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> If we can't, as a group, tolerate awkwardness, we are very much down the rabbit hole of mandatory social conformity.

There's a difference between tolerating it to a degree and letting leaders continue uncomfortable awkwardness. If it's enough to distance people, maybe they're not a great candidate for a leader. That doesn't remove anything from their achievements and abilities to contribute or to spread new ideas. The post says "If an occasional social gaffe or failed attempt at humor is all it takes to get thrown out on the street" - entirely omitting the space occupied by almost all of us: between homelessness and being a leader of a global movement/organisation.

We can at the same time tolerate awkwardness and hold our local and global leaders to high standards.
If this social norm is so "phenomenally clear", then why are there such wildly different ages of consent even among western countries and US states? It seems strange that the ability to consent magically appears the day you turn (say) 18. I mean, the law has to draw a line somewhere, but intellectuals like RMS should be allowed to talk about such things without being cast out of civilized society.
> I choose to graduate soon, I will likely surrender my chance for a PhD.

Why? There must be a prof somewhere who is willing to accept you.
I wouldn't call the MIT CSAIL list "private communications". Sure, it's not open to the general public but it is public enough to warrant a public discussion. (Additionally it has members around the same age as the abuse victim.)
How many companies in the US have paid paternity leave?
> I won't be able to find interesting work with just a MSc, and I'm really afraid of getting a boring software engineering gig.

You don't even need a MSc to get interesting work...

What do you find to be interesting work? Creating things, what sort of things?
Spot on.

You have just outlined the double-speak of the SV technocracy, which have imposed these hidden codes on those that they disagree with. Mind you that the media has now amplified this and have used all of this to create a new enemy called Richard Stallman. As long as this appalling cancel-culture behaviour stops, he certainly won't be the last one to fall victim to these purity tests.

Absolutely hypocritical indeed.
> Every episode I read about fell into the category of "socially awkward adult male". If we can't, as a group, tolerate awkwardness, we are very much down the rabbit hole of mandatory social conformity.

Perhaps you need to read about more episodes:

> I worked 10 years ago at VA Linux which had Richard Stallman on its board of directors. You might have heard that Stallman applied his open source ideas to his publicly open marriage as well. The problem was that he was more than open. He made overt sexual advances to women at work. One young woman who worked next to me was so upset from his multiple advances that she took it to senior management. She was able to deal with the problem without taking the issue outside the company. I don’t know the details, but she was given advanced warning anytime Stallman was headed over so that she could leave. He was a creep and women at the company knew to stay away.

* https://daringfireball.net/2019/09/richard_stallmans_disgrac...
I definitely notice my vision getting worse when I use my phone for a while. Especially long or mid distance view suffers. It takes a few minutes to hours to get back to normal. Laptop screens have much less of this effect.
Do we need another rehash? The only thing new I learned here is that his log showed a resignation from the GNU project leadership (https://archive.is/wHrTo), which has since been removed, and that came only two days after saying he wouldn't, joking about being a nuisance at the same time (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2019-09/msg00008...)

Edit: as for the "maybe homeless" claim, as far as I know, it's his life style. Relatedly, I've heard many horror stories of people who hosted him. Here's one I saw recently (with more in the replies): https://mobile.twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/117398128703...
With all the asshole CEOs, managers, office bullies, in this world - of course we should ruin the life of Richard Stallman. Well done everybody.
> claiming they were actually willing

Did you even bother to read the emails or at the very least the article? This misconception is exactly what's being argued there, that Stallman said something clearly different.

> Ignoring a legal age of consent

By doing what, raping someone underage? Or rather expressing his opinion that it's ridiculous that when in one state the age of consent is 16, in another one it's 18, and yet people are judged morally and criminally for failing to distinguish between these two? So basically what you're saying is that possessing a non-standard opinion and criticizing existing laws should make you a non-person. I believe you'd feel very much at home in the USSR, the communist party had the same ideas.
Spotted this on the hot question list, totally out of the loop on the latest SE drama, can somebody fill me in?
Society: "We must embrace neuro-diversiry"

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Society: "No! Not like that! Kill it! Kill it!"
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mods are volunteers, who provide their time for free to improve the site, I'm not aware of any mods that are paid.
You should be banned from HN for this - you initially stated that you wanted to see the finger pointers "dead and buried" and then edited it.

You are a coward.
"We deserve"? Stallman led because he is possibly literally the only person who stood up and tried to lead. It is difficult to imagine he won any sort of leadership contest with anyone (on anything apart from technical merit. Stallman just isn't a political animal). The work he has done is thankless and probably fairly miserable by an objective standard.

If you want to do a better job; go do it.
Can we stop these threads? They are not productive, we have all chosen our sides on this particular "metoo" vs. "cancel culture" debate and nobody is having their minds changed.
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I'll give you the short explanation and then an article reference supporting. That might give you other terms to further research.

The trim is driven by a jackscrew. That jackscrew is driven by a mechanism in the cockpit (a large double wheel near each flight crew station). At low and moderate airspeeds, the jackscrew turns relatively easily. At high airspeeds and low elevator deflections (meaning "when the aircraft is approximately in trim"), the jackscrew turns relatively easily. At high airspeeds and high elevator deflections, the forces on the tail make the jackscrew difficult to turn due heavy forces. This would be the case where the aircraft is trimmed heavily nose down and the crew is holding large amounts of up elevator to compensate. (You're basically cranking the tail into a different position against the air loads on it.)

Slowing the airplane down would almost surely have helped the crew by reducing these loads. If you're going too fast (information the crew had available to them both in cockpit and confirmed by radio after they inquired while fighting), 94% N1 is not where you want the engines set.

It's not a popular or comfortable position to look into the actions of the crew and find areas for improvement in light of the fact that they were dealt a very difficult situation that morning.

Even with that, it appears that they correctly diagnosed the root of the issue, correctly disabled the electric trim [memory item on the checklist], for some reason left the engines at takeoff power [possibly just overlooked them, though overlooking engine power setting is like overlooking breathing to pilots], and when even knowing it was part of the problem, they correctly re-enabled the electric trim system in order to help them manage the situation, they then failed to command continuous nose up electric trim [which would have cut out MCAS and given them assistance in trimming the aircraft nose up]. The only reason to have the malfunctioning electric trim back on is to command nose up trim. Why turn it on, immediately command nose up, then stop and leave the faulty system engaged?

That crew was so close to saving the aircraft that it's frustrating as a pilot and a human. Slight adjustments to the above sequence and they're rightly heroes alongside Captains Sullenberger and Haynes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-procedu...
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By that definition, any discussion that was ever leaked was not private, by virtue of it being leaked.
If you want to read the other side's argument, here it is, from International Bunker Industry Association: https://ibia.net/facts-and-fears-in-the-open-loop-scrubber-d...

The main point is that there is regulation for washwater based on science. The article describes "warm, acidic, contaminated washwater containing carcinogens including polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) and heavy metals", but regulation in fact specifically includes standard for heavy metals, PAHs, and acidity. You should argue why acidity standard is wrong and what it should be, instead of repeating "acidic washwater".
I wonder if anyone has ever said, sincerely, "sir, I believe you are committing an Argumentum ad Baculum," let alone had this produce a useful result.

Discussion is subject to an information problem when we're trying to strike a balance between underexplaining and overexplaining.

I have a mental catalog of things A, B, C, D, E. You have a mental catalog of things C, D, E, F, G. Neither of us is aware of the other's catalog.

So we have to guess. Say I argue X -> B -> Y, but I assumed you already knew B and glossed over it. That's going to look like X -> ?? -> Y, and you'll likely percieve that as a non sequitur because you can't follow how I got from X to Y.

Your best recourse is to say, "hold on, I don't follow how you get from X to Y," whereupon I can guess you don't know B and explain it.

Even if you're sure someone is committing a fallacy, it's not reliable to cite the name of the fallacy. As fallacies have entered general usage, they've taken on a much broader meaning than what references cite.

A useful (intuitive even!) reference would include plain English explanations. Instead of saying something is a strawman, "I think you're exaggerating my position here because I don't believe X, Y or Z," makes clear what the problem is.
that's like, not a "large number" but i digress... just wanted to say that i empathize with the mod that wrote they just were just tired. mods getting tired is reason #1 i left a few communities in the past.

it usually means that things aren't looking good. but there is little that could be done about it. i have not seen it last though. a new wave of people tend to come along with a fresh view on how to handle things. the meantime, though, is what's hard to live through. it's what makes people tired and what makes them move on...
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> Yes, because of people like you, Geoff.

I don't see why you have to attack the author here, but let me ask you this -- if I "feel" unwelcomed by your conduct, for whatever reason, on a "private" mailing list, then should you be forced to resign?
It also identifies cancers where early detection usually makes a life and death difference. Like esophageal and pancreatic and probably others.
"lynch-mobbers" are not "everyone who I disagree with".

Invoking <current year> isn't usually said with a straight face anymore.
> space travel is pretty much the only thing that makes sense

There are plenty of things we can do. We can be more harmonious to our planet, for one. We can learn to make the atacama or sahara deserts habitable. We can learn to stop the climate shift we seem to be experiencing. We can be more harmonious to the other humans on this planet.

These are all big ticket items that will still exist even if we found some garden of eden on some far off shore. I can't think of anything worse than taking our mining and destructive natures to an innocent planet. We have created this planet's problems. We should fix them before shooting moonbeams and running away from them.
> What if I have this API instead

I say let data be data and write code where you need code. How does the library handle this in one step? How long does it take you to find out?

> Also, ugh. macros.

Data macros are the best. You don't have to debug them at runtime, they let you get rid of a lot of boilerplate such as compile-time computations (e.g. offsetof(), sizeof())

> do you now have ARRAY_ITEM_JSON, ARRAY_ITEM_BSON, ARRAY_ITEM_CBOR, ARRAY_ITEM_YAML

I'm really sorry if you have to do that. I never had, and likely never will. But I'd probably just write the example I gave, in 5 flavours, in 5 separate implementation files. The alternative, dealing with 5 oversized libraries that approach this thing in a totally different way, is not appealing to me at all.

> What when the format changes so that `ARRAY_ITEM("foo", foo, INT, 3)` now wants floats ? woohoo, magic truncation instead of a compile error.

No, runtime error message about a wrong type in a JSON payload. Or if you mean this: the type of the C array's elements changed from int to float. Then just check the type of the array elements against the specified type (INT) which should expect a specific C type. There are easy ways to get a representation of the array element type in C++ as well as an in C (the macro can do it automatically).

> obtuse macro definitions

#define ARRAY_ITEM(_srcfield, _arraylength, _basetype, _dstfield) { .srcfield=_srcfield, .typekind=TYPE_ARRAY, .arraylength=_arraylength, .basetype=_basetype, .offset=offsetof(MyStruct, _dstfield) }

If you think that is obtuse reconsider C++ templates.
Yes, I believe publicly advocating for certain things can severely break cultural norms and make it impossible for you to effectively hold a leadership role in an educational or advocacy setting.

Are you arguing that no social norms violation should ever result in being fired? You can go to work and scream at people at the top of your lungs? Tell the receptionist you’re glad she had a miscarriage? Use the sink as a urinal?

Assuming we agree that at least one or two things may get you fired from your job, it’s then possible to follow up with some observations:

1) Saying it’s ok for adults to fuck minors is definitely on that list

2) I’m ok with that
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Yay, maybe interesting questions/discussion won’t be shut down now!
"Some"?

I wish. I have a baby and the most important question is allways: a boy or a girl?
(Not: healthy? Everything allright? Hard birth? (Yes, allmost, yes))

And clothes, very important the distinction between boy and girl. We got a lot of second hand clothing ... and people did not understand, that I really don't car about the color shades. They should be comfortable, good to the babyskin and fitting for the weather. And good looking, yeah, that comes afterwards. But underlining that it is a son? Why?
He’s autistic. He probably gives almost everyone he comes into contact with the creeps. Neurotypical people don’t like autistic people, and would prefer to avoid them to the greatest extent possible.

I doubt Stallman was any more unpleasant to women than to men, or showed any greater or lesser social graces. He has never, ever held back about any of his opinions or actions. I’m sure you could get him to admit to things that would get almost anyone fired by most jobs in under ten minutes and he wouldn’t deny any of it afterwards.

People like Stallman don’t do professional because he’s not a faker. He’s not trying to make money or buy prestige. He just wants free software.
The other side of this problem is that more than one billion people around the world can't afford glasses.

"More than a billion people around the world need eyeglasses but don’t have them, researchers say, an affliction long overlooked on lists of public health priorities. Some estimates put that figure closer to 2.5 billion people. They include thousands of nearsighted Nigerian truck drivers who strain to see pedestrians darting across the road and middle-aged coffee farmers in Bolivia whose inability to see objects up close makes it hard to spot ripe beans for harvest. Then there are the tens of millions of children like Shivam across the world whose families cannot afford an eye exam or the prescription eyeglasses that would help them excel in school."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/05/health/glasses-developing...
I like the idea of the specific strategies, although the three offered mainly seem to apply to one-person projects, or to the experiences of a single person in a wider team. There is a mention of the evolution of intra-team dynamics of a group project, but no specific strategies aimed at groups.
People are angry at Stallman for what he actually said, not what you think they think he said.

I think it's more to the point that people who, for whatever reasons, have a grudge against Professor Stallman (and there are undoubtedly a lot of those) are very happily jumping on the band waggon.

edit: some clarification
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This article was from 1996. I wonder if this has happened since then:

>National or international regulatory agencies should ensure that water filters marketed for domestic use do not allow deterioration in the microbiological quality of drinking water.
The Mongols?
Still works out though? renewables ~30% of electricity now, coal 30% of electricity when it undertook the industrial revolution. I'm making the assumption that the industrial revolution was overwhelmingly powered by coal, which seems reasonable, I'm not sure how to go about accounting for horses though.
Then he wouldn't be seen as an awkward guy who doesn't know any better but instead as an arrogant dick.
FYI: the more choices women have, the less like are they to choose IT. Nothing to do with "hostility".
Sitting for hours in front of the screen starring at code may not seem so appealing to everyone.
He made feel unwelcome both women and men. Not just women. It was part of his personality.
If my answer is “Yes, but only temporarily!” does that still count?

For real though, this comment confirms all of my intuition. I’m about to start a PhD at the age of 36, with a spouse and child to support, and I know my bank account will never forgive me for this. But... I can’t not do it.
> Soyouz is cheap.

Only in relation to other single-use rockets.

SpaceX has been eating russian's (and other countries') space business for years now, simply because they are cheaper.
It seems to me not credible that a 70 year old Minsky believed that a quite young lady would, on minutes of meeting him, be so attracted that she would be anxious to be intimate.
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...and does a great job explaining his pov. It's not like he's saying that sexual assaults do not exist, and people should be able to rape / immodestly touch whoever they please with impunity.

> Sexual assault: The term is applied to a broad range of actions, ranging from stealing a kiss to rape, as well as other things in between. It acts as propaganda for treating them the same.
In general I think if you are very unhappy it makes sense to change things up. It is possible to do a PhD later in life if you want to.

It might help you to change the area you live, get a job and see what that is like. It will help you see what is good and bad about academia and just working a normal job and that will let you make an informed decision about how to proceed.

Also I agree totally the interactive theorem proving is the future.
> The underlying cause is believed to be a combination of genetic and environmental factors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-sightedness
Doesn't this imply that proprietary software vendors were pushing for his resignation? I mean, yeah, sure, but in all honesty, I never considered the FSF to be that influential.

If anything, I'd almost agree on the fact that RMS made (as ironic as this sounds) selling free software more difficult than if it was any standard corporate drone in his place. He's a great idealist, but he's not really good at selling things...
Then maybe we should have removed him for one of the previous instances of awkwardness, because the message I see here in no way justifies any of the things that subsequently happened.

I would not call it anything less than a disgrace for anyone involved.
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In a sense, the concept of the GPL is evidence of social mastery over mal-adjustment.
Interesting. Which version? Did you use an IDE (and an editor with good PHP bindings)? Was it a legacy project? Does the project use composer? What didn't you like?
The BSD are certainly Free Software today, for they clearly respect the four freedoms. They did not exist, though, at the beginning of the GNU project.
> If it's enough to distance people, maybe they're not a great candidate for a leader.

Isn't the whole point of a 'leader' that they challenge the status quo not bite their tongue to follow it?
Out of curiosity, how where the applicants selected for the interviews? Because first you limit the funnel for a certain group of people at the very start, then you have maybe an algorithm with a selection bias against the same group before we end up with an potentially also biased interview process before we reach an equally biased work life. I less we have reliable numbers for the funnel just looking at the interview stage misses the whole point.
How was he ``forced'' to resign?
https://www.reddit.com/r/justneckbeardthings/comments/2vkeze...
> How do you know that he deliberately tries to make women uncomfortable?

He doesn’t do it deliberately (probably). The accusations are only that he does it.

> I don't think any women is comfortable near a fat, bearded virgin that eats things off his foot

None of the things you just listed were part of the reasons they gave.

> but to accuse him of deliberately making women uncomfortable

Again – deliberate not necessary for this to be a bad thing.

In case you haven’t seen it and/or for your browsing convenience, here’s a link to the main set of actual issues in question: https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendi... (the fact that I’m linking this doesn’t mean I agree with every word of it or take its truth as a given, by the way – just pointing out that you’re arguing against a non-position)
I was challenging jhgg's comment, by requesting actual clarification and proof for the very broad statements they made. But if I'm honest, this entire thread is full of many such comments - propping up and praising {tech name} whilst providing little to no data to show for it. And that's how we got cargo culting. But please downvote away :)
It's literally in the first lines of the article.

> "In short: Stallman made some technically-correct-but-utterly-tactless comments on a private mailing list, mostly in defense of his late friend and colleague Marvin Minsky."
You are still shadowbanning people for naughty words, HN?