skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> I actually heard a contractor say the other day, "five years ago everybody wanted Ember developers and now everybody wants React developers. I even have those old Ember clients coming back asking for developers to rewrite the Ember projects in React."

React came out a little over 6 years ago and Khan Academy started using it soon after. We haven't been itching to switch and, from what I've seen, there are _still_ a lot of people adopting it. Its model is working pretty well, generally.

I like that Svelte is taking a different approach. To move away from React will take something that's as big a switch as the jQuery+Backbone switch was when React came out.
Their mission statement.
It's a myth as applied to current law, since Section 401 of the current Copyright Act does not allow that variant any more. As the previous commenter said, publishing something in the US with an invalid copyright notice still grants US copyright since the US adoption of the Berne Convention in the late 1980s, but it does withhold the extra optional legal benefits which the notice provides.
LOL.

I am actually laughing here at this comment. 30 bloody meg.

Never mind ageism in tech, this sort of thing will give me a heart attack before I'm halfway through my career. :D
Not twitter.
Fantastic. Love the demo and the animation.
Such as war and indiscriminate destruction of our environment
I'm a bit older than you, and am really wary and tired of lame interview stuff too.
well i agree with the part about low wages; i asked an interviewer to show me an example of a real challenge they were trying to solve (or had solved) and let me take a crack at it. instead i was told, "no, no.. please lets see if you can write a function that adds these numbers..." my eyes rolled so far back into my head i just stared at the whiteboard and thought, so you want a grad who can do this with their eyes closed (they have a memorized solution that will in no way predict their ability to solve the real problems) but probably will do it for a pay grade just above "intern".
Whether or not whiteboard interviews make sense for programmers is a different question than whether or not they are intended as an age filter.
I feel like they should've just turned it into a feature. Remove the crashing bit, allow people to do the undo zooming. Not every bug needs to be completely fixed, and it's something game developers do too much. Unintended behaviour that has cool gameplay effects or are just plain fun are removed because the developer didn't intend it ... even though players like the "bug". It's one of the reasons why I really don't like Blizzard anymore, and one of the things the Warframe devs did really, really right.
In my experience, whiteboard interviews are absolutely a form of gatekeeping. Whether the firms know it or not, they are excluding candidates who would have succeeded in the role by including weird unrelated side content in the interview. As the OP rightly mentions, nothing you program on a whiteboard has any application once you are actually in the job. It can be incredibly frustrating to know that you can do the work of a job, but be denied because of an old superstitious test.

The only silver lining is that, ultimately, companies hire the candidates they interview for. If a company makes its hiring decisions based on trivia quizzing and whiteboards, they'll ultimately produce software that reflects that. During my last big job search, I eventually started asking upfront if there was whiteboard coding in the interview. I don't want to waste my time.
IMHO two samples isn't quite enough to form useful data. It's a rough trend, certainly, but more tests are needed to be sure.

Could be you dodged a bullet. Could be the interviewers were hungry. Could be they didn't like your clothes.

42 is not that old.
Literally only college grads are marginally good at that. Nobody likes whiteboard interviews and has to brush up. Everyone knows tech interviews are inefficient.

2nd interview in a few months you were rejected? The only ageism here is that you probably dont have time to interview at the number of companies that your competition does. Last time I interviewed I did 16 interviews in one month at probably a dozen companies, received 2 offers. There are some blogs posted here where people talk about doing many many more than that.

I would say whiteboards suck but no not the ageism you are looking for.
I don't have a problem with whiteboarding, I collaborate with teammates all the time to design rough sketches and even bits of code on the whiteboard. The only critism I would have is if the interviewer is overly strict on things like syntax and API names.

White boarding questions should be related to the fundamentals of computer science and programming. Trees, hashes and arrays have been and will be around forever, it's fair game in an interview setting.
I don’t read programming books (2007)
I believe where test-taker bots fail is if the question assumes human experience or "common sense". If the question starts out, "If you eat half of an apple...", the bot won't naturally understand "eat" in terms of what it does to an apple. It has to be programmed with some kind of model or heuristics for eating ahead of time.
Finally, this alternative addresses the eternal problems that has plagued electron with criticism for years.

Cross-Platform, Native, Consistent and efficient in both CPU time and memory consumption whilst applying the React styling into Desktop apps. Not spawning a instance of a full web browser.

To compete with Electron, some sort of migration path is needed here.
Why are you still applying to entry level dev roles at 42? Do you have a portfolio?
It's been a while since I read it but I think the book "The Firm" about McKinsey talked a bit about this movement and how business studies became a graduate degree.
With Uber tightening it's hires, the housing market slump and this... is the bubble beginning to pop?

All we need is for one big, big event to occur.
Some people legit just want a place to work. They aren’t trying to join a social movement or make a statement. They want to give someone money and in exchange, someone gives them a desk.

Saying we don’t need WeWork (or other for-profit cowork places,) is like saying that hotels should close down in favor of business travelers staying on communes.

There is both room for and value from both for-profit and non-profit versions of these things.
I live on 80 acres of treed land with wildlife. I have a kitchen garden that feeds me. I'm doing fine thank you.

But I'm hyper-aware of how my situation is utterly different from billions of humans on this planet, with little or no access to even a tree. Or opportunity to sit under it. Living in high-rise apartment blocks far, far from these imagined opportunities.

The world out there is more like blade runner, than a utopia, for the vast majority of people.
Oh yes... this is a really lame concept.

I want to work with people who are 'not assholes'. That's important. Otherwise, I don't care if they're just like me or whatever 'culture fit' means.
Virgin Galactic's Spaceport America is no longer an empty hangar
I said it's a useless definition, not an invalid idea. Being a central concept does not mean it's not esoteric.
Startup Jobs: 30 Fast-Growing Tech Startups That Are Hiring
Didn't you post this two days ago?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20685049

edit: hn.algolia.com says you posted this two days ago...

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=q%20learning&sort=byDate&prefi...
Janeous
I don't understand why people are so addicted to their phones they literally can't even take 15 seconds to concentrate on pissing anymore.

In addition to that you're at a row of urinals with a camera out. It's just straight up weird to me.
It's tryhard to make people think that the vendor is/has something special when it lacks brand awareness.
Square’s interview was like that a few years ago. Even has pair programming with the interviewer. Most fun I had in an interview!

Still stings when you thought you had a positive experience but they didnt think so. Only other time I had that experience was with first dates that I thought went well.
Use frames from the same area over a span of time....

What's confusing? There's a picture taken every day.

If you're worried about the time span between the frames, I'm certain that shouldn't matter to the algorithm, it's just more noise and maybe the result takes longer to get..
This actually makes the most sense to me.
> There should be a financial instrument to bet against governments making good on their grandiose plans for green energy.

Effectively, there is: you purchase securities relating to the industries that would be negatively impacted if the plans were realized (e.g., for the things you are talking about here, coal industry stocks.)
I've still got it and I believe it's still got Wheezy on it. Last time I tried she fired up. I've gone through abut 7 Pi's since, but this one will never be re-purposed. This is it's destiny.

The coolest part about it was that the screen, computer, and battery were all modular with velcro and electrical plugs. So the metal case had the regulators and Pi, the black case held the batteries. In under a minute I could remove the screen and Pi from the battery pack and velcro it into all into my car.
You’re giving zero details here
aside from “i failed the whiteboard interview and it was horrible”

What happened?

Maybe it’s you.
Oh I'm glad to hear that.

BTW I'm pretty sure I simply just misunderstood their platform support page. https://forge.rust-lang.org/platform-support.html
"Experience shows that increases in productivity caused increases in living standards and work conditions across the board."

Only if you average it across entire societies. For example, living conditions in many peripheral de-industrialized areas in various countries often deteriorate for long periods of time while central cities benefit from cheaper products. So it's not just about "transitional friction" - it's huge swaths of society, in terms of geography and the population.
The contemporary "top" MBA is a class reinforcement mechanism, nothing more, nothing less.
I'm young and have also been turned down often due to whiteboard interviews. What surprises me is that you were only rejected twice in a few months. I had to go through many, many more rejections than that much quicker than that before I found a good fit. Don't assume these interviews favor young people, it certainly didn't feel like that to me. I think most places just want to reject most people, because it's easier to justify rejecting someone good than accepting someone bad.
I once worked for a place that explicitly told me not to do this. They also told me to test booleans with

if( booleanVariable == true ) ...

This was also the place that ordered me not to use LINQ statements because, and I quote, "you need to write code that someone fresh out of high school could understand". I don't work there any more.
The first sentence has its own bug. "there was a big filed against Outlook"
> nothing is particularly wrong with American business

I am in no position to argue and it is not my intention to do so. Instead, I have a question based on things I (causally) read.

For example, this piece from a conservative source: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/americas-mo...

Sample quote serving as TL;DR:

> In fact, the destruction of America’s once vibrant military and commercial industrial capacity in many sectors has become the single biggest unacknowledged threat to our national security. Because of public policies focused on finance instead of production, the United States increasingly cannot produce or maintain vital systems upon which our economy, our military, and our allies rely.

It is not really only about the military, but about a larger context. They seem to be quite concerned about the industrial base of the US, including in high-tech industries. In support of their point, when I look up chip manufacturing capacity worldwide - https://anysilicon.com/semiconductor-wafer-capacity-per-regi... - Asia is 75% and the US ~10%.

What is your opinion about the point made by the article? In the larger context, not necessarily the military focus.
Space Pirate Arena Teaser, Multiplayer Hall-Scale VR
Not saying that whiteboard interviews are perfect, but is there something inherent to them that makes them favorable to younger applicants? Your main argument to this effect is:

> Whiteboarding simply tests for skills that are not needed nor exercised once you're out of uni.

But I don't know if "whiteboarding skills" are any more useful during college either. Also, I always thought explanations were the crucial part of the interview, and I think technical explanation is an important skill.

That said, it may be a flawed practice. I'm open to arguments to that effect. But so is everything else[1]. I'm interested to hear some thoughts.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart's_law
I had read the book as well and I still had to watch it several times to appreciate all the nuance and really put it all together.

For example (warning: potential spoilers, though you'd have to be pretty super attentive to detail if you ended up noticing this the first time through the film):

https://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/91858

Fortunately, it is (or was) on Netflix so I was able to do that.

I probably watched it at least a dozen times and with every viewing I would still manage to find some new little meaningful detail I had missed before. If I can't find anything new that interests me on Netflix (not hard), I'll usually just queue it up again. Great film.
The whiteboard threads are always interesting to me because with more than ten years experience in software development in enterprise and startups now, I've never had to do a whiteboard interview.

Are they common outside the big six names? I.e., outside of Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and Netflix? I wonder what the actual percentage of "Needed to pass a whiteboard-based Q&A to get a salaried position" is.

From my viewpoint, having never run in to them, they seem like something that was much more popular in the past, but now rarely used or only used at the aforementioned big six companies.
Since getting an Apple Watch in early May, and discovering that I'm as susceptible to psychologically manipulative gamification as most people are, I've been doing a 30 minute walk in the morning to close my exercise ring for the day.

I have high blood pressure and take pills for it. I measure my blood pressure at least twice a day (just before taking pills in the morning and evening), and occasionally at other times.

My blood pressure has definitely lowered a noticeable amount. That doesn't prove anything, but it correlates well and I made no other changes anywhere near that time that would be expected to affect blood pressure.

One question I have concerns distribution. Does it matter if 30 minutes of daily walking is done as one 30 minute walk, or split into separate morning and evening 15 minute walks, or maybe even 10 minute morning, mid-day, and evening walks?
> Leave a comment there explaining the assignment.

Please don't. This is a perfectly understandable idiom in C. Don't explain the language in your comments; that's the job of a text book, which should be read by anyone before they read your code.
"You" in this case are a hacker / social engineer trying to break into someone's account. If your target puts gibberish as the answer to that question, here's how the conversation will go:

Operator: What is your mother's maiden name?

Hacker: Smith (let's say this is the real name, gleaned from public records)

Operator: That's not what I have here

Hacker: Oh, you know what, I think I just put gibberish when I signed up. I thought that would add some extra security, but I forgot what I wrote, ha ha, joke's on me. The real name is Smith though.

Operator: Story checks out, I'm giving you access to the account now.
Yeah its mostly a factor of what VCs they tap and their portfolio companies coupled with how a company spends. High burn high growth Draper Capital? Tech company.
"Not the right culture fit" is pretty much code for "we have reasons we'd like to reject the candidate which we don't want to go into too much detail about".

The vaguer the reason for rejection the more suspicious I tend to be that it's at least implicitly related to some sort of shameful prejudice.
I'm not a lawyer, but this actually makes sense to me. The copyright on the page is to copyright the page as a whole. When you update the page at all, the new page would be copyright when you update it, and while the old page was copyrighted before then, you're no longer showing that page and so you would no longer show the old page's copyright date.

As a result, the copyright became a decent heuristic for seeing how recently the page has been updated. Then I think some people, recognizing the use of the copyright as a heuristic, would then update the copyright without updating the page just to make it seem like the page has been updated recently. That's easier than actually updating the content of the page, and the only downside is giving your page a more recent copyright date in the notice. I'm not sure what this does to any copyright disputes though, but I think most people consider copyright disputes more unlikely than someone perceiving a page negatively due to the older copyright date.
I came from one of the poorest places in the world. I didn't have access to capital when I was born or young. I do have access now, and it's the ability to be a 'capitalist' under my own efforts which is responsible for that change.

This is why generalizations on audiences are pointless. Don't assume people are incapable of understanding an argument or empathizing with a perspective just because of their current place in life.
If there is a portion of a programming interview that doesn't make sense for programmers; but the results of this section skew the results of the interview highly towards recent college graduates, what would you say is going on?
The pattern has been established clearly with Uber. All the investors need to get paid off, so force the IPO.

Doesn't matter if there is zero profit and no plans to make profit long or short term. Gotta have our exit! The exit is the only thing that matters anymore.

It's appalling that the IPO market has been subverted into a blatant open air scam that our government deems perfectly legal and acceptable.

It's despicable and makes me ashamed to work in tech. The whole shell game around who actually owns the shares and controls things through multiple complicated legal entities is just another huge red flag. When this all blows up the only winners will be armies of lawyers who untangle this mess.
After working with people in Taiwan for the past two years: I love the creativity coming out of there.

Compared to mainland China, people in Taiwan seem more eager to integrate with the world. Open source is popular in mainland China too, but English is not.

This thing they're building seems awesome.
I have no idea what the colour of her skin has to do with this story
You’re giving zero context here aside from “there was a whiteboard and it was horrible.”

What happened?

Age has nothing to do with it - if you can’t communicate.
> This thread was about the term, and that's the definition. If you have to change it to "you'll know it when you see it" then perhaps the definition is not so useful. The biggest companies have started from the smallest of ventures so your personal perception of size and importance has nothing to do with the term's qualification.

You keep ignoring important parts of what's commonly considered the defining properties of the capitalist class, to make the idea seem less useful and much more slippery than it is. Or maybe taking that one sentence from WP as the entirety of the definition, period (though, again, ignoring important parts of that, even). I'm not sure you're going to find what you need to understand the concept, if you're interested, in an HN discussion.
This is awesome. I wrote a Terrain-RGB to greyscale PNG converter and would love to play around with this in a demo map for a 3D preview or something. How are you rendering the mesh in your notebook? Threejs?
>Lisp has a so called "no turning back point", true lispers cannot bear other dialects after experiencing it.

I can relate to that feeling.
> I want to work with people who are 'not assholes'. That's important.

That's what culture fit means. It's a more polite way of saying "Not an Asshole"
For those confused about the "29 MB": that's the size of the compiler itself.

A compiled Svelte app is tiny. Taking the TodoMVC demo app as an example:

React [1] : 289 KiB over the wire (decompresses to 1,255 KiB)

Svelte [2] : 28 KiB over the wire (decompresses to 41 KiB)

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[1] http://todomvc.com/examples/react/

[2] https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte-todomvc
I've had a bad experience with Gin and when asking about alternatives in a local Go meetup I was given the advice to use https://github.com/go-chi/chi or gorilla/mux.
Not just the SEC. GE could sue them into oblivion as well.
Some of the most impressive whiteboard/coderpad performances I’ve seen have been from middle aged candidates. When someone has been using a language for 15+ years, their agility and fluency in expressing their algorithmic ideas in code is incredible. Most candidates seem to understand and articulate a solution by the end of the interview, but it’s the fluent ones who can prove it with end to end working code.
And nevertheless we are forced to put an endpoint on all machines for compliancy reasons. The security/privacy beancounters at our larger customers demand it.
How exactly?

The above data shows someone clicked in a cell, and edited a calendar date. There's no personal data present there at all.

Even beyond that, site owners have a very colorable legitimate interest claim to look at site interactions in order to improve the UI.
Will the long term care insurance policyholders don't get screwed out of their policies if GE goes bankrupt?
An interesting model.

I suppose you could describe many groups of people as corporations by another name so I'm not sure how far that gets us, and I tend to treat groups of people large enough to have emergent behaviours as essentially amoral anyway.

Your market share comments are interesting. I remember Matt Levine making an observation about Uber's 'contractors', if they attempted to unionise could be guilty of price fixing, because they're supposed to be competitors. The corporation seems to be another step along where price fixing within the corporation is allowed, and the union goes a step further again by making monopolistic behaviour ok.

As a society that has decided that a corporation can decide how to organise itself and work together internally, but also a society that has decided that monopoly, or at least the abuse of that monopoly is wrong, these seem to be interesting exceptions.
Eating rotten carrots is pretty good.

A single data point is not authoritative, but my comment shows a pretty solid trend toward "pretty good." I expect you'll run out to go find some rotten carrots to eat now?
"The downside is that Google owns you."

I think it is more of a question of who/what the actual product is.
Or her gender. Or her size?
This is literally the first time anyone has ever put together a cogent argument for why the framework du jour exists. Thank you!

I still personally feel like I can usually get more done with pure Javascript but, as I said in my original post, at least they appear to be headed in a better direction. I did a project in Vue last year and it didn't entirely suck. Unlike the nightmare that was an Angular project I did two years ago.
> What if I want to see:
If my cleaning person is stealing?*

Use your camera. The status light doesn’t disable its ability to record and transmit video. You want to record these people without their knowledge. That is just wrong.

More fundamentally, change the people you interact with or your relationships with them.