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Yes, compared to a censorship coming from companies.

One point is that the decision process is rather secretive. Who argued for? Who argued against? What were their supporting arguments and etc.? Doing censorship through court would be better.

If you have a different position, could you explain why censorship coming from CloudFlare is better than censorchip coming from US government?
> Everyone realizes that.

Based on some of the posts in this thread, I disagree.
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I would have agreed not that long ago, but a lot of those platforms became defacto public squares. You do not get to benefit from a public good without burdens that come with it.
> I dislike the rationale of "CloudFlare is a private company. They can do whatever they want" ... like wut?

Doesn't CloudFlare have the same free speech rights to express their own views towards hate speech (i.e., by not providing service to white supremacists)?
What does free speech have to do with this? Cloudflare and other companies have 1st amendment rights as well. One of them is that they can serve customers as they like, as long as they are not violating the rights of a protected class. Political ideology or party affiliation is not a protected class, nor should it be. Twitter could ban every Republican on its platform tomorrow and it if the government tried to stop them the Supreme Court would likely side with Twitter.

Companies are allowed to discriminate against political ideology as much as they like. It’s their 1st amendment right to do so. So 1st amendment advocates should be on the side of company censorship, not the other way around.
And a note to the simpleton downvoters, so that they may possibly grow: my profile has contained an Arabic adoration of the Islamic God since before I posted the above comment. I am Roman Catholic and deeply oppose censorship of any kind.
I had a "minor" issue with a transaction a few weeks back. My bank froze my card and wouldn't unfreeze it unless I called into a branch with photo ID. Said bank didn't have a branch on the right side of town, and the branches are only open 10-4 Monday through Friday, and the queues are 30+minutes. I took a half day, and it took them 5 days to send me out a replacement card (which I had to phone for, twice, because it's handled by a different department to the ID department).

It's not quite week off work, but definitely worth the hassle of using a password manager to avoid simple breaches.
They float it but manipulate the price the way other countries do (buying/spending forex, interest rates, etc...). I doubt they it would crash all the way back down to 8 at this point (ah, to remember 1999 when it was 8.8), but it depends on how much money they’ve actually been printing to support their bubbly real estate market.
I guess we need to stand up to antifa then.
And yet, Cloudflare didn't take them down proactively like they did with The Daily Stormer and now 8chan. Under what standards are sites like 8chan worse than the Taliban?
ooooh cool!
The theoretical argument is simple- if you ban one kind of speech, where does it end? The line can keep getting moved closer until what's not allowed is in a gray area and that's not where we want to be.

However, the practical side of this is pretty clear.. hate speech is hate speech. It's not a debate. The people who are for being racist/bigots are wrong- plain and simple. So removing their forum of speech is OK in my book.

Still even after saying that- it's never that simple.. I think collectively the US does not want to turn into what parts of even europe has in which you can literally get in trouble just for saying things. And trying to "ban" even the clearest of wrong views is one step closer to getting somewhere we don't want to be.
Fun idea, but consider seeding a few example Issues?
Posted many times but the large threads are:

2017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13599952

2015 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9581225

2014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7537189

Already in 2008 the comments were listing others: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=277657
Amazon pay is shit. I was laughed out of the room for asking for a salary that some analysts make in finance.

People get paid so much more in finance than any other industry that I wonder why tech people aren’t more interested in those jobs.

Also the work is more exciting and challenging. And it’s better for the world, though I suspect I’ll get a lot of downvotes for that one.
How would you even come to the conclusion that it would be a german company? They are HQd in Romania and only have a virtual office address in Frankfurt, for their GmbH.
+1, this is very cool, but would love for the BlazingDB team to show benchmarks here
Put differently: this is why we can't have nice things
This cage metaphor really doesn't work when the 'cage' is big enough to allow international travel completely within its confines.
You're assuming that "write websites" is the only thing a web developer does. Running web services at scale requires polyglots who understand multiple tech stacks as well as distributed computing, databases, networking, and operating systems.
Perhaps the wordpress method of comments would work for you without a captcha - you allow comments but hold for review any comment that has a potential link in it. Most spammers skip posting links in WP comment sections unless they specifically are trying to market to the site admins.
This sounds like people who quote "slow in, fast out" in racing. Just like here it's not true. It's a "rule of thumb" for beginners. It has use in that context. The way to win a race is fast in, fast out, same with software.

edit: I'm 42, if the matters.
In the midwest if someone invites your over to their house they are hoping you come visit.

In other parts (the south, but I'm not sure where, maybe North Carolina?) it is an expression that just means nice to see you.

Note because it is an expression in some parts you hear it often from those people. People from the other parts don't invite people over often so they rarely say it. Thus the impression that it is universally used, when it is only a small region that says it often.
Ask HN: How to get a job in old-school IT in 2019?
Hello HN,
how does one find a job in an old-school IT environment in 2019? I mean no missions to change the world, diversity, yoga, snowflakes, pets in the office, etc.

I don't have much against but I do my work more or less for money. Playing that I support and care about those other things feels odd and unfair for such employers. On the other hand, I still need to earn my living somehow. I'd rather work for a company like the one I worked for decades ago, but finding a smaller one without "specialties" appears to be challenging nowadays.

So how would you look for a job in 2019 where you code or manage like it still were the 00s? I've checked quite a bunch of job postings and most of them are advertising quite the opposite of what I'm looking for.
A bit out of the loop. The hell is 8chan? Similar to 4chan? Are the by the same people? I always knew 4chan was a cesspool, just like youtube comment sections. So, never ventured.

Next question, is there any actual evidence or proof that they're "apart of it"?

Literally, out of the loop and I trust a random person on HN a bit more than CNN. I saw the thing about Cloudflare here... was it yesterday? Day before? I figured, whatever, a private company can think what they want and do what the want as long as they're honoring the terms of the contract (as in there's a warning that service can be cut because of "our reasons").

Just curious about this 8chan thing and where the hell it came from.
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QAnon purports to be an important person with access to inside information. It is beyond silly that you interpreted my statement to mean that there isn't a physical person typing those posts.

Are you someone who cannot resist coming up with a counter-argument no matter how thin? You might want to ponder how much value that adds to discourse in general.
They may already exist, but that doesn't mean we should amplify their voices and give them the ability to recruit more to their cause and ideology.

Now, that's not to say disruptions of communication systems (e.g. censorship) is the right answer. But existence doesn't mean we shrug our shoulders and do nothing. At the very least you can stop encouraging and normalizing them.
You know private company do whatever they want if you're not happy just host your stuff elsewhere they're not accountable.
The politicisation of much American (and British) academia during the height of the Cold War is its own interesting study. The field of economics (one I'm close too) seems particularly heavily hit, though Stern (largely working in sociology) clearly felt its effects. Sinologist Joseph Needham (I've commented numerous times on his Science and Civilisation in China, which I'd only recently discovered) also hit political turbulence due to his support of (and to unwitting duping by) the Communist China regime. Simon Winchester's biography tells that tale.

I suspect this may be a reason why Winchester's work is not mentioned at all by that other British historian of technology and innovation, James Burke, of whom I'm also a fan. (Connections and The Day the Universe Changed.)

(Late response, apologies.)
Wrong. Yuan has been devalued by close to 10% since this April.
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some random sales schmoo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmoo
I've lost good friends to 4chan/8chan. They were obsessed. At first it was cat pictures and memes, but it went way downhill from there. I've watched those sites cause the transition from normal, interesting, reasonable, open minded, intelligent, happy human beings, to horrible inexcusable pieces of shit who I never want to have anything to do with ever again.

It's not just that they inspire a few shooters and mass murders. They inspire a hell of a lot of other once-reasonable people to be deeply and irredeemably terrible in many other ways.
Indeed, but speech itself is is. I think OP's point was that free-speech is as fundamental a "air" and that everybody everywhere depends on it.
So we should allow them to have their way, and we should enlist third party private entities to mandate assistance be provided?
Please give me one example of true information that would radicalize a person.
Wetland restoration is possible, it just takes years and years, but is possible, and will cost real amounts of money.
Not exactly, it depends on the particular good. The price in yuan could stay 100 or not move as much. In that case your purchasing power has increased
According to the Cloudflare CEO he was worried cutting off 8chan with inhibit law enforcement's ability to monitor it.
Mental model posts get upvoted a lot on here. Do people on here actually use them regularly and benefit?
Why is there a sudden explosion of posts about regex in the last few days? Did something newsworthy happen that I missed, or is it more of a "I saw the post last week and then found this cool related thing" bandwagon effect?
Without reusing the password, otherwise you've barely spread the risk.
The first ' in '' is red and the second one is black. Does the syntax highlighter maybe work on ucs-16 characters wrongly?
If you're leaving for simply a better opportunity, there's nothing wrong with an exit interview.

During my last exit interview, I recommended my relatively new manager for a promotion and I later heard he actually got it. I guess they took my advice.

Some organizations actually want genuine feedback, and exit interviews are one of those opportunities.
It doesn't let anything float. It's a managed "float".

It's rather very simply to devalue your own currency - just run the printing press a bit more and flood the market with freshly "printed" zeroes.
It's always gamble to go to HR
A private company must act as public infrastructure once it becomes a de facto monopoly.
Your argument here is that something which does not legally constitute censorship would be better replaced by something which does.
Well, it's only invisible if all pages / tabs you visit share the same cookie / session store. With browsers implementing more and more of privacy-focusing features this becomes less and less frequent.

If I use Safari private mode (each tab has its own cookie store) or Firefox with containers and cookie auto delete extension every tab I open, every page I visit gets a brand new Google session. Obviously, Google treats my like a bot.
From my experience buying/getting quotes for Hamilton/Tecan machines, they're more likely in the $150-250k range. At least for the ones much wider and capable than that OpenTrons appears to be.
I would not discount government 'incentives' to BT. Hundreds of millions have come the public purse for contracts that were supposedly put up for public tender. BT got about 95% of them.

edit: there are other issues in the UK, like fibre tax, that makes the situation even more difficult for competition.
My banks "security questions" were my DOB and my country of birth - verified against my passport. Not really much help.
I'd had a paragraph after that said "You can, in fact, yell "fire" in a crowded theater without breaking any laws", but edited it out because in certain situations this would also violate the revised test in Brandenburg (you still can't incite a riot legally, for example). But that paragraph made it a bit more clear that yes, the irony I'm talking about is that the specific examples in Schenk are no longer law, not the general principle that free speech has limits. The limits are significantly less restrictive than Schenk held, though.
I'm wondering, does anyone have any stories of involving HR in a situation like this (less-than-overt discrimination or harassment from a person more senior/important than you) and getting a positive outcome? At this point whenever I read that someone "reached out to HR to ask for help in navigating the situation" I assume that the main outcome will be to put the company on notice that they need to start working on their paper trail for when you inevitably quit or get fired. But I suppose I wouldn't hear the happy stories as often as the unhappy ones.
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edit: nah
That could be very good. Or catastrophically bad.
Society places limits on all kinds of things. Even speech - inciting violence is not protected under the first amendment.
> What irked me is that CloudFlare was the one who makes the decision to do censorship.

I'm not sure what makes you think cloudfront is "censoring" anyone; 8chan no longer is using cloudflare's (likely) free service, so they need to reconfigure their DNS and go about their day.

A good majority of the internet does not use cloudflare; free or paid.
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Which kind would you like, the invasion citation or the infestation citation?

I’m joking of course, not going to provide either, you can find them yourself if you’re not biased.
For mobile I have unlimited 4G LTE for $55 dollars a month, including talk/text/etc. The 'real' cap is 60GB were they 'review your account for violations of terms and services'.

Just did a speed test and it's 31Mbps download and 4Mbps upload, but it varies wildly by location. But it's consistently fast enough that I can share out over Wifi from my cell phone so I can do my work and while my girlfriend watches youtube videos when we are travelling or the internet is down.

For home internet.. once it got faster then my wifi I stopped really caring a whole lot. 176Mbps on my last test.

If you are travelling in the USA as long as you stick to the interstate system you pretty much get mobile data the entire way. IF you drift onto smaller highways then that is when things get very spotty outside of metropolitan areas.

Verizon tends to have the best coverage in the mid-west. If I was travelling a lot in the boonies I would get a second data-only account on Verizon's network just to increase my chances of always having internet.

Although nowadays that is less and less necessary as every hotel and most restaurants have wifi. Just look for a Mcdonalds and you can get internet most of the time.
No, Germany is a dystopian hell-hole because the taxes are insane and collected without consent, the free and unrestricted private ownership of arms by Jews is still prohibited by the German state, and the entirety of the society is heavily surveilled by the BND.

Also, video games and other harmless expressions of art are subject to prior restraint, if you wish to nonviolently depict violence.

It’s insane.

I call it the invisible dystopia: it is transparent to 99% of human beings who do nothing exceptional or out of the ordinary. Only when you start to challenge the status quo does it begin to affect you, like a prison with invisible walls.
Your risk with holding onto your cash until a downtown is that the crash won't be more than the rise. The market will need to crash to below current levels for this strategy to come out ahead.

A lot of people have been waiting for a crash for years. People on 2013 were saying that the bull market couldn't last much longer, and here we are in 2019.

At the end of the day, it's a bet on the market. Personal investment is 80% regret-minimization so make your bet but hedge against it somewhat.
I'm sure they do pay well, it's just that they seem to assume that ever random person in Europe would be jumping to work for them.

I'd have to be around the $150k in a city where large (180-200m2 inside on 600-800m2 land, with a double garage) high quality house would cost $2000 a month in mortgage payments. That's basically where I stand now. I have no idea what houses cost in the places they were talking about (Toronto and somewhere in the US iirc).

That's to be even just for me and that's just to say even. Which is of course not even slightly interesting if you're talking about emigrating.

For my wife you're talking between 4-6x that amount (which is where the profit sharing comes in).

From the emails I've exchanged with recruiters it was basically a no-go. I don't know what they could actually offer but the recruiters have all stopped replying after I mention that :-)
Your tactic is identical to that of Weimar-republic anti-Semites, but aimed at a different hub of people. You even threw in the genocide-incoming bit, "they're trying to kill as many of us as possible"!

I recommend you have a look at the Kabbalah.info course on anti-Semitism - who can have more experience with it than the Jews themselves?

(I'm saying this glibly because this is unpleasant work and the amount of work it requires to be able to say this is vastly underestimated.)

Perhaps... communicate, then think, then understand and only then act?

You've moved from "counter terrorism", to "root out terrorism", to "root out image boards" - which is "root out the congregation".

Breathing pause. "Root out the radical congregations, Jews, fags, Roma's, chans, white nationalists, whatever, just root them out completely" is the WW2 analogy.

The next move is: "root out the causes of terrorism" - but we didn't get to that last time. It sure isn't any particular group of people.

Solve the root causes. It's either that or keep mirroring their impotent group defense mechanism on a more subtle level, which will in fact justify them to do whatever they initially wanted on a larger scale.

The solution to anti-Semitism sure as hell is not "destroy the anti-Semitec communities, burn their homes, kill their sons, rape their wives"! That is throwing gasoline onto the bonfire.

Edit: comment, please. I don't like throwing cold water on outrage porn either, but I don't want this to escalate further.

If it escalates further, the chans will go full dark, which means a massive influx of teenagers on the darkweb, and the good parts of the darkweb becoming a lot less cool, also, incidentally.
> I'm afraid that part is largely accurate.

So it ran as a honeypot? I understand that 8chan wasn't hosted anonymously, the owners are known. If they provided a safe haven to child pornography, I assume law enforcement would put an end to that very quickly, especially with obvious and easy ways to apprehend the owners. They've been very active and successful in bringing down hidden services, it's not plausible that they looked the other way for a clearnet site.
How Orwellian of you. Who taught you to be so dishonest?
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Again, 8chan is not one person, most users dont encourage this at all because it brings problems like exactly this one. Its the price of a truly free platform, sadly it seems americans hate freedom.

In the practical sense, I doubt this will counter shootings at all, intelligence services had them contained in a single board, now they will just spill around the internet.
> thread of support

So framing an event and pushing a narrative when one neither likes the frame nor the narrative is now an offence requiring the sacking of media?

When mass-media is busy framing and legitimizting the next War On Something it's in the cards again!

Hypocrisy.

If people can't handle reality, you should accept that not shut it out.
Maybe not radicalizes but seems obvious that censorship sort of 'funnels' the extremists onto the same forums which turn into an echo chamber / amplification chamber for their ideas. It seems like if they were tolerated on other forums that there'd be enough mediating comments to prevent the amplification.
I'd also be interested in seeing studies that echo chambers increase radicalization in the first place. That seems to be a given right now.
Can you elaborate on why you think it's better for the world? I ask from a position of honest ignorance.
So its a great thing for the US if we want to import more stuff?

So its basically saying: I see your 10% Tariff and raise you a 10% discount!
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Article is paywalled so I didn't read it, but I went and looked at the federal reserve's yield curve page[1] and indeed it does look quite inverted.

3 month has been performing better than 10 year for awhile now, but now the 10 year yield has dropped to where it's below the 1 month, 2 month, and 6 month as well and is only slightly better than the 1 year. That's interesting.

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/i...