skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
My bank in the U.S. (BOFA) has some weird autofill problems. When I try to log out of one business account and log into another, often at the last second the autofill will re-fill in the other account (and clash with my LastPass!) and I find myself logged back into one account when the form had the other login info right up to the time I pressed submit.
Humans might be plenty dangerous to the rest of the galaxy. It remains to be seen.
There are several issues with this. Narrow thinking as regards the sort of input to expect from users. But asides from the input and what sort of data to expect, I'd like to think they have some sort of analytics which shows drop off rate and what actions occurred before these drop offs, this should have made the problem obvious.
open offices are plain and simple about two things, neither of which is related to worker health or productivity.

cost: open offices, once built out are cheap in terms of cog pers square foot.
marketing: airy, light, trendy open office make great photos.

I knew my present company had succumbed to the disease when a request for whiteboard desk dividers was denied because, to paraphrase: 'they don't fit in with the airy flow we were going for'
You are what you leak (2018)
Not gonna happen. Working in an office is cultural, and as long as the majority of jobs require presence (read: almost every non knowledge-worker job) it won't change.

Personally I don't like the idea of remote work anyway - I think we're missing a lot of valuable bandwidth. We're social creatures and no amount of technology will change that. That being said, I think the option should be there for those who disagree with me.

A good middle ground would be a mix of remote and in-person work.
Warp Is Not a VPN for Privacy
You mean 1 percent annual return compounded monthly?

Or 1/12th of a percent monthly return compounded monthly?
I had never seen these ideas put down on paper but it is true for me. My mind can be pretty satisfied with just thinking it knows how it would be if I accomplished something instead of actually doing it.
Ah, the page that says $190k refers to 2 years worth of income, not $190k/yr. We're fixing that now!
> I have a two year old. Getting him up and going before 8 is impossible

Forgive me for being blunt but: no it isn't. It might take some work over a few weeks and may mean some tough mornings, but throwing up your hands and saying "well, I guess you're the boss 2 year old!" is silly. Your two year old can't tell time and you can migrate his schedule forward 5-10mins a day if you want too. Yes, his sleeping/waking will fluctuate around a mean and you can't control that, but you can control the mean value.
Eating Urchins: Can Gourmet Diners Reverse the Collapse of an Ecosystem?
We still have cube walls, seems like a reasonable compromise to me.
WeWork and Uber are viable businesses which are heroically trying to absorb flood of excess capital sloshing around the world today. Both WeWork and Uber have potentially enormous TAMs which can justify insane valuations despite being loss-making. And both WeWork and Uber had charasmatic but highly dysfunctional (from a management perspective) leaders who were able to combine salesmanship with dirty dealing to solve the problem facing the big institutional investors - having too much money and nowhere to put it. You can't parcel up $100bn into tiny packets and participate in hundreds of thousands of series A/B/C/Ds - instead you find a business with a plausably enormous TAM, a founder who is essentially a professional PR/brand builder (so as to reassure your clients), pump them full of cash and wait for the IPO.

WeWork didn't quite make it over the line this time, but I wouldn't count them out just yet.

There is nothing stopping WeWork or Uber becoming profitable businesses, even if it means they have to forgo volume (for Uber, they almost certainly have to increase fares. WeWork would have to stop building new locations). The explaination for why they don't is the above.
Whistleblowers should be given the medal of freedom not the ones taking it away.

IMO, whisleblowing is so important to preserve freedoms and human rights that protections for Whistleblowers should be added to the constitution.
The Irishman Images CG De-Age Robert De Niro – and It's Weird
That is why I ask first.
Maybe you want to add Klong (K family, http://t3x.org/klong/) -- not necessarily eso, but not exactly mainstream, either. :)

Then, T3X was invented in 1995. And Klong in 2015.
Understood. Difficult to get the tone right when a poster is clearly posting as a corporate spokesperson (esp. a first-time poster as here), but I'll consider that next time... though I'm rather hoping not for an omg-my-mac-won't-boot next time!
Oh wow! Can this finally solve the “play the first song in Music App when CarPlay is connected” issue?
I don't have an issue with open offices per se but the person in front of me is from another culture and is literally 24/7 in skype calls which distracts me to no end, and the worst part is the he/she is literally /burping and farting/ without any shame. And I don't mean once a day, no, constantly burping and farting, it's honestly disgusting.

/rant
Same auditory distraction (which might not be much depending on your coworkers), but much less visual distraction. I’d much rather have cubes.
They sure do.

The M1 money supply has gone from 1.5 trillion in 2009 to 3.8 trillion today. That's 2.5X more money in circulation in 10 years. A graph of that is a hockey stick - basically a 45 degree angle.

The dollar remains strong. Inflation remains low. Unemployment at record lows. Stock market at record highs. There is no sign that printing $20 billion per month for the last 10 years has had any negative effects.

The printing machines don't stop. Won't stop. Can't stop.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/money-supply-m1
This mechanism (but applied to good deeds) is described hilariously by Louis C.K.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eiCyT5pY_E
In some ways open office designs are a symptom of company cultures that do not value deep work more than the perceived value open plans offer such as cost savings or "collaboration".

From my vantage, there are quite a few more companies installing places for deep work in offices.

But even if companies install these spaces, if the company does not value deep work away from your primary desk, employees will feel discouraged about using those facilities.

It was probably the same culture disconnect for companies who would put a ping-pong table in the office even though deep down they would not actually want staff spending time utilizing them during the day as opposed to sitting at their desk working.
> Yes, but many European countries engage in so-called tracking of students, putting them in separate tracks for tradeswork, skilled labor, and university such that the "dumb" ones aren't taking university entrance exams.

Err, this is a positive thing? Personally I found the AP classes and SATs to be pretty useless beyond getting into college. We should just admit anyone who wants to to.

If the point of this is to justify high international test scores, there’s a much better argument there to test either nobody or everyone.
Agreed. My earmuffs are not a total solution.

You also need to limit things like visual things, potential interruptions, etc.

I actually used the "mother's room" at a place I worked for that from time to time. Good lighting, quiet, comfortable, PRIVATE. Granted I made sure nobody needed it, but it was a small office so I was reasonably sure that there would be no conflicts.
I spent two weeks on-site with a client at WeWork.

They had a large, glass-windowed open office overlooking the city. It was a beautiful office and view. It had a relaxed, social atmosphere.

Predictably, despite all those things, everyone fought over the tiny, phone-booth-sized desks that WeWork offered in the hallway. There was barely enough room for a single person and laptop -- basically an upright coffin with a glass door. And yet they were always occupied, even by people who weren't on calls.

Basically the most pleasant open office experience I've had, and people were still fighting for cubicles.
Sure the facemasks will probably foil any facial recognition techniques outside of iris. But the paint? That won't do a damn thing and you'll just end up looking like you're on your way to a Flock of Seagulls reunion tour.
Isn't that 1491 example making for a useless definition? I'm pretty sure pre-historic is something unknown. Celts have been written about by Greeks and Romans. Celts left artifacts, even ones inscribed with images, though no texts as far as I'm aware. It's not precisely prehistoric, nor precisely not. The importance of writing in the definition would be, if it came along with the spread of "civilisation", but it's a gradual thing. So I equate pre-historic with neo-lithic to pastoral lifestyle. But really, I have to click the link to find out whether its a sensationalized title or not.
+1 to this -- and I'll add that you can find decent sample legally-phrased "f••• off, idiots" letters on the web (they should cite a specific U.S. law that establishes the two requirements mentioned: communication in writing, and verification of the debt on demand -- I can't recall the law's citation number off the top of my head).
Rudder, an open source Segment alternative
I have no doubt that Tinder is also loaded with fake profiles to encourage user engagement as well.
>We know of no more efficient, safe, and easily convertible storage of energy than petrol hydrocarbons. So even if everyone else stopped today, someone will keep using them, and that group will have an advantage over their peers.

Or, you know, that group gets thrown to prison or bombed, and problem solved, how about that?

>Second, if we stop using oil in engines, guess what? It’ll go into lubes, and plastics, and other forms. We have a material we know no better alternative for.

Plastics compared to oil energy is a tiny percentage (which, still has its own problems).

But even if we had to do without both, and without modern conveniences, like plastics, and carbon fiber, and tons of others, and e.g. go back to a 1900 lifestyle, it still beats dying in a climate apocalypse (and returning to a 1900 B.C. lifestyle).
Yep, my music is moderately-paced and doesn't have words. It's not that different from background noise with a little tonality. I tried rain and slower music, but they made me somewhat drowsy.
Not only that but you won't get all the information, the informal stuff, and you will never get promoted.

Still, it's better than the alternative.
-> no assigned computers -> no assigned tickets, each day you'll continue working where someone left it the day before.
Funny you mention this... I previously worked in an open office layout where it was discouraged and frowned upon to wear noise cancelling headphones.

They wanted to support the ability of others to be able to come up to you without feeling like they were interrupting.
> just aimlessly wandering the halls (which I'm skeptical about, but let's go with it)

For some schools it is a real problem. My girlfriend works at a pretty bad high school and she has tons of students who keep failing their classes because they never show up and the principal literally wanders the halls himself to try and force kids to go back to class.
All societies censor. China censors Tienanmen square and gays, the West censors child porn and terrorist videos. All "for the good of society", we just happen to disagree what "the good of society" is.

So the real blame doesn't fall upon developers, but on their encompassing societies / governments, and on us, because we have to decide what technological platforms we want to use, and which society's standards of morality to import.
The noise and distraction of open offices comes precisely from how easy it is to "talk or collaborate with your neighbors".
"The important ones will construct sea barriers"

No the ones that can afford it will.

"sucks that the Midwest will become a desert but Canada is going to be a great place to grow things in 100 years"

Do you have some evidence or are you just assuming? Day lengths, and weather changes means it wont necessarily work out how you expect.

"Technology will improve if things get really dire"

Such as.... Because by then it'll be too late for solar, wind turbines, battery storage, nuclear, electric cars/planes/boats and any kind of carbon capture that's currently plausible.
On hands-on versus math, how do you approach finding the magic balance?

For context: Let's agree that MIT and Olin are both great engineering schools. One former coworker of mine is a senior Mech E who graduated from MIT, who once said something along the lines: "I've never hired an MIT grad who could not do the math, but sometimes they needed to learn good bench skills on the job. I've never hired an Olin grad who didn't hit the ground running in the lab on day 1, but sometimes they hit resistance with the math." So even with four years and a demanding pace, it is still hard to do both well. What grounds your thinking on this topic?
This is cool. And yes for those considering "serverless" those latencies are real world typical even apart from cold starts ;)

I use httpbench quite a bit. It's replacing CLI tools like ab, siege. And you get programmatic access to concurrent loads.

Building an enterprise-grade front end could actually generate real customers. Is there any chance you'll provide an interface that allows anyone to run any arbitrary uploaded code for testing performance?
Nobody who has read anything serious about ISIS would think that. They were a nascent nation state, installing their own civil servants to run schools, infrastructure, etc. Their propaganda videos were nearly Hollywood level in production quality. They were barbarians in values, not capabilities. They were a massively serious organization and we got Mattis just in time to exterminate them.
"Shadowbanning on HN is mostly for new accounts that show signs of either spamming or trolling."

You routinely shadowban people you disagree with. Or post-limit them. You don't get to act innocent here when I guarantee you're just as guilty of these dark patterns as every other site.
City schools usually have no address requirements. Our school even has students coming from the next county. They can get a commuter waiver because the parents work near the school. since businesses pay the same taxes it actually works out better for students and parents. The best schools have entry requirements that usually stratify by race and class.
While I agree cubes are worse, they aren't worse for noise and distraction. The felt walls absorb quite a bit of sound and reduce the audible range of a conversation. WeWork offices, on the other hand, are the complete opposite with their reverberating glass/hard-floor designs.
In my city, mid-sized city in a larger metropolitan area with a few million people, I tried to work at one of the We-Work type places and found it completely overpriced.

If I can work from anywhere, then I don't see the advantage to renting an office for the day. The real appeal for an office is that you can leave stuff there and use it for a multitude of things. We-Work type places seem to be good for one thing, giving a desk to remote workers that don't like working at coffee shops or libraries?

Do sales people like them?

What exactly are the type of professionals that like We-Work type offices?
> I don't have an issue with open offices per se

Sounds like you do. An open office would be just fine if I was the only one in there, but that is what is intrinsically bad ( or at least the main thing) about them. You aren't alone in there.
What a clickbait title and b*shit article..
A wise comment befitting an account with that name.
I think I'd have a less negative reaction to open offices if it weren't for the attempt to sell it as a productivity booster.

The article even mentions how they're "sold to workers as a boon to collaboration — liberated from barriers, stuffed in like sardines, people would chat more and, supposedly, come up with lots of brilliant new ideas". Thankfully the author also quickly refuted that. Yet the insanity remains, and people (often times the Agile evangelist types companies hire) continue to try to convince developers that open offices are good.

I could buy into it if the rational is it's far cheaper to fit more employees in less space. That's a fine reason. It sucks to work in, but I can at least hear that without rolling my eyes and dismissing everything else that person says as incredulous.
These really aren't idioms. An idiom in natural language is a phrase or saying whose meaning cannot be understood without someone telling you what it's supposed to mean (that is, you can't figure it out just by reading the words).

In programming, an idiom is a common, accepted way of accomplishing a task which you wouldn't figure out to do all on your own and whose meaning isn't obvious to programmers of other languages.

I suppose you could argue that certain idioms are more or less universal: using "i" as the index in a loop isn't obvious even if you know a lot of math (why not use j?).

But no one who doesn't program Python is going to figure out the first thing you do in any new Python project is write the line:

if __name__ == "__main__":
main()

The fact that it's impenetrable if it's not first explained to you that you should do that is what makes it idiomatic.

Idiomatic also means particular to a specific person or group. If your website is based on comparing the same idiom in multiple languages, that's a good indication it's not actually idiomatic. That's probably just a common task.
No, the no devices policy would have been there from the start, its as basic as forbidding open flames at a petrol station.

The need for X-ray machines due to tourists ignoring the ban is a more likely development.
I disagree.

The headline photo looks claustrophobic -- we aren't sardines -- but I'm a fan of the "team pod" setup.

The primary alternative--the high walled land of cubicles--is a depressing, lonely world. Yes, I get pulled out of flow more often than I would if I had an office or a cube, and I'm occasionally annoyed by chatter, but I'd rather have some humans to coexist with and occasionally interrupted than depressed and flowing.
I think we also need to get away from the idea that the only reason there are people excelling at squeezing every bit of latency out of an embedded system is because they went to a 4-year school. There are so many people who go get an associates because their career isn't going anywhere. So they go get a bachelor's because their career isn't going anywhere. Then they go get an MBA because their career isn't going anywhere. And then they're posting on LinkedIn looking for better offers, covered in debt, and think we should make degrees appear to be a costless decision. A degree doesn't change your personality, and sometimes that's the problem. We think too highly of degrees in too broad a context and think degrees === qualifications.
Is it? That definition of property worked pretty well. Try and take it I’ll hit you, etc. Otherwise why pay for it and why not just take it by force?

Just a matter of time before these companies get too greedy and get hit with violence.
Regress to the mean.
I agree to an extent. I think remote work is a swing in the opposite direction of open offices, but it can go too far. Remote work does not allow developers to collaborate easily; sometimes getting several people at a white board is necessary and efficient. Offices or very small cube farms (of 4-6 people in an enclosed area) seem an ideal middle ground where people working on the same thing can talk while not being bothered by others that have nothing to do with their current team/task.
I never see this mentioned, but one of the things I hate most about open offices is having people always looking at my screen. To be clear, I don't waste much time. Does this bother any one else as much as it gets to me? Regardless of what I'm doing, I'm not comfortable being constantly observed doing it. I previously worked in an open office where the manager would basically creep up on people, walking quietly throughout the office and looking to see who was doing what. Creepy as all get-out.
A friend of mine after moving several times discovered it was cheaper to just throw away all the furniture (i.e. give it ot Goodwill) and buy new at the new place than ship it.
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A friend ended up at a company like that and for every other reason I'd be happy to work there... but I just don't think I can do the mass of humans and my desk is now cluttered because I have a drink on my desk ...
There are nails from Vikings found in pre-coloumbian US. Happy columbus day
The gravity field of a spherical object only depends on its mass and not its density/radius. So for the Roche limit only the density/radius of the object at risk of breaking apart (called minor object on wikipedia) (earth) should matter, not the one of the major object (black hole).

Wikipedia gives the formula d=R_m*(2m_M/m_m)^{1/3} which matches that intuition.
I just managed to quit Juul's after a ~5 year binge. It costed me ~60 dollars a week or so and unlike cigarettes where you typically go outside and make a little event out of it, these little guys can be huffed anywhere, so that usually causes you to build a constant huffing habit. Your entire day is constantly revolving around this little device, it terrified me to realize that I needed some external device/chemicals just to feel normal every day.
I agree with you reasoning. I think in the UK the term "working class" tends to mean something different from what you're describing generally speaking. By your reasoning I'd say well over 95% of the population would be working class. However if ask people on the street many would say they're middle-class. Some might even admit to being upper middle class but the vast majority of them still have get out of bed Monday to Friday and do something that earns money.
If you want to acknowledge that this is a totally pointless semantic argument, I'm right there with you, but you're the one who prosecuted that argument, not me.
As someone who started out working in an open office and now works someplace with half-cubes, I honestly prefer the open office.

The ability for an open office to foster pair-programming and intense collaboration was a real benefit, though it certainly doesn't suit everyone.

On the other hand, the half-cubes have all the same problems with regard to distractions, but are also major hindrances to working together in my experience. Developers are farther away, the space feels a little claustrophobic, and there are comparatively few good pairing stations.
There's a lot of hate for open offices, yet they're everywhere. There's high demand for developers, and accordingly, the salaries are high. Open offices mainly exist due to cost savings (lower sqft per employee), yet for most businesses salary costs will completely dwarf the cost of office space. Something doesn't add up.

Do places with open offices have a harder time finding people? I was trying to find some comparisons of average salary at places with open offices vs private spaces, but I can't come up with anything. Intuitively, I'd think the salaries would on average be higher at places with open offices, but perhaps that's not a consideration of most people.

How much more money would you need to be paid to make working in an open office worth it? Conversely, would you accept 5% less to get a private space? 10%?
Editorialized title: should be

Open Offices Are a Capitalist Dead End
Things can’t collide with a small object.
The first one I saw was wrong, suggesting map over list comprehension in python...
Kinda off-topic, but an interesting comment in response to a particularly engaging thread:

"Usually AMA subjects ignore questions that aren't softballs. Props to you for actually going through and answering. Thanks!"

Yeah, that's a really low bar. And sums up why I stopped paying attention to AMAs a while back. It's mostly just fluff and PR with an occassional Snoop Dogg gem.