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> > Past the third generation, minorities stop being minorities. They become culturally indistinguishable from the overall society

> Where are you from? This has not been the case with Muslims in Europe at large.

Premature. The third generation is generally less than ten years old at this point.
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Atomkeep is here to solve the problem of information redundancy. Atomkeep will keep your accounts in sync on all social networks, job boards and other sites.

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I used to leave my network wide open. Then, a couple of months back, I found my download speeds plummeting.

I flipped on WPA and suddenly things were brisk again.
> if we keep making promises we can't keep, then those social contracts become null and void.

Well, sure, I guess. Or, you know, we could just pay people 80% of what they expected and call it even. That number is actually about right for a minimum payout if you look at the demographics, after that the baby boom will be out of the system and we'll be back at a steady state.

Is that really a crisis? It's certainly not a "null and void" social security policy. There seems to be an argument coming from some segments of society (interestingly, identical with the ones that want to eliminate the social security entitlement) that it we can't pay every penny of the social security obligations that ZOMGWTF the system will collapse. It's just not true. We'll manage. "Null and void" indeed.
i want to create my own ,shezhaag,socail network company
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So if I owe you a hundred bucks and give you 80, our contract was valid, right? You got two choices: either I kept my promise or I didn't. Now we can argue that I "tried" to do the right thing, but by any account you would be quite reasonable in calling me a liar.

It might not mean a lot to you or me, but to a lot of people 80% of a promise is no promise at all -- especially folks on fixed incomes who are unable to work for themselves.

But once again, we're not talking the merits of the points made, just some possible hyperbole in my response.
The SAT was one of the highlights of highschool...damn, I miss that test. So fun. Good times.
Because if you tried it today you would be arrested for terrorism.
I don't get it. I can't see any way to make "eat" anything other than a verb, and as such I can't see any way to parse it.
This isn't actually a half bad idea.

Letting interested developers play with a subset of their index and then giving access to the full index for promising applications could potentially help them innovate against Google.
> They become culturally indistinguishable from the overall society

False. I rode a bike around Brussels, Belgium. To see the famous Comic book/Tin Tin murals. I got lost. It was scary to venture into the Muslim/Asian ghettos (ghetto defined here as a location in a city where a minority group lives because of social, economic, or legal pressures). I definitely felt like an outsider (and cursed not having a GPS). The opposite of a touristy-area.
For sure, but did you start learning to program by using unit tests? "Use unit tests" is great advice for a developer shipping commercial software, and bad advice for a 13 year old who wants to learn to code.
Purified virus,
the proof that it can be transmitted between human and lead to AIDS alone
The picture at the bottom of the story makes it worth a look all on its own, perfectly capturing the truth behind why many of us hack/build/design/create...for that post-release thrill of having a woman gaze curiously and perhaps even admiringly at what we've just made. The guy's face says it all. I know I've been there many a time.
I'm waiting for this one to show up here..."Studies find having startups makes people less happy."

;)
I've been looking for this type of service for a very, very long time. I went changing at least 20 profiles with new information and pictures, and that's simply annoying.

Immediate notes

- I love the interface and design. Register and login are prominent, things are explained well, everything is clean.

- I love that I can merge my profile info from other networks to build my AtomKeep Profile. It makes it REALLY easy to use the service at the start.

- Freaking amazing how much information (and images) it imports into the system.

- Obviously a big challenge of AtomKeep is adding new profiles. It has some similar veins to FriendFeed. You've hit the most important services, though. Are Google Profiles, StumbleUpon, Digg, Last.fm or YouTube possibilities?

I am rarely impressed with new services, but a tip of my hat to you, I am impressed with what I have seen so far. After I finish moving to my new apartment, I am going to be sure to write a post about this service. I'll update this comment later with future impressions about the service.
I find nytimes usually isn't worth the skim. The subjects are interesting enough, but the articles are neither informative nor insightful.

Not to be offtopic: I also don't consider it a crisis. Population aging, yes, that's a problem, but between current birth rate and imigration that's not a problem.
As for all the issues imigration brings: talk about them directly, and the solutions will be much more apparent then blaming everything on birthrate.
I couldn't agree with you more sadiq. Yahoo has an opportunity to disrupt the vertical search space by opening up. New interesting apps could be better integrated with Yahoo's search platform. I think it would definitely create a dent in Google's search market share. Facebook, AWS, Android are testimony to this. Opening up would definitely not hurt Yahoo, and would very likely help it earn trust from developers and be part of the ecosystem.
Reminder: we are talking here about Europe not the overall world population. Moreover whatever some moderate Muslims say, Islam is fundamentally intolerant of other religions and atheistic values. In case you doubt it take a look at Islamic societies across the globe.

The much enhanced birthrate of Muslims in Europe does therefore present us with a serious question as to how Europe will change as a result of this once Muslims are democratically able to alter national goals and cultural norms. This is nothing to do with racism or bigotry.
Also curious: what role do you see for Facebook in the mortgage market? It not really the most lucrative area right now...
I would add: find like-minded people (among your peers, and older 'mentors').
Going further with this, it also subtly screws up the kid when the kid feels he is responsible for his parents' happiness.

This study shouldn't be that surprising. It is adequately explained by Fruedian/Jungnian psychological theories.
Sadly, in some cases it is

function generation(input) { output = input - 1; generation(output); }

... particularly in cases of dysfunctional families.
Raising a child is a lot more than "spwaning offspring." You're obviously not a parent and have no appreciation for what your parents have done for you.

In the meantime keep playing halo and wanking to online porn.
1)
Will "Facebook Connect" kill this? Though we don't exactly know what FB connect is, I always assumed it allowed other sites to grab profile data from FB. Think of it like a virtual "home", allowing you to travel to other sites but you always have to go back to your home - unless you move your profile somewhere else.

2)
The major social networks are fighting over who will store your personal profile information because it is the most valued data they have. Their authentication schemes (though in their infancy) usually only allow temporary access to profile data whereas you are copying it. Does this break the terms of service on Facebook, MySpace etc..?
The design of the front page is clean. I didn't get further, the site's service/features are not explained very well. The 'sync' feature means I can change my street address and you'll update all my accounts? Great, but that happens once every 5 years. So my comment is that you need to clearly explain what the point is. Screenshots maybe? Some sites use an embedded Flash demo.
Hugely informative article.

A sarcastic thought just popped into my head. To make a snide remark: at least we Europeans don't do "Procreation for recreation."
What does "keep accounts in sync" mean? (Give an example of the "pain" we face doing such and add this to your homepage. Remember, it needs to "click" in 3 seconds.)
I don't hear of too many startups having to rely on Diabolo 3 coming out to make or break them.

Read the other comments.

It looks like Diablo 3 will probably cause a lot of start-ups to fail!
Fish [that] fish eat [habitually] eat [food].
Thank you very much for your feedback. However, our original idea is pretty much different from Friendfeed does. We are more about saving time and doing sometime valuable.

What do you mean saying Google Profiles? Are you talking about the ones from Google Groups? These are planned. I can make them higher priority, if you wish ;) Digg and YouTube are also planned. No StumbleUpon and Last.fm in plans, however the demand will set the direction for that.

Thanks again!
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Article is old....
I'm a Muslim. How many people here are going to start suddenly hating me because I'm part of the "grand conspiracy to take over the world?"

Oh yeah, I'm also American. I'm a practicing Muslim, raised in a western culture, contributing to western society, and fitting right in...

I'm really disappointed to see some of the hate and prejudice that plagues the ignorant portion of the offliners here on HN - I thought hackers were supposed to be more open minded and stuff!
It's probably used considerably more in spoken English, where intonation can help with the ambiguity. I have a hard time believing somebody would use "had" so many times together in writing without trying to rephrase themselves.

'Have' is also an interesting case, because aside from meaning the act of possessing, it is also a kind of case/tense modifier for other verbs. ("I ate" vs. "I would have eaten" + "the whole tub of gelato.")

In the writing above, you put the third had in single quotes, which implies you're discussing the word usage itself rather than trying to use it again. Similarly, your intonation would probably be elongated. Granted, a non-fluent speaker may not yet pick up on these cues, but they are there.
The street address is just one of the simplest parts of modern profiles nowadays. But, yes, this is one of the features of Atomkeep.

In addition to street address, you also have your education and work experience blocks for example.

Originally, we planned to have screenshots or flash demo, however, we never came up with a good scenario for that. Once you are registered, all our screens are pretty simple. However, I'll raise this problem again and discuss with the team, thanks for pointing this out.
The pain: several accounts (LinkedIn, facebook, MySpace) and keeping their profiles updated.
Ask YC: Using PayPal to invoice international clients?
I'm doing consulting and software development work for international clients. I'm in Canada, most of my clients are in Europe.

I'm considering using PayPal to send international invoices. Since it takes away some of the pains of international bank transfers.

I'm curious if anyone here is using PayPal to send invoices to international customers and how that is working out for you? Do you find their cost acceptable?
what does the name mean?

the text at the top, especially the bold stuff, is too prominent and takes too much vertical space. you don't want new users to read that.
Your first sentence is accurate, the second is kind of nasty and distracts from your message:

> Raising a child is a lot more than "spwaning offspring."

which is very important. Most anyone can reproduce, but raising a child is something that takes skill and effort.
Reddit should drop the algorythm and embrace digg's logic of moving down older posts as new posts come alive.

I hate having to re-read everything just to look for something new to read.
Is it possible that after the incredible disasters that windows 7 will be, Microsoft engineers a new OS with an UNIX kernel and a proprietary layer on top of it? Just a thought.
Same applies to HN btw.
Ask HN: NAPs by Country?
Does anyone know where one would find a list of Network Access Providers and the NSPs they provide their services to, preferably listed by countries?

I'm trying to get the big picture of how various countries are connected to the Internet and check out the correlations with some of the international Web 2.0 access/involvement patterns.
If I give you my Facebook credentials do you log in to my account? That's actually a good way to get my account banned.

So, right from the start, there's a trust issue. I suspect the trust issue will be bigger than you think because of your target audience.

It's clear from your home page that you're targeting professionals and not, say, teenagers. That's the aesthetic, at least. But these people are going to be the most particular about what you do with their data.

That is, you're targeting the data-conscious and then asking them to give you access to their data.
That's just unacceptable behavior.

If we were really a force as internet consumers, we should drop them in mass to show them not to fuck up with us.

And every wrongdoer after them.
Same sentiments as parent poster. A quibble, however: I saw google talk listed thrice in the profile editor.
OK, that explains fish fish eat eat, but what about fish fish fish eat eat eat?

(Now there's a sentence I never thought I'd be typing today.)
1. Nobody knows, but according to the current trends on sharing data, FB (and others) are more likely to stick on "sneak preview" of the data. Everyone want to be the central data storage, but not us. This is not our primary goal to store profile. Our primary goal is to make sure that all your networks stay in sync and always have the recent info.

2. We don't make data import feature as the primary value. It's good one to have, however, we don't do anything that the data owner (user) do not allow us to.
Excellent analysis. I would add a 5th option (and not that I'm recommending it; just that it should be there as well):

* "Drink the kool-aid" (i.e. buy into what the company believes/touts)

I think another saying is, "Fake it till you make it." It sounds like this is an aphorism the founder buys into. He isn't the first founder to use this strategy and, without saying it's right or wrong, I would just suggest you look around and take stock of just how bad your founder actually is versus the next founder/company you will go to work for if you do number's 1, 2, or 3.
Would you send me a screenshot to alex at atomkeep.com ? I'd like to find out what's wrong with that. Thanks.
i love my email. i want more. 90%+ is stuff i enjoy reading.
I would use this for my people search application. This would definitely bring costs down significantly. The economics actually work the same if you want to do a really good job (be comprehensive) with your search application, you need to crawl the entire web to find the documents (part of the vertical) your search application is interested in. You could use a white list of sites, but then that would not be comprehensive.

So, building a good vertical search engine is really hard, you have to crawl the entire web first to find documents that look like the ones you are interested in. At 100 billion documents, 20k bytes each:

Bandwidth = 100 Billion documents * 20k bytes each = 1.8PB
To download the documents at wire speed (gigabyte speed) it would take over 230 days. And of course processing, analysis etc. would take more compute time.

It would cost over $1M a month to process all web data on AWS. This is assuming we go at wire speed and ignore any kind of politeness.

If Yahoo were to open it's crawl, we would be able to just write our specific applications on top of Yahoo's crawl without needing to download the entire web on our servers.
Unlikely, there is no way to help you, if you're unwilling to give us at least minimum. We have a workaround for import currently in development, however, we can't do much with sync feature without being able to login.
No. The rating doesn't change unless people vote on it, and is a function of the logarithm of number of votes.
The name is stands mostly for "keeping the bits of your personal information".
That would require them knowing what each individual user's rate of refreshing the page was. This is a reasonable balance between showing newer stories and showing stories which were very popular. Many more articles are posted than make the front page. So you would be wading through a lot of severe crap all the time, every time you refreshed.
Well,

(a) You can't prove or disprove a riddle

(b) The Chinese Room isn't a riddle, it's a thought experiment

(c) You can't prove or disprove a thought experiment

(d) You might be able to prove or disprove the point that Searle was trying to make by using the Chinese Room, except his point was about consciousness (or even Consciousness), not about machine translation, so ultimately the parenthetical statement seems to be pretty meaningless no matter whether you make it "proof" or "disproof"
Maybe you're not understanding what I'm saying. If I give you my Facebook credentials and you log on and do stuff on my behalf, that's more than enough grounds for Facebook to delete my account.

This is what happened to Robert Scoble, for example.

There's seems to be an asymmetry, here. All I get out of it is convenience (or am I wrong?). You, on the other hand, get to sniff around my data. On top of all that I'm the one taking all the risk.

Doesn't seem like a very good value proposition to me.

This section in your "privacy policy" doesn't really me eager to jump on board, either: "Atomkeep.com may use personally identifiable information collected through our website to contact Users regarding products and services offered by Atomkeep.com and its trusted affiliates. We may also use information collected through our website for research regarding the effectiveness of the website and the marketing, advertising and sales efforts of Atomkeep.com, and its trusted affiliates."

Oh, ok, so you're going to get me to give you all my data and then you're going to target ads at me. Super-duper.
In other words, unlike reddit, the rating of a story changes over time. Stories get one free upvote, so p-1 compensates for that (new stories have no points). Dividing by a power of time makes the number of upvotes that a story receives in its first few hours crucial to how likely the story is to stay on the front page.

In reddit's system, if you take a snapshot of the front page and then stop voting or submitting stories, the page will never change. At HN, stories might reorder themselves because a story with few points, which was given a boost from being very new, will lose rating compared to high-value stories that have been around a long time.
Insisting that only parents can have opinions on the subject of kids is a bit odd. I would bet that you have an opinion on nuclear power, despite never having built a reactor in your back yard.

Society pays quite a lot towards the cost of children as well (depending on where you are). For example here roughly 10% of income is taxed to pay for universal healthcare, of which a large chunk goes to subsidised and free care for children. If society is picking up part of the bills it should get part of the credit.

(And I don't play Halo, nor am I single. I'm not even that young. Ad hominem is the lowest form of argument.)
Well said. Let's not forget this from the last year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare
I've been playing around with this idea for a while now.

Excellent you guys are far enough along to have a beta!

As jfarmer points out, there are some tricky issues around terms of service -- most sites do not want bots coming to harvest this data.
Also, I take that as a, "Yes, we do in fact log into your account directly and perform automated actions on your behalf."

Or am I mistaken?
The best solution is ... starting over? Really?

Because Microsoft actually did that at least once, and this writer apparently missed it. They called it Windows NT. Windows Vista isn't version 12, it's NT 6.0. (Open a command prompt and see.) Which is why the next version is called Windows 7.

The author actually suggests that MS should write a new OS and run old code on some sort of VM or compatibility layer, apparently entirely unaware that every modern Windows PC already does pretty much exactly that.

Love it or hate it, Microsoft's devotion to backward compatibility is a big part of what got it where it is now. There are upsides and downsides to everything.

I don't even like Microsoft. But the insanity that gets hurled its way is ridiculous.
Just to play Devil's Advocate here, I think the article has some serious flaws while making some great, fundamental points.

The biggest flaw? Stealing an underdog's strategy when you're not the underdog just doesn't make sense. Mac had almost no enterprise (outside of a few verticals) deployments when they decided to scrap it all and go for broke. Their customers were used to having to upgrade software (think Adobe, sound editing programs, Quark) every few years anyways, and they had those companies buy-in for the upgrade.

Contrast that to Windows where if they did, as the author suggests, start over from scratch, that would provide a HUGE opening to Mac and Linux. They would essentially be giving up their dominant market advantage. And for what?

Have they been hurting some? Sure. Vista's reception, while not a total disaster, has been lackluster at best, but their growth in other areas (home consoles, media centers) is strong, and their enterprise play is still a near strangle-hold (sure, you got a few oddballs running Mac, but very few enterprise grade deployments, where the real money in licensing and support is).

Why would they give all that up to copy-cat (and probably a poorer copy cat) their competitors' strategies?
The convenience is the first step, we've got more in development. Robert Scoble, as far as I recall, was trying to download all his contacts and all their information out of Facebook. And this is a little bit different to what we're doing. From the other side, I can't disagree with you on some of your points.

However, Facebook is not the only one network that we target to.

Thanks.
Our goal is not harvest data, but to export it. That's the point. I agree that it's easier to see the intentions to "steal" data from other networks, but this is not our point.
You are right, we log into your account and performing updating of your profile, so Facebook (for example) will always reflect the most actual data.
"Robert Scoble, as far as I recall, was trying to download all his contacts and all their information out of Facebook. And this is a little bit different to what we're doing."

Trust me, Facebook doesn't care. Having me giving your credentials and then logging in on my behalf will get me banned.

"However, Facebook is not the only one network that we target to."

No, but here's a question: of your target audience what percentage have a Facebook account?

Not that it matters. Most social sites (or the smart ones, at least) have a policy against automation. LinkedIn stopped NotchUp using the same rationale, for example.

Can you be forthright? Let's say I sign up to your site and give you my Facebook and LinkedIn credentials. What, exactly, are you going to do with that information?

If I delete my account will all of my information on your servers be deleted? Will you ever send me notifications -- whether via email, IM, InMail, Facebook message, or whatever else -- that contain advertisements targeted based on the data I handed over to you?
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