skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>How is that not "move fast and break things"?

Here's an example of charter school: A school that runs their curriculum partially in a foreign language (e.g. French for social sciences, but math in English) so that children pick up a second language while doing regular studies. Is that an example of "move fast and break things"? Implementing something like this would be very hard in a public system. The inertia is too great. That's just one example of a charter/voucher school being responsive to local needs in a way that would be hard for the largely public system (and I'm not saying charters/voucher replace the public system).

What you did was purposely apply a term from programming and startups to my argument for charters and voucher schools. It doesn't apply. Education is never going to be run like a startup with a 20-something founder. EVER. No parent will let a school 'break' their kids' education. But within those constraints, you can try things a little differently to tailor how and what you teach.

>I specifically said children with disabilities. I think it says a lot about you that you're trying to re-frame that as kids with behavioral issue

No. It was an example that shows the public system is also struggling with kids with disablities (in this case, kids with behavioural issues). But that wasn't the salient point. Ignore it. The primary point was just above it: "We both know that's not why you take issue with school choice because these kinds of issues can be easily adjusted through policy changes - but you're not proposing policy changes. You want to completely get rid of the entire thing."
Ctrl-[ - I hated no escape key, but my fingers no longer look for that physical key, even on keyboards that have it. Ctrl-[ is always there, and it is less of a stretch. I've gotten un-used to pressing a real esc key (I hate the touch-bar esc).
What do you actually use the F keys for? I haven't used them in so long that I only remember what F2 and F5 did.
The first buyer purchases sentimentality

The second purchases metal [with a % chance of being re-sold again as sentimentality]
Wouldn't normal function keys work pretty much just as well?
yeah I would be annoyed also. I knew that my late 2013 has his issues after hard usage (battery swelled, etc) so I need one really soon, but I knew that the 2019/2020 will have a new model so I waited exactly for that.
> I mean if the touchbar was above the function keys it would be an added bonus, but removing function keys for "professionals" is like telling a pianist that he now has to play on a touch-keyboard with no tangents.

Kills me everytime. The MBP I had at my last job had a trackpad bigger than my forehead, there's real estate for both. Seriously Apple why the heck not?
Haha, didn't read the post, the title alone gave me enough laughs.
> Inverted-T arrow keys! A millimeter of key travel!

Which is still quite poor - Thinkpads offer between 1.3 to 1.9mm of travel depending on the model. It is surprising that a $1Trillion computer hardware company cannot design the best keyboard in the world while tiny Lenovo seems to have done much better.

Why would a "pro" user care more thinness and form than the usability of the primary input mechanism?

Add: It's not merely the travel. Lenovo keyboards are so slightly concave which offer perceivably better support for finger tips. The key surface also has a rougher texture instead of being flat, smooth and glossy, which I hope more manufacturers will emulate.
> Currently, most new apps are written in Objective-C, JavaScript, Python, Java, and dozens of other so-called "fad languages".

Holy shit, please tell me that this is satire.
That's fascinating, I didn't realize that key serves multilingual support in some countries. Is that the standard configuration in China or a common setting for that key there?
Out of myself and my nine coworkers (all developers) I believe that 6 of the 10 use MPBs. We don’t build iOS apps or use Xcode. I should also note that we have a BYOD policy so.
I can't believe how often I accidentally press something on the touch bar as my finger somehow brushes across it.
> "classic, conservative"

Very odd to see these words used in conjunction with a modern language like Swift.
Wow, and I thoughtmobile data in Germany was expensive. I pay 8€/m for 4GB. Although the LTE coverage is pretty bad with my provider.
JavaScript got popular because it was the only option for scripting in browser. Newbs constantly trip over its hazardous wires lying all over the floor. It's absurdly daunting, especially once you bring in all the modern libraries full of their own baggage.

What you say is true for Python though.
They already have much of your financials. They buy them like everyone else that wants to know.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/05/23...
A phone camera is used to capture moments you want to preserve for posterity. A laptop camera is used for conference calls and no one needs to see all my facial flaws in 4K detail.

So, no, I don’t consider this in any way to be a dealbreaker.
I'm a US citizen. Most of his points are valid.

Guns fucking everywhere is a problem. Lots of Americans think so. Yes, we absolutely execute people -- and our criminal justice system is a completely sham, especially if you're not white and rich.

Oh, and God save you from our health care economics.

If I weren't American, I'd absolutely never come here. In fact, I am American, and I'm actively researching ways to establish residency elsewhere.
Those ads aren't meant to make you buy something. They work in a more subtle way by shaping culture. It's a little difficult to explain what the purpose of that is and how it benefits the company. I recommend trying to read up on it, as it's pretty interesting, but will easily take you a few hours.
Looks pretty good, I think I'll wait until the new microled displays though.

The thermal design updates are welcome, that was seriously crippling previous Macbook Pros.

I'd love to know how long and what clock rate the 8-core 16" MBP can sustain multi-core workloads running at 100% core utilisation. My guess is for a minute or so at 3.5ghz+.
I started using Ctrl-C instead of Escape in Vim years ago (long before the Touchbar) as it means I don't have to move my hands from the home position.
JFC you guys and the Google Reader thing -- it's been six years, get a new canned response to every Google story.
Provide quotes. Name the website. Otherwise you’re convincing nobody.
And I have never, in more than twenty-five years of using a Mac laptop and surrounding myself with people who do the same, seen anyone try to _touch-type_ a function key.
I know you’re not being precise, but the term “backed” is not valid. For a currency to be “backed” or more accurately commodity backed currency, you must be able to exchange that currency for that other thing. I.e. money for gold. You can’t get the electricity back in exchange for your bitcoin. :)
It's crazy how a billion people and millions of developers are using Windows when it's barely usable. Is there some small possibility that you're wrong about this?

Also, does macOS have a Unix shell that you can just start using for your work out of the box or do you have to use something like Homebrew to bring it up to modern standards first?

Usability is certainly an opinion. I can get a Unix shell on any OS, have been able to for decades. But we don't just want a shell do we? We want a decent desktop environment with a good system for managing application windows... We want updates that don't cause problems. We want a good file browser.

macOS has none of these things, not out of the box and not even with third party utilities to fix things and fill in missing features.
Getting Started with Python Idle
They are illegal because the politics of the decades before us have decided they should be illegal.
There's almost no resale market for diamonds, currently. A newspaper famously tries to sell a diamond every few years and publishes the result. They've never sold one.

So the insurance value for diamonds is their replacement cost, not their 'value'. Since if you can't sell it, it's got a hard time establishing a number for value.
Nice examples. Can we use some that are probably 100x more common at Google?

Maybe you’re recruiting, and they let slip that they passed over a white male candidate because they're working on a new diversity initiative. Or maybe, after being trained constantly on gender bias and seeing vigorous workplace political debates on the subject, you investigate the issue and find no evidence to support anything other than the fact that men and women have different preferences, and you present this evidence to the debate and get fired.

Even acknowledging such cases seems to be political.
Seriously? To all the people that say they don't use the f keys: What about adjusting volume, screen brightness, or going to the next or previous song?

This is something i do dozens of times a day -without looking-.
Having to look down, find, then aim my finger at a long glass screen 50-100 times a day is a annoying if just for these features.
+1, a great skill to have. You can make so many things.
I don't understand why they don't let users remap Fn keys in System Preferences. That will pretty much replace 90% of Touch Bar use cases.
Your analogy does not work. The reason people succumbed to widespread and severe physical illness, despite clear evolutionary pressure not to do so, is because there is equal evolutionary pressure on pathogens to successfully bypass host adaptations.

Any psychological or physiological damage which doesn't noticeably dent your reproductive fitness, isn't -- at least as far as evolution is concerned. But being a mental wreck along the lines that PTSD is often portrayed very clearly would negatively impact your reproductive success.
How to Cohost GitHub and Gitlab with Ansible
Changing your assertion from Mac users in general to "professionals" is moving the goal posts a long way.

As of last year, roughly 10% of all personal computers on the internet are Macs. Do you think a majority of those--say 6% of all PC users worldwide--are iOS devs and other professional MacOS lock-ins?
What does OpenBSD have to do with FreeNAS? Or did you just mean unfriendly behaviour in general.

What I've noticed about the OpenBSD mailing lists is that while people are generally decent and helpful if you show that you put at least some effort into your question, I also see negative responses to the less good questions that are just not needed, and without value.

I still like OpenBSD because it's just a good OS, but I think some people could stand to tune up their filters a bit.
That is speculation based off the wording they used in the description. He reached this conclusion because it said RAM/SSD were "not user accessible" and they used to say "built into the computer" - no one really knows the answer. I imagine they remain soldered.
Chrome: CVE-2019-13720, CVE-2019-5786
Firefox: CVE-2019-11707/CVE-2019-11708

Your turn. Link the speculative execution 0days.
Especially for visually-impaired users.
My problem with the TouchBar is that I'm using my laptop with an external screen 90% of the time so I'm never really getting used to it.

If the external keyboard had a TouchBar and I would start incorporating it into my workflow I can see it's use-fullness.
What does the article mean by the "end" of desktop boards? Is it the end of sockets accepting multiple generations of CPUs?

I can see that it's not entirely true either, Socket 1151 supports both Skylake and Kaby Lake: http://asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z390%20Phantom%20Gaming%20X/index...

What change did actually take place?
They don't necessarily have to work on you, they just have to work in general. HN itself is a bit of a bubble, for anyone on here it is likely they want to intentionally avoid internet ads more than the average person.

I work in ads for the airline space, I'm on the engineering side so I can't give great financial numbers offhand, but we usually do trial runs on just subsets of routes an airline offers, and for every customer so far the increased revenue on those routes heavily outweighed the new ad spend. Of course you can make bad ads, just like you're saying. We have departments dedicated to that though, I myself couldn't tell you too much about making a good ad that a few SEO blog posts wouldn't cover better.

But it can be formulaic to a degree. If you're an airline, give us some of your metrics and we can get a pretty good estimate of your ad performance at different levels. Got a SaaS product, video game, new snack? We're useless, but there's likely some company of analysts out there who have you covered.

I'm sure it's extremely variable by market though. Air travel has huuuge volume and lots of customers from every tech-proficiency level. I often get YouTube ads for B2B SaaS services and other extremely targeted business things, and I wonder who is signing a 20mm contract that started from a YouTube ad?? Maybe some other commenter will tell me it works though.

Edit: Actually, I signed up for Robert C Martin's (Uncle Bob) new software training video site recently because his youtube ads were so silly. It helps that I knew his name long before though, and I've yet to pay for one of the non-free ones.
Yes you can have buttons to change volume and brightness. In fact the icons next to the slider are buttons you can tap to lower/increase volume/brightness. Or you can configure them to always show up as buttons without slider.
It's good when we allow them to fail gracefully. I would hate to see what unscrupulous stuff a failing Google could do with all our info being held hostage.
I dislike Windows too, but PowerShell is pretty nice if you are stuck in the Windows environment. It's not really a Unix-like shell, but it is comfortable enough compared to the rest of the ecosystem.
14", no touchbar, 4 USB-C ports, improved keyboard = the ideal MBP

bonus: add the magsafe port back to achieve god tier
https://github.com/tensorflow/swift/blob/master/docs/WhySwif.... Maybe this one
You never control the volume, brightness or change songs without looking down?? I do this many times a day even when not using the programmable fn functions.
Have used Parl at its height.

After studying Java and C courses Per felt like a language I can finally do something useful without boilerplate. And for simple text processing it was fast enough.

But then codebase grew... Switched to Python and never looked back past 15 years.

Please let Perl die
'Posterity' is a stretch? Snapchat would dispute that.

In fact, if a phone really wanted to take good pictures (and not just market 'megapixels') they'd have focus, light balance, shutter speed controls. About all they can do is take still portraits.
I don't think only Muslims could use the rooms in any stories I have read about this topic. That wasn't my point.

Consider going to a Muslim majority country where the religion controls the laws (like Indonesia) and /demand/ your Christian religious needs be accommodated.

From my studying, you would either be summarily dismissed or even possibly punished.
Is that a translation preference or is the word for milk used specifically?

That excerpt is talking about deceiving someone with dilute pounded rice served as milk.
I do however touch the volume, brightness and media controls all the time. The touchbar really makes these hard to quick press without looking (or tapping twice in some cases).
Well, speaking as a daily vim user, you must be much more talented than I am at using a keyboard. I could never get the hang of touch-typing the virtual ESC (especially since in certain workflows I want to be able to rest my finger on the key without pressing it).

It was the thing that finally got me to rebind my mode switch to `jj`. Which works great, until the keyboard decides that "j" is the key it's going to double that day, then it's very frustrating... Fortunately today the keys it has decided to double are "bb" and "88"
I also notice that votes aren't registered if I close the tab immediately (within 1 second) after voting.
> You can search a whole info file just as quickly as a man page

It's possible that I just don't know how to use info. I always end up in the wrong place. That does not happen with man.

> and using the index you can jump to the canonical docs for any argument or command in one go

How?

> (ever spent time trying to find the hyphen-character section of a man page but struggled because it's referenced in 10 places?)

No, because the options are indented and inserting a few spaces before the hyphen in search string eliminates virtually all in-text references. Conventionally, the options are alpha-sorted too. In info pages, I end up wondering which section the option I want might be covered in.
So if they are a macro tool does it make sense for me to use them when hocking my widgets?
Yeah... it's really contextual (of course). I work with MSSQL a lot these days and really like that Azure Data Studio has a decent sized "Run query" button in the touch bar, and I use the brightness/volume sliders all the time.

Most apps don't use it very well though - I actually quite dislike Safari's overcomplicated tab buttons - I can't make out anything so it's basically useless, and I use cmd left arrow to go back not the touchbar button.

I would love to have a hardware escape key. But despite the shitty butterfly keyboard issues I'm currently going through I want to keep this Macbook as long as possible.
To be clear, this was NOT written by Larry Wall. It was written by Will "the Chill" Braswell, author of a perl fork called `RPerl.`

He is not speaking for the general Perl community
Don't show a splash screen.
Python is actually a good example of such language. I feel like it started to stagnate around a decade ago(slow adoption of Python 3, poor packaging, Ruby on Rails winning over Django etc) but then it has reinvented itself in the area of ML/AI. Similarly but less impressively, Java 8 has slowed down the rate of flow of Java devs to newer languages.
It would be insider trading if the person you purchased from had a duty to the company to keep the secret (they worked for the company and learned of the vulnerability in the normal course of their job, say). If they are an independent researcher and you are an independent researcher, trade away. Then it is just like using satellites to find out that a shopping mall's parking lot is empty on a big shopping day- trade all you want.

If they signed a NDA to cash in on the bug bounty and then sold it to you, I think they are vulnerable to breach of contract, but I don't think you are legally vulnerable, however this is not legal advice, I am not a lawyer, and do you want to go through the expense of finding out?
Still no NVIDIA GPU - so not for writing deep learning code.
Also no ray tracing in games :(
> On July 3, 2019, we finally learned that, to our surprise, the Intel PSIRT team had missed the PoCs from our Sep 29 submission, despite having awarded a bounty for it, explaining why Intel had failed to address - or even publicly acknowledge - many RIDL-class vulnerabilities on May 14, 2019.

What does this usage of the word 'missed' mean in this context? That they lost it / failed to deliver the PoC to the relevant team? Or that they released a "fix" knowing that it didn't defeat the PoC?
Man I really want to upgrade for that keyboard, but they don't have the early 2019 models on their trade in :(
I really liked Inbox...
It sounds like Citi bank is providing most of the actual services so they'd probably roll the account fully on to them in that event.
There were already keys for all those functions...
I've had a touchbar machine as my primary for a couple years now and essentially don't use the touchbar. But I didn't use f-keys all that much either.

I think there are some software improvement that could maybe make it better, but I'm not sure better enough to be compelling.
> a project to make Perl faster.

That’s respectable and worthwhile regardless, but I don’t think performance was a major factor in Perl’s decline. If I start a project right now in Python instead of Perl, it will have absolutely nothing to do with Perl not being fast enough. That is to say, I doubt performance improvements of Perl 5 will help much in regaining ground.
FWIW, my sister's kids (3 and 2) aren't the least bit interested in Disney.
AMD was always a worthy target because they sold a lot of cost-effective mid and low range CPUs to Dell and friends. They have been absent from the peak performance market for a while but that's a small fraction of computers. After all, AMD didn't go out of business, and they had to be selling a lot of CPUs.
Is there any hope of Apple including an Nvidia card in a future laptop or has that ship completely sailed?
How do you all monitor concept drift or monitoring to detect when its time to deploy a fresh model?
Electric car future may depend on deep sea mining
The web is getting so terrible I have started blocking all cookies and javascript by default, as well as running all the usual extensions.

More and more of the web seems to get closed off to me every day with posture, but honestly I'd rather just stop using computers entirely than have everything I do be coopted by surveillance capitalism. I never agreed to any of this crap.
How would the company know you’re just using it for a bank payment as opposed to running a torrent client without having the ability to monitor activity?
For years, I have bemoaned the demise of the 17" MBP. 16" with small bezels is a worthy compromise. Thank you Apple.
> like the ability to quickly change volume/brightness

Well, these have physical buttons pre-touchbar, so the touchbar is definitely slower since it requires two clicks (one to summon the slider) and you have to look at it instead of just feeling it.
Like.. a divorce?
Once my 2015 MBP dies, I'll probably replace it with the most maxed-out refurbished 2015 MBP I can find. It's the perfect laptop.
It makes no sense. I use a $100 Logitech Webcam and _regularly_ get comments about how sharp and clear the video is, using Zoom.

There's value in a better camera, even in laptops.
Dumb question: Can you clarify what ZBB'd means in this context? I've never seen it before. There's a wiki page [0] with various meanings for the abbreviation, but nothing seemed to fit. Maybe Zero-based budgeting?

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZBB
If they consider the mailing an "improper" use of the return label, they can toss it regardless of weight.
Ooh, I do! Or at least, did, before touch bar. I use Apptivate to remap them to my most used programs. So I could touch type to bring up Finder, Terminal, Chrome, Sublime, etc.
> There’s also more space between keys — about 0.5mm. This difference is much more noticeable by feel than by sight. Making it easier to feel the gaps between keys really does make a difference.

https://daringfireball.net/2019/11/16-inch_macbook_pro_first...
Need to encrypt your existing AWS RDS database? Follow the guide
It always seemed backwards that the touch bar is a pro feature. Aren't pros the group that learn all the keyboard commands? The touch bar seems like it would be most useful to non-pro users.
I also use the FN keys extensively each day to control screen brightness, volume and change songs without looking.

Almost anyone i have seen use MBP i have seen at some point use the brightness or volume controls without looking. So you don't even have to be using them for some advanced purpose. The panic volume-down with the right hand is a classic.

I actually don't quite believe you guys saying that you don't use the built-in functions several times a day - that was the first thing that was annoying to me with the touchbar. That you can't control volume and brightness from pure memory.
I was afraid of having to go that path when Apple would continue with their direction in pro hardware. I was only allowed to use a Linux laptop (Dell) in my previous job and even with how customizable Linux is I just could never get comfortable with it.
Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but that's definitely not their primary purpose, which is what I think OP was saying.

Sure, once they exist, there are secondary effects who are important in themselves.