skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Considering this discussion has already careered into the realm of hot-button issues ...

... we could add that any vote against foreign aid would require congressmen to watch videos of Africans dying of starvation, any vote for defense spending should require pictures of foreigners dying horribly and any vote again it should require the viewing of a live re-enactment of the burning of Washington, any vote against cell research would require the direct viewing of people suffering from exotic, disgusting diseases, anything offending the catholics should require a harangue describing the multiple tortures involves in Hell and so-forth...

I flagged this topic but, like Dogbert said "I can dish this out all day.."
The line about the game of chicken is pretty accurate a description of one of the major sources of tension in a lived-in relationship.

What I've always found frustrating is that I've never been able to get a female partner to recognise in conjunction the following key points:

1) She has different expectations of what needs to be done around the house.
2) That this fact doesn't entitle her to conclude automatically that she is doing MORE of the work around the house. Because what 'needs' to be done first NEEDS to be negotiated.

Similarly, this author doesn't seem to express any sort of awareness that this negotiation needs to take place. The thought process as it seems to consciously render in their brains is:

1) Outcome X is a need of the house.
2) Division of labour in a marriage for 'needs of the house' must be divided 50/50
3) Current split is 70/30 in favour of the woman (i.e. she is doing more work).
4) Therefore, work must be divided more equitably - with the man doing more work.

This is perfectly logical. Men generally accept the argument is valid, and that premises 2 and 3 are true. They just often dispute the truth of premise 1. But no matter how hard I've tried - I've never even been able to get acknowledgement that 1) could be false, let alone a change in stance about whether or not outcome X is actually needed. Hence it never even gets to the stage of negotiation.

Given that they won't acknowledge that 1) needs to be up for negotiation. I've only ever really been able to conclude that what is REALLY passing through a woman's brain (as opposed to how it appears to them) - goes like this:

1) I want outcome X
2) I would like to expend less effort in obtaining what I want, so that I can have more of what I want.
3) Division of labour in a marriage for 'wants of the woman' must be divided 50/50 percent
4) Current split is 70/30 in favour of the woman (i.e. she is doing more work).
5) Therefore, work must be divided less equitably - with the man doing more work.

Yes - I'm very.... very single.
Yeah, sorry I didn't want to make my response longer than needed to be.

None of the Up or Neutral clients were Yellow Pages - most were referrals from the same level (ie, Up / great clients had been referred mostly by other Up clients, and similarly with Neutrals, plus some general networking). Which does reinforce the 'you are who you hang with' conclusion I've drawn.
What is your vision?
From the article:

One of the most crucial IT reforms proposed by Kundra relates to startups. Kundra said the administration wants to make it easier for federal government to work with the small, agile technology companies that are constantly iterating.
Interesting. I'd be so happy to receive a functioning computer for free with some new OS on it that I'd be too star-struck to see its warts for quite a while.
Coming next: A swarm of leaks
It's tough to know what you're really passionate about, though. One way to think about it, that I've found useful, is to say that you're passionate about something if you love coming in to work and doing things, and time goes by so fast that you have no idea how it's late at night already. If you can pull that off consistently, then you're somewhat on the right track.
The mac was doing well before the iPhone came out.

In this case, I think "well" means, better than NeXT. They were doing well like WP7 is doing well. It's doing well for where they were at, but MacOS is still largely an orphaned dev platform.
Seattle School Board votes to keep 'Brave New World' on curriculum
Some questions, e.g.: should we ... are scientific

No, none of those "should we" questions are scientific. Those are policy questions. Policy is informed by science, but passes through a filter of cultural values as well.

I've said it several times here, but I'll do so again. Just because we can establish a theory as true does not necessarily lead to any particular policy.

Suppose that climate change is not happening, at least to the extent of the sky falling. That does not mean that we do not have an obligation to preserve our environment; that is still determined by our values.

Conversely, even if the climate is changing as significantly as some say, it doesn't necessarily mean that we must change our lifestyle to avoid it. Again, it's a question of values.

Science should not be seen to lead directly to policy.
16 year old arrested for DDOS attack on MasterCard in The Hague, The Netherlands
The original version in Dutch: http://www.nrc.nl/binnenland/article2648033.ece/16-jarige_opgepakt_voor_cyberaanval_op_MasterCard
That's not true, at least not absolutely true. I've done this as recently as a month ago. I've been doing $2000 a month for the last year on my Bank of America 2% cash back rewards card ($40 cash a month into my bank account).

The way the Mint reacted was by imposing a new limit to the dollar amount one can buy in a month.
Yes, politics certainly puts humans at their most irrational indeed! It's quite some gymnastics you're turning here.

Somehow, you've ended up saying that when educated citizens overwhelmingly support one governing philosophy, it's not only somehow bad for the educated citizens, it's also bad for the philosophy! That's a neat trick.

(btw, that philosophy -- american 'liberalism' -- would barely deserve the name in any other 1st world country)

You started off almost saying something, but i'm not sure your thesis holds ('...in a two party system, any group...') Take the converse. I could also say that the group of anti-intellectuals has completely affiliated themselves with the Republican party, damaging themselves and the Republicans. Same thing, right?

Anyway, you reminded me of the 'everything that happens is good for John McCain' meme, which might be worth researching. One particularly egregious example is here:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2008/07/29/life-imitates-farce/

cheers, and let's try not to bullshit ourselves.
Just curious what led you to believe he wasn't passionate about Facebook? He was involved a couple other social networking type stuff like ConnectU and his HotOrNot clone. To me, it seems he was at least interested in exploring the domain space.
Yeah, this was the rhetoric of 2000-2001. To me the whole article seems like a time capsule from that period. Not that there aren't plenty of true observations in there, but if anything I think the last 5 years has seen a revival in a recognition of the value of local on the ground talent.
There was that one married guy on HN a few weeks ago who knocked up his cofounder. That's passionate.
Oddly enough, I think most scientist are opposed to immoral experiments as well.

The question is whether or not one is using rational criteria to determine what's moral.
More Control on Mobile
Yes, on the west corner!
But they don't classify it as a cash advance, and that little comment isn't the law.

For what it's worth, I usually keep one of the $20 rolls for tolls per $1000 order that I buy.
The context in which I find the ambiguity most apparent is when it's related to someone's motivation for being involved in a project. While it's clear that some people are motivated by the subject of their work - I think they are few and lucky.
That's reasonably targeted advertising though. If you're hiring a C developer in SF -- there's a good chance that the person you reject has a whole bunch of friends/colleagues/acquantences that are C Devs in SF.
And if you've got 1000 ex-applicants telling their colleagues - "don't interview with them" you're shooting yourself in the foot.
Ask HN: Are any other Android markets worth it?
My co-founder and I make a couple popular outdoor apps on the Android Market (including Topo Maps). I often get semi-spam from new markets spinning up, asking me to submit my app.

Any Android devs out there know if any of these markets are worth my time? We are going to participate in the Amazon Market, but I don't know about the rest.
I followed the links down to the putative patent they are attacking the security companies with. It's 5987610: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sec...

From what I can see, the patent is adequately summarized as "Virus scanning, only with a phone line involved".
I did this last month for $1k (the new mint limit) and it was NOT charged as a cash advance.
We still do, for now. But I can see the transition coming in one or two people eschewing handwriting for laptops in eachof my classes at the high school level.
I get that - the "flow" idea. But I can get "flow" in a pretty mundane task - filing in the office, grinding in a game, etc. And I wouldn't describe myself as passionate about any of those things...
The only thing they changed is allowing you to purchase that much at once. You can get around that by using multiple shipping address and virtual credit card numbers.
And just to clarify, the effect of minimum wage on employment is small because virtually no one earns less than minimum wage anyway.

A law saying "hey everyone, keep doing what you are already doing" won't have much effect, positive or negative.
Private sector scientists, yes. Private sector engineers, no.

Of course it's hard to draw a hard-and-fast line between the two, so let's just consider scientists as people who would say they're a scientist, and engineers people who would say that they're an engineer.
The takeaway from this is that models need not be based firmly in reality to be useful

What, then, is the criterion for being "based in reality?" Isn't it safe to assume that the theories that say space is discretized are also false in some way?

Also, a minor but important quibble: calculus itself is not a physical theory.
Yes. Funny how people tiptoe around that one. Almost as if among entrepreneurs it isn't legitimate.
I'm calling shenanigans, and at any rate if it's true it's certainly a corner case. an interrogation and confession? just like that? something hinky is going on with this story.
I would imagine their ad earnings, at least in the short term, will receive a bump due to them adopting more intrusive forms of ads. The constant text ads in the corner were only moderately distracting and annoying (they tend to cover up parts of the screen you want to see, having them in one of the left hand corners would be better IMO). I noticed yesterday that every few minutes it now loads up a ~30-second video commercial. Some of them have still-image preludes that cannot be skipped, but so far there has been a "skip" button for all the video ads. The ads are pretty high-quality, movie trailers and professionally-done commercials, but it's much, much more disruptive to the play experience than it was before.

I still enjoy the game quite a bit, but I'd much rather just pay the 99 cents than burn 45 seconds every 5 minutes to watch an ad.
It would be nice to fast-forward beyond this gaming era in which microtransactions take the form of purchasing your way past one level of rote gameplay mechanics only to arrive at a higher level of the same rote gameplay mechanics. And in which these companies thrive because players haven't figured out how empty their games are.
FYI original article in Dutch: http://www.nrc.nl/binnenland/article2648033.ece/16-jarige_op...
Russian Drunk Yoga
Yoga rules.
I'm on the side of keep this shit out of Hacker News, please.
When you find a woman that thinks this tirade is cute - grab and hold.
NRC is a quality paper in The Netherlands. Unlikely this is just gossip.
We just had our 10th anniversary. You're missing the point that in 13 years this conversation has been framed so many ways she's forgotten more than you'll think of in the next 5 years.
I wonder if the difference is when you look at "one and done" guys vs. serial entrepreneurs. But even then - many seem to change domains in subsequent startups.
It's funny how defensive your comment makes me feel. Probably because there is a bit more truth to it than I would like.
First, I don't pay 3% interchange rates and I'm not nearly as large as the US Mint so that's surely an inflated number.

Second, if he only got $200 out of the deal, his fault. I personally make $20 per $1000 in cashback.
I applied through the prompt on dev channel. No dice yet. (In Philly, so should have come by now if it was to be delivered today.)
please post this stuff on reddit..
Likewise, nothing yet, and I applied via the dev channel. Unfortunately, I used my non-gmail (but still google apps account) address by accident; I guess I'll be a datapoint for whether that matters.
I use them all the time for $1 tolls.

I expected to have a "this is a quarter, sir" moment but I've used them hundreds of times and never have.

Leads me to believe this is commonplace.
I was making that argument, somewhat unsuccessfully, with a VC friend last night. His counter was "I have to see that THIS idea is the one, among all the others you could be pursuing..."
for the win!
They seem to be redirecting that url now. How spammy.
You're ignoring the opportunity cost of having a card that gives airline rewards instead of, say, an Amazon Visa which wouldn't get him any "free" plane tickets but would instead get him Amazon gift certificates.

Credit card companies will give you free money (a portion of what they charge merchants), and that really has nothing much to do with how to travel cheaply.

If someone said "here's how to get $500 of stuff on amazon for $50" and the trick was to use $450 in amazon rewards earned from normal credit card use, that'd be a dumb article, right?
Their TOS explicitly forbids being anyone other than the real you on facebook.

However much that would stop you!
The article seems oriented towards services related companies that supply warm bodies to big companies - hardly surprising given the target audience of Computerworld. What is rather surprising is that it seems to take everybody who makes a computer do something for a living and groups them all together - as if there is no differentiation between the skillsets of data-entry personnel and the folks who wrote Hadoop for example.

What is even more surprising is that it views better software and the resulting automation as a great way of reducing (labour) costs while systematically ignoring the processes and people that created the better software in the first place. It seems the same article could have been written by the same people forty years ago lamenting the decline of jobs for punch-card clerks because keyboards were allowing programmers to enter their own programs faster and still ignoring the improvements that would come from this.
You pay with the card, and then you pay off the card with the student loans. Many colleges don't accept credit cards for tuition, and a local one stopped recently.
Sounds like someone has been beating their husband into submission for years by criticizing every decision he tries to make, therefore rendering him afraid to try anything even remotely useful.

The cure: both people must accept that the other person may actually have a good idea occasionally.
I generally agree with you -- I avoided stating that CS is more similar to math than the physical sciences for the sake of conciseness, and to highlight the science vs. engineering aspect.

That said, I find CS has some elements of what we generally think of as science. We can make hypotheses about unknown (and sometimes even quasi-natural) phenomena, and then test those hypotheses with empirical evaluation. The networking and Internet measurement literature is a good example of this, and I'm sure there are others as well (any measurement study, really). I don't think that's really the case in math.
I think one could also argue that a lot of science research needs to improve it's engineering methodology.

One obvious problem in a lot of even hard-science research is that the end-product is a piece of paper with some formulas and graphs. In this era of computer-use, often a lot of software went into it's construction and that software is generally not released.

Just much, a lot of science uses Matlab, which pretty much inherently makes the results closed to further use. This has been argued here and I'm well aware a lot of results can be too preliminary for general use. But it's worth improving this.

After all, the degree of mathematical sophistication of physicists and biologists has increased over the years. It seems reasonable to ask that their software engineering sophistication improve also (not that software engineering is as exact as science of course).
HTML5 iPhone app I wrote while on the train
I had been reading a lot about the mobile ad market and had some spare time on a train ride. I thought I'd write something to play around with admob and mobile. The first problem I encountered was I don't have mac and didn't have the android sdk downloaded. I thought for a little bit and then figured I could write a html5 app. I had seen a life hacker article (http://lifehacker.com/5658814/how-to-create-a-visual-speed-dial-folder-on-your-iphone) about speed dial for iphone that I thought I could make into an app within my 2.5 hour train ride. So I wrote it, bought a domain for it and hosted it when I got off the train (http://www.iphone-speeddial.com/). Then I got busy so I left it alone for a week.

The second time I got some time so I added admob, analytics and emailed the author of the life hacker article. Nothing came of the email but the analytics was interesting. As of today I've had 140 unique vistors. The best thing I did was listed it on the iphone subreddit. I also posted it on a bunch of forums (basicly no hits from that) and submitted to apple (still haven't heard anything from that).

Looking back on it, I made several mistakes. I picked a bad idea, there aren't many people who want speed dial and those that do don't use it that often but it was a fun project for the train.
Evernote is one of the first apps I install when upgrading to a new system or reinstalling the OS, so I would actually be pleasantly surprised to find it on a new netbook.
Really? That's strikes me in a weird way.

To me, (at least subconsciously) passion means a drive to do something out of love, regardless of whether or not you can make money out of it.

Being "passionate about making money" almost doesn't make any sense.

Better said as "I'm very driven to make money".
Well, that is a ray of sunshine on a gloomy day. Thanks for keeping an eye on the story.
I think you may have accidentally read a frequently-expressed idea into my message, that "science is worthless when it is not practical", that I did not actually say, nor do I believe. The point of the article is I believe more accurately phrased as: If we actually want to solve our energy problems, then we should expect to need to invest in engineering, not just science. The discussion was framed not as an abstract consideration of the virtues of science, but, given that we have important problems that need solving, are we approaching the solution in the best manner? Or, by conflating "science" and "engineering", are we accidentally satisfying ourselves that we are making progress when in fact we are investing too much in science and not enough in engineering, a mistake we might not make if we did not freely conflate the two so frequently?

In the specific context of solving real world problems, this question has meaning, and it's not the generic "useless science is useless" argument, it's actually grounded in very real considerations.

This is part of the reason I posted in the first place, as people are getting drawn to the strange attractor of the generic science vs. engineering question I felt people were missing out on the more interesting and more subtle question brought up by the article itself. (And personally I think "science vs. engineering" is just a boring and irrelevant definition debate when it comes down to it, everybody citing their personal definitions at each other and arguing which definition is "real" as if that actually matters. This article raises an actually interesting question with teeth in it, and works perfectly well with rather standard definitions of the two terms.)
Most opponents of stem cell research are being rational. If you take as an axiom "fertilized eggs are people too", it's not hard to conclude that stem cell experiments are immoral.

In much the same way, given the axiom "blacks are people too", the rational conclusion is that Tuskegee was immoral.
Good plan. I have the DVD's if higher quality is needed (or maybe that's what you have too?)
Wholeheartedly agree!!! And this whole 50/50 business seems to get taken way too far. Am I only supposed to wash half the dishes in the sink? What about when the roof needs to be reshingled? Somehow I never hear a peep about equality when it's 90+ degrees, middle of August and I'm climbing my ass up on to the roof.
translated: love making money.
Den Haag (dutch) or The Hague (english)
This means I can finaly delete my paypal account.*

That's right. I couldn't delete my paypal account because I had unfinished payments. To Wikileaks. Which paypal blocked. If anyone at paypal reads this: this is absolutely preposterous, fix it.

* I haven't been able to, yet
16-year old kid who rarely ventures outside his parent's basement gets lifted off his seat by cops who threaten him with a lifetime in prison and he confesses? Preposterous.
That's funny, my hands sweat thinking about and watching climbing too! I don't like heights but love climbing. Once you learn to trust the gear it's not scary in a gym. Outdoors it's a different story because of all the unknowns but manageable based on the route you try. You should give indoors a shot.
He's a kid. What non-delinquent kid is going to have the life experience, strength of will and guts to hold up under interrogation?
Don’t Shoot Down New Ideas Before They Have a Chance To Fly
The world is flat.

False, but true enough when you are building a bridge.
"...the subculture of the compulsive programmer, whose ethics prescribe that one silly idea and a month of frantic coding should suffice to make him a life-long millionaire"

How did he know about us back in 1988?
My apologies. Title is corrected. Thanks for pointing out.
If Copyright trolls do it it's no problem, if a 16 year old does it it's a crime... can it get uglier than this?
The RIAA tried this tactic. It didn't stop anyone from pirating music.
You wanted volume licensing, but decided to be clever about it and 'test' the vendor. You inferred from their unwillingness to give John Q Random Customer a single pro version at the basic price that they would be 'inflexible' in an enterprise purchasing context, which is where your error starts and ends: it's an absurd leap to make, and you make a lot of assumptions to get there. You also manage to conclude from this that they "do not have a competent pricing structure".

Asserting that you gained any real insight into their business acumen or their suitability for your real purchasing needs with your strange test seems deeply misguided. And your delivery makes it entirely understandable if people take away from your post a reading that you are simply self-satisfied at having wielded that purchasing power so capriciously.

Now, after some initial rounds of criticism (and the consequent derail of much of this thread), you've stooped to repeatedly decrying the decline of HN and its devolution into slashdot (although you are apparently finding posts that agree with you to be restorative of hope on that front).