skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I think you're making a mistake here. The mistake is to think that something/someone could very convincingly _seem_ to be conscious but somehow not actually be conscious. I would argue that, beyond a certain point, there is no difference.

The Turing Test is a good tool to roll out in these sorts of arguments. People often mention the Turing Test, but have you ever stopped to think how good a conversation would need to be to _convincingly_ pass it?

Dennett gives an imaginary example of a Turing Test conversation in his book Consciousness Explained:

Judge: Did you hear about the Irishman who found a magic lamp? When he rubbed it a genie appeared and granted him three wishes. “I’ll have a pint of Guiness!” the Irishman replied and immediately it appeared. The Irishman eagerly set to sipping and then gulping, but the level of Guiness in the glass was always magically restored. After a while the genie became impatient. “Well, what about your second wish?” he asked. Replied the Irishman between gulps, “Oh well, I guess I’ll have another one of these.”

CHINESE ROOM: Very funny. No, I hadn’t heard it– but you know I find ethnic jokes in bad taste. I laughed in spite of myself, but really, I think you should find other topics for us to discuss.

J: Fair enough but I told you the joke because I want you to explain it to me.

CR: Boring! You should never explain jokes.

J: Nevertheless, this is my test question. Can you explain to me how and why the joke “works”?

CR: If you insist. You see, it depends on the assumption that the magically refilling glass will go on refilling forever, so the Irishman has all the stout he can ever drink. So he hardly has a reason for wanting a duplicate but he is so stupid (that’s the part I object to) or so besotted by the alcohol that he doesn’t recognize this, and so, unthinkingly endorsing his delight with his first wish come true, he asks for seconds. These background assumptions aren’t true, of course, but just part of the ambient lore of joke-telling, in which we suspend our disbelief in magic and so forth. By the way we could imagine a somewhat labored continuation in which the Irishman turned out to be “right” in his second wish after all, perhaps he’s planning to throw a big party and one glass won’t refill fast enough to satisfy all his thirsty guests (and it’s no use saving it up in advance– we all know how stale stout loses its taste). We tend not to think of such complications which is part of the explanation of why jokes work. Is that enough?

Dennett goes on to say:

"The fact is that any program that could actually hold up its end in the conversation depicted would have to be an extraordinary supple, sophisticated, and multilayered system, brimming with “world knowledge” and meta-knowledge and meta-meta-knowledge about its own responses, the likely responses of its interlocutor, and much, much more…. Maybe the billions of actions of all those highly structured parts produce genuine understanding in the system after all."
There is absolutely no way for the DMCA to keep up with the growth that may flow under it! How anyone expects the AG to prosecute every illegal infringer or posessor of illegal numbers is beyond me. There is a good article at https://www.natlawreview.com/article/digital-millennium-copy...
From the error message it sounds like if this was an attacker controlled site configured to require authentication it wouldn't trigger? If so it's not that useful a defense since whether to require auth is entirely under the attacker's control.
Universe Sandbox has an awesome UI!

I think it is custom built tho, but I would love to see how they did it
At least those were adorable, they were like local wildlife.
One way to think about it is that each employees costs $100k or $200k a year.

So for $100M, you can comfortably afford a few hundreds people for a few years with all the office space, benefits and hardware required. A regular small-medium business really, nothing special.
Let alone cost, one thing that boggles my mind is how slow infrastructure building is in the US. In our area, a multi-billion dollar freeway or subway line will often be constructed with 5 days of a single 8-hour shift. I get that certain work needs to be done at night, but surely the work sites shouldn't sit empty for 16 hours a day!

Just think about the cost of equipment being rented, the overhead that is on salary, the amount of work to startup and shutdown the site for the day, and the opportunity cost lost by not having it done 2-3x as fast.

It's seems like it would be a no-brainer to have 3x the workers and get the job done in 1/3 the time.
The "Delete, Cancel, Save" is when you close a new document without having saved it. In your scenario, it's basically saving as it goes. The document will just close, without a dialog, but your changes will be saved.

macOS is trying to do away with the concept of "unsaved changes" altogether.
>it forces us to pay at the end instead of upfront

I've been to plenty of places where you pay up front, and they still ask for tips. I wouldn't expect tipping to factor into this nearly as much as encouraging you to get another drink or dessert without having to get a separate check for it.
> I think more accurately, a business owner cannot pay less than minimum wage

In food service, never say “cannot”!
According to https://www.gamespot.com/articles/this-is-how-much-the-witch..., 240 is just the number of in-house staff. The full count of people who worked on the project came to more like 1,500.
and with those removals and tweaks, you erase the fundamental core of humanity - appreciation of beauty, fear of strength, and the journey of the hero to save the damsel.
Warrant proof communication is absolutely in the best interests of the citizens for exactly the same reason it's not in the best interest of the ruling government.
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We are notoriously unable to estimate the time required to complete software projects. Most of us have zero practical knowledge of civil engineering.

Expertise in one field does not automatically confer expertise in another.
You say that but they get things done while we build nice mansions for contractors instead.
Doordash is so stupid. I should be able to tip after I get my order, not before. Until they fix that, the model is backwards and broken for the consumer
> I don’t fully buy that we can’t work this out. The author gives examples of how it’s difficult to compare, but what those examples show is that yes, to compare properly you need to go very deep on some parts to find out why design decisions were made the way they were. This may be more time consuming and cost more but it’s doable.

That's exactly what the author is advocating for, so I'm not sure what your point is. Heck, the last line of the article is "It would be worth paying to get the answers even if that would be very expensive."
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I worked for one company where if you worked less than 5 hours over, it was considered casual and not paid. If you worked 5 or more then it was all the extra hours were paid. But it was always straight time.
Well I do not think the issue is about following the unwritten rules.
The issue is for a company to admit "yeah we're willingly programing/training our vehicles to break the law". Sure, it might be actually less dangerous to do so, but I'm not sure their PR department will be happy about it.
I've never talked to anyone who actually used accessibility tools. I'm aware of the W3C standards. Are there any other resources that developers can use to produce stuff that works well with real-world accessibility software?
Most governments won't kill you, your family, friends and and anyone you could have communicated with if you release the backdoor.
A lot of hate towards Vegetarians and Vegans was also started by the food and meat industry. Watch "Fed Up" and "Cowspiracy" how the food industry felt threatened by people reporting its actions. The food industry is very powerful and created various stereotypes on purpose to protect its images and brands.
Out of all the ways he could get his point across, you think he just landed within a hamming distance of 2 of a misleading one on accident?

>But then I can't imagine a layperson having any idea what almost any of the sentence you quoted means anyways so your point seems pretty moot.

You're not being honest here. If you can't imagine it, it is because you're not trying. People walk away with impressions, even if they don't retain the facts. He always writes to give an impression, not to give facts. Facts are always the cover for the impression.

Here's another example from the article:

>But what is actually going on in a phase transition? I think the clearest way to see this is by looking at an analog in cellular automata.

Is he being honest here? Is this actually the best way to understand a phase transition? And is this cellular automata the one he should be using?

Of course! It's His Holy Cellular Automata. It must be introduced, even if only in passing.

Yeah, "it's fine." He knows what he knows, and you can't fault someone for speaking to what they know. But it is a grating and self-serving stylistic choice, and it does undermine his message. But if you're an investor or someone looking for a savior to worship or a bandwagon to jump on, he's certainly got all the answers for you.
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Some of those vulnerable jobs pay incredibly well.

Part of their vulnerability does come from near worthless job-injury/termination/severance pay because, on paper, take-home pay is far less than actual.
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If the prosecution has such convincing evidence that the drives contain the images they say, then why do they need to compel the defendant to do anything at all? If it's such a foregone conclusion, why not just go ahead and try him on the child porn charge?
people actually tip delivery drivers? Unless there was something exceptional (they were super quick, etc.) I never tip.
> Tipping makes servers actually care about doing a good job.

Tipping incentivizes servers to care about getting more tips. This is why there is a stereotype of American servers rushing you out of your table to seat the next party, upselling on more drinks/food, and constantly interrupting the setting by "checking on" the party.

A good waiter gets the main plates on the table after appetizers are finished and responds when I flag them. They are a queuing manager that synchronize orders to the kitchen to optimize delivery to the table. Tipping does not inherently incentivize this, and I'd say it actually incentivizes the worse service in the form of clearing the table as fast as possible in order to acquire the next table's round of tips, or as is often the case, crowding a table up with every appetizer, side dish, entree, and drink the table wanted throughout the dinner.
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Co-founder and CTO of Gusto here.

This is a REALLY good question and something that's hard to appreciate until you actually to build a payroll system. I think a common misnomer is that if you're not doing ML/AI/AR/blockchain/[insert latest technology here], you're not doing R&D.

The domain of Payroll turns out to be an incredible complex business domain. I think Ron Jeffries says it best in his post: http://wiki.c2.com/?WhyIsPayrollHard

The software design of such a complex business domain at scale turns out to be an incredibly hard engineering challenge, and something that is often overlooked when we think about big engineering challenges.

A little known fact is XP and Agile were developed by Kent Beck while working on a Payroll system for Chrysler (In fact, Kent now works at Gusto to help us with our payroll system).
Wait, Matthew D. Green? The famous cryptographer?

If a bank teller encourages me to rob the bank he works at, it doesn't mitigate the fact I robbed the bank. It doesn't give green lights to customers to rob banks.

I'd also encourage you to take a less anodyne view of contracts as immutable suicide pacts and more like a business arrangement that's beneficial to both parties. If the terms become too onerous companies aren't going to go bankrupt honoring them.

Besides, if he didn't commit fraud, why didn't the courts side with him?

And using legal loopholes to exit unfavorable contracts happens all the time in the real world, it's not some travesty of justice. Sounds like this guy got millions' worth of value for the 400K he spent, he should be happy he got what he did.

BTW love your work! Big fan.
What reason do you have for claiming that total compensation will remain the same? The article certainly doesn't say that.

If they did that, it would inevitably be found out and lead to an even bigger scandal. That would be worse than doing nothing.
yeah, lol. once you do it once, you'll never do it again.

Add tip. Delivery driver fucks up the order/super late/spills your drink. Too late! already tipped.
why do you think Iran and north Korea are the only countries that we need to deter from launching nukes?
Just one datapoint but When I left Segment (400-500 employees), they were still ok Gusto
Bribery is legalized in the US in the form of campaign contributions. In fact, the Supreme Court determined it was speech, something whose freedom is enshrined in the constitution.
java interfaces.

I think the concept of coding to an interface (or an API specification) goes beyond what java did. In my professional life, I see people constantly downplaying and ignoring importance of a formal and stable API specification, just to suffer consequences later.
The former is only going to be true if you pay them in cash; I don't believe credit tips are so easy to hide. The latter is inconsequential.
Yeah if we stopped taking everything so seriously we would get more things done.
I think a ton of people bought them because they weren't that much more expensive and compatibility was such a headache in those days, it was worth it for the peace of mind alone.
Sort of a side note, if police kick down the wrong door (this happened not long ago) they're not justified in pursuing murder charges in that case. If they served the right warrant at the right address than yes, that is justified.

This entire write up stinks and I don't trust the government to implement this overreach in any sort of way which benefits the average American citizen. :(
Lol to be fair, I don't know much about computer science either. Also, n-gate does a really good job of calling out the perception you're expanding on in your edit, and is usually fairly funny to boot.

As a bonus, the only thing that seems to be more common than someone on HN appearing out of touch with reality, is someone on HN trying to bring up how often HN appears out of touch. Be the change buddy :)
nope! we've had it for many years now!
There's a followup on properties of English which is also good fun: https://www.princeton.edu/~wbialek/rome/refs/shannon_51.pdf
I just created a whole playlist of what I think kids should learn for basic data analysis here : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoDI7JNsZEp8aNw2OaaOJ...
PASETO is a marked improvement and doesn't have the specific problem mentioned here, by using versions instead of an attacker-controlled alg field.

One of the things that makes "The JWT Problem" such a hard post to write (and not one we've already just written) is that the cryptographic flaws are but one problem; architecture implications are another. So, to say "yes go use PASETO" instead implies that something "like" PASETO or JWT is even the right answer, and in the vast majority of cases where we've seen JWTs applied at Latacora that has not been the case.
Would you feel equally comfortable applying the same concept to your own job?
The real answer is that we don't yet know enough about how the brain works to work effectively on this problem. We don't know what questions to ask or how to break down the problem into smaller problems.

We may get there. Read something about how vision works from a century ago, when nobody had a clue. The first real progress came from "What the Frog's Eye Tells the Frog's Brain" (1959).[1] That was the beginning of understanding visual perception, and the very early days of neural network technology. Now we have lots of systems doing visual perception moderately well. There's been real progress.

(I went through Stanford CS at the peak of the 1980s expert system boom. Back then, people there were way too much into asking questions like this. "Does a rock have intentions?" was an exam question. The "AI winter" followed. AI finally got unstuck 20 years later when the machine learning people and their "shut up and calculate" approach started working.)

[1] https://hearingbrain.org/docs/letvin_ieee_1959.pdf
I have an accountant and theyre tech savvy and thats pretty much how it all works.
> If text is softwrapped, then there's no way to prevent that text from getting wrapped unless you use some time of mark up like HTML or markdown

Precisely. HTML and markdown separate content from presentation, so content that should never be wrapped - like ```code``` or <blockquote>code</blockquote> is handled properly.
The subservience of intellectualism to politics seems obvious to me. Typical public online discourse is shackled.

Goodhart's law is a big mechanic purging intellectual discussion.

If you're in a right leaning, 'non political' forum and you post about potential impacts of climate change, you'll almost certainly be put on blast.

If you're in a left leaning, 'non political' forum and someone posts 'climate change is going to turn Earth to Venus and we're all going to die choking' and you respond "that seems like unrealistic histrionics" you will almost certainly be put on blast.

There is verdant field of potential discussion between those two posts and it's very difficult to play there. You can, in certain sanctuaries.. but in public, 90% of the gradient causes someone to foam at the mouth if they suspect your political alignment is opposite theirs.
I think your second interpretation looks right. Media has this rather irritating habit of not simply saying that "Most people can't afford" these services. Instead they come up with bullshit like "value-conscious", "value/price-sensitive" "hard negotiator/bargain hunter" etc.

Poverty/Income level topics are reserved for UN or WHO type reports and research papers.

Regarding 'piracy vs content for money' I'd add in Indian context it is same thing. People pirate not because high idealism like "content wants to be free" but mainly because most people can't afford any better. If one reverse argument and say people will stop pirating if content is conveniently available like via netflix it will still not work because even 2 dollar/month is too expensive for people who would rather have rented pirated DVD for 5-10 cents and multiple families watch together.
This is why I hate Python. The default for Python is slowness and an incompatibility with the multicore world we live in. What does it sacrifice these two first class citizens for? Shaving a few seconds off of writing types, which has also been proven to be fundamentally incompatible with team written software. Now we all get to write slow cli tools and write type annotations anyway.

I would love to see people put efficiency at the top of every requirement list. With languages like Rust you don't even have to sacrifice productivity or safety to get it.
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Contemporaneous to Keyhole which became Google Earth, there was an open source project called WorldWind:

https://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/

It's changed a lot over the years, but I figure it belongs in this thread no matter what form it's presently in.
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This title is different than the article, and seems to imply as fact what is merely an unverified claim in the book.

Title: "‘Spotify Untold’ book claims CEO Daniel Ek was taunted by Steve Jobs with mystery phone calls"

In the article: "As stress sets in, Ek becomes convinced that Apple’s Steve Jobs is calling his phone just to breathe deeply on the other end of the line, he purportedly confesses to a colleague. ..... We [the authors] have that from a trusted source. Whether Steve Jobs actually called Daniel Ek is something we can’t verify. To us, Ek’s claim is as a reflection of how paranoid and anxious he must have felt ..."

"Daniel Ek declined to speak to them as they wrote the book" (so authors were going on second-hand accounts from Spotify executives and investors)
Well this is why I point out the community prospects. Most of these new RTS do a really bad job of finding people to play with and especially when you are new and figuring out how to play competitively in a new game you can have extremely high variance of success. If you are just playing with a small group, sure eventually a few will rise to the top but that's not the criticism I have. In older RTS like BW or Homeworld there was chat/clans/reasons to bump into new people for casual or ladder play. In newer ones that sort of community building tool rarely exists at the peak of interest. The competitive community creates other resources to play against other than known friends (the friend aspect for me was always the compare notes/develop new strategies/test things against each other sort of thing).

You comment that in RTS 1v1 and if you are having an off day you are going to keep losing. That's true, but I find MOBA worse in overall enjoyment if you keep losing. I don't mind losing 1v1 and can stop anytime because it's just me. With a MOBA one player playing exceptionally rarely pulls the odds in your favour where one player playing exceptionally poorly swings the game entirely in the other direction. You are actively incentivized to not abandon the game (socially and mechanically) so even if a game starts going south you can't just reset the pieces on the board and start again. If I am playing an RTS I can just gg out at any time without causing a problem, with a MOBA I'm stuck with one or more player's bad decisions for the entirety of the game which could stretch to 50 minutes or more. I also find that unless you 5-man it's really a terrible experience for hours in/enjoyment out. This is more a criticism of the current generation of MOBAs than anything. As a team game there are other kinds of games others can carry the game harder in competition and make up for a player's skill/bad streak (MMO, FPS). MOBAs also don't really have any lack of complexity in being successful it just is mostly an exchange of active skills for passive/booklearned skills so it is my opinion that it is not a good defining line between the two since if you take the net skill(active+passive) from both I find most RTS and MOBAs to be comparably equivalent levels of complexity.

I would rather lose a 100 times and be responsible for 100% of it than lose 5 times and be responsible for 15% of it but be hitched to the burning wagon the entire time it falls off the cliff (and have little agency in stopping it). I do agree that there is a certain kind of player that can't handle losing 100 times in a row and learning from their mistakes, and that's probably why there are less RTS games recently than there used to be.
Stretch is supposed to keep getting security fixes until June 2022 but this particular library doesn't have the fix backported yet: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2019-13615
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I fully expect you are correct. I'm sure the engineers riding along are well aware how overly conservative they're being.
I feel like the patent is suggesting the theft is the worse one. But I feel like almost everyone would agree that the friend, who you willingly gave the picture to, is the worse person because they betrayed your trust.

I just don't get the analogy.
If the only reason Wolfram is writing about Feigenbaum in the first place is because it promotes his product, that makes it seem even more self-serving.