skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Moderator bias is the perception the mind leaps to when running into moderation one dislikes. But people's views of moderator bias are as varied as their feelings on the underlying topic. Actually, they're identical to their feelings on the underlying topic—simple introspection will reveal that to anyone. If it helps at all, I can tell you that when we see flamebait going the other way we try to moderate it just as much.

Moderation work has a weird side-effect that is elusive to describe but is relevant to this question. When you routinely have to moderate angry arguments, where neither side will concede so much as a grain of sand or a drop of water to the other, you often end up in an intense position where one or both sides turn their frustration onto you instead and decide that you are the problem. Sometimes it seems as if that's the one thing they agree on! The side-effect is that over time, this seems to gradually change how your brain functions. You start to think less in terms of agree/disagree and more in terms of the container as a whole.

People often make claims about our personal biases and views, but from my perspective they're always curiously off, because they miss this weirdness of how moderation changes a person over time. I've compared it to having one's brain sandblasted (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16361266). Dwelling in the crossfire has altered how I see many of these high-energy topics. My views have become more friable—smaller in scope and less welded to the infrastructure of the major positions. For example—speaking personally now, not as a moderator—it seems obvious to me that there's no factual dispute in the current thread. That is, there's no contradiction between state infiltration of corporate and academic environments being a thing, and misguided persecution of honest researchers also being a thing: not only could both of those be true, it's actually hard to see how they wouldn't go together. Yet people each pick one of those two and use them as spears to joust with.

What's happening is that our loyalties keep us from widening the frame enough to incorporate all available information. Instead we try to exclude any information that 'helps' the other side and block it when they try to bring it up. Most heated arguments now appear to me to be of this nature. At root, we can't and won't hear each other's stories. In this way the gruntwork of moderation has turned out to be a protracted exercise in forcible frame-widening—something that is painful in its little steps but also has an expanding effect that may (or may not) be worth it.
The title of this article is phenomenally bad. Yes outlawing encryption certainly is an outcome, but just like the article says even the executive branch is split on this issue. Much better title would have been "US Govt Renews End to End Encryption Debate"
Wouldn't most low-profile billionaires do that by default, if they don't get involved in politics?
If you're interested in contributing: https://gnunet.org/en/engage.html
> This isn't a data play…

Of course that's a significant (the most significant?) aspect of Libra for Facebook. Do you know much about their business model and history?
I have tried to get started on meditation/mindfulness several times but I have never been able to stick with it. Any suggestions on a good way of getting started with it?
there's routinely news of Chinese scientists and engineers caught with some kind of industrial secret stolen from their employer trying to go back to China in a hurry.

tl;dr - State actors make getting away with it much easier.

State actors providing cover is one of the serious issues with corporate security today. I was discussing this with coworkers over a decade ago when I was consulting inside a petroleum multinational. We could all see how we could exfiltrate valuable trading data. That would have been trivial. What was anything but trivial was the notion of getting away with it afterwards. None of us would seriously consider touching that with a ten foot pole. Even back then, however, we were talking about someone with the cover of a foreign state. That lowers the bar for "getting away with it" by a large margin, primarily by reducing the time for evading detection and capture from the rest of your life to a few weeks or months.

Disclosure: I'm Asian and my wife was born in China and has multiple degrees, including one PhD. She was once a foreign born Chinese academic.
It's not what a war is, but I don't expect most people living in first world industrialized countries to understand what a war is, it's been completely outsourced to third world countries. This isn't even about nationalism, you're just wrong. If we were at war with China you'd know, because every major population center in both countries would have been leveled before you even knew it was happening.
I believe that is illegal in certain countries and states. For example California has two party consent for recording conversations.
No, it's a problem of how do you order the cool new toy being advertised to you on FB, online, if all you have is physical cash?

You can't throw cash at your mobile phone (and 500m+ in these markets have internet and phones, and many have Facebook already).
"A month after resign­ing, she left her husband and two children in the US and took a job as dean of a school of public health in Shanghai."

Where does her family now live? This seems to say she got a divorce and moved to China?
My understanding is that the currency would be pegged against a basket of bonds, they would keep the interest from those bonds. I don't believe transaction fees are currently part of the plan, but of course that could change. The registration fees are basically for the ICO, (well the right to run the transaction processing) so it doesn't go to Facebook but into Libra.

How much control Facebook has? In the future they 'would like' to make it fully independent, that isn't how it will be launching though.
That may have changed?

https://guide.elm-lang.org/interop/

> But what happens when you need to do something in JavaScript? Maybe there is a JavaScript library you absolutely need? Maybe you want to embed Elm in an existing JavaScript application? Etc. This chapter will outline all the available options: flags, ports, and custom elements.

I haven't looked at it in depth yet.
Recognizing it was first-order approximation, two significant problems with the comparison:
1. E-bike riders likely to travel much faster. Since drag is quadratic, change in consumption significant.
2. The important energy comparison might not be manual bikes, but other modes of transit. A current driver/transit-rider might choose to bike 15 miles each way only if on an e-bike.
Linus Torvalds Sees Lots of Hardware Headaches Ahead
I don't get why an academic researcher in the United States who has contributed to our body of medical research is the enemy.
You can link your SO account to more than one email.
Not OP but sure. Having both a vast trove of data on user behavior, emotions, and financial background coupled with its own financial system is deeply concerning.
As I explained at the top, please do not cross into nationalistic flamebait here, nor post in the flamewar style to HN generally.

(Also, while I have you: can you please not use allcaps for emphasis? The guidelines include that, and explain what to do instead. I know it sounds trivial, but doing that is the online equivalent of yelling.)
If your assumption is that China is at war with you, then you will only look for evidence to support that. And by the way, who do "us" represent in your "at war with us"?
Standard rm (coreutils) has included rootfs protections since at least 2012:

--no-preserve-root
do not treat '/' specially
--preserve-root
do not remove '/' (default)

https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/coreutils/rm.1.en.html

Mind that if your rm comes from elsewhere (say, Busybox), it may not have that protection.

Very careful use of rm as root is an excellent habit to cultivate.

As are backups.
They are already bought in as members in the Association, written in whatever bylaws for the Swiss non-profit. How does Facebook subvert that without violating Swiss law? And how do they control the currency when, by design (the source code for their implementation is open-source) they only have 1 vote in the consensus?
I understand what you and OP are getting at and I'm saying it's wrong but it misses the broader point that others posters were positing. The exact same point I came to make but found myself in good company. Why?!? And it's not specific to JS or a direct criticism of JS, this issue it becoming endemic. It's happening everywhere now. We shouldn't have to depend on language specific hacks to make things "work" in that language. JS has gotten so out of hand now we have/need new metalanguages like TypeScript, CoffeeScript, Bable, (insert buzzwordy JS lang here) that transpiles into JS because it's become so unwieldy. All this just to be able to make a simple web app. The fact that V8 can parse JSON faster than processing a native JS literal is a compiler problem. Why is it suddenly my problem? It's one thing if it's a bug that we have to temporarily work around (these things happen) but now it's becoming the norm. How are people new to the industry supposed to learn something like JS if the only way to be proficient at it is through an endless, ever changing array of hacks? Especially when it's something as counterintuitive as parsing a string is somehow faster than the actual equivalent code. The "move fast and break things" mentality that has permeated tech as of late has done just that, got us nowhere fast and broke everything along the way.
This suggests that everyone going to college is doing well. That isn't the case. There are people who have master's degrees, but are earning $15/hour.

I agree with your point that populations can change over time. Fifty years ago, many people didn't get degrees and made good money. Today, people without degrees (and some with) don't make good money.

So instead of trying to segment in groups (the college educated vs. everyone else), let's just look at everyone. This removes the concern of our shifting populations.

One metric to look at is median income. Adjusted for inflation, it hasn't budged much in decades. In the past 42 years, it's increased about 32 percent.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N
An end to a policy of sanctions?
It's basic supply and demand. Globalization puts high downward pressure on wages because people in Asia can live on far less money than Americans. If you have to raise prices because of higher cost of living then your customers simply buy from somewhere else. Then there are certain degrees with too many graduates which flood the market which results in lower wages. Others have a shortage of graduates which means the companies have to hire from a labor pool where everyone is employed and therefore have to outbid their competitor to hire anyone at all. Add double income households which compete for rivalrous (if I have it, you don't have it) goods like housing and the end result is the US economy.
The way they are doing it seems illegal... However at my work we host all our meetings through zoom and record them all.
Yammer is more like a private Facebook.
StackOverflow is a technical trove.
Distinctly different goals.
> in practice are written by the industries the consumers are supposedly being protected from, in order to create barriers to entry and destroy competition.

Requiring 3rd party certification that your food/vape juice/whatever won't harm me should definitely be a barrier to entry. If that means there's less competition and higher prices, so be it. Consumer safety should come before the need for more competition and lower prices.
Awesome idea, however I dislike the use of JSON for any kind of data format. YAML although less standard is widely used, machine readable and also has the advantage of being much more human readable.
I'm saying there were large-scale forces at work during WW2 that forced many people into that pattern. It's much harder to do on an individual basis without those forces, but can be done sometimes.

Among other things, I paid down debt while homeless. My last student loan payment was made in July 2017. I was back in housing in September the same year.

Of course, your framing sounds like I'm being accused of blaming the poor. I'm not. I'm just questioning the assertion of the article because it honestly doesn't fit with what I have read of history.

The Baby Boomer generation is the children of the WW2 veterans. It was a very widespread phenomenon.

There are factors at play now that are definitely different from then. Most new houses in the 1950s were about 1200 sqft. Now they are nearly 2500 sqft.

We desperately need to do something about our housing supply. But most people don't want to.
BTW I Use Arch Linux, Milano Pride 2019
So, if you use Facebook's wallet app, I'm sure they'll use that data for themselves, of course, as with everything on Facebook.

But you DO NOT need a Facebook account to use Libra, and Facebook CANNOT reverse lookup what non-FB Libra account maps to whatever person. So it's not much more useful as a data play than Facebook's existing Payments play.

This is a play for the 1.3 Billion + users that they are getting in droves in their userbase, but currently make them less money than people in first-world markets cause of this payments problem.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you provide a citation? Where does it concretely say that FB will not be in charge of the network when it first launches? The closest I can find is the lawyerly language written here [1] that sounds, on the face of it, purposely misleading: The sentence "In these early years of the network, there are additional roles that need to be performed on behalf of the association" only makes sense if rephrased as "In these early years of the network, there are additional roles that need to be performed BY FACEBOOK on behalf of the association"

[1] https://libra.org/en-US/white-paper/#the-libra-association
Yet, I find that procrastination helps me perform better.
Are there any meta discussion threads of moderation on HN?
The site you want is reddit, and now you know why StackOverflow isn’t like reddit.
So every Chinese person in a US university is the enemy?

That seems more than a little sweeping, not to mention inaccurate.
My currency, run by the Bank of England, is much less scary, and far more useful.
I'm not saying you literally can't sell things in these countries, of course. I'm saying it has this massive barrier right now that creates a high threshold to entering and serving the market compared to the internet-enabled developed world, and that means less money for Facebook advertising in those areas at the moment than they could be having.

More advertisers means more demand means price-per-ad goes up and makes them more money.
> “no officer had a case to answer for misconduct or gross misconduct.”

Pretty suggestive that in this case, the police were able to demonstrate a binding order from someone who was not an 'officer'.
Yeah that makes way more sense.
Hypothetically if they had the technology to create a paperback book that self-destructs when anybody but you opens it, would that business model be illegal? As far as I know, SCOTUS said companies can't use the legal system to prevent resale of their books. But did they say that technical solutions are also banned?
So .. how are people going to get Libra? I can see that they're trying to do an MPesa or Wechat pay thing here, but they still need an on ramp.
Ryanhoffmann
From that very page, second paragraph:

"The association is governed by the Libra Association Council, which is comprised of one representative per validator node. Together, they make decisions on the governance of the network and reserve. Initially, this group consists of the Founding Members: businesses, nonprofit and multilateral organizations, and academic institutions from around the world. All decisions are brought to the council, and major policy or technical decisions require the consent of two-thirds of the votes, the same supermajority of the network required in the BFT consensus protocol."

Edit: the things they are describing that "need to be done by Facebook" likely means software dev work, done in open-source (it's already open-source), cause they have a ton of well paid people already that know how to do this whereas Visa, for example, might not. They are recognizing that early on, they will be doing a lot of heavy lifting, that's all.
I know you probably don't want to give up your editor, but FWIW if you can find an acceptable collection of bindings and python extensions for VSCode the remote development extensions work amazingly well with WSL. I was able to set up a full haskell IDE using haskero in under ten minutes with zero configuration.
LIGO detects probable black hole merger event
The argument is that if you are buying a licence, the retailer is obligated to tell you you're buying a licence. Current advertising, shopping, and checkout flows instead communicate that you are buying an eBook.
"Pretty please" is actually a good default approach for a state X wanting something from another state Y; it shows respect and builds mutual trust. There is no guarantee that request will be fulfilled, but it can start a dialog "we want something in return" that can result in mutual accommodation. When the state X throws out past agreements, starts making higher demands, it is playing very risky game.
Ok ill play, (queen to b 3 5 2 9 3 7 1 9 4 0 7 ;) )

Seriously though, assuming this is a zuckerberg brain fart, is that not more reason to be wary, more reason for regulators to close it down. If compliance are doing contortions to make a bad idea legal, that doesn't seem the best basis for a global currency.
1. Setup few servers operating in different countries, pay for a few years and set up a timer which will publish this algorithm on few public websites, then destroy all credentials, so it could not be undone.

2. Steal bitcoins from very old wallets with some small amounts. Supposedly those wallets are lost. Steal enough to have enough money to live a good life. Well, if for some reason I would have enough money, skip this step.

3. Break google.com certificate and mail hashes to Google Security team. Ask them to disclose that factorization is broken, so the rest of the world can prepare. Repeat with some other big companies.

4. Disclose algorithm when the world is ready.
The relationship goes both ways. hard to say there is anything actionable here
From a US perspective, US misdeeds don't make China any less of a threat. Is the US supposed to react as "Oh they're waging a bit of a trade war on us, but we've sinned as well, so lets let them keep it up"?
Yep, here's the central point of contention: do we build nuclear that emits little CO2 but needs public support, or intermittent sources that pollutes tens of times more for an equivalent service ? Is the priority feel-goodness about what we're doing, or actually solving the problem ?
> That said, historically women have been on the receiving end of physical violence from men far, far more often than vice versa

It is funny how statistics works. If we look at questioners, women and men report the same amount of physical violence from partners. If we look at households the rate of police reports for domestic violence is identical regardless of what gender the inhabitants has.

There is no gender difference in who is on the receiving end of physical violence. There is however a gender difference in the method of physical violence. Women mostly use knives and makeshift weapons. Men mostly use their hands. As is, knives and makeshift weapons don't actually do a lot of damage on average when wielded by someone not trained. Fists however almost always causes damages, especially when repeated.
> How can you verify that the motherboard you sent out is the one you get back

Have your TPM cryptographically validate the components it's attached to. Coupled with a robust blinding implementation, you're only really trusting the chip manufacturers (and their tamper proofing of the silicon) at that point.

Add an ownership model to the TPM and you've solved anti-theft. Then allow for the addition and removal of authorized components by the owner and you've preserved the right to repair.

> and it doesn't have extra hardware inside the case

This is the real issue I suppose. I prefer choosing to trust a particular repair shop over gluing it all together and hoping for the best.
So, by the time enough people were put in parallel, the problem would move to maintaining literally hundreds of bicycle devices, swapping out crews of sweaty bodies with fresh meat, and then keeping everyone hydrated and medically fit.

Sounds like we're several innovations away.

Let's put Elon Musk on the task.
nah ;)
Alright, let's say these people do have money to spend. Cryptocurrenices have existed for about a decade. Libra is supposed to solve the problem because it's backed by reserves? There are already tokens out there backed by real currencies (e.g., USDC). Why aren't these people using those? Surely, if they really wanted to buy the things Facebook is advertising, they would've found a way to get these tokens.
> involved the destruction of the internet

I think we'd probably see each individual nation end up as a pocket in such an event. It depends on what we associate to be 'the internet' but we've seen massive botnets in the last few years that could cripple countries just by themselves.
I was told I could not put paper us bills in my safe deposit box. Bank was Chase dunno if others are the same.
From my perspective there have been zillions.
Why I agree smartphones should be recyclable, I'm not sure it's important in the larger scheme of things. A phone is a very small item, relatively speaking and even at its height, the upgrade cycle was only once every 12 months.

Now consider the sheer volume of trash — paper, plastic, foil, fumes, food, etc. — many individuals and organisations throw out every day. It essentially defies comprehension, but it's a lot. So much that's we've created an incredible reverse supply-chain to get it all out of sight and out of mind as quickly as possible, with the result that we rarely stop to think just how much crap we're all generating.

Set against this, people throwing out a tiny electronic item, even an item containing some nasty toxic stuff inside it, is a very small problem. Smartphones are novel and make for a high-profile target, but the real problem is the more mundane avalanche of detritus that accompanies modern civilisation.
>At the extreme, you can't just pay 100% of the labor market more money because they have a college degree. It just doesn't work like that.

Actually this is exactly what should happen. Maybe the increase in wages isn't as extreme as 100% but it should be at least 2% per year. The problem is that it didn't happen during the last decade.
we used that at school! i can't remember much though – i've used english Logo afterwards and it overwrote most of the polish commands in my memory. the only one i can remember is `np`, the polish equivalent of `fw` ("naprzód" and "forwards" respectively)
Yes, but in the paragraph I quoted, it clearly implies that the network is already live and that some unnamed entity acting "on behalf of the association" is recruiting the founding members, so there is some time period being referenced in which the network is already live and the founding members have not yet been established.

I should point out I'm not necessarily anti-libra, but I just think anyone claiming that we needn't worry because "Swiss Association" seems unreasonably sure of the situation.