skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I get what you're saying, but minors can and do legally consent under various close-in-age laws, and the age of consent is usually lower than the age of legal majority anyway. I certainly don't agree with Stallman's comments, but the law is subtle.
If you live in Australia you would probably agree that thats not far from the truth either.
>That said, I think Stallman's position really is fundamentally wrong and problematic.

So you have the default opinion anyone in our society will have. I'm interested in what the heretic has to say why we are wrong.

However with what has happened to Stallman I doubt I ever will. A shame because something has gone hugely wrong when half of all children are thinking of suicide.
A lot of interesting thoughts there! Although I’m not sure all successful people are socially-distant or cold persons.
Minsky was a child molester. There's no way to defend that.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/foxie/id1369279200 check this one out
Flutter. It really helps me my daily life.
You can do many things at home without going outside.
Transactions outside can be done inside the house already.
Ok. I am not sure that I should be writing this response...but with the madness prevalent in the world today, I don’t care anymore that this is on some random online nook..because I want to heard.

To say that minors cannot consent is absolutely horrifying to me. I would have felt ‘raped’ of my free agency to choose if I had been told as a minor that I ‘cannot consent’.

I was a minor. I consented. I was a sexual being just as I was a human being. Minors have to do non sexual adult things ALL the time. I still see adults well into their 40s and 50s who are immature compared to me when I was a minor. So age is a non-factor.

While I DO acknowledge that child sexual abuse occurs as does trafficking and that paedophiles exist out there, when my thoughts and actions and consent when I was a minor is ERASED and my decisions deemed irrelevant, I don’t know how to feel about it.

Reactions in the exact order of how I felt when I read ‘Minors cannot consent’ : Confusion. Anger. Understanding. Annoyance. Anger.

Some minors do adult non sexual things and make adult non sexual decisions all the time..sometimes because they don’t have a choice. Why is it that when it comes to sexual consent, the same minor does not have any agency?

I am trying to understand. It is difficult for me to accept that I am a non-being as a minor.

Please don’t start a flame war. I really want to understand why this is so and communicate as to why the blanket ‘minors cant consent’ is disempowering and has not really made the world a better safer place.

I also want to know what is a better and more effective solution to child sexual abuse(or any kind of sexual abuse) to replace ‘minors cannot consent’.
I think there was more social pressure for him to resign from FSF, and more institutional pressure for him to resign from MIT/CSAIL. The institutional pressure probably wasn't as painful, but was more forceful. I think he'd probably been holding back the pressure he felt to get the FSF thing over with for a while, but hoping for the controversy to die down, but when he was forced (or practically forced) to resign from MIT/CSAIL it became clear he wasn't going to win, and he decided to get it over with. Perhaps he'll be sleeping better tonight.
What if he's actually incapable of ever knowing or understanding the emotional context you just described?
What I meant to say is, Fannie and Freddie no longer purchase subprime mortgages (not since the crisis). You’re citing numbers from 11 years ago, and the structure of the market has changed considerably since then. Subprime specifically refers to low credit scores (below 620), which is purely in the private market now since Fannie and Freddie no longer buy those.

Whether or not you agree with the risk assessment of lending to low income borrowers, it is strictly not the same thing as subprime lending.
From reading his comments isn’t he defending someone named Minsk who had sex with a 17 year old and didn’t know she was being coerced into it by Epstein?

It seems to be a bit of a far fetched theory to me that this guy would meet a 17 year old through Epstein and not really be aware of what Epstein was doing, but it doesn’t really seem to be a defense of sexual trafficking, pedophilia or rape.

That being said this is from my reading of the above thread so maybe I’m not getting the full picture here.
foxie, you're not competing with anyone https://apps.apple.com/us/app/foxie/id1369279200
Heh,

Realize I meant “shade” not cook =p. In any case, hopefully intent is clear.
>Now, can anyone ELI5 the high-level goal of this exception?

I am not a lawyer; this is my extremely limited understanding.

1. Normally the Apache license requires attribution, even in binary forms. We can't say "You said #include <string>, now you must staple this to all your binaries". libstdc++ has a similar exception to the GPL for the same reason: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/manual/license.html

2. Keep GPL folks happy :)
Evan You – What's Coming in Vue 3.0
An explosion rocked a Russian research facility housing the smallpox virus
i agree, but only at a high level, because i’m enjoying watching progressives purge themselves out of existence over having the wrong congruence of electric charge in their head meat
It's https://curvedns.github.io/curvedns hosted on GitHub Pages giving a (301) redirect. How did they get a header based redirect via GitHub pages?
FPGA Design Tradeoffs Getting Tougher
It sounds like Sterling was some cool work - too bad it didn't work out. If it's going to happen, I think it's going to require a non-iterative step-change to get it right.

A far cleaner design for the web would be essentially an underlying payment system that governs all web traffic. You would essentially be paying for bytes, at a fairly low level. The issue is, people want to be completely unaware of the payment process so that their browsing habits are not perturbed. And yet at the same time, they must be able to trust that they won't be hit with a gotcha charge from some rent-collector troll site. You can't have both without some level of oversight, or some seriously negative consequences for people who set their "tolls" too high.

One of the biggest advantages of pay-to-play is deterrence of astroturfing and spam. If it costs money to send an email, the losers are the parasites who send millions of unwanted emails at everybody else's expense. But for these types of second-order social effects to take root, you really need a wide rollout.

The modern-day web is exactly backwards - it charges bots nothing and real humans everything. When a website is starved for bandwidth because demand for the content is higher than the web's ability to supply that content, it just breaks. It becomes the host's problem. In any other arena, the prices go up, and demand backs off until supply returns. Having tons of people demand the content you're serving from your website should be a _good_ thing, but right now it means you need to scale or die and cut off your revenue stream completely.

If it were profitable to be able to serve web content to people, then the decentralized web would become an obvious and inevitable reality, especially over the final mile. Rather than having to sign up for Comcast, they would make their money invisibly, behind the scenes, through the magical internet currency that was used to pay for bytes. You'd never have to talk to some fuck about your xfinity account again. No website would ever have to think about how to pivot into profitability. No youtube streamer would have to shill for products in the middle of their videos - the fact that you're watching it would be making youtube money directly, which youtube would pass on to the creators at a far more transparent way. No more demonetization because some companies might not want to be associated with you. Everything would be better. Everything. Making the web free is actually part of what led to its zombification.
The line of Stallman apologists over the years is almost as long as Epstein’s.
Uncle Wong, 82: protecting Hong Kong protesters with his walking stick
I wonder what became of the Kodak block? Seems GE would find more use/investment for IP space than a failed film company (IIRC)...
I don't know, this seems incredibly web-centric, apart from a brief comment that "Microsoft Word uses your computer’s storage API to find files".

"The term API seems to appear for the first time in the article of Ira W. Cotton, Data structures and techniques for remote computer graphics, published in 1968. "
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interf...

Looong before the advent of web programming. I'd expect a more in depth discussion of API's to at least mention lower level API's like WinAPI, POSIX etc, and how higher level API's are usually created to wrap, or to aggregate existing API's.

After all, the vast majority of SOAP and XML-RPC API's are leveraging those lower level API's to begin with.
Yes. I used rapidapi initially (v1) and built my own api gateway to replace it (v2) earlier this year.

The api was launched in Dec 2017 right here on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15825900
I'd say the big difference is that the press is accusing him of defending Epstein when in fact he's defending Minsky. Of course people may think that's still problematic, but that's not what the headlines are accusing him of doing.
also, everyone wins
You can just go read what he says. No need to be so pompous about it.
People have to have a path to redemption. Stallman apologized and admitted he was wrong. Why is it not acceptable to make a mistake with words? Isn't it impractical to expect everyone to never say something they regret? These are words we're talking about. It's not like Stallman raped a child.

Kicking him out of FSF and MIT seems quite excessive for somebody saying something and then apologizing for it. Whether they are Stallman, a student, or anyone really.

Do the people involved at FSF and MIT hold themselves to the same standard they're holding Stallman to? We'll surely find out because humans tend to say a lot of stupid shit over the course of their lifetime.
Wow, this is very cool! Thank you.
Nobody’s burning him at the stake or putting him in jail. He can go on living a perfectly good life. What he can no longer do is act in a leadership role in the community and corrupt that community with his crap.
uber, lyft, to a lesser extent slack
That's taking what he said way out of context.
Due to its nature of C++ templates, MSVC STL source code was practically available to anybody. I think in theory, I could get hand on free of charge version of MSVC without agreeing the MS EULA then extract the archive, again without agreeing the MS UELA, and peak the source code.

In reality, I don't bother to do that and whenever I teach C++, I ignore MSVC and its STL. I'm willing to teach but Nooo, it's MS who prohibit me to do so.

Now I can't use that excuse anymore.
I don't agree with many things RMS says, but I am not a fan of this cancel culture where character assassinations are orchestrated routinely.
You shadowbanned me, which is unethical, rude and it should be reserved for spammers. I don't like you anymore, and I will remember that you shadowbanned me when deciding how to comport myself on my real account in the future. I will also be making a point of commenting more frequently to ensure that your shadowban has completely backfired.
You are bad at your role, you moderate with a PR motive, and you treat users poorly. Fuck you, asshole.
Page 7 of this: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6405929-091320191420...
There are different types of right, like there are different types of freedom. I would rather be Richard than any of the village idiots who are villifying him. I would rather be Batman and take the bad image for sticking up for what is right, and I would rather be Jesus than some moron casting the whip. There is unbias correctness and there is political correctness, libre software and gratis software. I understand, Richard. If only people were smart enough to realise they are villifying the best of us.
Ask them which have had more serious engineering attention, and they would say, "Mechanics, of course!"

And they would be right. Cars would be bursting into flames around every corner if they were built like software is today.
Er, sorry, no. A public mailing list is not the correct venue for this discussion. Supposing as you do that society currently holds the wrong opinion on "does sex with minors constitute sexual assault?", the right answer is unlikely to be hashed out on a MIT list for CS activities.

You also lend Stallman more weight than he deserves. His resignation will go unnoticed by all outside of our specific tech sphere and certainly will not "set a precedent that will absolutely lead to self-censorship" (???).

Should we cheer his resignation? It's undoubtedly a sad moment for him and his supporters, but Stallman's behavior quite likely has held back the FSF for some time. He's an ideologue, not a leader.
> Perhaps the "issue at hand" can be as simple as software for you.

Ok. You're actually right. I regret saying that software is the only important thing.

Honestly, I guess that part of my comment was a post-rationalization, but what actually bothers me is the hypocrisy of the media and society in general, because they don't apply the same rigor when an institution or person does or says much more despicable when they like those things. But that has nothing to do with this specific issue.

>the chinstroking "most plausible scenario" is pedophile apologia.

Nope, it isn't. Many of his comments actually are, but if you analyze the "most plausible scenario" quote, it has nothing to do with it.
Sorry, I was shocked and was reading around and forgot which article was linked at the top. I read this one:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/richard-stallman-famed-mit-com...
> Society can absolutely decide not every point of view is worth debating.

We could have decided that three hundred years ago too, in which case the divine right of kings would still be a thing.

EDIT: A lot of people seem to think that the divine right of kings would not have been a thing worth strongly defending back in the early 1700s - and certainly far more than they would have defended the rights of people in the west indies or far east to not be "raped and killed". Do you have any argument to back this up? Would bumping things to five hundred years change that?

If banning discussion of things outside the overton window wouldn't have had results you'd like then, why would it do so now? There might be reasons! But I haven't heard people bringing them up.
Their exact words are "court and science"—and the bigger point from the gp comment was about evaluating these things in the spirit of "scientific inquiry".
"Accountability" for an awkward statement? You'll have to excuse me if I don't think someone deserves a public flogging for poor phrasing and awful timing.

When you're talking about organizations that are CRITICAL to software freedom, I'd much rather have an incorruptible but thoroughly awkward ideologue in charge than an unknown quantity. Who comes next? Will they compromise on things that shouldn't be compromised? It's another thing to worry about.
Technology is usually just a means to an end. Unless IP is what you are selling, boring is great. I’ve seen SO many teams burn SO much energy on complicated stacks just to drink kool-aid. It’s mind bogglingly frustrating, especially as a contractor. At the end of the day it’s great for me: I get brought into shit shows to clean up the mess. But deep down, I want projects to succeed and clean/sound systems architecture is how you do that. Doesn’t matter if it’s PHP, Python or Java.

It hurts to see people continue to make mistakes over and over, so I’m working on a new website and series of engineering posts to help share my approach to a lot of these problems.

Any product I start building usually begins in Rails. React is great. Vue is great. It’s not necessary, good ol’ request/response is just fine. You don’t need a service mesh. You don’t need Kafka. You add that stuff later when it’s required... if it’s required. Rails can’t be beat for startups. I wouldn’t waste any time on a single page app, it’s a completely pointless endeavor unless you have proven traction, users, revenue etc... and can afford to do it correctly.
Stallman conjured up a thought experiment where Minsky is innocent because the minor was "entirely willing." That was the defense Stallman decided, even if those aren't his exact words. His exact words aren't any better then whatever the media decided to run with, at the end of the day his intent was identical. The headline could have been "MIT scientist says you shouldn't get punished for raping minors as long as they present themselves as entirely willing." Do you believe I have gotten that wrong? And if not, can you argue why that is any better than what the media put out?

If Minsky could show up to court for his crimes and he said "Your honor, I didn't know she was 15", he would still go to jail.
>I'd love to see pharma move towards a model where patients are started at a sub-therapeutic level to test for allergy, then have a urine test to screen for toxic metabolites, then pills are portioned in to small enough increments that the patient can gradually titrate up the dose: start at 1/100th a dose, if no problems go to 1/10, then 1/5, then 1/4, then 1/2, then 3/4, then full dose. If at any point the patient feels like its 'working' they pause dose increases.

How long would this take? It might work for some medications, but someone with horrible chronic pain might not want to wait.
He seems to have expressed a couple distinct arguments:

1. It isn't pedophilia if the person is sexually mature. Pedophilia is sex with prepubescent children.

2. He draws a distinction between statutory rape (can't legally say yes according to the law, but otherwise willing and sexually mature) and forcible rape (when someone says no). He made a point about how statutory rape wouldn't be considered rape if it happened in a different location (e.g. Italy) or if the person's birthday were slightly adjusted.

I agree with you that in the Epstein case you have a situation with a dramatic power imbalance. Stallman seems to consider Epstein a serial rapist (possibly for that fact?). He seems to be more pushing back on the pedophilia accusations.

Also - there seems to be a thread lost. It really looks like Epstein was a US Intelligence Officer filming powerful people having sex with young women (including foreign officials) to obtain leverage on them for the United States. This whole aspect of the conversation seems to have melted away in the various other controversies.
> and will RMS stop working on emacs and other software?

Has he still been contributing code? My impression was always that he wrote the first versions of emacs,gcc,... many years ago, and many other people have taken over in the intervening decades. I'm quite confident he isn't working on gcc anymore.
He is many things, and shouldn't have been in a leadership position for a long time, but he is definitely not evil.

I have a hard time even imagining how you reach the conclusion that he might be evil. Even the worst out of context headlines on his recent quotes just put him in the "gross" category.

I say this, and I'm very glad he stepped down. I've argued for years that he should have stepped down a long time ago.
The full e-mail thread is at the bottom of this article, in an awfully-formatted little PDF viewer. I suggest full-screening.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-sci...
added link above
Yes, will do.

Earlier this year I gave a talk to some college students, which has some more practice info about starting a small internet company:

https://broadcast.listennotes.com/good-enough-engineering-to...
I find the volume of the noise being made over whether or not the "entirely willing" bit was quoted out of context by the media for sensationalist purposes — which it 100% was — quite curious. To me, the place Stallman screwed up was in trying to quibble over terms in defense of a man who we have reason to believe had sex with an woman of an age in a jurisdiction where that might have constituted rape.

Because that's what it's about: he said, "But is it really?" — literally, in fact — about something which, for legal purposes, his opinion is irrelevant. To wit:

> Does it really? I think it is morally absurd to define "rape" in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17.

Stallman said that. He went there. He quibbled over whether something constituted rape, as if the Virgin Islands cares one whit what rms thinks of their laws. That's where he screwed up, and people in the thread said so at the time, too. So people now can try to make this shit-show about his being quoted out of context about "entirely willing" — which, again, it was — as much as they want, but that just won't make it so.

This is entirely about Stallman having quibbled over rape, not whether he was selectively quoted in the course of quibbling over rape.

EDIT: Phrasing
Here's a direct quote from one of his recent emails:

> “I think it is morally absurd to define “rape” in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17.”

Is this really a topic that "requires the disinfecting power of sunshine"? Do we really think we've gotten the topic of statutory rape so wrong that we need to rethink it from first principles?
It really isn’t. FB/Goog compensation is still the benchmark as far as industry comp goes, so a private co really needs to be convincingly successful to attract smart, high paid engineers at top tech companies. If they can’t then it’s a completely valid signal that something is up - either comp is well below market, growth story is fishy, management is weak, or something else.
How the hell are they paying that bill then??
Anybody used Pax gold to buy gold built as an ERC-20 token
The people he has abused and driven out of the community would have written some kick-ass software.
It’s the new wave.

Applebaum resigned with ‘a claim from an anonymous victim, which, was quashed by witnesses and alleged other victim’.

Linus got his wang cut by ‘women kernel developers thought it was mean’.

And Stallman lost everything for saying his opinion. Good times to stay alive, eh?
For the uninitiated, what happened with Guido van Rossum?
I think you are being very polite here. Fearing the JRE/JVM in this particular way falls somewhere between superstitious and ignorant.
I read the full thread, and I didn't see anything that I would consider "defending rape". It seemed pretty clear that he thinks Epstein was a bad person and that what happened to Giuffre is not good. The closest thing to defending rape is him trying to give Minsky the benefit of the doubt (e.g. stating that Minksky may not have known Giuffre's age or situation, and IIRC in her deposition she was careful to avoid saying whether or not she actually had sex with Minsky, only that Epstein wanted her to).
What youre looking for is libinput gestures [0]. Or just use keyboard shortcuts.

[0] https://github.com/bulletmark/libinput-gestures
"What you can't say" by Paul Graham is eerily relevant today

http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html
You're missing Zoom, Pagerduty, and Cloudflare which are all doing phenomenally well.
i have had endless shit to shovel at stallman over the years but this is just the tits, taken down over nothing at all because cancel-crazy moral panickers have convinced milquetoast moron administrators that “psychological safety” is something that hinges on people only professing approved opinions

eat yourselves, you progressive turds. eat yourself for my entertainment