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I'm upstate ny and pay $80 for internet. This gets me 100Mbit down and a paltry 10Mbit up. I don't consider this "broadband" as the upload speed is so slow. It's also highway robbery... there's no choice here.
Good call outs. There's a couple out there.
> but rather these people and their ideologies.

I think it is rather strong[1] implied assumption here that places like 8chan can't change peoples' ideologies.

[1] If you ask me, the assumption is wrong.
The sterile-male technique is IMO the latest & greatest. You breed vast quantities of sterile males (which do not bite, only females bite) and release them in an area. They compete with viable males for mates, and the net effect is suppressing the reproduction of the population.

It exhibits some very desirable attributes. It's incredibly selective, targeting only one species. It is also self-limiting, there is no feedback loop that could run out of control and there are no chemicals that could accumulate in the environment.

For a while the cost of breeding the males was prohibitive but some recent innovation has dropped the cost tremendously.
Nah Amazon has 15 and 20 at 7 years, which is pretty common in the US at least.
Damn that's cool as hell. Maybe you have some balisong tricks you'd also like to show me?
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So why don't we continue down the slippery slope and criminalize, like the Chinese do, speech that generally disrupts social harmony? How will you tangibly stop us from sliding down that slope, the absolutists have ever right to ask of you.
I don't know of any cases where the aggrieved person reported something to HR and was helped, but I know of a few cases where a third party reported something to HR on the aggrieved person's behalf and it turned out well.

I personally witnessed a woman at work getting harassed, and she was too afraid to say anything. I reported to HR on her behalf as a witness and the harasser was quickly removed.

I think the best way to get HR to help you is to find an ally and make them aware of the wrongdoing so they can be a witness and then report it to HR for you. Then it's no longer just the word of the two people involved, and they are more compelled to act to remove the liability of the aggressor.
One way to consider this is in terms of attention, the ultimately nonfungible resource: you can pay attention to only one thing at a time, seach moment must be experienced, none can be called back.

If you live to 80 and devote your adult life from 20 onwards to meeting people, if you meet 10,000 people, you can devote about 50 hours to each of them -- a little over two days. That's sleeping or waking, working or resting.

The US House of Representatives has 435 members (add the hundred senators -- and 3 DC electors -- to get the famous 538 electoral college votes), each representing something like 720,000 citizens. Given a 2 year term, this means that each representative can devote a net total of ... just under 90 seconds per constituent.

If you wanted to dedicate your adult life to meeting everyone currently alive on Earth, 7.3 billions, you can dedicate just over a quarter second to each.

At the same time, in every second, there are 215 years of human experience lived, 14,000 years per minute, 830,000 years per hour, and 20 million years per day. Rounding somewhat.

How much of that experience can be distinct and individual, how much is shared? What are the consequences of forced attention, as with advertising, or with forced isolation?

How much can we know, and pass on, culturally? Is there a net effective intergenerational knowledge transfer bandwidth limit, and how close to that (or exceeding it) are we? How is that shared between culture, personal, technical, and poetic knowledge?
It is a personal choice. But IMHO too many people went 100% on stocks. Not everyone has Warren Buffett's incredible mentality to buy in downfalls.

About returns FOMO: in 1999 risk meant to bump into someone who makes more money day trading stocks. In 2003 it was owning stocks :)
Never happened to me. I've been getting "point out the hydrants" over 5 times in a row sometimes because of the amount of anti-tracking I have set up, but the audio option was always there letting me on the first try.
I don't think the main disagreement in this thread is about whether the ban was legal but whether it was moral.

There are the usual side-debates though: the ban being strategically effective and the ban being in-line with how the us constitutions concept of free speech gets interpreted.

Personally I'm not sure to what degree the latter might be relevant for an apparently(?) Filipino company.
I mean, almost every country should. I live in Russia and it baffles me how much faster and cheaper internet is here, compared to the most western countries.
"That's like...your opinion..man" - The Dude.
I think Cloudflare kicking them off their service is the moral and ethical thing to do.

I don't think 100% of the CDN providers in the entire world will do the moral and ethical thing, and I recognize that the First Amendment would (should) handily prevent legislation requiring that they do.
Legal access, not physical. If you don't buy or rent land, you cannot farm it. A small amount of capital would be required to get a subsistence farm up-and-going when historically it was community of family land without all of the modern legal ownership and tax concerns. I am merely trying to present a thought experiment of:

Would it be a better life as:

A) an impoverished person with land and the ability to grow food

B) an impoverished person living in a car or on the streets relying on low-wage jobs or begging.
It's weird for such a small country to have such big reserves.

Why not spend some on infrastructure/whatever?

Maybe they use the reserve as some sort of geo-political insurance against possible shocks (whatever those might be)
Your link 0 is absolutely ludicrous. That 21 guns per capita in Texas would mean ~600 million guns in Texas ALONE out of the ~400 million total in the US.

And you're right that these things should be counted per capita, but that still doesn't explain how Texas has a far higher gun ownership rate, 30% less population than California.... And HALF the mass shootings.
SJW Big Tech is playing with fire!

Its all out push to win 2020.

The ends justify the means and they stomp on the first amendment rationalizing their distorted symmetrical beliefs into justification of their Orwellian acts
And how do you plan to get the entire Internet where you probably do most of your shopping to switch to Apple Pay? :) Amazon's in no hurry, and that's who gets a disproportionate amount of my spend.
I can voice the same. One company I started to work for stated a zero tolerance policy towards x,y,z. For me, that means even if I'm not guilty of x,y,z the accusation is enough to get me fired. I've seen enough investigations done to know that companies don't care if people are wrongly fired. They have enough valid reasons to let people go that they can always claim it was really one of those, even if it was not.
Someone once said "The pen is mightier than the sword. But when you have taken my pen, what choice do I have?"
> they take as long as they take

Sure, agreed, which is not to say that time budgets don't exist, and aren't exceeded :).
What speeds/types/prices are available where you're located?
Interesting idea. The passive traps I have either need to be manually emptied and/or use donuts or bits.

Some challenges:

The purging is a difficult part to get right. You need to be absolutely sure no larvae or eggs survive it.

Also if you purge the water regularly it will be less brackish, so less attractive to many species for egg laying. I include decomposing plant matter in my traps in the hopes it makes it more attractive.

I would say definitely check out the biogents passive trap design, it has some clever ideas in a very very simple design.
I delete all cookies outside of a few whitelisted domains every time I close a tab, which is why reCaptcha is so annoying to me in the first place. Still, at least for me, the audio fallback is always there and much less annoying.
Not letting Jews post Jewish content is different than not letting Jews use the service qua their being Jewish.
Given the context of living on the street, what is easy in accessing farmland?

Lack of experience and capital quickly come to mind as challenges. The more I think about it, the more I want to say that everything is hard in accessing farmland.
i wonder if this is a cultural thing or a gov/business decision directed at foreign companies. do chinese business people rip other chinese business people off?
> having the government give another permit for the same time and place to people whose aim was to disrupt the rally would probably violate the first amendment rights of the rally organizers. And

You keep saying that this violates the first amendment rights of the protesters but yet again you're not backing that up in any way. How does this violate their first amendment right? I'm just not seeing it.
But I said "lol" what more do you want from me? A "lel" perhaps?
I posted this above, but it is a direct response to your question as well: Just look at the absurdity of Qanon. This troll gone long [1] has affected real people and real relationships [2].

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-...

[2] https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a22664244/qanon-boyfri...
No one is claiming reddit legally has to give anyone a platform. The claim is that it would be immoral to censor the donald.
The usual argument on this topic is: whether suppression of free speech is even effective; you just push the ugliness underground and it festers; sunlight is the best disinfectant; etc. However, those arguments go back way before the internet and social media. And do not account for the fact that social media accelerates the spread of hatred and actual, physical danger. As we are seeing.

The role of 8chan (and, let's be real: Fox "News"), is similar to that of the broadcast hate messages that led to the Rwandan genocide. https://www.concordia.ca/research/migs/resources/rwanda-radi...
>While all our recent major market down turns have been preceded by a yield curve inversion, there have been plenty of times that the yield curve inverted and was not preceded by a recession.

I thought it only inverted once without a recession in the following 30 months.

"The U.S. Treasury yield curve has inverted before each recession in the past 50 years and has only offered a false signal just once in that time, according to data from Reuters." https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/25/the-us-bond-yield-curve-has-...
Funny how trump calls this "currency manipulation" when in fact they are stopping propping up their currency.
In that case, we're talking about something different though. Saying "they have CP" to mean "there is CP posted which then gets speedily removed by mods before LE can act on it" implies that AWS, Google, FB, Youtube etc also host child pornography. Certainly it will be uploaded and they will remove it.

Only when the platform embraces it does that statement make sense, which apparently 8chan did not if I understand you correctly.
Being a defacto pulic square is what they benefit from. I get where you are going with this so can you move to the point you clearly want to make?
Instead of discussing a bunch of pointless examples, let me cut to the chase:

I disagree with your premise that this is a "slippery slope" and should be avoided.
What is a crime fighting service?

More specifically, what is a crime prevention service?
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Trump puts 10% tariffs on Chinese imports bringing billions into the treasury, China devalues currency to compensate... net effect: Americans pay the same price but get billions in free tax money. Thanks, I guess?
Probably it's closer to home- those sites fuel domestic terrorism, whereas the Taliban do not. Also public pressure and public attention. They're probably incredibly hesitant to take anything down, but if something becomes front page news then they have to deal with it. Also I don't know what's proactive about any of this, if anything it's way too little too late. The sites you mention provide absolutely zero value to anything resembling civilization- they're gathering places for sociopaths and psychotic morons. I'm not even close to being remotely upset that they may have been treated more harshly than actual ISIS or Taliban sites or whatever. There is a level of pathetic beneath which it all just kind of blends together and it doesn't make sense to attempt to rank them. Yeah, ISIS is shittier than the people who like Daily Stormer, but they're both so shitty that it's not really possible to rank their shittiness relative to each other. It's like the difference between jumping off a 50 story building vs. a 100 story building- there is a distinction, but it doesn't really matter.
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As a macroeconomist, coming from a degree in applied mathematics, I can only emphatically ‘second’ this statement. There’s many ‘dynamics’ in macroeconomics but unlike physics there are few “conserved quantities” (even ‘wealth’ isn’t a conserved quantity) that might allow one to distinguish between plausible and implausible scenarios The end result is that prediction is basically a retroactive decision as to which axioms to adopt.
My concern: the person expressing 'calming, positive comments' gets doxed and/or SWAT'ed for their efforts.

I agree in principle with what your suggesting, but at this point those boards are echo chambers, not spaces for discussion.
> Should you be allowed to keep operating these ponds?

Are your actions illegal? I don't want pond ownership determined by the moral outage of the day.
The purpose of (most) speech is to create action. If the phrase "I'm going to kill you" is intended to alter someone's behavior. If property is involved, whether it's through force or threat of force, it's still robbery. If the threat of violence is delayed, it's still extortion.

For libertarian extremists who, just treat the right to be left in peace to live your life as you see fit... as a property right.
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The Engineers are clearly busy making rockets :P
I'd rather live in an RV than as a feudal serf, if that's what you are talking about.
I would like to hear what you think you know about this, and how.

A large part of our job is trying to prevent HN from being gamed. YC startups don't get to do that any more than others, and if we notice egregious cases we email them and give them an extra scolding.
That is what is meant by interest rate targetting: the central banks guarantee to supply as much reserve as needed to maintain the interest rate target.
So the author was managing a small team and was hold by her manager to get rid of one of her reports because she was pregnant. Now we know why management consists of psychopaths, those who are not evil quit in disgust.
You make some great points. Let me also ask you a devil's advocate question.

"Let's go to oarabbus_'s house at <DOXXED ADDRESS> and kill him" is not protected speech, correct? I am sure everyone agrees upon this.

But "Let's attack folks who are <oarabbus_'s ethnicity> as they are a scourge upon our nation" is protected? Why?
regex101.com lets me have client-side validation without requiring a network connection, so it's way more useful to me than regexr (although the regexr UI is nice and I like their github repo).
And you are welcome to do so. If you wish also to convince others, merely stating that this is what you think probably won't suffice.
Nice one. But it works both ways. If the conclusion is true, the argument could still be a fallacy.
That case was a bad mistake, and it's telling that the ACLU changed its ways. Hopefully, one day the ACLU will apologize to the Jewish community for its role there.
"individual is the base of all laws"

Yes. The Individual.

Well, what about the rights of the 29 individuals that were randomly murdered, plus the scores of others wounded this past weekend? What about their justice?

I'm sure it's fun for you to treat all of this as some sort of abstract thought experiment, but the reality is that people are dying senselessly and violently for no reason other than we as a society won't make difficult decisions in the name of "principle".
Had to go look that up. That was a special Walkman.

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This will be an interesting experiment. Will the banning of 8chan prevent future tragedies? Or will we see the rate of these tragedies continue unabated.

Either way we should have some evidentiary support for the arguments made in this thread. "Can free speech go to far?" "Should free speech be limited only to those mentally capable of the responsibility?" "Are safe spaces key in the radicalization process?" "Should speech be limited to only those ideas which society wishes to debate?" "Are calls to violence speech?"

I'm pretty keen on tracking some of these arguments. Please suggest more arguments (and potential indicators for that argument's truth) if you feel I've neglected some aspect of the conversation.
Then it turns into a game (game theory, not Risk) of whom defines "intolerance". And once duly defined, it is now verboten and removed from discussion and vernacular.

Hot button topics: capitalism, abortion, religion, right vs left, states rights

I think the founders had it better: govt can't censor speech, so the individuals and the public could decide. Just, the framers didn't imagine companies of such scope.
Maybe the (female) manager(s) simply didn't like the woman in question. What is a manager to do, in this day and age, if they are not happy about an employee?
I doubt that all the problems in the world are fixed with money :) I've been to rich companies with crappy websites way too many times.

I assume the company has put the focus on the rockets ( as it should ) instead of the marketing, although they ( probably ) pay enough for developers / QA that can deliver the task right.
There are other ways to deal with this than censorship. Why are there not FBI agents in /pol/ on 8chan actively chasing up leads on people who are threatening violence? It seems actually useful that these people are willing to make these kind of plans in the public eye. Force them underground and behind encryption and it will be harder to monitor.

Does anyone know how law enforcement engages with places like 8chan?

Instead of curtailing free speech and pushing for censorship (which will have anti-humanitarian effects soon enough), why not enforce the laws already on the books and investigate people who threaten violence online?
> or at least a lack of desire to get involved

This sounds like the very definition of neutrality. Neutrality in a dispute is about not getting involved.

Neutrality is the store owner who chooses to ignore two customers who are loudly arguing about something. He will sell his wares to either customer, but he doesn't want to alienate either one by stepping in. Maybe one of the customers is obviously at fault, but as a neutral party he stays out of it.

It sounds like what you are implying is that there is no such thing as neutrality, either in this specific case or more broadly. Or you could be saying that neutrality itself is "wrong" in some sense, that's a philosophical argument and you could try to make a convincing argument. But if you accept the existence of neutrality as a concept, claiming that a clearly neutral party is not actually neutral because they are acting neutrally is a hard sell.
Do you live your whole life by making blanket statements for everything?
wow...950 now. As of comment, latest article update: 3:21 PM EST
On a related note, 8chan has both a Tor/hidden service version and a ZeroNet version, and there are ads going around on how to access those.

So it's clear the folks running the site knew that something like this might happen, and set up alternatives (on 'uncensorable' services) to provide access in such a situation.

It may provide for an interesting case study in whether a community site like this moving to P2P services or Tor can maintain the same level of activity as on the clearweb, or whether that effectively hides it for a decent percentage of the userbase.
> It requires people who are able to fully parse the implications of what they are hearing to make sound and rational judgements on the rejection of an idea or the embrace of it.

This is the crux of liberal (classical, libertarian, and contemporary) ideology as a whole. The idea that if only people were enlightened we could have nice things. All in all, it is kind of useless, or utopian. You can't enlighten people, and merely giving them education doesn't do the trick on its own.

Liberalism (classical, libertarian, and contemporary) ignores material conditions as a base for which all things are formed, leaving it ill-equipped to handle any real issues. We can hem and haw all day about how "if only the plebs were enlightened" but nothing will change until we make real efforts to change people's material existence. It's easy to turn to fascism and extremism if you have literally nothing going for you in life.

I'm not excusing individuals actions, but don't try to solve a systemic problem with individualism if you want anything to actually change.
This is probably the only thing I feel great about in the Indian communication domain! I pay <$2 a month for about 1.5GB 4G every DAY! Speeds generally vary from crap to 11 Mbps
Do you not think that discussion has the potential to convey ideas and change minds? It hardly seems implausible to say that a group of people eagerly urging each other to murder could possibly result in someone getting murdered.
Furthermore, leaving it out in the open allows it to spread. There's good evidence that "de-platforming" is highly effective at preventing the spread of hate.
Canadians have slow AND more expensive Internet but are, for some reason, not frustrated. :<
It is the reverse. The state must not "permit" so much as aggressively work around mandatory binding arbitration, as the judiciary viciously denies access to courts of law to victims of mandatory binding arbitration and invalidates state laws to protect their citizenry. The American Arbitration Act has been interpreted with maximal denial of the rule of law towards its victims.
Wait, how could you possibly get really lost in Yellowstone? If you are leaving your car and heading off into the back country then presumably you have the skills to do so. If you are staying on the normal roads then you will have no problem finding a ranger, a ranger station, an information booth, etc. I've probably been to Yellowstone 10 times and I can't fathom anyone getting really lost.
I’m in Hamburg and it’s not great, not terrible but not great.
1. The speech is wrong.

2. You can think the speech is wrong, and that CDNs shouldn't host it, while having concerns about the US government getting involved in censorship in direct violation of the First Amendment.