately after posting this :)