skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Would we say, well, no we can’t sensor that, that would be government censorship?

... yes? We would say that.

That's exactly how we draw the line now. For example, nobody would demand a stadium offer naming rights to the KKK, but the state of Georgia had to allow that organization to "adopt a highway" under its charity-for-recognition program (https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/us/georgia-kkk-adopt-a-highwa...).

Ultimately, there is no uncontested free speech right in private conduct. If I am exercising a speech right to (say) rent a billboard for an advertisement, then the owner of that billboard is also exercising one if they give me a discount because I'm advertising kittens for adoption.

Once the government gets involved, however, it is often acting with the force of law. That is where we deem free speech rights to be sancrosanct.
Maybe they expect better from a company like Google, but people need to be reminded that HR protects the company, not its employees. While still risky, it's often safer to complain about someone's behaviour to their manager instead of HR.
Animated images and videos of prepubescent girls having sex may be distasteful, but under US law it's not considered child pornography.
Except we only apply that thinking to things we don't like, and that varies from individual to individual. If alcohol results in more deaths than hate speech, do we ban bars? Or do you think you should be allowed to make grown-up decisions because you're not the one killing people?

edit: And to be clear, I fully support a private company's refusal to do further business with 8chan as much as their contract allows. But I tire of these arguments about how somebody died, so we have to do something, and ignoring all further reasoning.
I'll get hate for this, but whenever things like cell service are suddenly shared with millions of people more, the connectivity is stressed out. Companies like AT&T spend at least 1.5 years from the planning of a tower to it's completion, so reliable growth models are required.

Sudden population influxes produce problems.
It's the same phenomenon as mold. Everything that doesn't like toxicity flees, leaving only those who get trapped and turn into the toxic mold.
I'd say HN's language on Rust and functional uses far less radical language - no one here call PHP developers sub-human. Nevertheless, my attitude towards both Rust and Haskell has softened over time.
Too bad this isn't censorship. This is a private company deciding it is unprofitable to do business with somebody.
With these prices it looks like they're not targeting cubesats, which I'm sure is a relief to the existing rideshare companies. It will be interesting to see how good they are at launching on time. Since SpaceX can shift around Starlink launches to help their schedule, they might have a bit of an advantage over conventional rideshare companies.

>For payloads who run into development or production challenges leading up to launch, SpaceX will allow them to apply 100% of monies paid towards the cost of rebooking on a subsequent mission (rebooking fees may apply).

Without knowing the magnitude of the rebooking fees this isn't a very informative statement.
Not a lawyer. But I don’t think it’s protected when it’s said with such specificity. “I hate ethnicity <X>” is probably protected.
> Rather, it's that no man is fit to play the censor

I agree with this, and I'd further say that no man is really fit to rule or have real power over his fellow men. But human society can't function, or defend itself from tyrants, without some sort of power structure. The best we can do is try to make sure that the people in power aren't tyrants.
Is the 6MB/s or 6Mbps? Is that the average or minimum guaranteed?
If he changes it to "The Quran says the most evil of men are the Jews that all of them will be killed in the final battle"?

protected speech?
Don't shout please.

Nasty people do exist in any environment, but in just the same way that network effects can enormously magnify things like charitable fundraising or the production of cat memes, they can also amplify the production of terrorism or other undesirable activities. Damaging social infrastructure which allows that is an effective way to impede recruitment and organization.
CloudFlare is providing a basic service that the government should be providing itself.

If colleges need to guarantee first amendment rights since they are partially government funded, and the Internet itself is partially government funded, then I think there is a decent case for the government being required to provide a public solution for mitigating DDOS attacks if the market can't sort it out.
> what am i missing?

The impact of exporting deflation across the global economy right at the moment it needs it the least. I'm looking specifically at the euro area, and what it does next.
The "8-bit breadboard computer" (https://eater.net/8bit) series is phenomenal. The videos are so clear and so well explained - after watching them I ordered the clock module kit, and now I'm addicted to electronics. Before, electronics seemed so abstract to me. After watching the videos and messing around with the kit, I was able to come up with an idea for something I wanted to make and then (fairly) confidently IMPLEMENT it on a breadboard.

Ben Eater is a fantastic teacher. You forget how different "knowing" and "teaching" are, until you get a great teacher!
Amazon offers (and I have) a store card that gives 5% cash back. I'd be insane to use Apple Pay there.

Anywhere that uses Stripe can accept Apple Pay, and the same approach from meatspace works in getting people to turn it on - get people to complain because they're missing out on their cash-back.
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I realized that seemed to be implied so I made an edit: "to reach them to talk".
Protected classes are subject to rules prohibiting the expression of hate speech, even if they claim protection for their hate speech.
I am saying. Like with NRA's second amendment, absolutist position must be taken since compromise clearly does not work.
I know this smells a bit too much like conspiracy bacon for many, but you have a valuable point here. At the end of the day, we're talking about an anonymous discussion forum accessible over Tor at the end of the day.

It's not just low risk, it's zero risk. There is literally not one single downside for a provocateur. The worst case scenario for them is that they fail.

That being said, this was not a case of a provocateur. The author went on a murder spree.
Seeing lots criticism in the comments, similar to the kind that Uber faced when they were a private black cab app — "Yet another startup to serve rich startup folk" etc.

I don't think it's entirely warranted here.

"Equity compensation" as a whole definitely seems like a large market (there are many many many billions of $$$ tied up in employee equity), and becoming the go-to experts on everything to do with equity compensation seems like a solid foundation for building financial services + products on top. I'm sure this can eventually extend outside of the SV ecosystem, and probably extend outside of "equity compensation" too.

Congrats on the launch, guys! Look forward to seeing where this goes :)
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> freedom of speech

duty of thinking prior
China is doing less propping-up of Yuan than before because its currency reserve was draining for years. The market rate should be even lower if China lets it float.
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> /r/the_donald is already quarantined

That happened because they repeatedly violated rules on Reddit, not because of their extremist views. Reddit was lenient with them for a looong time.

> We need to allow people on the edges of the spectrum to say what they want even if it is without merit

/r/jailbait was banned, but it was technically "free speech" and technically legal, so according to your standards Reddit should have allowed the community to continue to exist, right? (Even though it existing probably led to some deviant / reprehensible / illegal behavior)

But to me, it's obvious that that doesn't need to be allowed to exist on the platform. So to me, that means there is some line that we as a society draw between allowed speech and not. It's not codified in law, but it does exist. That line can move based on the whims of society.

Right now, at least in the tech world, that line seems to be moving in such a way so as to not allow right-wing extremist speech. And that's totally fine in my book - in the same way that /r/jailbait is rightfully considered unacceptable "free speech" now, so is right-wing extremist "free speech".

There are still places to congregate online for that sort of speech if you want. Or you could spin up your own server. It's not disallowed by law. But it's just not as accessible as it was before.
No they don't, WP sites left unattended this way will amass millions of posts pending approval
I’m not familiar with Popper’s work, but I see that quote (“tolerate everything but intolerance”) used to rationalize intolerance toward perfectly tolerant individuals. Any evidence that the target is “intolerant” suffices, no matter how tenuous or contrived (“an intolerant person once said a good thing about <target> therefore <target> is intolerant). This seems similar to the concern you expressed about the GP’s philosophy. Did Popper lay out more stringent criteria for what constitutes “tolerance” and “intolerance”?
I'm sorry, but are you really saying that Google and Facebook who have gunned no one down, is the counter-extreme to shooting folks up?
In fact, people were already talking about which sites to migrate to when 8ch was about to be shut down. It's very similar to the Southpark episode about Walmart. If you shut the platform down, another one will get big. It becomes a game of whack-a-mole and harder for the authorities to monitor. End users can migrate quickly., as there are no accounts and no authentication process.

All of that said, CF can choose to not do business with anyone, especially if that entity is causing legal grief for them and/or abusing the AUP [1] See section 2.7. Rather than censorship, I would call it PITA avoidance. I would not want to be the CDN for any of the chan sites.

[1] - https://www.cloudflare.com/terms/
Heaps not racist lol
It's not weird. They had to print many many CHFs to satisfy the demand for deposits in Switzerland.

They then exchanged them for the USD they now hold.

As for infrastructure/whatever, SNB then went on a massive shopping spree in equities, ~100 billion or so.

They must be the absolutely best managed central bank in the world.
>Popper's tolerance criteria, by contrast, seems clearcut

What is that criteria? Because I can easily see people disagreeing on what is and is not intolerant. Would you agree that saying that a baker in Colorado must make a cake for a gay wedding is intolerant of the baker's belief? Because I'm certain a sizeable proportion of the US population would agree that it is intolerant.
This is the PRC playing high-speed high-stakes catch-up to the rest of the world. China was nothing of any geopolitical significance prior to the cultural revolution. The colonial powers were clearly in charge of the world, with Portugal owning Macau from 1557, the British owning Hong Kong from 1841 and the French, German, American, British, Danish and Italians each owning sections of Shanghai in the 1800s. The French Concession being the best known.

At the time of the HK handover in 1997, HK represented a whopping 18% of all of China's GDP. Today, HK represents only 3% of China's GDP. This happened in only 20 years.

China is doing what I can imagine any other country in their position would do: take advantage of foreign companies using their discount labor pool to obtain the technologies necessary to first become self-sufficient and eventually to lead.

We're at a juncture now, where for better or worse, the US is no longer willing to put up with the status quo because the myopic policies of the past, focused on self-enrichment, are coming home to roost. It's probably too late honestly, whether American companies withheld the last few years of advancements or not, the Chinese have developed sufficient domain expertise to catch up and lead on their own in short order. They do have 3X the US population after all, and appear much more motivated in their pursuit of science and technology than the US is.

This point in history represents a number of long-term story arcs coming together at once. I'm not condoning it, there's lots of history here.
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Many stuff (including this Hacker News) uses protocols other than NNTP. Is there the protocol translator programs to use with NNTP clients?

I recommend to implement NNTP on your server instead though, but, if that won't do then the protocol translation program is the second way.
There has been a trend of Congress delegating more and more powers of legislation and enforcement to the executive branch. FCC, NOAA, TSA, CIA, NSA, FBI, ATF, DIA, USCIS and others are children the executive branch and mostly operate without interacting with congress. Agencies like FCC and NOAA actually have the power to make "rules" which we can be punished for breaking, and the system for approving these rules contains minimal checks and balances.
I wrote about some of the technical advancements driving these changes here: http://sethbannon.com/biotech-in-the-garage

Note: this post is 4 years old so somewhat out of date.
Thank you for the kind words.

If I may add this, I believe two forces are particularly strong when leading us to deliver rushed solutions. One is this expectancy of the market to ever grow, faster, stronger, harder. All. The. Time. The second is stakeholder focus on the short term and using estimates as deadlines to 3rd parties.

These forces get translated by business people into the classic 9 women can give birth to a child in 1 month situation which we can actually deliver because most of them can actually get even more value from being able to sell maintenance.

Hey, as long as lives don't get lost from shoddy implementations all is well; oh wait...
Yes and no. Broadband is really hit or miss. You can live on a street where half the buildings have access to fiber (and therefore triple-play gigabit for <40€/month) while the other half is left with piss-poor DSL, that isn't even sold any cheaper. (At least in Germany the pricing reflects the speed).

Mobile isn't terribly better than in Germany (there are still many areas with fairly poor coverage) but it's way cheaper, yes. For instance I use a French SIM card for traveling, since it covers the entire EU, EFTA countries and North America. Unlimited calls/SMS and 15GB for 15€/month.
How many people had to die on 9/11 to protect the free speech rights of Muslims? It is undeniable that those terrorist attacks have a direct connection to the ideas being spread by those Mosques. How many Muslims have "skin in the game"?
there is no free speech side of this debate. framing the "other side" as not being free speech is false.

the free speech argument is that racist assholes should be allowed to say whatever they want, but cloudflare or voxility or any other service provider should also be allowed to tell 8chan to STFU and go away. that's part of free speech too. 8chan doesn't and shouldn't have any more rights here than cloudflare does.
I have a small website. The spammers found it quickly. I added a simple form field eg "name" that was hidden with css. If filled in, the request was rejected, but with a 200 response. Spam disappeared instantly.

I did find out later that some legitimate users were getting rejected due to auto fill or something.
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How do you know if there are 1 or 100 or 1000s of such cases without actual data? Companies should be forced to reveal number of cases per year per geography. That'll allow me to make an informed choice when joining a company.

Also, its not clear to me why "HR will always help the company" has to be the status quo. This is an area where I would like the laws/judicial system to improve things.
No it should be secure by default and people will have to enable insecure features. It doesn't stop old software from working as the person will be able to simply re-enable whatever the insecure feature is.

However they will now be aware that said feature is insecure and should know the consequences of enabling it.
This website really impressed me - a lot of interesting stuff to read, for sure.
Cognitive dissonance. Look at the survival rate of Internet companies that were around then and of those that continued to exist after the dotcom bubble. Then subtract from that the number of companies that survived but weren't turning any profits, consistently.

Or learn how to use Google and pay attention to information that is handed to you.
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8chan never got brought down. They just got dumped by their ISP and CDN. They are free to start their own CDN and ISP to host their content. And if they cannot find a private business willing to peer with them, they are free to offer alternative access methods (dialup?). They can even go set up a booth downtown and hand out flyers with access numbers.

No free speech rights were trampled on, and no censorship took place.
Exactly. It is entirely within their right to choose who they serve, and should be so too.

Flipping the issue, wouldn't my freedom be violated if I was forced to serve someone that I do not want to?
We wouldn't tolerate the existence of an Islamist site that glorified and helped perpetrate mass incidents of terror against our society.

We used to, until quite recently. You could read Dabiq, the well-produced magazine of ISIL/ISIS.[1] They definitely glorified their terrorist incidents. With color pictures of their operations. All with religious justification. "Islam is the religion of the sword, not pacifism". (Dabiq, issue 7.)

Dabiq probably inspired enemies more than supporters. Dabiq says that there can be no compromise until the followers of Allah rule the earth. So ISIS could never have a peaceful border with anybody. On March 23, 2019, the last territory controlled by ISIS was captured.

8Chan is a minor annoyance in comparison. I'd let them blither and look foolish.

[1] https://clarionproject.org/islamic-state-isis-isil-propagand...
Tech like this https://smarttechfoundation.org/smart-firearms-technology/fi... ?
Like the lemons made by BMW, Mercedes and Audi?

No single person ever said "I'll pay a premium for an M3"!
The transferable nature of the ride seems like a big gamble pared with their statement that launches won't be held up by co-passengers. Guess they're just counting on the odds that enough passengers will drop out to make the launch uneconomic will be fairly low.
FYI looks like a typo s/equtiy/equity/ on https://withcompound.com/r/offer-letter
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Popper's quote is often quite misconstrued. Here it is, in context:

"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal."

He is specifically framing the issue as one where an ideology goes outside of the realm of debate and on to violence. So for instance an ideology that says 'attack migrants' is obviously something that should be suppressed because these people have skipped the whole debate step and instead appointed themselves judge, jury, and executioner. But, by contrast, an ideology that argues for reasons why unchecked migration may be unhealthy for a society and lobbies for according change is something some may consider intolerant, but is quite obviously not what he was referring to. On the other hand, he would certainly have been opposed to Antifa which, though ostensibly fighting against intolerance, have once again appointed themselves judge, jury, and executioner and have 0 interest in debate or discussion or their views.
I guess it would fall under stochastic terrorism, so the modus operandi is different (it doesn't need secretive cell networks for example), but it's not ridiculous to compare it.
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I don't know, but I have noticed two trends: for people who have worked x years, some have x years of experience, some have x times the same year.
Common economics as described by the news is entirely incorrect.

Trade is dependent more on environmental policy than currency ratios.

Tariffs reduce profitability of imports making them less viable for firms to use.

China’s success largely depends on low interest rates caused by the printing of money, not by a devalued currency which would be temporary as prices would adjust because as notathing says, there is international arbitrage in everything.
There is an important shade of grey between "clearly artificial image" and "real image", where "artificial but real-looking image" sits. It has the same normalizing effect as a real image.

Otherwise there's no reason to oppose real images, since the harm is done before the image is ever seen.
So CloudFlare gets absolutely no say in what they host and serve on their private property because of "Free Speech"?
Collecting 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyptian pottery and baking with it
Most concerns around a black swan have to do with leveraged loans, corporate debt, and corporate loan/bond payback schedules.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Datawatch/Swelling-US-corp...
1) 8chan richly deserved to go down and its a good thing for all of us they are down. Hopefully this stays that way.

2) That does not change the structural reality that a small collection of private entities can now act as gatekeepers. This is not a result of this affair - but something that already existed. Can we rely on this power always being used for good purposes? I dunno. If you deal with controversial stuff, better have a backup plan. Good thing 8chan were too stupid to have one.

Conclusion: the result is good, the path indicates some troubling realities. I often oppose the 'get a good result in a dubious way' method, but here the balance tilted strongly towards action. My tolerance drops to zero when it comes to terrorist breeding sites and the 'damage' merely shows us what already existed. There's an argument this should have been done much earlier.
Because you know better?