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I think this discussion is about 2 or 3 decades out of date.

Currently the issue isn't whether you are black, white, hispanic, or whatever. It's whether you are male or female. Women have taken over in the high schools and colleges. University enrollment is almost 2/3rds female nationwide and the gap is growing.....

Our problem right now isn't race, it's gender. Boys are dropping out in droves and at very early ages.

If you go into any government office right now you will see most of the employees will be women. I routinely go into offices now where there will be 20 or 30 women working and zero men. The men serve as janitors and gardeners. It's all they are qualified for.

Problem is getting worse and public school administrators are totally blind to the issue.
Thanks guys. I ended up doing a 'string replace' when displaying the msg content.
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We live in Europe, and no, handouts not really the answer we're looking for. We're aiming at a flexible schedule for both of us in order to both have time with our daughter. The safety net stuff is nice in some ways, but it's not really what we're after.
Aha...I knew I'd read this before! It's linked in the article from this post:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=143148

which spawned a large comment thread that's probably worth referencing here.
Then say so. Have an online cancellation option that says "We find that many of our customers who are canceling stay with us, if we get a chance to try to fix it. If you're canceling because of a problem with the service, check here to have someone contact you to attempt to resolve it. What time would you like us to call?"
I can't imagine how one would write something like Slime without really digging into Vim's internals (written in C).

I challenge you to point me to any Vim plug-in (for any language) that provides a REPL like command-line, objection inspection, debugging, etc. without using C to directly mess with Vim's innards.
To copy the comment from your post, a large reason that these 'nerds' are unpopular are they way they defer to authority and suck up to the teacher. Even till now, I really dislike those people. Those nerds are conformist and learn exactly what they are told to learn.

The cool kids are the ones that do things their own way. By virtue of that, they get to lead. If I were in a 2 seater plane that crashes on an island that has a dinosaur on it, I'd prefer to have a non-confirmist rebel type with me instead of a shake-in-my-boots where-is-my-teacher type!

That's nerd versus cool. Conformist vs Rebel.
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From the article - you can't say hackers figure out both "what" and "how" in most cases. Usually there is a designer and/or usability expert who figures out what.
I've always been a bit of a student of economics (spent 3 years of studying it in school plus it's a hobby).

And this paper has got to be the most concise explanation of elementary economics I've ever seen. It covers most of the material from the first two semesters of macroeconomics and first two of microeconomics - but with far more clarity and insight.
I enrolled in a design class once. I figured graphic design would be a good place to start with as far as artistic fundamentals. Not knowing what I was getting into, I took Design I at ArtCenter at Night, because, of course, I wanted the best fundamentals.

Instead I learned that gouache is really, really hard to use to make flat, even-colored swatches which satisfy the professional painter who you have for a teacher, particularly if you've not painted beyond watercolors in elementary school.

It was fun, but suffice it to say that I am still very much a hacker; a painter, not so much. In any case, as a result of that experience, I gained a new level of empathic understanding for non-hackers dealing with technology. It was very much like an Excel macro programmer being dropped into a course on compilers at Stanford.
I think you are far too quick to dismiss the guy behind one of the world's most popular operating systems. My point with the post in this thread was to simply say that there are other kinds of noble ambitions and goals for hackers besides doing a startup. Consider comparative advantage: Linus might make a good startup, but if his comparative advantage is in doing Linux, most likely he and the world are better off for him to keep doing Linux.
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hackers are makers, and it often spills over into other kinds of production

Yes, definitely. I think hackers may be more like architects than painters, for example. The reason I wrote about the connection between hacking and painting is that I understand painting fairly well. I haven't studied architecture.

The core of this Dabblers & Blowhards thing is a strawman argument. He claims I say the connection between hacking and painting is much stronger than I do, then "proves" it isn't. When in fact all I say is:

of all the different types of people I've known,
hackers and painters are among the most alike.

(http://paulgraham.com/hp.html)
Not just makers but 'conceivers'. To take an idea and express it in some form is artistic expression. And that perhaps is the similarity. Also, I think emotion(passion) has a part to play because the similarity exists at an emotional level not at 'process' level.
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Exercise was the only thing that kept me from getting really depressed during the middle part of grad school. There's just something magical about beating yourself silly for an hour or two that helps to clear the mind....

I've had therapists/counselors tell me that exercise programs are one of the first interventions they try for depressed patients.
A big thumbs up for Github. I've got OSS and closed source projects in GH and I absolutely love it. Pull requests are the new patch ticket.
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I hate to upmod something so derisive, but when you have truth on your side...
That was great. Thanks.

I do, however, take issue with his notion of teaching math for purely aesthetic reasons. That definitely should be part of the curriculum, but I personally feel that only a few students are really attuned to that sort of thing. Others will enjoy the mechanics of calculation, and others will love reasoning and problem-solving. Some won't like any of this, but not everyone is cut out for a life where math is a big part.
Most likely whoever wrote it cut their teeth on MySQL 4.0 or earlier which didn't have subselects.

They don't do this so much now, but back in the day (mid-late 90s) MySQL documentation was notorious for glossing over why they didn't have features. Foreign keys were "too slow". Transactions were "too slow", etc. If you need to rollback, store the previous values in memory in your own code, they told everyone (then quietly added the feature and changed the docs).
I agree, of course. But before the twitter bashing starts, I wanna say, I don't think that they foresaw messaging being the primary use-case. After all, you already have IM and SMS and a gillion other messaging systems. Twitter was conceived as a blogging platform, but smaller. Messaging was how you would post to twitter, not what you would do with twitter.

Of course, that was wrong. (How annoying are the twitter users who actually "answer the question: What are you doing?") But that kind of insight only comes out once your product is exposed to real humans. It's obvious, but only in hindsight.

As it turns out, when you make LiveJournal really small, you get Jabber.
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Consider how much of this stuff has been pushed into people by white-coated authorities over the last 20 years and the onslaughts of expert derision against questioning it. Meanwhile it turns out that the studies on which the drug's reputation was based were cherry-picked out of a much larger set, the negative ones having been suppressed and only recovered after years of freedom-of-information litigation.

Drugs are bad! Don't take drugs! The war on drugs! I mean, drugs are good! Take the drugs we tell you to! But not those ones we gave you before!
The thing is almost everyone is using their computer to augment their intellect as you put it. Even if they don't realize it.

Everyone has used a spell-checker or Excel functions at least once.
Well, in that case, the title of the book "Hackers and Painters", overstates the connection.

As a programmer who has had some success and money (and not a painter, not a musician, in fact, not well-endowed in any of the arts, but with a fairly decent math background), I have to say that I found the connection tenuous too.
Not to say I don't agree with PG on most things - I actually do.

If I were to write a book I would say "Hackers & Thinkers" because that's what I do with my time - think about things.
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1) The mind is an information processing device.

2) Programming enables me to modify information flows.

3) Therefore, I augment my intellect via hacking.

P.S. If the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis for programming languages is true, then my "actual" intellect is also changing.
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I think it has to be more obvious how to apply maths to everyday life. Not sure if it is very easy to do, though.

One problem that comes to mind is understanding mobile telephony costs. I am amazed how many people really seem to believe that their phone only cost 1€...

Finances (interest rates, economics) would be another area, which could at the same time help prepare people for life after school.

What about games? I just bought "The Theory Of Poker", perhaps stuff like that could arouse more interest about maths in kids? They could even play games at school, imagine that.

Thinking about it, maybe it would be worthwhile to start a web site (wiki) about applied maths problems. Applied as in REALLY applied, everyday problems everybody could relate to.

I have a server and would set it up, could anybody recommend a good wiki package (debian)?
No, vice versa. Like almost everyone else.
I don't yet think that most of
us are using information technologies to their full potential.

That being said, I can clearly mark the differences between how I was taught to perform thought functions growing up and how I do them now. The calculator on this iPhone and the scientific ones I access via hotkeys on my mac and of spring to mind. It is second nature to whir my hands across a keyboard to get a precise answer to a numeric problem than to try to calculate in my mind a best guestimate.

When I read something I want to access later, it goes into a bookmarking service. Or, I know easily the keywords to google it to find it later.

The most remarkable thing has been having my iPhone. Though its a cliché by now, having the internet in my pocket has been remarkable. I have near instant access to all of the world's information anywhere I am.

I definitely fall on the side of wannabe singulitarian, but even disregarding that, I see the increasingly powerful portable computation we carry with us as a positive sign we are increasingly incorporating computation into our sense of self and consciousness.
The simplicity of the end result is why all programmers program.

Should my computer read my brain waves and makes decisions equal to the decision i make in my head. Yes, the user interfaces of the future will be this.

Have i taken the time to develop and implement the fundamentals. Of course not...the demand hasn't reached the point where it would be worth the overall effort involved.

Visionary leadership would be stepping too far in front of the crowd and results in a much higher risk.
This is hacker news, not script-kiddie news. Sorry.
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I agree with manny
So depression is the sensation of my brain atrophying.

This comment makes it sound like you read that and just accepted it as true. Surely that's not the case?

When orthodoxy shifts it doesn't mean that the new orthodoxy is right. These things seem to come in 20-30 year cycles (remember the one about how saturated fat caused heart disease? or how breast-feeding was really bad... I mean, really really good?). It occurred to me that maybe one reason for these cycles is the rise of new generations of researchers (it fits the cycle length). The best way to make your mark is by discrediting the theories of the earlier generation. (I'm not suggesting all of science works this way.) This sort of churn is perhaps an indication that skepticism is appropriate. Otherwise you end up with that amusing illusion of how stupid people always were 20-30 years ago.
The controversy on boingboing existed because they refused to say why they removed the link. I don't think the secret is that evil -- I strongly suspect it was done to placate advertisers in general. Advertisers don't like links to porn. Boingboing makes an enormous amount of money so they want to keep advertiseres happy. They should have just said so instead of keeping it a secret.

At least I'm hoping it was that reason and not because of a personal feud Xeni had. I've thought about installing a no-Xeni greasemonkey script but she does post some good things...
Well to answer my own question (close enough anyway) the top 10 submitters of the top 500 submissions this week account for 15.2% of articles, for this month its 15.8%
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In terms you may understand, the issue everyone is discussing is why the number of black, or latina females, is so low relative their population percentages in the larger society. In particular, the percentage of latinas in the US college student population is far out of line when considering their population percentage in the larger society. Even more so when one considers that 2/3rds of university enrollment is female. That means that, all other things being equal, US university enrollment should be 10% latina, since hispanics constitute 15% of our population. The thing is . . . latina University enrollment is not 10% of overall University enrollment. Meaning, for some reason, white women are making it to the University level at a far greater rate. Why is this?

It is a legitimate question to ask, and unfortunately it demands an examination of those obvious differences like ". . . whether you are black, white, hispanic, or whatever . . ."

I agree with you, male-female disparities should be discussed as well. Perhaps you could start another topic?
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Actually I think SomethingAwful's emoticons are awesome, and that place is full of geeks.
LGPL, we went with it for our code and have been doing okay by it. The only trick is that we use a number of other OSS packages as well and we have to do an audit every once a quarter to make sure the licenses are all in line with ours.
You must be a fan of the radio or TV series? It was 'Arkleseizure' in the books. I suppose it does sound just like 'Occal', with the Brit accent.

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What I (personally) find very interesting in American schools is the "unpopular"=="picked-on" relation.

I understand pg's argument that you have to work at being popular. In my (Indian) school, I was a typical nerd - I was poor, often wore uniforms from my previous years, I loved to read, and couldn't bother to spend the time socializing. There were a few others like me and a few widely popular, athletic, rich kids.

But we never got picked on for "being nerds"! Never! If anything, we got respect for being good at our work. It didn't make us popular but we had good friends (hell I had my share of girls in high school) and overall an enjoyable experience.

Sure there were cases of bullying, but they were one-off. It was not nerd==target and even the bullying was handled pretty soon, either by us (as a group) or the teachers.

I really would like to know where this animosity towards nerds comes from. I think that's the interesting (and painful) part of American culture that needs probing. It's definitely not universal. Any ideas?
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We have something on SF which we don't update often because of all the reasons you've read in other posts. The up-to-date code snapshot is hosted in-house on Subversion. Issues are tracked in-house with Mantis, user/developer mailing lists are run in-house with Pipermail, the code is built on the server with the help of Maven (since it's all Java, YMMV), and wikis hosted in-house with the help of Dokuwiki.

Why all the in-house stuff? Control, for one. We also ask for registration information before giving access to the source code. This comes around to lead generation when it's time to sell services (which is all the time).

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I went to a fairly atypical school district in Silicon Valley where you didn't have bullies beating kids up, so I probably can't understand what everyone else is talking about. In my experience, however, you only got shunned and had severe unpopularity if you were lacking in fairly basic social skills--like, say, not throwing a tantrum after turning six. To me, it seemed like being average and sort of blending in by not doing anything too socially awkward was enough to avoid getting picked on. I don't think basic social skills are that hard to pick up for most people, and you don't need to sacrifice being smart to have the basics of not being awkward. Does anyone have any comments?
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I dunno, is that really analogous? The werewolf question would barely alter your behavior even if you did believe in them.

If you're saying that you do not act as if a God existed, I call that atheism. To me belief isn't a matter of profession, it's a matter of altered behavior. By this standard a lot of so-called believers actually aren't, so this is perhaps controversial, but I think this clarifies things.
I think hackers may be more like architects than painters, for example.

I've always felt that the character of Howard Roark captures the quintessential hacker quite well. Not being an architect, I can't comment on how well he represents architects, or how common that overlap might be :)

At least as I interpreted it, your essay doesn't argue for the connection between the activities of hacking and painting as much as between the people who do these things. Devotion to a craft that brings artistic satisfaction attracts a certain sort of person.
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I don't think he did say that -- rather that in the best case, they do both.
I draw a little bit, and I couldn't see anything wrong with pg stating the following:

"Most painters start with a blurry sketch and gradually refine it."

Unless the author or some other great painter manages to get it perfectly right from the very first stroke? I only draw, I don't paint, but I can definitely see similarities between going through iterations and drafts in programming and art.
Are you younger? I graduated high school in 2004 and it was a lot better than suburban high school in the past. This was at a reasonably wealthy, mostly white suburban high school near Pittsburgh (two turnpike exits from Paul Graham's high school, which was Pittsburgh's first uber-developed suburb, Monroeville).

At my high school, the people who had in middle school been popular, had mostly gotten into hard drugs and been shunned by everyone else, though these people never realized they weren't popular anymore. The football players that weren't into hard drugs were all nice enough. The cheerleaders were mostly ugly. No one was really picked on, though there were three or for kids without physical or mental disabilities that sat with the kids with physical and mental disabilities at lunch.

I was never popular but my senior year I became good friends with the class president, who played drums in the marching band with me. He was the most popular person in my high school and he was a rare geek with a great deal of social intelligence.
>here just aren't very many hackers who are also painters.

I'd raise the hand for, as you say, "for some definition of" hacker, painter, writer and musician. And for any of slacker :-) I only program now, though.

Edit: oops! half the commentary disappeared before. I was going to say that painting (and composing music and writing) is really alike to programming, IMHO at least. I haven't read Paul Graham's book so I don't know if it has the same things that I feel alike. But the fact that there is a visible result and that result must "work" and the means are mostly a thought product, it's all the same. And there are also other similarities of the joy that I feel when doing any of these things that I couldn't express easily.

You would think that what means that the result "works" is different, that it's easier to have objetive measure of a working program than a "working painting". In fact it's not very clear in most companies. If the sales dept. can fool one customer to buy some crap (or undone) software for a fortune, that'd be "working". Not better than "art market".
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I'd stop in the "if you're investing $500+ in a chair" part. Why? Where does it come from?

That said, I'm very surprised to know that my chair is indeed one of these Miller's Mirra. You don't see this kind of luxury over here very often. At home I have a €60 that's as comfortable as this one.