skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The whole point is that Richard said she was unwilling.

Here's the context "...plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was being coerced by Epstein...".

Richard is talking about her being coerced -- to pretend that she was willing.

The witch hunt is taking the context (Richard presumes she was unwilling) and then twisting his words to make it appear that he said she was willing.

The moral dilemma is: is someone willing if they pretend to be willing? Let's guess she was paid to pretend to be willing (why else was she doing it?). Perhaps she was paid to be a honeypot (entrap someone by pretending to be interested in sex - it is at least plausible). I think we can all agree that the girl probably would prefer not to have to screw some random. Of course, any underage sex is breaking the law, and ignorance won't help you (in court or the media).

Richard's words could have been better, but the quotes in the public media (and you repeating the two key words) are clearly twisting his meaning 180 degrees.

> This is not the fault of the media looking for witches to hunt.

The media is at fault when it radically perverts meanings just to get eyeballs. Why pretend that there can only be one single canonical root cause?

> This is the result of a massively intelligent man deciding to spit into the political wind.

It seems obvious enough to me that Richard is definitely not "massively intelligent" when it comes to social nuance. We all have our strengths and weaknesses: many engineers cut themselves using their blunt EQ knives.
So do I. I learned a long damned time ago how counterproductive it usually was to butt into conversations to, "Well, actually..." at people.
Posted to HN 15 days ago:

A teen shared a video of her own legal sex act, convicted as child pornographer

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20854920

And it's especially horrifying because she got convicted because she wanted to try to stop someone else from spreading it all over the school. It was just supposed to be seen by a few close friends.
> If you start expressing opinions about how sex with a sex-trafficked child should be legal

Good thing RMS never did that then.

And your comment is a good representative of the modern debate climate: People will exaggerate whatever their opponent said, and they will assume no good faith in their opponents what so ever. They will not consider an argument something to be learned from, but rather something to be "won".

Getting someone fired over having the "wrong" view is merely a bonus, but a bonus the SJW-crowd loves aiming for none the less.

No wonder we're all getting dumber, when merely trying to have a discussion can get you fired. Of course people will stop debating, and stop gaining insights from that debate.
I don't see how that's materially different. It still amounts to "Stallman thinks it's acceptable to rape a child in certain circumstances."
Correct, conformity and intellectualism are not mutually exclusive, but they do approach orthogonality. I expanded on this point here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20992014
But you _don't_ have to go to the edit page just to copy a password.
So You Think You Dove the Deepest?
No way I could work without.
Despite all their shortcomings (and I have ranted about them on here a lot in the past), the seem to have close to a 100% occupancy in Berlin. It does often look like they are less occupied though (partial empty offices) because the claim of "you can easily move to a bigger office" isn't true and companies rent offices that are bigger than they need them to be.
> It saved me from having to live in a world with an overly powerful, not democratically legitimized financial entity

You mean, besides about 100 or so banks and trans-national corporations, including Facebook itself, that already exist? But yes, surely banning one more cryptocurrency out of over 9000 already existing makes huge difference. Not.

> Given the power cooperations already yield this is a _good thing_ in my view.

You view seems to be "corporations have too much power, so any action that hurts any corporation, even if it doesn't change anything and does not improve situation in any way, is good". This is not a very sane approach to anything.
This is definitely not the first time RMS has made damage to the free software movement by saying stupid things.
If your "inclusivity" stops at Stallman, it seriously lacks performance. You use the wrong word. What you desire is conformity.

edit: Additionally, because I think this isn't obvious here, Stallman opened up the knowledge about software to the whole world and put energy in keeping it that way. Anyone was able to profit from this.
I am sad to see the top comments on HN are whining about free speech. The guy is sick. I am glad he is kicked out.
He does not really say Minsky was innocent - he insists that what Minsky did should not be called 'assault' because this term is misleading.

[Update] In another place he does argue that it is not evident that Minsky eventually did have sex with her - from the deposition it seems that she said she was directed to do it and then the lawyer asks where she went to do that and she answers that question, but it is quite probably that she misunderstood and answered the question 'where was she directed to go to do that', and there is a witness who says that Minsky turned her down. For me this is a fair argument.
Not the poster but I’d assume that things add up between 37% top federal bracket, 13.3% top California bracket and 10%ish sales tax rate depending on where one lives in the state.

Those are top rates, unclear whether “over 50%” refers to effective tax rate once all deductions are taken care of.
They're breaking the CFAA, hacking foreign computers is still illegal in most situations. The NSA isn't immune to the law, it's just unlikely to be prosecuted m

So you think Snowden is a bumbling idiot yet he somehow faked millions of files detailing the NSA's misdeeds? I hope you're acting independently, it's far too depressing to think that you are a paid troll.
I think the idea is, let’s not revere or put in power people who do/say/espouse these kinds of views

Stallman is a legend, which means he has a great distance to fall. His point was lost in the fray. I wish he could’ve just kept it to a private conversation with a friend.

Obviously no child can consent to being pimped, for money or otherwise.
I think on demand TV works great, you want to watch a movie hit the remote and the cost will be part of your monthly bill.

If something similar existed for the web it would be great
I'm not sure I understand your point. By the criteria of traditional academic success, Korea would not make a "most intellectual" shortlist of nations, at least according to a fair sampling of unbiased individuals.

In fact, your point about academic intellectualism only gives more credence to the point I was making in the first place.
I was pretty lazy back then.. so frontpage was my easy way to manage links on multiple pages. But then I moved to dreamweaver after that and never looked back :)
Others have already mentioned clang.

Apple also open sourced their kernel for iOS/MacOS

https://github.com/apple/darwin-xnu
Both RMS and ESR are nut jobs. There are other people who can be better ambassadors for FLOSS than they are.
Coinhive mined Monero, which is ASIC resistant and where GPUs are only twice as efficient than CPUs. It's suited for browser mining. The browser shot the calculated hashes into a pool so it's not really about one browser vs. dedicated hardware. It's about a large quantity of browsers doing the work in parallel.
I didn't realize that measuring ocean depths was so imprecise at that depth.

Physically sampling the layers can help in devising speed and depth corrections. Many oceanographers also use computer models that seek to compensate statistically for the uncertainties. Typically, depth readings are assigned a margin of error.

In 2014, four scientists at the University of New Hampshire reported on a recent Challenger measurement. They put the margin at plus or minus 25 meters, a total range of 164 feet. Each depth measurement, they added, represents “at best an estimate.”
As other posts pointed out, I believe it moved from the compiler to Windows SDK, because it was not considered compiler-specific any longer. Not sure if that addresses all of the complaint. I’d be first in line to say that the mess Microsoft has in distributing proprietary tool chains and SDKs is pretty terrible. The fact that I have to have Visual Studio installed for certain msbuild features, though legacy ones, still bugs me. But then, it could be worse (see Xcode).
I agree with you here. Stallman's comments on this topic are characteristically appalling, insensitive and pedantic, but I think the headlines printed about him are inaccurate and malicious. These publications have no stake in the matter of Stallman's status at MIT save to entice readers with the promise of scandal. I'm certainly not going to defend Stallman's character, but I think the retaliation against him is disproportionate. One can't help the feeling that when it comes to this kind of scandal there are plenty of bad actors willing to fan the flames for personal gain. I would definitely call into question the motivation of the authors of the articles on this event.
Despite this, and despite the fact that I really dislike the modern use of the word 'problematic', I can't think of a better word to describe many of Stallman's statements and positions. For someone to be a community leader of any kind this kind of tone-deafness, even if only to politics, is unacceptable.
I'm not defending Stallman or commenting on what he thinks is acceptable or not, in any way.

But surely, if you are saying what he said is bad, it must matter whether he said some thing, or it's exact opposite.

Or is this the Schrodinger's cats of statements where it and it's inverse are both totally and equally intolerable?
I've read of cases where people haven't been able to have a neat vegetable garden in their front yard, or xeriscape with a rock/cactus garden. Strikes me as crazy.
I’m gay. Brendan Eich ACTIVELY supported an institution attempting to keep me from being equal. So yeah, if you have the wrong political views, like ones that consider some people unequal, you absolutely deserve to be shitcanned. I’m sorry if I have a hard time feeling bad for people like that. I hope we find and weed out every last bigot, because people like me have fought too long and too hard to still be subjected to this crap. We don’t deserve it. Nobody deserves it.
To be precise Stallman argues that lack of mens rea at least should mean that it was not 'assault'.

In another place he also argues that it is not evident that Guiffre had sex with Minsky - she says she was directed to, but she does not say that she eventually did that, the lawyer did ask here where she went to do that and she answered this question but it is quite probable that she misunderstood the question (and instead answered the question where she was directed to do it) and there is a witness who says that Minsky turned her down. It is a fair argument for me.
In a world awash with negative interest rate investments, even loss-making enterprises are worthwhile. This may be the natural glide path at the end of growth: redistribution.
I may be a little off, but definitely not by an order of magnitude. Even high-end hosting at a provider like Akamai can be under $10/TB-mo for such large volumes. And since you don't need any of the hundred value-added services that Akamai, Cloufront, Fastly etc. offer, the budget providers can go a lot lower than that.
I’ve always figured they wouldn’t throw so much money at it if it wasn’t working. I assume the advertising makes them massive profits.

I’m sure there are pretty of studies out there.
Any explanation of why slavery is wrong falls flat unless you examine why it has been a part of so many human societies for most of history. You have to look at why so many people supported it, not just write them off as monsters.

Inevitably, that requires you to play devil's advocate. I agree, it's callous, insensitive, and unproductive if someone runs around telling other people that he has the right to own them. I don't think we should encourage that. But how can you understand a point of view if you're not allowed to state it?

That's exactly the ability we've lost as a society. The single most powerful thing you can do to bury the practice of slavery and everything like it is to sit someone down and tell them to write an essay explaining an argument in favor of slavery, then to defend it.

Slavery has been justified with many arguments. Some race based, some economic, some paternalistic. But what they all have in common is that when you explore them in depth and you see where they lead, you end up in a dark place. A place you realize you personally don't want to live in, that feels fundamentally wrong and detrimental to all the best things a human being can be.

That experience is personal, it's transformative and it's how a person develops a fundamental sense of justice which they then carry with them for the rest of their lives.

I think there is a lot of really bad discourse out there about controversial and sensitive issues (for instance, very little good comes out of having this type of discussion on Twitter, where everything is a reaction and people rarely think before they tweet). No that stuff is not productive, but there is a way to have these discussions which makes us better people. They used to be the subject matter of high school Civics until they were deemed too insensitive. We have moved backwards as a society by moving them to Twitter.
FWIW, “bright and clear” means that a law is objective and unambiguous [1], not that it’s simple or easy to apply. These laws may not be clear cut in that there are many conditions to evaluate, but they are clear cut in that you can deduce with certainly whether or not you’re breaking them.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright-line_rule
> having substantial amounts of outside space might be pointless because you can't actually use it as you feel fit

While front yards might fall onto that, backyards are pretty much off-limits to HOA, unless one does things that inconvenience neighbors, like obstruct their view or keep animals that are noisy.
A single Percocet can be nausea inducing for a good chunk of the population. I think ~20% of individuals may prefer half a pill to a full one, and if they can manage with a lower dose it makes discontinuation much easier.

Certainly less useful for acute conditions, but for chronic multi-week regimens I think this could be a useful way to mitigate risks.
> The technology industry is taking baby-steps towards actual inclusivity and diversity of thought

So lets fire the guy who dares to ask questions about nuances of law.

Gotcha. That's clearly driving "actual" diversity of thought.
> Yes but these other currencies don’t have the possibility to be the most used and powerful currency for everything you do

Why not? There's possibility that everybody would start flying around so much that United airlines miles would be so valuable that people would volunteer to be beaten up just to get a chance for getting some. This is a very remote possibility, but nothing in the laws of nature or laws of men preclude it, so it's a possibility. Facebook currency, which doesn't even exist, has roughly the same chance to match this description as United miles. But somehow United miles is fine but Facebook currency is Pandora's box. Note that Bitcoin is not pandora's box, Ethereum is not, Monero is not, 9000 cryptos that nobody can even count, let alone track, is not, but most white collar, buttoned down, corporate vanilla safe cryptocurrency that have ever been proposed, the most soft target, which would be the easiest thing in the world to track and regulate ever in crypto history - that one is the Pandora box! How does it even make a little bit of sense to you?
I don’t follow apple closely, but isn’t this a new direction for them?

Publishing papers and sponsoring research conferences? My impression of apple research has always been to keep it inside and not really join the public discourse
Can I ask what sort of apps you were looking into?
Find a few women who've met RMS and ask them about their experience. For years I've been hearing stories from women about RMS that paint a pretty clear picture, and if you look on twitter, there's a number of threads about his abusive behavior towards women. One example: people kept plants around because he hates plants and that made it less likely he'd come around to harass them.

He's discussed his views on pedophilia for a very long time, and this was just the latest on that. It's finally the last straw that was able to bring enough attention on him for action to be taken. It should have been taken decades ago.
I found it actually quite hard to write exactly between the lines. I used an iPad, like you. When I upload the resulting PDF, it doesn't look great because the letters not on the same horizontal line. I tried to correct them and ran the procedure a second time, but it's going to take, in my estimation, at least an hour to get them just right. Not much for such a great tool, though.

But in general, I find it a bit hard to neatly write on the iPad. It doesn't matter much, I just use it to keep track of notes while programming and designing software. And I can read it myself just fine.

I think it's because the Pencil (version 1) feels more slippery than pen/paper while writing.

The advantage of writing on the iPad though: no more paper.
I don't think big investors are that stupid. They don't think an office rental business is a tech business, that's just a really convenient story to tell. Because if it's NOT a tech company, you have to look at why it's worth so much and come to the conclusion that all the fundamentals point to. It's worth a huge premium because it's getting a monopoly. My suspicion is that WeWork thinks that they can use their scale to drive their landlords prices down the way Uber does to their drivers, and jack up the rent.

"We're going to really fuck anyone willing to do business with us" is not a compelling story for a company trying to grow, but it's great for investors. Also, I'm not just talking about the landlords and customers, you better believe the plan is for the lenders to get pennies back on the dollar too.
Google Shutting Down Multiplayer APIs of Play Games Services in March
Well “child”, a 17yo woman doesn’t qualify as “child” unless it’s a curious legal definition.

These kind of comments are clumsy claims to moral authority, useless flame fodder.
If you're good enough at sales, probably.
Not quite true.

In Germany, having sex with someone in the 14-15 range can be illegal if the other party is above the age of 21.

Relevant passage in German, from the parent's link:

"Über die Vorschriften des § 182 StGB Abs. 1 und 2 (Zwangslage, Entgelt) bezüglich des Schutzalters 18 Jahre hinaus, die auch für unter 16-jährige Opfer gelten, können sexuelle Handlungen von Erwachsenen, die über 21 Jahre alt sind, mit 14- und 15-jährigen Jugendlichen nach § 182 Abs. 3 StGB bestraft werden, falls ein gesetzlicher Vertreter des Jugendlichen Strafantrag stellt und im Strafverfahren das Gericht feststellt, dass der Erwachsene eine – etwa mit Hilfe eines Sachverständigen – festzustellende „fehlende Fähigkeit zur sexuellen Selbstbestimmung“ des Jugendlichen ausgenutzt hat. Der Bundesgerichtshof hat 1996 festgestellt, dass der bloße Hinweis auf das Alter der 14- oder 15-jährigen Person für eine Verurteilung des erwachsenen Beschuldigten nicht ausreicht."

(emphasis mine)

To summarize: Having (consensual, of course) sex with a 14 year old is always legal in Germany if you're under the age of 21 and not a teacher or some such, and can be illegal if you're over that.
The thing is, this one statement is ... tolerable. A bit in poor taste as far as apologia goes.

But then to have a long track record of disagreeing with age of consent; semantic arguments about pedophilia; treating women with disrespect and general creepiness-- it eventually gets to be too much.

Any time you have to say this:

> Many years ago I posted that I could not see anything wrong about sex between an adult and a child, if the child accepted it.

> Through personal conversations in recent years, I've learned to understand how sex with a child can harm per psychologically. This changed my mind about the matter: I think adults should not do that. I am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why.

After having said this:

> I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.

You've really screwed up, IMO. https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html

That is, once you've fucked up with pedo-apologia a few too many times, maybe it's time to be really, really careful in what you say in defense of a colleague's possibly questionable sexual actions.
Pay-walled

Try this archive:
https://archive.is/XYUqg
GNOME, I knew it. Happy to use xfce only. GNOME is dangerous cancer.
AFAIK they count the entire processing fee as revenue. It sort of makes sense. If I were to make a service on top of Twilio and charge you 1% more than Twilio, then I have to count the whole amount you're paying me as revenue and the whole amount I'm paying Twilio as a cost.

That's just as logical as if I were to build a value-added service on top of AWS, or if I bought things on Alibaba and then sold them in America.
Right. Apple took the code from KHTML/KJS and wrapped it so it would work on macOS.
> You use the wrong word. What you desire is conformity.

This seems to be a pretty common paradox.

The people who promote "diversity" (and sometimes even diversity of thought!), never accept anyone who wants to debate the nuances of that concept, nor how that may best be implemented.

Basically they demand conformity to the one "diverse" view and their definition of diversity. You're either with them or you're "part of the problem".

You'd think at some point they would notice how they come off ass utterly hypocritical.
Legitimate questions to understand and active defense of a specific viewpoint look remarkably different. It’s possible to write in a way that successfully communicates something like “I want to understand racism more” and not “what if white people were like the dominant race tho?”
Except he did:

> P]rostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia ... should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness.

Here, June 28th 2003: http://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html

Or do you believe someone planted it on his website and it went unnoticed for 16 years? How about this:

> Many years ago I posted that I could not see anything wrong about sex between an adult and a child, if the child accepted it.

> Through personal conversations in recent years, I've learned to understand how sex with a child can harm per psychologically. This changed my mind about the matter: I think adults should not do that. I am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why.

Posted 3 days ago: https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September...

Does that confirm that he indeed said it?
You're going to have a hard time convincing anyone that women would have sex with RMS, let alone have sex with him on a mattress on the floor of his office. Jokes aside, this sounds downright unprofessional. I would have expected the institution to put this kind of behaviour in place.
Everyone put plants in their office to passive aggressively shield themselves, because RMS hates plants.