skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Wow, pretty amazing. I test myself every year or two, and other than flipping from ENTP to INTP several years ago, it's been INTP ever since. I'm surprised just how many INTPs there are on here considering the supposedly low prevalence.

FWIW, my wife is ESFJ, the polar opposite. It actually works out rather well. It's worth seeing what your SO is too, I wonder if that's a pattern.
The second link shows a broken page for me. The first link works, except the titles/links for each of the pages are the same, which makes navigation difficult.
Hot Ticket in B-School: Bringing Life Values to Corporate Ethics
"But once we were in," adds EBK, "it was, like, fuck it."

That combined with the bong-hit photo pretty much makes this one of the best Wired articles I've read this year.
http://evernote.com - exactly what you are looking for. I have 20 invites if anyone wants to give it a spin.

EDIT: Please email terencepua gmail

I hate clutter :)
I am an ENTP. E/I was only a 2 point difference, so I usually say I am an E/INTP.

Another question, how many people actually were administered the actual Myers Briggs test vs a web survey or classroom activity? (I took the test via a career counselor 10 years ago).
Interesting ... I wonder how his career would have worked out if he had started in the VC business in the early 1980s, instead of the mid 1980s or later? Or, if he didn't have the software background?
Yahoo UI Design Stencils (for Visio, Omnigraffle)
Android Is Out For iPhone Blood
Hi, I have developed this tool which makes ECMAScript 4 (the upcoming next version of JavaScript) usable today. Or at least usable when the spec is finished.

I am pretty confident in the utility of the tool, but I would really like some advice from people who have tried to market this kind of developer tools. How easy is it to sell something like this commercially, when competition like GWT is free?

Also, if anyone have advice about marketing. I hear that blogging might be a good way of marketing towards developers, however time spent blogging would count from time spent developing the tool, so I wonder if it would be a sensible trade-off.
"The data excluded the two most-feared diseases, HIV/AIDS and syphilis."

Which means the infection rate is higher. Not exactly backing their counter-point.

"The focus on “teenagers” covers a broad age range, from those who are 14 .. to women of 18 and 19"

I wouldn't say that was broad, rather somewhat limited seeing as how 'tweens' are becoming sexually active now.

I get the point of the article about how they worded it (disease vs. infection) and the problems with sensationalism but their arguments aren't very convincing.
My wife is ESFJ, too.
What gives MediaDefender the right to DoS Revision3?
You can use Druapl for many things. If it is what you are familiar with and will allow you to build something fast and iterate quickly, go with it until you have need/find/learn something better.
Wow. 30 points for INTP, 13 for INTJ while I'm writing this.

The timing for this poll couldn't be better. Just yesterday I was wondering about three things:

- How much of an INTP Paul Graham shows to be through his writing and his attitudes in regards to the development of Hacker News (both the software and the community).

- How much of the "initial" community would be INTP. It seems to me that many people came here because of affinity.

- Given that INTX are the least common group in the population (less than 5%), and given the way that PG is not willing to change the community "profile", this site is bound to have few users. Not because of elitism, but just because there isn't that many INTXs around!
Thanks for giving feedback. I will have to think about a way to tag each link. I am not sure why the second link doesn't work for you. I can access it even from my mobile phone.
Another link-bait, trashy, speculative article 3 years too early trashing Microsoft and Windows 7.

I'd expect this from some random blogger but not Jupiter Research.

I'd rather them focus on trashing Vista than spreading this garbage.

Did I mention Windows 7 is 3 years away?
Backpack (backpackit.com).
emacs with planner + muse + gnus + remember + calendar + bbdb, etc.

You get the idea: I live in emacs.
...'tweens' are becoming sexually active now

Actually, what the article points out is that the rate of sexual activity is dramatically higher among women aged 18-19 than among those under 14. Since the study didn't take that into consideration, that's one of the problems.
I wish I was as disciplined in emacs as this. I use it for twittering (via twit.el), irc and editing everything else, but I haven't jumped into gnus, planner, and calendar yet. I really should just do it. It'd make my life so much better.
I've seen these run through various hacker communities in the past and INTJ is definitely the classical hacker, with INTP not too far behind.

When testing in high school I tended to test INTP, but I've drifted towards ENTP and now tend to test as a pretty strong extrovert.
i'm surprised there are so few extroverts here..

INTJ represent
Very nice tool tip scripts. Now need to find an excuse to use them...
I went back and took the test again. For each question where I'd hesitated to choose between two options I took the option which I had not chosen the first time. What surprised me was that the type did not change, only the percentages.

The description of my personality type (INTJ) was uncanny.
Open API: Architectural Choices and Considerations
Return of the Command Line
maybe I'm blind but I don't see anything in this article about a "data gold mine"

There is data on ad performance, which was interesting but this article is seriously lacking content on the topic.

And while they mentioned the ousting of original YT employees there isn't much data there either.
Three things:

- This isn't hacker news.

- Please read the guidelines and don't editorialize in titles.

- If this sort of thing interests you, read Freakonomics.
I think everyone is being a bit too hard on Michael Arrington. Most of the time his articles are well written and insightful. To take just one piece he wrote and discount him and TC completely just because of the misuse of quotation marks is a bit over the top.
LOL! I suppose I was naively idealistic about describing naive idealism!

Your last sentence really sums it up for me. THE POWER of what Umair is saying is: "I have done the research, and it is razor-sharp, economically-grounded strategy to be idealistic/irreverent/naive/etc."
Pretty much in the same shoes as you. 2007 grad. 1 year in a big web company and looking for a change, so good timing on the post :)
If you use a Mac you might find one or more of these softwares helpful for storing certain types of things:

Things to do (Things): http://www.culturedcode.com/things/

Things to memorize (Mental Case): http://www.maccoremac.com/

Wiki style notes (VoodooPad): http://flyingmeat.com/voodoopad/

Tag style notes (Notae): http://www.codepoetry.net/products/notae

Journal/Blog style notes (Journler): http://journler.com/

Search style notes (Notational Velocity): http://notational.net/

Visual style notes (Curio): http://www.zengobi.com/products/curio/

Notebook style notes (NoteBook): http://www.circusponies.com/

Analyze your notes (Tinderbox): http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/

Personally, I'm going to try Evernote soon. It has synchronized web access, unlike any of the above. http://evernote.com/

You can also use Jott to create auto-transcribed voice notes from your phone: http://jott.com/
NTs dominate technical fields and most engineers are INTPs, so these results are consistent with what I've seen before. I've learned that your position on the Introversion-Extraversion axis depends on your situation. I'm a lot more outgoing when I'm at work if I can get a few hours in the evening alone to recharge mentally.

Oh, yeah. INTJ.
I got to 25 before I bailed .. what does that say about me?

72 questions you got to be kidding me.
What isn't conversational terrorism?
Talk about jumping to conclusions. All they know is that there seems to be a correlation between playing golf and lower death rates. Could it be that those people have a lot of free time and are already healthier than those who don't/can't?

Maybe golf is a sport that attracts older people who are not suffering from debilitating diseases that make them stay at home, especially in Sweden.
I pulled that on several CS majors back in my college days. Works every time.
I don't know that my title was editorializing. The data presented in the study is obviously flawed, and the way it was reported was even worse - largely caused by innumeracy (at best).

I'll delete it though, because on second though, I agree that this isn't hacker news.
Come one, no one sees the humor in this?

Geez tough crowd.
I am pretty much the exact opposite. I am a designer, but not really a programmer. I can program, but it is not pretty and has to be pretty basic. I am pretty much forced to rely on ExpressionEngine to get things working.

However, I don't care. I focus on what I am good at in order to get even better. Don't try to diversify. Specialize. There is more money in it.
Answer the questions as quickly as you can. Your first impulsive response will be the most accurate.
Great point. Having been an intern at Wall Street firm in technology, sometimes I got the feeling that that the revenue generating branches are viewed as the champions of the firm, while the technologists are essentially (well-paid) stilts that hold up the business.
I wonder how much of an overlap there is between the INTPs and INTJs. For example, I always score INTP on these tests, and yet the INTJ profile describes me far, far better.
You don't have to "learn an industry", you only have to be made aware of a problem in enough detail for you to solve it.

That can be done by learning an industry, but that's the expensive way. Cheaper is to have broad first-hand experience, or a large network of people who will tell you about problems that need to be solved in their industry.
Google Sites is a near-replacement for Backpack once you integrate a to-do list app from say Remember the Milk. The "Announcement" page type = Page in Backpack. If you need more formatting for a page, you use a "Web Page" style. Sites is just a little slower (less Ajax) and less pretty. As a 2-year paying Backpack customer, I think I can make a complete switch.
I think the point of the article is "...and it's working."

There was a lot of skepticism at the time of acquabout whether youtube would ever provide enough revenue to justify it's purchase price. It appears now that the purchase was justified, and that the strengths of youtube and Google have complemented each other well.
People are voting this up? wtf?
French paper declares Verizon's $24 billion FiOS project dead. Whoops.
If they are scanning emails, why wouldn't they scan docs? I think they would only consider it evil to publish the results of their analysis, internal use is probably fine. With Zenter and Writely they also learn about business relations between people.
Why is it hard to believe? You are searching billions of web pages. A typical index containing millions of web pages takes up gigabytes of space and fits in RAM on a commodity server. In order to run one search really fast over billions of pages, you need an instance of a distributed index that is three orders of magnitude larger than what fits into one machine.
Self-Marketing for Software Developers
Yes, you can. It may be easier if you do work in it, of course, but even that doesn't always help, because you may be mistaking your particular problem with a more general need.

The trick (if you can call it that) is to speak to a number of people in different roles in the chosen industry, and try to elicit different problems that need solving. Then, run the results by the others, and listen carefully. Read the trade journals, and see what solutions are out there, and you'll see what the gaps are.
A story to share: My wife worked for a local Land Rover dealership for a short time a couple years back. I visited one day and saw the computer system they used and was shocked at how ancient and horrible the interface and hardware were. For a dealership selling 80K Range Rovers I thought it was downright crazy that they were using software that looked like it was from the 80's.

I realized however after talking to her boss that I couldn't just waltz in there and tell them I'd solve all their problems with my new shiny software app. I needed a connection, several steps up the corporate ladder to have any chance of landing that gig. Which in turn would require years of working within the corporation or at least experience in a related field to give me credibility (and designing/building web 2.0 apps doesn't count)

Something so simple to me was in fact tied up by a very traditional model where "who you know" is more important than what you know or what you can deliver.

Some uber geek walking in to your industrial fishing plant and offering to re design your software (for a fee of course) is not going to be welcomed with open arms. Pre-existing relationships are very important and still play a major role in where money gets spent (software industry or not).
I use windows freeware application called Keynote (http://www.tranglos.com/free/keynote.html). It is basically a tabbed notepad, where each tab is either a rich text file, or a tree with nodes.
I know what you mean. Reading INTP personality profiles online was a life changing experience for me. Suddenly everything made so much more sense.
There is always a "top" when trading dollars for hours.

I think this is the key thing. As much as I dislike Steve Pavlina, he understands this. See #1 here: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-reasons-you-shou...
Best note keeping tool I've come across yet.
I agree with your take on it, but generally I find it better just to reproduce titles as they occur rather than to interpret them, even if in fairly obvious ways.
Storms on the horizon
I was using IE 7. Now the pages render, but with errors:

Line 121
Char 5:
Error:"expected identifier, string or number"

The same error shows for all of thestandard.com URLs on that page, apparently.
I've taken probably 30 of these tests over the years, from all sorts of different places; I've always come out as an INTJ.
I'll throw my name in that hat too.
(22, 38, 75, 11)

Don't hold it against me :)

Most of my friends are INTJ/INTP, we sent this around in some emails a few months ago.
INTP poster boy here.
Q: Can you shove a million spam pages down Google's throat in May 2008? A: Yes
No, unless you can find some information independently (via research or people). That info is hard earned and you will be a lot less convicted (and it will be harder to convince people that you're right) if you have no direct experience.

If I was a hacker, I'd be looking for smart/irreverent/idealistic people in industries with big problems to partner with. That sounds a lot more fun.

See Fred Wilson's post from today.

I think this very point is why there are soooooooo many "productivity apps" and "music reccomendation" apps. All software people listen to music and want to be more productive.

What about fashion? What about auto mechanics? What about schools in India? What about transportation in rural China?

I strongly recommend Umair Haque's article on "Hacking the Industrial Economy":

http://discussionleader.hbsp.com/haque/2008/05/last_week_i_a...

Great question!!!
I'm surprised as well. Usually when I see things downmodded this severely I can at least see why.
Precisely. I'm an Introvert but I can do things like public speaking, having a job interview or giving a lecture reasonably well. Also, I have no trouble to get into a circle of strangers and easily initiate a conversation - as long, of course, it is some kind of interaction where I think it is meaningful. But after some time interacting with people, I just want to go home, get back to the computer, a book, swim for an hour by myself, etc.

On the other hand, I have a friend who is an Extrovert, but at the same time he is considerably shy. He craves interaction and is really cool with people that he knows, but it seems that he blocks whenever there is someone new in the room, or in a situation where people might judge him.
Wow another designer on HN ... and I thought I was the only one.
No matter where you're at, you need to find a way to decouple the "what" from the "how" in the mind of your boss/user/customer.

As soon as they start telling me what tool/framework/algorithm to use, I put on the brakes. "You decide the what, I decide the how. That's how it works around here." If they don't agree, work somewhere else.

This doesn't fix everything, but goes a long way toward quality and job satisfaction.
makes me feel a little weird being and INTJ Designer with marginal to crappy hacking ability. Yeay for feeling out of place.
I have to agree with this point. No, you do not have to be part of an industry to do work in it. It will certainly make the proposition very difficult however.

One of my YC ideas was a product aimed at the HR industry. I personally have no affiliations with it but my co founder was a part of it. While my ideas were very interesting from a freshness perspective, I was often was off from what our client base wanted the most.

The benefits of being part of the industry is having connections, knowing where to look, and what to look for. If you are not part of it, this can be time consuming and costly. It's extremely beneficial to have a co founder, or just an adviser with industry experience. Like Michael's comment, their leads give you many heads to run ideas by, and the resources necessary to understand your clients.
If only there were a mechanism to sense our emotions... and sync them.
Try a descendant in q/kdb+ at kx.com. No special symbol set required. For reference, "Q for Mortals" is a good read, and Joel at wagerlabs.com blogs about q/kdb+ occasionally.

q/kdb+ could turn into something really useful, and has some nice tricks, like very easy to use remoting capabilities, and a way to send lambdas to another machine anywhere and have that machine run the code. Unfortunately q/kdb+ are still a bit too domain specific to the finance world where the product apparently has a strong commercial following, so some of the stuff, like a robust, secure web server to compliment the powerful remoting capabilities is currently not available. Additionally, the language should have separate variable creation and setter operators, because it would be pretty easy to inadvertently start working with a new var after a mistype when an original var was intended.

If this stuff was cleaned up for consumption by a larger market, I think it would be pretty hot.
Ask HN: How to deal with patents?
I got an idea for a product. Before I proceeded with any prototype, I found out that someone has already patented the idea. I don't know if the individual who patented it has started working on the idea. If I want to still pursue my idea, how should I proceed? Has anyone encountered this problem?
Um. Barf. Also, that randomized buzzword-y bold text makes my blood boil. Poor, precious little developer. He's probably making his colleagues crazy.
If my ideas are unrelated to projects I'm currently working on, then I save them as .txt documents in one of two folders: "ideas" or "writing." Writing is just a folder of things I want to blog about in the future, whereas ideas are more business idea type stuff. If the idea is related to a current project then it goes in my mindmap for that project. All of my mindmapping is done using FreeMind, and I have a mindmap for every major project: businesses, extended essays/books, classes, etc.
I think you are asking a very important question for any entrepreneur which is "how do I go about finding a substantial business opportunity upon which I could build a viable enterprise?"

Recently I wrote about "entre-sumer" which I believe is an important cornerstone for bootstrapping startups. Basically I am arguing that we need to refine the "Build Something People Want" concept further by narrowing it to "Build Something I want".

That is, to maximize our chance for success, we need to be the "entre"preneur who creates the solution and at the same time, be the con"sumer" who has a burning need for such solution.

So in that sense, the Founders of Google, YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, etc., were doing just that. They were the representatives of their generation and they were the "alpha" dogs. By eating their own dog food, their success is assured since by definition there are plenty of "beta" dogs who would follow.

But rather than saying that these are "software-related" opportunities, I would say that these are E2C opportunities, building an "E"nterprise to sell to "C"onsumers.

My own opinion is that while these are interesting and highly visible opportunities, they have the fundamental problem that more often than not, you will be competing with "free". It is difficult if not impossible to get consumers to pay, however much they might live to depend on your products and services. So typically the viable business model is advertising, i.e., monetizing eyeballs.

The other side of the coin, and I believe this is the gut of your question, is E2E, building an "E"nterprise to sell to other "E"nterprises.

Then the answer to your question is YES. Someone in your team would need to come from that industry who can be the "surrogate" customer.

My experience with selling to enterprises is that customers are actually not the place you start when you build a company from scratch. They know how to criticize an imperfect product but they have no idea what to do with a perfect PowerPoint. You need to have someone inside your team who has the insights to guide your vision. If that person is you, it is the best.

Hope this helps.
Thanks for the great information. One quick question... when you say you're "back to Flash" for your next project, are you talking about moving back to Flash (as opposed to Flex) as your dev tool/programming paradigm or did you stray from the Flash engine entirely?
Excellent point, as a designer I work hand-in-hand with a talented programmer for all my projects. He in turn sends UI work to me because he understand his limitations.
The answer to this is that it depends what their problem is. There is a lot of horizontal stuff that is applicable to any industry. You could get a lot of experience building (say) workflow software in one industry and reuse that knowledge in any industry. This is the classic systems analysis approach.

But if that industry uses software to solve problems directly, then you will need domain knowledge. You could be the best C programmer in the world, but without the domain knowledge all you could offer (say) a biotech company would be help in optimizing their code or writing generic functions such as the user interface or the data access. How could you write code to simulate protein folding without knowing it yourself?
Let other people who can design inspire you. Then copy the inspiration into photoshop and move it around till it looks nice.
These are interesting results. I'm an ENTP - which seems to me to be an extroverted version of INTP. If you lump those two together - it seems that the overwhelming people here are very, very similar.
Terence, I'd love an invite. My email is danhaubert [symbol thing] g mail [dotter] com

Thanks!
Those apps that won the Dev Challenge are sweet!!!

Very exciting stuff

I haven't looked into the iPhone apps much, but this is going to get VERY interesting, that's for sure.
I hear ya. I don't drink either.
Sometimes the easiest part of success is just showing up.
Sounds like PR bull, sorry. The best "recruiting" posts on HR/YC are the ones that have wit, humor, and most of all, go directly to the points.

You do lay out you're qualified, though.
I scored 100 for introverted. Do I get a reward party?
The ideal situation in many ways is to partner with somebody from the industry. As you say, this can be a great source of domain knowledge, and contacts. A domain expert with business skills makes a great co-founder; alternately, a trio of techie, domain expert, and business manager.