skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
For my old house, the previous owner had built out the basement unit beautifully, with a full bath, large full bedroom, and large living room, and 9' feet ceiling that made it look like a normal living space. When I bought the place, I was thrived. It's like a separate unit. But I checked the city's plan, the build-out was not in the plan, so it was built illegally.

Years later when I sold it, I decided to go through the process to bring it up to code. It was a painful and onerous process. Dealing with the city planning department and to be compliant with the regular building code plus the city's own petty codes made me wish I didn't start the process. At various stages of the process, I was at the point of fuck-it and just gave up. Finally got it done after 9 months and extra money. I can certainly understand why people just do it without following the regulation.
I'm genuinely curious. What type of fraud or abuse are you trying to prevent? Maybe cover that in the postmortem.
Your reply almost immediately says you think a jury could be swayed by argument, sentiment or both. Does that not mean an antitrust suit may actually be reasonable, judged by a potently prosecutor?

I think you meant "I don't want them found guilty" which is a different thing. If you really think there is no case to answer I don't think you understand what an antitrust case is about. It's about market dominance and anti competitive behaviour. Something alphabet has already demonstrated they are capable of doing, as in when google, Facebook and apple agreed not to poach Staff and altered the pay rates accordingly, something of which they have already been found guilty.
I had a lot of spam when I tried that. Questions of knowledge were more successful.
Some webpages seem to use captchas to stop (targeted) DDOSs, having a easily defeated (but unique) Captcha might not help in those scenarios.
Are you talking about a small WordPress site or something?

Very, very few tech companies could simply move everything to a new cloud provider in a few hours. I would even hazard a guess that almost none can.

I have all my infrastructure as code and can break it all down and spin it back up in kubernetes clusters in minutes. But due to the quirks of each cloud provider, there are tons of little fixes that would inevitably need to be made.

Not to mention that many companies have way more data than could even be copied over in a few hours.
Thank you for jumping in personally to clarify what happened.

As a business owner with much of our infrastructure depending on DigitalOcean, the incident is concerning. It affects the reputation of DO as well as its customers.

The demographics on Twitter and especially here on HN represents a sizable crowd with decision-making influence on DO's bottom line. I hope to see some effort being made to prevent situations like this in the future, and to regain the trust.

As a (so far) satisfied customer, it's great to hear that:

> A combination of factors, not just the usage patterns, led to the initial flag.

> We recognize and embrace our customers ability to spin up highly variable workloads, which would normally not lead to any issues.

> we are looking into our process and how we responded so we can improve upon this
At no point did DO ever believe this. This happened purely and simply because of usage patterns changing. It was done automatically and a bot locked them out. They should not be locking out data based on an automated script.

You seem to be accusing the aggrieved party of being a bad actor, when that is not the case.
>would you allow the headline "Digital Ocean knew they were serving criminals, and they didn't stop them" if you were CEO?

Seems to work just fine for AWS, Google and Cloudflare. In fact, counter to your argument, Cloudflare got in massive shit when they did decide to play God.
You might like Cardano's Plutus, which is Haskell-like.

https://cardanodocs.com/technical/plutus/introduction/
Sounds good in theory.
When will Apple stop sending me desktop notifications about switching to Safari?
How can I get involved? I don't have any major users behind what I'm doing, but I would like to help make future standards more generic.
Surely there was a support contract option where there were on-call people?
It doesn't. I would hazard a guess that there are zero medium to large companies out there right now that could swap to a new cloud provider in a few hours.
I am sure every business that abuses its employees by classifying them as contractors can come up with a few cases where the people state they like being contractors.

However, in the United States with its tying of healthcare to employment, unless you are single or have a spouse that has coverage, not being an employee has downsides.

I would guess that while some high-profile freelancers might be worse off, a significant number of freelancers would be better off as employees.
They pay a ton of taxes :), payroll, property, etc.

Corporate taxes they pay on profits if you invest a ton you can deduct it from profits. Nothing nefarious going on here.
Clearly the exisiting regulation 45/2001 has a little more wiggle room. FTA:

> This leak would normally constitute a breach of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) if other organisations had done it themselves. However, a spokesman the commission said, based on “legal reasons”, European institutions are separate from the GDPR.
Ya, DO literally has a checkbox for that. Unfortunately, you need to double up.
>Your reply almost immediately says you think a jury could be swayed by argument, sentiment or both...

If this goes to a jury, Google will definitely get off. I seriously hope that doesn't happen.
> the spirit of this ruling

That's pretty much the case for every new legislation, most of which abound in unintended consequences.

At the least they could have been a little more thoughtful and and added exemption clauses if you choose your own hours, own working materials, and similar.
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I hope after the utter trainwreck that is Foxconn in Wisconsin every local government is being more skeptical of these corporate welfare deals.

I'm really tired of seeing fancy corporate lawyers outfox local politicians over and over again, somehow always getting a new record-breaking welfare incentive plan while structuring the contracts such that they have a hundred loopholes and never have to actually do anything for the money. This keeps happening at small and large scales all over the country, and it needs to stop.
It's not how the sausage is made that matters.
The sausage is making ppl sick.
I have no doubt you in your siloed Dev team know very little about what exactly is happening with your final products.
We outside of your bubble are growing tired of your superiors growth at ANY cost company policies.
Take heed bro.
Time is getting kind of short.
The surveillance economy is gonna bust.
I'm gonna help break it- Any way I can.
I'm not the only one thinking Along these lines
I’ll be awaiting the post-mortem and, depending on that and the procedures proposed to stop this from happening again, will hold off moving everything I have from DO.

The real “mess up” here was the bit where you blocked the account with no reason given and no further communication - other than the one-liner your intern wrote for the email.

I’m expecting you to sit down with your legal team and rewrite your TOS to be more customer-focused and less robotic.
Dear Justice Department: Take a look at google AMP and how they use it to strong-arm publishers by linking it to search placement. You'll find some stuff.
Linode support helped me diagnose some rare and obscure Linux OS error. They went above their call of duty and it’s why I’m still a customer.
If DO believed that there was criminal activity (notice I am not using the word "malicious"), they should have reported it to the police, and it that case they might be justified in securing a copy of the data. Blocking access would be justified only in the most extreme cases (such as if the data could be harmful to others, e.g. pictures of minors).

If there is no police report, then they are trying to act as police themselves, which I think is unacceptable. It is not their data.

Your argument that they can do whatever they want with their hard drives is indeed something I will take care to remember — I definitely would not want to host anything with DO.
So we host scores for a sport, as well as inputting these scores. Every year we have a few high traffic events (much higher than normal), and I scale up our servers to support it. However for the last two years there have been outages in their Newark data centre during both of these events. One time it was DNS, all other times it's been data centre wide.

I suspect as they've increased in popularity they've become a bigger target for DDOS attacks.

I've also noticed that in the past year there's been a lot of data centre outages... like every couple months. Hasn't been a deal breaker for us, since our traffic is generally fairly low outside of season, but the ones during seasons really hurt.

Also I'd like to add that they do give you the heads up when there are issues, which is a big plus in my book compared to some other hosts.

I really do think it's just growing pains, and I don't mean to disparage them. Just being honest that I wouldn't recommend them for high availability services. Since I consider them a low budget host that's probably unfair though. We've just outgrown them is all.

This is all anecdotal of course.
iIt would be awesome if you could ask the question on their official github issues. It would be tracked by them, hopefully. I masked similar question about ctlr + X/C command usage.. and got satisfactory response..
'At a hospital, he said, he saw people who had been shot dead, their shoulders shattered and heads smashed. He put his camera away out of a sense of respect.

“Taking those photos is too disrespectful to them,” he said, referring to people whose bodies had been mutilated. “I took photos of people whose bodies could still be considered complete.'"

I'm without words. It's insane that a government would do this to its own people. It's so far outside of my own experience that it feels impossible. You'd think they would openly acknowledge it as a mistake from another time and move on but no.
My gut feeling agrees with "I don't trust the Dev's explanation tbh." Companies and developers often try to get away with doing Bad Things, and cry wolf publicly without offering up specifics about what they were trying to get away with. "Spin up 10 VMs for 500k rows of data" offers no explanation to just what those 10 VMs are doing. There is a big difference between "using memory and cpu" and "saturating the network in abusive ways".

Random speculation of one possibility: each of those 10 instances were suddenly doing something unexpected and spammy with the network. Maybe sending 500k+ emails (one per row of data claimed by the developer) over SMTP in a very short period, or jumping to massive spikes in torrent traffic, or crawling sites to scrape data (maybe each row of 500k is just a top-level domain name, and they crawl every URL on those domains, possibly turning 500k rows into hundreds of million of http requests).

The postmortem will be interesting. If DO is truly at fault here, that email after the second lockout saying the account is locked after review, no further details required... bad.
I met an Uber driver who was doing his PhD in CS and specifically in machine learning!
Wow. well, I will avoid DO at all costs for the rest of my career. There is a reason Enterprises trust AWS, GCP, Azure, and pay for premium support (and startups should, to the best of their financial abilities). He needs to sue or negotiate to recover material damages caused by this.
Most of the guidance is very outdated. It's likely to confuse more than clarify unless you've taken the time to study modern resources. I prefer Bryan Garner's work, like his usage guides.

There is a great episode of Lexicon Valley where the dustier advice from The Elements of Style is called out: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/against-strunk-white/i...
I agree that this was probably the most reasonable decision for them to make.

The fact that there are hundreds of comments on HN condemning them for this action proves my point.
I don't see how after the FTC came up empty the DOJ would fare any better as arguable the sherman act is a much tougher route, and the competition landscape has changed to google's detriment (amazon ads, facebook, etc).

Anyway the article is quite scarce and the source is the WSJ so they might be trying to amplify some stuff or even advocate for it.
Privacy mainly and ownership of data. Something along the lines of GDPR in spirit. I also think the details / fine print matter or loopholes will be found.

I think though that appropriate regulation is going to seriously hamper if not utterly destroy the business models of some really big players.
The change in usage patterns does not appear to be the only flag.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20066331
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I dont even get those and I use Firefox on all my Macs.
What’s wrong with buying competitions?
If you replace Mini USB with Micro USB and replace Micro USB with USB C, most of the answer still makes sense.
I use Macs and iProducts all the time, and I've never seen one of these. What do they look like? What do they say?
Personally I want them to invest in reversing aging. We can worry about saving the planet/exploring space once I can live forever.
It is a big digital camera. They dont stay cutting edge for very long.
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AMP is just the start.
I won't be surprised if we find out Google is promoting websites for using Google Analytics.
QQ mail have this captcha: https://mail.qq.com/
This is how it looks: https://i.imgur.com/9Am4PWu.png
Contradictory Numbers in Google’s Top Search Result for Stem Shortage
Yeah my point is in part that it was the least affected people which means that it was not an existential threat.
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An Ising machine is a photonic computer capable parallel computation and well suited to search problems like traveling salesman.
As a counter-anecdote, I've met a bunch of highly paid software engineers in the Bay area with no degree.
What about the fact that mini-USB was mandated as a connector standard (1) in the European Union to standardize phone charger connections?

(1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_power_supply
Similar thing drives me nuts in GMail for iPad. Every time I open a link, it asks me to download chrome. I say no thanks, and uncheck the default “remind me later” option, yet few weeks later it happens again.

Been going on for a year now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_the_firm
This is a really good point about GDPR making it mostly safe. Making consumer's feel secure in the knowledge that they can ignore massive legal documents on some random website is a win in my book.
Thank you for this. I don’t think OP realizes the immense luck involved in being a person who is naturally interested in (and also has access to) computers from a young age in the current era.

The trick is picking the right thing to be interested in, and the problem is that you can’t force yourself to be interested in something, nor can you predict whether that interest will be lucrative.
DO didn't handle this we'll, but a company that wants to serve "Fortune 500" customers ought to have a more mature process for handling an outage like this. The fact that they didn't makes it hard to view them as a serious, credible business.
Also if you don't have a mortgage or kids. Freelancing is great when you're young, single, and have few long-term obligations. When you get older, well there's a reason mid-life people working mediocre jobs at large corporations don't up and quit for freelance life en masse.
One important difference is that GC isn't baked in, so in a way Wasm is actually lower-level than the JVM.
I’ve been using Hasura for around 3 months now. It has changed the velocity and way I approach our projects. I have a small team that works as a startup inside of a larger organization and this was crucial to delivering some key projects... plus very little code. The event trigger really help reduce our costs as well, using the Serverless.com framework with Lambda Go has been a huge success in our organization!

Thank you to the Hasura team for all you do and in turn allow me and my team to do!
Barbary pirates != Ottoman empire. What you talk about was the effect of a strong empire. A weakened one that couldn't effectively control North Africa also could dominate south-eastern Europe as much.

Everything you say is true and unrelated.
As a Googler, that's a sentiment I have never heard expressed

I've seen a lot of Googlers coming here lately, professing to be Googlers and stating "this hasn't been my experience".

Asked genuinely: as someone inside the company-with much better access to sentiment, opinion and company culture than I could ever hope to have, is Google truly that open and transparent to employees that you actually had an expectation to see this sentiment "expressed" elsewhere?

(I would pose a similar to question to other FAANG employees who do the "as an employee of faang[]:")
'bower install' is a dead give away.
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Yep, it's totally likely they became neurotypical all of a sudden for some other random reason. If several small studies are all pointing in the samd direction, something is probably going on. Meta analysis dude.
In the last ~year Google has admitted to accidentally-but-knowingly stealing $75 million from Adwords customers, and settled a case they had fought four years for $11 million to avoid revealing what happens to a banned Adsense account's unpaid revenue. There is likely several hundred million dollars of fraud just in these two 'edge cases' they ignored handling for decades, so it's definitely time for someone to dig deep into this company.

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-emails-adtrader-lawsu...

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/adsense-lawsuit/248135/
Not using moment will give you back 60k almost three times the savings: 22k
Any chance there'll be some built-in support to perform collaborative filtering? Seems like a database of relations like this would be awesome for user-based collaborative filtering.
Apple doesn’t have 90% market share in anything.
I wouldn't be so sure. Juries can be convinced of anything if you look at past judgements against Monsanto.

I'm not saying that I think Google is innocent but often the evidence is very difficult for the lay person to interpret (especially when it is absent).
We have a relatively large spend ($5k+) @ DO, for a unique client (most of our other clients can be served by our colocated facility), and I'm going to second this. Or with any other provider. They should always explain exactly which rule was broken. If the customer is legit + genuine, they will promptly fix the issue and won't be a further problem. Being vague makes it super troublesome to rely on any service that takes that tactic. (Like Google, for example) If they continue to re-offend, and find other ways to skirt the rules, that's when you move on to account termination.
The easiest way to get started is to file an issue in the issue tracker at https://github.com/WebAssembly/WASI/issues and we can start discussing it!
The DOJ has significantly more resources and investigative power.
You can stick this line in your .bash_profile, etc to get those notifications to stop popping up:

defaults write com.apple.coreservices.uiagent CSUIRecommendSafariNextNotificationDate -date 2050-01-01T00:00:00Z
That is not a micro USB socket shown in the picture
As an Android developer during the first G1 era, I feel that Google was really taking advantage of the well established Java developer base.

Having developers already understand Java, was a huge thing for Android when it first came out.

So when you say:

> Wendy’s doesn’t ever use “supersize” in their promotions

IANAL, So I’m not sure Google didn’t do the same...

I also think Oracle is also not happy with that.
The career officials at the FTC recommended antitrust action against Google back in 2012, but the political appointees shut them down.

>When the Federal Trade Commission neared a momentous decision on whether to charge Google with violating antitrust laws in January 2013, the White House was watching closely.

New emails uncovered by the Campaign for Accountability, a public interest watchdog organization, show that a White House advisor met with top Google lobbyist Johanna Shelton and top Google antitrust counsel Matthew Bye twice in the weeks before the FTC announcement.

And minutes prior to the final decision – in which FTC commissioners took the unusual step of overriding their staff’s recommendation to sue, and voted to settle the case instead – the White House official even sought Google’s talking points in the matter.

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/18/white-house-official-coz...
Who is to blame?

The customer who didnt research?

The physician who gets lunch twice a year from Accutane?

The government for stopping freedom?

Note: none of this is /s, I would like to discuss why this happens, and if there are any solutions.
Facebook doesn’t own all social media though.

YouTube, Pinterest, Snapchat, Linkedin, Reddit, Twitch are all major social networks and there are scores of smaller ones. In search it is basically just Google and Bing.
https://twitter.com/pfooti/status/527301101523963904?s=19

From 2014 though.
How do I read it? Do I have to subscribe?
Stop the bubbling

Stop the personalization engines
Pragmatically thinking I can't imagine what could be better age or place to be alive.

We have abundance of food and can pick what and when we eat. We can travel freely and its relatively cheap. We work less hours and the work is physically not demanding. We have time for self fulfillment and hobbies. Medicine is widely available at least in Europe. Technology and communication is widely available and cheap.

What could be better? As a westerner and tech worker I can't really even imagine what else could be better in everyday life. More money wouldn't change much or make my life better. I don't want to live 150 years old if it means just existing.
The WHATWG DOM spec was spun out of W3C DOM level 3. Neither document was ever associated with or aligned to any version of HTML, though the WHATWG did try something like that and backed off when all the browser vendors refused to give them the time of day. Now the WHATWG document is largely the document of record and W3Cs DOM level 4 is largely a snapshot of the WHATWG document.

None of this is either confusing or a mystery. It’s all out there in the open and the people who maintain these documents respond to email. I typically avoid talking about the DOM online because many developers aren’t aware of what it is and are less aware of its history and sometimes people get sensitive about it.
This is just speculation, but I read somewhere recently that alleged that Youtube wasn't the gift to the world it appears to be. While I love Youtube for the most part (Free, High Quality), it is strange that we haven't seen much competition. Maybe it's a loss leader for Google and nobody else can afford the expense, or maybe they're doing something shady to make sure nobody else can afford to compete.
At the time of buying, people were mocking FB for being delusional left and right.

After FB manages these acquisitions well, we are now like "FB is evil and anti-competitive".