skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Unfortunately the greater population will see it as black and white. Cloudflare has repeatedly worked with gray-area sites and stood by their principles that they were neutral and would only respond to law enforcement. Their previous choice with the Dailystormer can be seen as an exception, especially with supporting material that the site was also blaming Cloudflare.

Making the choice twice now calls into question hundreds of other properties they work with, and may open the floodgates for all that criticism they have shielded against so far.
> I actually ended up having these on reddit

I am actually quite surprised how complicit the media is in not reporting what goes on Reddit. It's the one place on the "mainstream" internet I run into where you can see calls for political assassinations in default subs, sub-reddits devoted to theft, ethno-nationalism, terrorism, and all sorts of content that makes 4chan seem tame in comparison.

Then there is the huge cross-polination of moderators with radical ideas, who just happen to moderate radical sub-reddits and some prominent default/mainstream sub-reddits.

If advertisers only paid attention. If journalists only cared.
Ah OK, My bad then, thanks!
In every other, let's say, G20 country, someone shooting up a shopping mall and killing 20 will absolutely make national news - they will talk about it for months and it will be ranked "top ten worst news for $country in 2019", if not the absolute worst. In some countries (let's say, Korea) reporters will probably dig into the shooter's elementary school transcripts and interview second cousins.

In other words, if anyone is aiming for notoriety, shooting up people in Seoul or Tokyo will give you an eternal place in national zeitgeist, while in America you will be famous until the next shooting: A few months? Weeks?

Yet nobody's (thankfully) taking up the opportunity in these other countries. Certainly not every week, or even every year.

It's not the media. It's not attention-seeking. It's not games (duh). Maybe it's a bit about mental health, but other countries also have problems with crazies and they don't just shoot up schools and nightclubs.

Can we stop beating around the bush?
What happens if all other providers refuse you as well on same basis? What if Comcast refuse you to provide any internet service because they don't like your views on net neutrality?
> Can commercial businesses with deep reach, pricing power and critical function deny services based on their ideology and beliefs? The legal answer is yes and that only looks troublesome when you think of how tables could turn in future.

The people cheering this are also forgetting which political party in the US has the closest ties with big business. Needless to say, this will eventually come back to haunt them.
How about a background check and a mental check? Gun owners always call it a mental health crisis, so let's make sure all new gun owners are vetted and have to pass a psychological exam.
I disagree.

News reports what happened. These days people seem to see news organizations as the enemy or at least the news organizations they don't like.

Although one thing I have noticed about news these days is it tends to voice personal opinion openly much more than years ago. Walter Cronkite, Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings wouldn't spout their own opinion they'd tell you what happened, and that's it.

Show the bodies, name the attackers, send reports to the NRA, government officials don't take no for an answer hound them day and night for a reply. Make it uncomfortable for everyone so much so that everyone wants to prevent another event from occurring.

There is no way to hide what happened or who did it in this age of information. If information lacking people just make up their own story or create conspiracy theories to fill the void.
That'd make sense. You'd need to pin all transitive dependencies as well and cache the venv. Not sure if you'd need to find older versions of new direct dependencies to avoid conflicts. For example, you run the sheet in 2015 and then again in 2019 but with a new import. That new import's latest version has a transitive dependency that you already pinned but has different version requirements than what you pinned. I wonder if you can embed the requirements.txt inside the sheet itself.

Only issue is that it'd be really space inefficient, my DS venvs clock in at 400+mb each so having one per sheet will probably quickly become unusable. Which is why I thought of some sort of smart system wide caching akin to maven/ivy. But I'd forgotten how complicated python dependencies (binaries, c code, etc.) were and how little api support pip had.
Being able to call people is pretty essential in the modern world. That’s why these laws exist and why governments have put so much effort into making these services available to everyone.

The phone company is required to serve you even if they disagree with you not because of some high-minded ideas about free speech, but because it’s considered really important for people to have phone service.
Why are you talking about telecoms. Cloud Flare is not a telecom.

Were you under a rock during Net Neutrality? Don't you realize you are saying nonsense?
Also the argument that Cloudflare is just a network provider is bunk. It works on people who think server less computing doesn't use servers. CF uses servers that store files, for minutes hours, days weeks at a time and serves them directly to the browser. The same as any web server.
That seems unlikely. The first graph[1] on this Wiki[2] article shows from 1982 until 2017 -- so not the exact range you mentioned -- but it shows that mass shooting deaths are higher today than decades ago.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_S...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_S...
On what do you base your understanding?
>If it gets forced so far underground that law enforcement can't figure out a way in I don't see how some disaffected youth somewhere could either.

You massively overestimate law enforcement interest and ability, and massively underestimate the technical abilities of teenagers.
Think about this event for 1 minute: He drove for -9- hours. NINE HOURS.

Do you think it would take less than 9 hours to pour some diesel fuel on fertilizer and flatten the entire WalMart?

People will just move on to other weapons: knives, bombs, etc.

Norway has very restrictive gun laws. Breivik managed to get enough fertilizer to make a bomb that was mostly a distraction, but still sent 8 people to grave and injured hundreds.

UK is having a knife problem:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48186035

You are at 10x higher chance of death by vehicle.

The -only- reason it is seen as a tragedy because people feel those deaths were somehow avoidable.
All the best engineering advice I stole from non-technical people
You've been repeating this view frequently and debunked frequently on HN. You're entitled to a personal opinion but don't pass it off as authoritative support for the 'airframe is inherently unstable' meme. None of what you linked supports it. Because no one in the industry supports it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=salawat&next=2043595...
> I reported the tweet that called for burning the restaurant across the street down to Twitter, and Twitter did remove that tweet

You already got 99% more than the average Twitter report. Twitter really needs a better "this tweet is verifiably fake, here is the proof" option that is acted upon with relative speed.
As the rates continue to drop, the quality of drivers and vehicles will continue to decline. The average human can handle driving, the problem is that controls don’t really exist to prevent known bad drivers.

Even in commercial driving scenarios, the government expends a lot of resources enforcing driver and vehicle safety, and new, shitty operators emerge all of the time. (Google Chinatown buses) As a passenger of an Uber, you have no idea who is actually driving, if they are qualified (ie. licensed, sober, etc) or how safe the car is... and neither does Uber.
I guess then you'd have to reflect on the kind of content you're promoting if the entire internet hates you for it.
Media outrage often leads social changes like car safety, food safety, pharmaceutical safety, etc.
Most providers make hundreds or thousands of decisions like this per year. Cloudflare doing it twice ever in 10 years of existence, both times in response to ideologically-inspired mass murder and platforms that stoked the flames (intentionally in the first case and by negligence/refusal in this case), doesn't really mean much.
E-mail isn't even a utility.

Please educate yourself on the law here. Most everyone in tech wants the internet to be a utility, but it's not. An individual internet company's product offering is definitely not a utility.
You know iPhone has amazing MDM controls. Just download Apple Configurator and lock it down. You don't need a burner phone.
That line is already in the legal system, and the ISP, and probably a couple other places along the way. It shouldn’t be at a content middleman too.

CF needs to stay out of it because they are no setting a precedent to be the gatekeepers of “what is good”.
> Censorship is disgusting, we should all oppose it.

> Its literally removing the ability for the populace to educate itself.

By running around, yelling the N word and not worrying about repercussions?
Here’s the civilian pay scale – think of how it compares with AWS or Google:

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries...

Now, think of the political climate: there’ve been decades trying to “trim waste” by steering money to the private sector, where efficiency is taken as a matter of faith. First you’d need to hire the technical leadership to properly plan something like that and then hire all of the people who’d build it, not to mention procuring all of the hardware & data centers, etc. You’re looking at years before you have a positive return on any of that – and all the while, every big contractor is going to have their lobbyists talking about how it’s a waste of money compared to going with them.

NASA tried this a decade ago with Nebula, which was part of the early OpenStack history. I don’t know exactly what happened with that but the people I know working on NASA projects are all using AWS.
Of course, the only bad speech is speech you personally dislike?
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:-(

I know... I have "post" traumatic spontaneity disorder
People of color, and LGBT are demographics. White supremacy is an ideology (a reprehensible one at that). People choose their ideology, not their race, or sexuality. They are not the same thing. Third party businesses should not feel any obligation to do business with "dudes who blabber" about the murdering and hate of others.
Many other providers provide DDoS protection. Just not for free. Let them go to OVH, Azure, etc....
Cloudflare isn’t an ISP so “all other providers” doesn’t make sense, and Comcast isn’t a competitor.
It's certainly not an unpopular opinion at all.
The best argument I’ve heard for being a free speech absolutist is that speech is the highest form of thought in Humans. We think via dialogue. We arrive at the truth via dialogue.

Criminalizing free speech limits our ability to think and arrive at the truth, and that can’t be good for anyone long term.

I haven’t heard of a good rebuttal to the above reasoning.
Because the sound quality is fading fast and needs transcribing to MP3, which I'm in the middle of. Unfortunately cassette sound quality deteriorates after 40 years.
People agree with the specifics too, until the media outlets they watch start pumping out misinformation about whatever the specific proposal says. After a few weeks of watching their favorite pundits bloviate, many people’s “personal preferences” change.
because the line of reasoning you are using has been repeated over and over and over.... but it's not exactly working out well. Words have a lot of power, and we already limit what people can say through libel laws. Much of the hate speech going on is really just libel to a group of people. No one really wants to police speech, but we already know untruths targeted at individuals can be devstating and we have created laws in most countries around that. It hasn't resulted in mass censorship of "YOUR ideas, and YOUR opinions" unless they are untrue ideas about other people that you think you can put out into the public space. America has this as their corporate slogan "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". Liberty cannot outweigh Life and pursuit of happiness. You need to balance all 3 of those, in fact, without rules everyones liberties are reduced.

We don't allow people to drive anyway they like on the roads, we have basic set of rules that allow everyone a lot more freedom to go where they want, violation of those rules tends to cause harm, and if it was total "freedom" then it would be chaos. If we cannot work out what those are for speech( and we already have some )so that everyone gets more effective freedoms, then more harm will keep happening.
> There are published statistics.

But no government data unlike car deaths, because the gun lobby blocks any attempt to actually fund research into gun deaths.
Should that mean a power company can cut off your power because they don't like what you've said?

Should that mean the water company can cut your water off for criticizing them?

Should that mean that a bank can refuse to give you a loan, because you said something bad, even if your credit is more than acceptable?

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Remember this: its the extremist that the law is made around. And soon enough, the law will be wrapped around non-extremists and used as let another tool of influence and control. The worst part is that anyone who speaks against this sort of law is seen to be defending the extremists, and is seen as a despicable person - yet the criticizers never stop to think about the average Joe and Jane.
Really disgusted by how the internet is shaping up. Monopolies all over the place and deplatforming free speech websites left and right.

This ain't the internet I was promised when I was 11.
John Wayne, what a guy to name an airport after!

I'll have to take a look at newport beach sometime, thanks for the tip :)
> How about a background check and a mental check?

That would pretty much guarantee that people who need mental health services would deliberately avoid getting it to prevent it from showing up on their records, e.g. a security guard who needs to carry a firearm for their job.
https://youtu.be/Dn2RjahTi3M
In english, as mentioned re. australia below (and also america), the negation of a negative is: 'no, yea'

https://pics.me.me/california-english-no-yeah-yes-yeah-no-ye...
So because net neutrality lost, we should move on and not continue the fight?
A human isn't an embryo either, what's your point? You can do it every generation, and at some point 'generation' will encompass in vitro operations as well.
Don't be fooled. It's not a virtuous move. It's a business decision.

If they wanted to be virtuous, they'd start working with groups to solve the problem--counteracting radicalization.
"Mental illness" is just a convenient way to dismiss any notion of doing anything about gun violence. It's misdirection. Because, as you point out, we're not going to actually do anything about mental illness. Indeed, half the Congress and all of the Administration is trying to reduce access to health care, which would include mental health care.
If it makes you get less consistent results, doesn't that imply that in some cases it hurts performance?
why are only 'rightwing' sites subjected to termination for 'causing violence'? Plenty of leftists shooters like just now in Dayton. But I don't see anybody calling nearly as much for Reddit or Twitter or the other places they may frequent to be shutdown.
The US provides this (in theory; public defenders are often overloaded and underfunded) for criminal cases, but not for civil or immigration ones.
> By turning every mass shooting into a hysterical emotional maelstrom, you signal a green light to all the other potential shooters that this is how you get attention.

I can see that point. There is also something odd about what shootings get publicized and which don't. Some shooters, seem to be getting more media attention than others.

Is it the manifestos or maybe the number of victims? I remember the Congressional baseball shooting, but I think there was no manifesto so it wasn't talked about as much, even though it involved members of Congress. The Christchurch one was publicized and was very visible, and there was a manifesto. The youtube shooter was a strange case. Given what media likes to do, I would have expected that one to be front page news for a long time since it had a manifesto in her videos and it involved a major tech company. However, it disappeared from the news cycle relatively quickly.

Now, I would rather they all not be publicized as much. There needs to be legislative action about guns, what resources, especially mental health, are available, etc. But, it is probably better if that is handled after some time and not in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy.
Seems like exactly the opposite is true. Where specific bills have reached the floor, they've passed. The tactics of the opposition are to use procedural control and veto power to prevent these from becoming laws. The assault weapons ban of 1994 was a successful law, and would have removed access to almost all the weapons used in the recent attacks. It had a sunset provision, and expired in 2004. But it passed, and it worked.

It's a common founding myth among gun rights people that "The American People" are pro-gun, but it's just not really true. It's a particular driving issue for a particular subset of the republican base, and beyond that opinions aren't as strong, but are broadly pro-gun-control.
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> Bill Gates started the first software company.

...?
You're arguing that their abandonment of their principles, was due to principles.
> News reports what happened.

selectively reports what happened, and only if it tells the right narrative and/or generates clicks, yes.

Mass shooting where 3 innocents die = clicks and correct narrative and will therefore be reported.

DUI crash where 5 innocents die = boring, wrong narrative; no report

Civilian kills police officer = boring, wrong narrative; no report

Police officer kills civilian (esp. with different color skin) = clicks and correct narrative and will therefore be reported
Replacing "Signal Processing" with "Regression" or "Least Squares" in the title would make more sense.
You seem to have very interesting definitions of "starving" and "censorship".
New Approaches for Hardware Security
Is it an OS version issue? I haven't updated my OSX in ages (mainly because I don't like the direction its going, and updating seems to be guaranteed to fuck up my Logic Audio install like it does every damn time), and iTerm runs amazingly smoothly on it as is. I feel no lag with it and I spend a lot of time on the command line (Lisp programmer on vim ... go figure...), so I'm wondering if these numbers even matter after a certain point, or if later OSX versions are doing something crappier than the usual.
Absolutely agree, articles without data and without the sourcecode, are not science, and that's another reason why we need github for science.
That's an unstable equilibrium.

Good luck thought policing thousands upon thousands of journalists, each of them has an incentive to defect and get more eye balls that competition, and make more money and name for themselves.

Never going to happen, until we have full blown censorship and you only read double-plus good happy time stories.

Is that what you really want?
Would love to hear from anyone who experience actually using this.
I don’t disagree in principle, but historically speaking that has not typically been the role of governments.
> If we raise taxes on cigarettes, and then people smoke less, and tax revenue goes down, does anyone complain? Of course not; that's why we raised taxes on cigarettes.

In this exact scenario, people complain all the time. They start talking about how we need to raise other taxes to make up for the new shortfall in cigarette-related revenue.
Neil Degrasse Tyson shares stark assessment of accidental death stats
Thanks for calling that out. I agree with you. One of the hardest things I find about doing things like this is trying to stay on the uncomfortable but correct path. It's too easy to do the easy and wrong thing - giving something away for free is easy and has zero risk of rejection and actually finding out it's useless or not what people want. I'll do what you suggest and actually aim to sell even the MVP.
> So you think people who engaged in fringe ideologies will be slowed down by having likeminded people banned and deplatformed from popular social media and chan forums?

Yep!

And, more importantly, by making it even marginally harder to find this shit online, we can dramatically decrease the number of people who get exposed to, and radicalized by, it.
> The number of subjects absolutely does matter. Selecting mice for intelligence is all nice and well, but you have to breed thousands, and "discard" most of them. Both in traditional breeding as well as with genetic engineering, you have to have sufficient number of trials to conclude anything.

The number of 'subjects' is elastic. If applied to IVF, that's everyone who uses IVF. In embryo selection, you are selecting out of available embryos, eg 1 out of 5. With other techniques like ovarian biopsy or gametogenesis, you are potentially selecting 1 out of 100+. Hence, plenty of subjects.

> You can reliably quantify the intelligence of a mouse at a few weeks of age and breed it soon thereafter (though you would probably use that "IQ" to score its parents). You can't reliably quantify health and intelligence of a Human within years, especially if you are aiming for "multiple standard deviations" above average. At the very least the practical generational span is 20 years, and usually much longer if the subjects have any say in the matter.

All irrelevant, since no one is suggesting phenotyping. That's the point of the polygenic scores.

> The mutations they screen for are virtually never causal, but merely markers associated with actually causal sequences.

Also irrelevant. When you are doing prediction for selection, all you need to do is predict the one with the highest scores. There is zero need to identify even a single causal variant. GWASes are so predictive because the SNPs are in LD with the causal variants, and the LD does not change abruptly in a single selection step.

However, since you think that none have been identified, you should go read the appendix to Lee et al 2018, among other IQ GWASes, where they do estimates, and turn up scores of SNPs which have causal probabilities >90%.
Example? This seems a very unusual scenario for a class action lawsuit to me, I can't think of a comparable example, involving corporations forming a class like this.

I don't think "That’s how all major companies operate," but if it is, it should be easy for you to find an example of a class action lawsuit like this?

(I agree that harrasment lawsuits where it is very expensive to defend regardless of your chances of victory -- are how all companies with enough money to do it operate. Just without the class action component).
I believe you'll find that this was driven by SESTA/FOSTA, rather than being a discretionary choice by Cloudflare, and if you hang out in the right circles, it gets complained about a lot. (EFF, ACLU, Wikimedia, and many more opposed it.)

I think it's unconstitutional and the worst thing to happen to the internet in many years, as well as one of the worst things to happen to civil liberties (which is a pretty high bar!). Unfortunately, it passed senate 97 votes to 2, which suggests legislative fixes will not be coming soon.