skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Very interesting, thanks for posting! Do you have author or other details for the original source?
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I get 80 with this number. When you sum, remember to handle two-digit numbers specially, for example 5 * 2 = 10 as 1 and 0, not 10.
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Sono un paio di giorni che nelle community di sicurezza su Internet sta girando insistentemente la notizia dell'iniziativa di un hacker americano che ha deciso di pubblicare una lista dei siti governativi di cui è riuscito ad ottenere il controllo. L'iniziativa ha fatto molto scalpore perché la lista è pubblicata con tanto di prezzo a fianco ai siti "bucati", nel caso qualcuno fosse interessato a comprarli.
Yes indeed, and Wirify doesn't really help you there :) However here's some of the situations where it might be useful: http://www.volkside.com/2010/12/introducing-wirify-the-web-a...
if you use some kind of regularization (e.g., if you think the parameters are sparse) it's possible to fit to such a large space without overfitting. this is common in machine learning and statistics (e.g., "N less than p" problems, where N is the number of data and p is the dimensionality of parameterization, common in genomics).

also provided the test data (i.e., the data it's bidding on) is not used in training, this should be a fair(ish) test; overfitting on the training data should lead to poor test performance.

however it's not clear to me that the data aren't being used twice, and what machine learning is actually going on... so in the best of worlds it could be ok, but given the scant details it could be all bunkum...
Uhm, why mention Facebook if you don't list three features that are unique to Facebook or were pioneered by them? Seriously, invites, notifications and comments are hardly new concepts. They're good concepts, but they have nothing to do with Facebook.

If you want to mention something that was pioneered by Facebook and that you should copy, then it's the use of real names instead of usernames or handles. This feature is what allowed people to connect with each other over Facebook when having no other communication channel, i.e. reconnecting with old friends or classmates.
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Bingo. Well that solves the "none of my cards are valid" conundrum. Now I just need to work out why my mind isn't functioning properly this morning.

Cheers!
Moral of the story: When you get a phone call from someone you don't know, working for a company you've never heard of, saying they want to buy your company, be very very careful.
>>> There are women HNers too, but you don't hear them say boys are the highlight of the university experience. <<<

Thank you. It's just shocking to me that no one called him out. The very idea that the central purpose of college is sex, sex and more sex is just disgusting. I'm not a prude by any means, but seriously what is this guy advocating?

I know that this comment really doesn't add much to the conversation, but I just can't help it. This conversation is the last thing I expected on HN, and I haven't been around for that long!
It's a real disservice to Ive's career to equate it with someone sitting in on a calligraphy class.
I think you've forgotten to reduce individual sums mod 9 (i.e., by adding digits) before adding them up.

5658 4612 3826 9730 [original number]
10 6 10 8 8 6 2 2 6 8 4 6 18 7 6 0 [double alternate digits]
1 6 1 8 8 6 2 2 6 8 4 6 9 7 6 0 [digit sums]
16 18 24 22 [sums of groups]
80 [overall sum]

Of course you don't need to bother with the sums-of-groups step; that was just to make it easier for you to notice if I made any mistakes.
The broader aspect here is what is going to happen to Facebook in the longer term? Shaky Governments now must be getting very worried about this type of political activism - an entire nation can be turned around with hardly anyone marching in the streets. Or a large protest could be organised as a kind of flashmob. While it's not Facebooks problem - only one Government has jurisdiction over Facebook - I'm wondering where this will all lead to. I know I'm not the first to ponder these things, but I can't help thinking this is either a great force for good, or something that could easily be used against people. A small government like the one of Tunisia is pretty much powerless against facebook unless they turn off the entire internet in their country. And that's not likely to win friends. Just blocking the facebook IP would be bypassed easily and would spread in a viral way.

As for the anonymous activism - the power with Facebook is the real identities attached. People believe it because they know and trust the people sharing the news and images. Twitter tends to degenerate into a retweeting mess of platitudes around any major news event, and the anonymous nature of most tweets makes exaggerations and rumors spread like wildfire.
Users who are smart enough to trade those lists (and care), are probably already using ad-filters.
Great post, I'm trying to do the same, Its a really hard to make decision to quit day job and work on startup, especially if you are working in a good company and benefits, working on the side until the startup is profitable/raise money is the way to go.
They're generated independently of the card number and, in principle, known only to the card issuer and verifiable only by asking them. Merchants are supposed never to record them.

(They don't really need to be independently generated for each card; instead they can be computed from the card number, expiry date, etc., using a secret key known only to the issuer and some cryptographic magic.)
That's just an instance. I've always received great support and answers to my questions.
You sound like the epitome of a hormonal teenager. I know this was an ad hominem, but seriously is sex more important than doing great work? Really?

Moreover, what happened to love and quality relationships? What I'm getting across from your comment is basically mindless one nighters and the entire getting laid gig. Sure there are some places on earth where it's better to do that, but love, true love, can blossom anywhere you go.

Further, your comment is the most disgusting thing I've ever read on HN. It's crass in all of the wrong ways and it reads like some 14 year old on steroids wrote it. If your self worth is determined by how many women you take to bed then, trust me, you will be a lonely man indeed.

That said I really hope that I misread your comments.
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> doesn't mean you know shit about what it takes to build a successful social network

I am having a Digg feeling as I read these threads.

I also believe very little of the success of Facebook comes from the people who work(ed) on Facebook. Facebook's value comes from its user base, as does its success. Facebook got good enough at just the right time while lots of others failed to attract users. To claim its designers had some secret insight on how social networks functioned that was high above the level of understanding of others is risky.

BTW, there's just too much drama here.

And, before anyone asks, I didn't go to Harvard either.
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While I don't find qwiki to be a good way to present data at all and it doesn't add anything for me to say this comes anywhere close is silly, it really proves about as much as someone whipping up a stack overflow clone with a question list with tags, badges and logins over a weekend.

As an aside, qwiki decided it would be good to start spamming out qwiki of the day to my email. Guess that is an opt out rather than an opt in....
I have a bit of a problem with the description of the hack as "The software was basically a country-level keystroke logger"

I think this is unnecessary dumbing down.

For most readers who already knows what a keylogger is, it should be fairly obvious to them that this is not what they were doing.

For any reader who does not know what a keylogger is, describing the hack as being like a keylogger is not going to help them understand.

Furthermore, if you are in the demographic that know what a keylogger is, but can't see how that it is obvious that is not what was going on here, it just obscures what was really at play here: authenticating over (unencrypted) HTTP.

The writer probably did not want to make this a story about authenticating over HTTP, but misdescribing a central feature of the story is misleading.
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1. What would be the best way to tell them, that I am going to stop working on their projects?

Just raise your prices to ridiculous levels and be really firm. That way you stay in good terms, because they will decide not to work with you instead of the other way around.
So Facebook now decide who spies upon whom?

Facebook spying, monitoring and civilian profiling for advertising and who-knows-what-else is somehow OK though?

Pull the other one. This self-sanctimonious crap is sickening hypocrisy.

Just imaging if an Iranian 'Facebook' pulled this shit is the US to stop US 'counter-terrorism'?
2 dollar millimeters? Is this "mm" some odd Americanism?
Yeah, that's the horrible curse of the anchor tag.
1) If your contract allows you to, just tell them to seek another company. You can also, as davidj pointed out, just raise your prices to levels they won't pay.

2) See #1

3) Experience. Like you said, it looked fishy from the start. If it looks fishy, that's because it probably is.

4) You can offer those who are programmers work or classes, but it's not really your fault a client of yours is less than ethical.

Many years ago I wrote an article for a local magazine that motivated me to start a blog. A company much like this one called me and set up an interview. I noticed the fishiness right away and played along for a while and, then, wrote the article.

If you have the stomach for a Google translated version,

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&tl...
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I also started Ruby and RoR in parallel 3 weeks ago. Why? To build iterations on my project and to build additional smaller projects.
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Why worry so much? Just show your standing, send them an email saying your work ethic does not match with theirs and you will not do any more work for them. Don't get into a deep discussion on what is wrong, in fact its not a good idea to judge them, so cut it short. If you couldn't spot it this time no worries, people make mistakes. There are many people out there like this, you will get it right the next time.
This is brilliant. I had an idea floating around in my head in December for something similar - capturing data points on a daily/bi-hourly etc basis onto a spreadsheet of sorts and using Rstats to output some analyses on them.

There's definitely a market for this should you want to go commercial, but if you don't, would you mind sharing some of the formulae?
Or insist on an all-cash deal.
The simplest bio of the author:

http://apps.thestreet.com/cms/rmy/biography.jsp?authorId=100...
Sentences such as:

There were companies going public then with zero dollars in revenues that were now worth over a hundred trillion dollars.

and

Jerry Levin might very well have been at the table next to us buying AOL right in front of our eyes.

Make me cringe.

Am I being an idiot to assume that anyone with this kind of success (sure, this story didn't end well for him, but still extremely successful in his attempts to bring in money) ought to be able to write it up in such a way that it doesn't read like a schoolboy's work of fiction?
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I've tried using it, but I couldn't find any way to validate the data against information on my own servers (ie for unique email address), so it felt like I was giving up some important functionality.

I was impressed with how straightforward it was to get running though.
I'm in Tokyo myself and this post made for some very interesting reading! Even though I want to be in Tokyo my biggest problem in thinking about startups is a reason to be here as you said.

You should come to the hacker news meetup in February! I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love to meet you guys!
How can this possibly work for blind people? Facebook is already pretty inaccessible but this seems utterly impassable.
No. It's a financial thing. It looks odd to Americans too.

And BTW, you could have googled that yourself in two seconds.
Yes it certainly sounds like a fiction, but it's really entertaining. I've found the plain bio of the guy here:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2134825

If anybody knows something useful apart from what he wrote about himself:

http://www.jamesaltucher.com/about/

please add here.
MM is widely used within the finance industry to mean million(s).

It comes from Latin "Mille" meaning "thousand", so MM is a "thousand thousands" which equals one million.
Where do you get-off with your psycho-babble?

Darwin? PULEASE. So many holes -so little time. Still inferred as fact in your statement.

Guess you like the coke-fiend-Freud's take on reality also.

Reality check. These hypothesis are JUST THAT! I have successfully mated without 'employing' any 'strategies' whatsoever.

Opinion FAIL!
We don't have any kind of contract.
I think, in this case, 'yield' is being used less in the sense of a street sign, and more in the sense of crop yield.
There's a contradiction in terms in what you've just written.

There will never be "millions of legit e-commerce consumers" from Nigeria if the main e-commerce gateways such as PayPal continue to block the entire country.

They've already been excluded before they've started.
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I don't really think you can legitimately take revenge on them or sabotage the site in any manner. Plus they will keep on building these sites, with or without you. If you are lucky, there may be some procedure in your country for reporting them.

Really all you should do is just write them a letter stating that you feel you can no longer work for them and you disagree with their business practices. Something professional and polite.

Once you have made your position clear and walked away there should be no reason for them to bother you afterwards. If they do you should just ignore their emails/calls.

Can you really spot people like this in the future? As you've stated above, there were some suspicions but nothing concrete and you did your research and found nothing. Did you look up their names as well as their company name? Often or not they'll just start a new company when one gets a bad name but you might find mention of their names with previous ... activities.

They lied about their original intent, perhaps they knew you'd get cold feet if you knew their business plan. So perhaps they'll not be surprised when you stop working for them.
Yeah I don't want to get into a deep discussion. But, If I tell them the reason, they would probably come up with all sorts of explanations or get defensive and ask me how I came to that conclusion and all. I don't know if there is a way in which I can get it done and over with without a prolonged discussion.
Unfortunately, as much as I'd like to just ban them, I've totally gotten answers to questions from there before (at first using Google cache, until someone showed me the now-stupidly-obvious-in-retrospect scroll-down-to-the-bottom technique), so I know banning them from my listings will make my life slightly worse, and I can always ignore them.

Which, I guess, is a mindset that I think generally makes this concept not terribly useful: you can always personally ignore some domains that suck. The real issue is how many places have duplicate content, or even stupidly "reblogged"/"syndicated" content, that show up when you search for something: the domains for that are often very search-specific.
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It's not a scientific metric; I did preface this by saying that "bloat" is a subjective term. But LOC of the codebase is a pretty good rule-of-thumb metric; I'm not pretending any more credibility than that. It's not hard evidence, but it is an indicator (and I chose the word carefully) that the codebase may be trying to do more than it ought to. It is an indicator in the same way that fatigue and a rash around your joints are indicators that you have strep throat, but the evidence would be the presence of some strain of streptococcus in your blood. There's no line of code that one can point to and say "Hey, that conclusively proves bloat."
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It's a field too vast to be treated in 3-4 pages.

It would have been interesting to look at the varying competing designs for graphics cards and how the Microsoft-driven DirectX eventually won.
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"...if you have to raise thirty million to start your business, its probably not a good business (at least for me)."

I've lost count of the number of articles I've read saying "Startup XYZ Inc just raised $X million!" and a dearth of the "Startup ABC Inc made $X million profit on revenues of $Y million" kind.

It's refreshing to see an article on HN that points out the obvious: if you have such a good business, why doesn't it make any money?
Don't enter a discussion with them. As andyn said, send them a letter; if they argue, don't bother arguing back, just ignore them to the best of your ability. If you have no binding contract, you are under no obligation to continue working for them, nor are you obliged to explain why you refuse to work for them.
It is very poor security to teach your users to enter their passwords on HTTP pages. Even the small minority of technical people who check the page uses HTTPS when it posts the form do not check it every time they use the page.
Do it objectively. Find and focus on undeniable reasons, not your gut feeling.

"I don't like your ethics" is subjective and is asking for confrontation.

"The number of complaints registered against you is x and it harms my company to be associated with that. So it's a shame, but we're not going to be able to sign contracts for further work. Don't worry, we'll finish what we've already agreed to do so far but after that we're going to have to call it quits" is objective.

Note that you're not judging them, nor are you even implying that the complaints to be valid. It's just a business decision based on the number of them, and who can control that?
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Ouch. This isn't good. This is worse than a written contract, because you may have an implied contract, the terms of an implied contract are (obviously) implied, and you may find yourself in a disagreement about the existence of an implied contract or what those implied terms are.

Tread carefully.
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The story's "Everybody says Twitter played a huge role, but really Facebook's role was bigger" angle suggests that Facebook PR played a big role in pushing this one.

This is not to take away from the truthfulness of the story or the awesomeness of Facebook's response. In fact, given how prominently Twitter has featured in stories about the Iranian revolution et al, this is to be expected.
Articles do not get written unless the company pushes for it. They need the publicity when they raise the money, not when they are making money. Its quite simple, really.
They don't have to report that sort of thing until they're public, correct? That might be part of it.
I was working at a video streaming company called in CT. They bought tons of bandwidth and had HUGE datacenters throughout the country. We streamed events live that had not been done before (Island hole @ Master's championship etc).

We started to do TV shows and movies (had deals with major movies studios...). We were basically Hulu in 1999/2000 but the technology sucked at the time. Our choices were Real or Windows format video. Both were bad and required conversion to that format which took a long time in those days.

$75 million in funding, lots of bandwidth bough, some good examples of what we could do, but ultimately we burned money like most did back then. We tried to sell but when the market tanked most suitors walked away and the company just folded. Great lessons to learn right out of college.

After that experience I wanted to work for a more stable company right after. Since I was getting married I wanted to work for a company making money and one that would weather the down turn in the market. I accepted a job w/ Enron :/ Anyone want to guess how long that one lasted? I still have option certificates for something like $62.50...yikes.
This still seem to be focussing on the he said, she said, no smoke without fire gossip rather than the more mundane fact that no-one gives a monkey's about the copyright infringement aspect of the case. At best this will confuse some jurors in the patent case in Oracle's favor. Otherwise, it's a non-event.

And is the headline intentionally misleading? "Device makers did include them" ... include them in what? Source tarballs? As far as I can tell they still haven't shown them on actual devices and Florian's referenced post includes the detail that the manufacturers custom build scripts still don't refer to these files (which is only reinforcing Ed Burnette's point that the default Android build doesn't include them either) so it seems unlikely.