skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>I bet there's any number of things this person values that simply wouldn't exist without advertising.

That isn't relevant regarding the truthfulness of the author's claim.

Whether or not ads are vital for any industry, product or technology (an extremely complex question by the way, not to be easily dismissed with a dogmatic "X would not exist without advertising") has no logical relation whatsoever to any opinion one might have about ads.
Some kinds are ads arent inherently harmful. Advertising is still cancer though.

Some kinds of mold aren't harmful. That doesn't mean mold isn't a bad thing.
Why is it so hard to use email for design projects?
"I don't have time to transfer the money,I'm literally driving across the country to the meeting,can we do this tomorrow?" ( It takes 1 minute to pull out your phone, login to your bank app and do it).

"Can we just changes this?And this?And then bombards you with 20 back and forth of last minute changes that have never came up in previous 10 meetings you had" (Either can't make up their minds or simply no idea what they want or just delaying payments).
> Anyone who works in start-up growth will tell you the same things I am.

Some who works in adverting values advertising?
Yes, you’re well placed to judge, but I’ve little time for adverts and actually dedicate time to avoiding Facebook (blockers, Pihole etc).

If I miss the odd product or service, so be it. The current situation is toxic.
Every time I read something like this, I roll my eyes - most of these proposals are dead on arrival. By the time this will be in effect, public transit will have been transformed (if not removed) by private, automated transportation.

And then I always think it would be best to build a city from scratch. A great one. With good principles. Time-proofed. Collectively we should know how to do it, but it seems that it's incredibly hard to come up with the resources to do it properly. It's still only a dream.
i said the go community - not the developer community. you couldn't have had that opinion as a go user before go came out.
It's the average sale price of the drug in the US. So, mostly with insurance (~90% of Americans are covered).

(The study was done by HHS and was focused on Medicare, which sets prices based on a weighted average of market sales price, including negotiated discounts by insurers.)
I think you misread that. It mentions "parks in the midwest" as a subcategory of "continental".
Why Does Celeste Feel So Good to Play?
> "There's really nothing stopping any government from tapping into this total surveillance infrastructure other than lack of will."

Why assume a lack of will at this point? We know they routinely approach companies about collecting the data the company collects. They've clearly demonstrated the will to collect our data regardless of legality. (Does/did this site have a warrant canary?)

At this point I treat all ads as hostile. As much as websites try to make you feel guilty for blocking their ads I feel zero obligation to allow or support their efforts to manipulate me or compromise my privacy and security.
Dapper really is such a weird edge case. You still write all the sql, all it does is the conversion from a type to the input parameters and the returned rows into objects where the row names match the parameters of the class. Frankly I feel like that's the right way to build ORMs in all languages that have the facilities to manage it (and maybe those that don't you pass in a function pointer to do the dumping of rows into type for you)
Node v10.16.1 (LTS)
> It's not like the money magically vanishes to never be seen again

No, it remains in corporate budgets, which, without all the marketing spend, can be shifted to better wages, charity work, capital investments, better wages, safety and health initiatives, better wages...
Autonomous transportation - the same story that Uber and Lyft are saying as the savior for their businesses that will help them finally turn a profit.
Well, those AWS Associate certs ain't beanbag.

However, if you haven't had the service blow up in your face a few times, you'd better have a photographic memory to pass those certs.
Nein danke. I cannot envision the "future board" well enough to play NORMAL chess very effectively. I cannot imagine not being able to see the enemy pieces at all.
I don't hold it against tigers and lions

I additionally wouldn't hold it against a tiger or lion for eating me. I'd certainly attempt to avoid it, but I won't blame the animal. Animals eat other animals. We're animals. While not eating other animals seems morally virtuous, I don't necessarily see it as a moral imperative simply because we can think about it in a more abstract way than other animals likely can.
I was diagnosed with cancer this week. I couldn't bring myself to read the article and came here only to see if I needed to make this exact comment myself or if someone like you already had.
Dr. Gwynne Dyer – Geopolitics in a Hotter World (2010)
Show HN: Attribute.pro – A cross-domain traffic attribution solution
Less than 3% of cattle wander around eating wild grass. Most cattle are fed grains, grass, and alfalfa that was farmed on purpose as cattle feed. If cattle didn't need the grass, the farmer would be growing human food on that land.
This may be practical from the point of view of 'top level applications' in Go. But there is a lot of murk in pure Go implementations of databases, and datastructure heavy libraries that could be avoided and lead to better testing and less duplication. If you find it simpler to avoid generics that ought to be possible under this design.
Canola oil (and all plant products) have no cholesterol; red meat is high in cholesterol.
Hi HN; Just sharing a thing I built.

https://Attribute.pro

Why? I needed a solution for a client, and I wanted to make it re-usable.

Built with 1 single Cloudflare worker. No server, no database.
Funny, I’m the opposite. I perform horribly under pressure induced by other people, but great under pressure that is only self-induced. I ran track in college, and my coach was always annoyed that my fastest times would be at practice on the track by myself rather than in a race with competition. Same with research in grad school, and to some degree programming in my full time job. I’d like to swap with you for a while haha.
Feminists actually do things to solve issues, they're not just bitching on the internet.

All these "meninists" like /r/mensrights or AVoiceForMen and other toxic communities only make it harder for men. Women are not the enemy.
If projects as large as Linux or Wikipedia can thrive without ads, I'm sure a Google-quality search engine can do the same. So far it hasn't been done because the ad-supported model is promising more money to anyone who tries; but if the ad-supported model goes away, you'll see a good non-ad-supported search engine soon enough. It could be P2P and free (like Mastodon, which proved that social networks don't have to rely on ads), or it could be paid (like your Windows license or your internet connection).
Generics are to types what HKT are to type signatures. In functions, they usually map to arity. That is, an arity mismatch is are a higher-kinded type mismatch. An easy (if not totally accurate) way to view them is like doubly-generic types.

If you have some type A, it has the kind * . If you have some function from A -> B, it has the kind * -> * .
People were offended by advertising in the same way in the 1970s.

Advertising offendees will always be offended no matter where advertising sophistication is at.
Having to wait for your CI to tell you that you've done something wrong takes a lot longer than a pre-commit/pre-push hook.

I agree that running expensive operation on commit doesn't make a lot of sense (temp commits and whatnot), but it's nice to bail out quickly before pushing.
"many of those marvelous US things were created by expat teams" is that a fact ? or your projection of reality.

Edit: since facts are facts are facts: at most US companies can have 15% of visa holders in their workforce.

I'm going to wait here and watch Portugal become the next global leader in tech because of better certification of engineers. Give me a ring when that happens ok?
What are the other models that exist and are currently working? As someone who is looking to build a free consumer product, I don't know what else exists that can offset my costs other than advertising. I hate paywalls just as much as advertising, so I'm opposed to just charging for access.
I haven't read the article yet, but I was thinking about this yesterday. I was sitting in my car and a sign that had "RENT TO OWN" on it where "RENT TO" was flashing. I felt offended by the fact that my attention was taken from me all for the sake of drawing me in to spend my money on something I didn't care about or need to know about during that time. I know that there are physical limitations on what you can say is or is not acceptable for an advert; the implications on free speech would probably be too much to ever be able to pass any meaningful changes, but, to me, advertising is an assault on your senses that you have no control over.

It made me think of a future where AR is highly prevalent. What will your life be like? Will you have to pay to not have adverts stuck in your face all the time? To me human attention is valuable and it should be protected. I'm concerned for future generations as technology is going to progress further.

I don't have a full argument formed, but in my opinion we should rethink what should be allowed in regards to advertising in the internet age. Why is advertising required at this point with services like google? Could you just have a regulated service directory that operates similarly to google instead?

To those of you that are reading, I get it, yeah we wouldn't have services today without advertising, but now that we have technology, isn't most advertising antiquated? If I really do need something, I'll look for it and let technology bring the service or product to me.
I also believe we live in an attention economy.

The OC is a good rant, list of grievances.

Missing from his cancer analogy is the feedback loop.

The cancer is monetization and preferential attachment (recommendation engines) leading to outrage culture.

Any remedy, mitigation would interrupt or add friction to that feedback loop. No more retweets. Require all statements to be sourced. Hinkley's notion (elsewhere) of not allowing ads to be treated as biz expense. And so forth.

None of those things will happen. Until...

Advertising today is like petroleum wildcatting in the early days. The bottom will fall out when everyone wises up to the con. Then investors will demand US Govt intervene with regulation, to save the market.
You are expected to know what TSMC is if you are reading this... People wouldn't expand AMD to Advanced Micro Devices and then explain it develops CPU (Central Processing Unit, in case you didn't know!), would they?
"Why do buses not count? Because you don't like them? Your definition of transit is not shared with most people."

Don't shoot the messenger.

There is a vicious cycle of under-investment (fulfilling transit goals with half-assed bus routes instead of making real investments in lightrail/subway) poor service, and resulting lack of utilization among middle class voters ... which leads to further under-investment (since none of us are going to take the bus) ...

I am not talking about SF or NYC. I am talking about every other city in the US that matches this description perfectly.
I had a good laugh about it,but the reality is that there are millions out there who couldn't be asked to move a finger but be more than happy to get a manager title and show others what to do.
Each of those companies has a FOSS competitor that does not rely on advertising money yet still exists.
Show HN: Make a lowlatency, realtime multiplayer game with edge computing
I had a Beyond Meat burger recently. It was pretty good, about as good as a below-average to average burger, but more tender. Overall, if this is all they served at the cafeteria, it would be okay.

That said, it wasn't nearly good enough for me to buy instead of meat. Maybe the day will come where it will be, but definitely not yet.
Maybe they're valuing inferior products they only prefer due to advertisements?

Imagine how much better our world would look without advertising. Will some adtech devs lose their job? Yes, but honestly it would probably be worth it. They'll find work in a non-scummy industry and can be a net positive for humanity.
Considerably more water is used to raise cattle than plants. And then the plants that they feed on also need water.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

This is a wonderful resource to see exactly how massive of a change in C02 this is.

It also goes into detail on many of the effects we are seeing now in response to climate change.
I keep seeing articles like this, but saying something over and over again does not make it true. I feel this could be proven by demand. While I'm sure people who were already put off by meat are loving the availability of meatless options, I do not see any meat eaters (in my life) who are lured to the plant-based alternatives.

These alternative meats taste good with all the stuff you also associate with hamburgers (bun, lettuce, tomato, onion, sauce), but on their own, they do not come close to beef.
Apple has been selling computers that cost more than their competitors for over 40 years. Do you think they have been that successful just based on a “status symbol”?

The average person doesn’t even care about computers that much anymore.

Besides, computer sales are only 11% of their revenue.

https://sixcolors.com/images/content/2019/financials-2019-7-...
What a stupid idea.
Google used to do just that, and the ads used to be so good that often I queried things there just for them.

Nowadays neither the ads nor the results have any relation to what you search.
I've worked at an organization that failed to advertise its products, causing massive inefficiency & waste - lots of people have access to our technology but don't know about it and end up implementing the same basic CRUD app over and over.

Don't underestimate the economic loss caused by people just not knowing there's a better way.
I don't know about struck gold -- they were the only game in town with a 7nm node available.
Which interfaces-based solution?

The one used by sort is a hack that only works for some of the things that you would want to do.

The one where you use introspection performs badly and isn't typesafe.

The tree implementation in the article cannot be done in a safe and performant way in Go today.
While I’ll agree he never uses the phrase “arms race”, he does say this:

>The growth of advertising is fueled by the enormous waste it creates. In any somewhat saturated market - which, today, is most of them - any effort you spent on advertising serves primarily to counteract the combined advertising efforts of your competitors.
If they know more about you they can show you one at the top of your price range. Or maybe they know you like to finance things and they can show you a monthly payment. They could also show you one that happens to be your favorite color. Or if they know your political affiliation they can show you the limited "MAGA" model.
Ah only a strong central government could redirect resources and restrict freedom of speech in such a manner.

In theory this works, in practice it doesn't. Nobody is quite sure about what the dichotomy is between the theory and actual results. Basically by allowing commercial interests to control the direction of capital you get useless areas of inn-efficiency like advertising. The weird thing is, these types of economies still thrive. However, when you restrict and redirect resources in a centrally controlled manner, the economies tend not to thrive.

Nobody really knows why. However there are hints as to why it works. Google, gmail, search, google docs, hangouts and google maps would not exist if it wasn't for advertising. Google and the services and technologies they provide to the world would not exist if they did not receive revenue from ads.
I went that route: https://jrock.us/mta.html

Much better than the MTA's website... though slightly less useful if you're not me commuting to work.

What I learned from this exercise is that:

1) The estimates are consistently inaccurate; downtown trains at Chambers St. always arrive when the clock says "2" (minutes until arrival).

2) They use some sort of distributed cache that doesn't remain consistent; as you bounce between backend instances you get different results, but often the same two results. (The red/green lines under the station names indicate freshness.)

3) The clocks in the stations don't work when it's too hot, but the actual data collection/processing is fine.
Detecting an Open Garage Door with Machine Learn and Computer Vision
Very timely... I recently picked up an old Miele fully automatic espresso machine (grinds, tamps then expells) that's controlled via an 8Mhz 6502 like CPU.

I'm in the process of overriding the cpu with my own controller and adding my own GUI to control/tweak the process.

I enjoyed John's talk and can relate!
But would they buy Coke?
I can't agree that the web worked just fine before Google. It was something completely different and much less useful.
> Every time I read something like this, I roll my eyes - most of these proposals are dead on arrival. By the time this will be in effect, public transit will have been transformed (if not removed) by private, automated transportation.

Every time I hear about self-driving cars being just around the corner I roll my eyes. Most of us will be dead before self-driving cars are in effect, and by then our infrastructure will have already moved on.
Compulsory quote

"Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fight_Club_(film)
It seems absurd that they only need to allocate $31 million for "alternative payments" while the old CEO leaves with close to $20 million in bonuses [0], while the rest of the money in the settlement is basically reserved for them to pay themselves for their "free" credit monitoring.

This whole situation was a good opportunity to set a precedent for companies not taking data security seriously. But they've instead shown everyone that you can really just ignore all of that and hope it's never discovered - even if it is, it's really just a light slap on the wrist. Combining this with the recent Facebook fine [1], it really makes me think that the FTC has become a complete joke.

[0]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/equifax-data-breach-settlement-...

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/20692524/facebook-five-bi...
Name a consumer good that you've bought, that was never advertised
The best part about the system is that it uses big corp’s Hollywood accounting against them.

Oh, per your US tax return, we see that you earned 0.4% profit on your US sales last year. You’d be fine with a 1% royalty after we sell it for half price, right?
This is a very important point, the price of pharmaceuticals in the US is an incredibly complicated and convoluted thing. While every year it appears as if drug prices rise an unreasonable amount, that is only for the uninsured, and ignores the price after rebates system that insurance companies and occasionally some patients leverage to keep their costs lower.

The big issue is that, often even for those who are in fact insured, they have high deductibles, often times resulting in them paying the full price without rebates.
> And they spend even more or marketing which is allowed only in the US and few other nations.

No, most marketing is not direct-to-consumer marketing. Marketing absolutely is allowed in Europe, as evidenced by the massive amounts of money that drug companies spend on marketing within Europe.
May we be allowed cake and ice cream or would you ban those as well? Maybe you can get a special license if it's a birthday?
While true, cholesterol is slowly being exonerated as a villain. My primary care physician no longer orders cholesterol tests, for example.

Sugar, not fat, is the real problem. And those researches that took bribes in the 60's to turn us all against fat.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-in...
> Last time I cooked a Beyond Meat burger I noticed it was 30% canola oil. 30% CANOLA OIL, might as well just inject cholesterol and fast forward a heart attack.

Yes, the Beyond Meat burger does have a substantial amount of canola oil. But what's this about cholesterol and heart attack risk? Canola oil is one of the healthier oils - it's low in saturated fats and high in monounsaturated fats which are shown to actually help fight heart disease. The amount of cholesterol in a Beyond Meat or Impossible Burger is 0.

Let's compare that to even a lean burger (85/15): whose 4oz patty contains 102mg of cholesterol and a blend of saturated fats, trans fats, monounsaturated fats, and polyunsaturated fats. It's terribly unhealthy, and the risks associated with the consumption of red meat are well known.

The Mediterranean diet you promote also includes high amounts of monounsaturated fats (Olive oil). If I've overlooked some other deep seated risk associated to canola oil, let me know.
I feel like closures are a consequence of having functions as first class citizens, so it's not exactly a direct comparison. But I guess I see your point.
I keep on reading that as the standard of living increases around the world the amount of beef consumed increases. It's too early to call peak beef but it's bound to happen if only because the amount of available resources to produce it will decrease. But I suspect that it won't happen during any of our lifetimes.
https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police....
https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-u....
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-....
Japan also has a huge issue with people admitting to crimes they did not commit. https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system....
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572*

@nosuchuser2 said,

"Japan's official murder rate is widely believed to be significantly underreported"

in response to someone noting that Norway's murder rate is 2.5x Japan's murder rate.

None of the articles you linked to even mentions an elevated or misreported murder rate. Instead you linked to articles suggesting that sex crimes are underreported. Sex crimes are actually underreported in just about every industrialized country, US included.

Given that the official murder statistics are what they are, citation is still required
Are the "please donate" notices on Wikipedia not ads?
By the time this will be in effect, public transit will have been transformed (if not removed) by private, automated transportation.

Honestly can't tell; is this because you're massively pessimistic about how long it will take the proposals to come into effect, or because you're massively optimistic about the advent of private, automated transportation?
I read somewhere that Sketch was only possible because of the high quality of osx/quartz at the time. Lots of low level work already done by Apple.
But now that has become the reason they can’t compete with web based tools like Figma
Exactly. I drink energy drinks pretty regularly. With the sole exception of Monster, I've yet to see any ads for any of them (and the Monster "ads" are more sponsorships for various motorsports events that postdate me actually starting to drink the stuff).

Of course, the packaging itself is technically advertising, but still.
Wikipedia almost goes under every year if their banners are to be believed. They have to beg for money to stay open. That's not a ringing endorsement of an "ad-less" model.