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I couldn't believe I believed the cat hair on tongue myth for the past 8 years I've lived with my cat... But now that you mention all of human kind not figuring it out either, I feel better.
I know I'm stating the obvious, but Google, Facebook and Apple stories like this get eaten up by mainstream news. There are more readers of mainstream news than there are entrepreneurial types like us on HN.
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What happened to the "spend < $1" earlier?

What do you mean? He's saying that instead of spending about 60 trillion by 2030 we can instead spend only 9 trillion by 2100.
nice, thanks for this.
Some things I'm glad to have done:

1. Write a Hello World application from scratch. No C library, compiler, linker, nothing. You get a hex editor.

2. Write a non-bootstrapped compiler or interpreter using assembler.

3. Write a program that learns to play a game.

4. Develop a network protocol.

5. Write a web server. You can use the language of your choice, but nothing is allowed except a socket library.

6. Write a platform game that performs at least as well as the original Super Mario Brothers.

7. Design a circuit that has some sort of non-trivial purpose and build it.

8. Write Tetris in Javascript.
"that would be 100x revenue"

They are already expected to make well over 1B this year. Why would that be the same a few years from now?
I can see my cat move her tongue back and forth four times a second just fine.
> Cuz fights in the schools where I used to teach math would end up with kids in the hospital or dead.

I guess not all schools are the same. There is no way this would happen in any school I went to. Such school wouldn't probably even exist for a long time. Tbh, if such incident happened more than once, it would probably end up on national news. Then again, I'm not in US. Sure, there were bullies, but what you describe is just as completely foreign concept as your experience is to me.
As long as let some people go it's not to bad, if employees of similar importance to the guy they have given the stock to knew all it took was an offer for a big jump they would all do it. Letting some people take the offer though puts some doubt into the minds, are they really prepared to jump ship if Google calls their bluff.
I don't believe the "American character" is fundamentally any different to that of the people of, say, the Ukraine or Brazil. When you get down to it, people are people, and the variance in people within nations is far greater than that between them.

The reason that places like the US are prosperous is down to the basics: Low corruption; a functioning legal system; public trust in the institutions of the state. These are the (interrelated, and mutually reinforcing) preconditions for a stable and prosperous society.

The US also has the advantage of very favourable geography - it has strategic depth, it is isolated on two sides by the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, and it has excellent internal transport routes to facilitate internal commerce (eg. the Mississippi River system).
s/Facebook/MySpace/ and ask again
For what it's worth, there are tools that can help you avoid the bad parts. JSLint won't let you forget a "var" or "===" ... and if you use CoffeeScript, it's not possible to forget "var" or "===", because there aren't any.
This was helpful! Based on these links it sounds like I'm being too picky. I'd consider this guy a 'rock solid'. I scored him on the 50 attributes and he only needs to develop 4:

Focus, Comprehension, Verbal communication, Problem solving

Maybe I'm being overly critical...
It's quite a coincidence that you both mention Manufactured Landscapes and I happen to be currently watching it on Sundance. I'm a fan of Burtynsky but had never heard of the movie before. Synchronicity.
it finally took Google, Facebook and 3.5M together to make a story that HN crowd would be interested more than being bullied in school :)
The point is that, in a scenario where their market cap reached 100B, we would not expect their revenue to remain stagnant between now and then.
Google is starting to look desperate.
The people running Facebook clearly know their ass from their face a little better than those running MySpace.
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When I was a kid in Hawaii (note, young Hawaiians at the time were very racist against 'haoles/foreigners', I got into a fight literally every Wednesday. At the time, I was a 6' tall, thin, awkward kid, too thin for my height, so every Wednesday, I got my ass kicked. It didn't help that I was a smart ass, and content to talk smack WHILE I was getting pummelled.

Summer break came around, and I enrolled in Judo, Boxing and Muay Thai classes. I took an under the table job in construction to pay for the classes. I stole a kayak to get to work. Every single activity in my entire life was focussed on getting better, so I wouldn't get my ass kicked.

I jogged, lifted weights, exercised, trained, etc. I was Rocky. I was the Karate Kid.

When school resumed the next year, the first Wednesday, I got into a fight. I didn't lose. I wouldn't say I "kicked the other guy's ass", but I didn't lose.

After that, i didn't get into nearly as many fights. I was no longer the easy target. And there weren't any other white kids in the class, so much of the violence stopped altogether.

I'm sure you could potentially attribute it to the bullies being a year wiser, or any other number of factors, but from my experience, this argument holds water.
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An interesting part of this story is that Google knows full well who that person is (unless they've been giving out $3.5M to a lot of people...), and leaking that story to TechCrunch makes Google look desperate and less interesting than Facebook.

Especially knowing that they just fired the person that leaked a positive (though confidential) memo that was addressed to 23,000 people. (that is, not super private to begin with)

It feels a bit like biting the hand that just fed you a huge amount of money.
One wonders if it's Steve Yegge.
thanks for the responses everyone, so here's the real impetus behind my post, i've had this idea brewing in my head for about 7 years, the idea is really simple: a collaborative spreadsheet that's easier and sexier than a spreadsheet and structured like a database. i don't like table views in general, for some things it's ok, like tracking finances, but there's got to be something more interesting. for the record, i've developed back end solutions primarily and i just haven't spent enough time contemplating UIs, but i know what i like and what i don't like.

i was reading an article yesterday on HN about the top reasons why people don't start their own company, one of which was that people would find multiple excuses so as to put up a protective buffer so that you could never finish (paraphrased), well, i've decided that 7 years is too long and this buffer must go, i must get this idea out there, not for the sake of necessarily making money (although it will), but for the sake of me needing something like this tool.

so lists can be very generic in nature, more rigid than say a spreadsheet, but certainly more flexible than a database. i would have data types like phone numbers, ipv4/ipv6 addresses, youtube links, enumerations, etc. datatypes could be created by certain users. i would have readily available schemas that could also be user generated: grocery list, to do list, contact address book, bookmarks, medical records, dj event list, my favorite porn star image urls, defect list, top 10 list, my favorite youtube music videos, product reviews, car maintenance records, etc.

since users could submit schemas, this would mean that the variations of lists and their layout could be different. i could imagine a picture list (i.e. photo album) much similar to a thumbnailed matrix view like all the popular photo sharing sites. but perhaps for something like a bug list, i'd want to have something akin to a table view, just because it's sortable, you could limit the number of shown entries, it's easy to scan from a human eye perspective.

but i'm not an expert on ui's. here's a thought, what if i could thumbnail every list entry type, and lay things out like a photo album? would a software defect list be interesting if it's laid out this way?

i guess table could be default view and offer something like a thumbnail view if there are imageable aspects of a record like a url, the user could toggle this.

i really like iphone's interface of having an alphabetically searchable index on the right side where you could skip, perhaps having indexes based on several things like the alphabet, date time, most commented, recently updated, most viewed, etc.

damn, i can see a custom jquery widget needing to be created.

anyone looking for ui work, i don't think i can pay much, this would be self funded, so when i say i really can't pay much, it's really not going to be much.
And http://e.ggtimer.com/, which powers steep.it and is less tea related.
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Since Google is actually working on this, I would read their PNaCL paper before calling the discussion "purely academic":

http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/data/site/pnacl.pdf

Summary: Send LLVM bytecode to the browser, and enforce sandboxing by inspecting the compiled code.
How many of us who got picked on would have had the guts to follow this advice anyway? I don't think that many of these kids have anything that they are holding back for lack of better advice, as if they can calmly choose their reaction when the time comes. How do you get rid of paralyzing fear?
If this is true you'd want to hope Carol Bartz takes some kind of pay cut, how do you defend cost cutting layoffs when your CEO is one of the highest paid?
Well, he did say that he'd read all of Knuth's books...

(See http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story...)
I can't comment on Google goings-on, but sometimes jumping ship is simply explained by looking at stock option vesting dates. Google only had 6,000 employees at the beginning of 2006.
Why do I need better analogies?

My point is that talking about illegal things is not in and of itself sufficient grounds for censorship, and my point of view is that "Steal this book" is an important book and an excellent argument for freedom of speech. A how-to manual for paedophelia is not an excellent argument for freedom of speech.

I picked that example to show that talking about illegal activities or even about how to do illegal things is not a good test for censorship. That doesn't mean I am in favour of the book in question, just that I am in favour of picking a different set of criteria other than "Explains how to break the law."

If you need a less challenging example, think about a book discussing how to break cryptosystems. That information can be used to circumvent DMCA. The reason I don't use such an easy example is that it leads us to saying "I/We should allow books that explain how to break the laws we personally don't like." I don't like that criteria either, which is why I didn't use it as an example.

I like the laws that prohibit the destruction of property with explosives, which is why allowing "Steal this book!" to be distributed is an excellent argument for me to ponder.

Update: The TL;DR is that I'm not equating the two books, the criterium "how-to for breaking the law" equates the two books. If you find equating "Steal this book" with paedophelia an abhorrent comparison, I suggest the flaw here is in the argument that "how-to manuals for crime are wrong."
If I just had a 10% pay rise in this economic climate I'd be pretty darn happy right now . . how long it will last of course . . .
I wish his voice wasn't so annoying...
The author wrote the only novel I'm aware of that really illustrates what it's like to debug software.

It's called The Bug, and I'd recommend it much more than I would this Salon article.

http://www.amazon.com/Bug-Ellen-Ullman/dp/1400032350/
My problem if a company paid me $3.5 million not to leave for its competition would be that I'd quit the day the money was in my bank account anyway. I wouldn't go work for the competition, but I'd be starting my own company.

I could do a hell of a lot with $3.5M, and probably make more than I ever would being an engineer for Google.
The novice says to the master, "Coal is black." The master replies, "No, it is not."

The intermediate says to the master, "Coal is not black." The master replies, "Of course it is."

The masters say among themselves, "It is coal."

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By reading this alone I can say you failed because you are stupid. Makes me think the system sometimes works.
The point is that startups can go either way. Facebook's doing well now, but it would not be shocking if fewer people used it in 5 years.
From what I read last year's revenue was ~$800M and this year is looking like $1.2B. I hit it right in the middle. Regardless, this is revenue and revenue gets you shit on Wall Street. No one knows what their profit is, but even if it's in the $250M range (which I think is about 5x high), it still has to increase ~10x to get into the territory that a $100B valuation would need.

They're also quickly running out of people with money to register, so I doubt we'll continue to see such huge growth. Not saying they won't make a great business out of it, but tantalizing would be hires with a $100B valuation seems pretty shady to me.
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i saw this last week, but i think this is no different than having a wiki that automatically provides some sort of flow for the unstructured text that i type in. i need structure, things need to be easily indexed, almost everything. i need to be able to perform searches on data like pulling up all ip addresses that i've recorded in my lists without having to type in the actual address.

i think workflowy is good for random notes, it's an interesting use case, one that i might use myself. and if you're suggesting that i look at the ui, i'll take a closer look, i think patterns are an obvious way to figure things out, however, i still think ui's are a bit behind relative to all the other technology out there.
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He's a computer scientist or software developer, not an engineer.
Four words:

Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma; Retaliating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_dilemma#The_iterated_...
Interesting that TS would fund 2 companies basically doing the same thing: https://www.usingmiles.com/ & https://gomiles.com/
s/Facebook/AOL/ may be more appropriate.

MySpace just blew it. AOL was a safe walled garden for people who didn't know what the internet was. As the internet outside AOL increased in value, people had less use for their walled garden.

The same thing could happen to facebook if the rest of the internet gets more inherently social.

s/Facebook Fan page/AOL Keyword/
s/Facebook email/AOL email/
s/Facebook Games/AOL Games/
GNU, and FOSS in general, is neither capitalistic nor communistic. It is academic.

It works in exactly the same manner that Western academia has for much of its recent existence, in which discoveries are published, shared, collaborated on, and built on, albeit at a pace much accelerated by the ability to collaborate in real-time over the Internet, instead of having to wait for the publication of monthly journal articles and expensive lab experimentations (like the LHC).

Just because the people involved in FOSS are not doing this directly for money does not mean they're giving away the fruit of their labor for free, or being coerced as Soviet Communism was known for. While creating things that directly improve their own lives (scratching their own itches), they also gain the opportunity to spend their lives living their passion doing stimulating work, gain recognition amongst a group of peers spread all around the world, become known as experts in their field (leading to paying gigs from commercial outfits), and create things with the potential to advance the human race and make the world a better place. All of it 100% voluntarily, uncoerced. If that's not Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, I don't know what is.

Go reread what Ayn Rand says about trading value for value. Whether you're trading the fruits of your labor and talent for money, or for something else of value to you, either fits just fine with her philosophy. Ultimately, she was an advocate for the creation and fair exchange of value and real wealth, of which money is just a store, and without coercion. There is absolutely nothing about FOSS that is incompatible with her beliefs.

This is one of the biggest problems with the Conservative movement these days, a misunderstanding and misapplication of their own ideology. Too many seem to have merely a superficial understanding of it, a worldview that if corporations, direct profit motive, and consistent % improvements in quarterly statements aren't the driving force behind something then it can only be the antithesis of Truth, Justice, and the American Way. Be it FOSS, Net Neutrality, movements to reduce corporate spending in politics, if corporations are against it or orthogonal to it, then it must be anti-American.

Einstein once advised that 'everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.' I think the right would do well to reconsider their world view with that in mind.
Maybe the work conditions have gotten worse compared to pre-IPO Google?
One well-known fact is that nearly every petroleum producer trades petroleum in US dollar. Rumour has it that if some major producers attempt to switch to another currency, she hurts US economy and will be retaliated by US.

Printing more money does not benefit Americans in general. Much of money is taken by US financial firms to overseas for speculation instead of going to manufacturing sector when the devaluation of US dollar is foreseeable. Sudden flux of speculation hurts the economy of other nations.
I like the pure javascript less.js version: no gem, no plugin, all in the browser: http://is.gd/gOBou and http://is.gd/gOBpV
Why LAMP just why? :)
At a point where their market cap reached 100B we'd expect their profits to be between 2-3B a year. (P/E between 33-50)

Considering that's 2-3x their current revenues can you understand the skepticism?
It's probably less to do with a bytecode 'standard' vs. a set of standard libraries for doing things outside of the browser (file manipulations, etc). Then browsers could just not support those libraries, but JavaScript VM developers could. In this way, it would be possible to not have 'the future of JavaScript' tied down to a specific bytecode implementation. Then people could pick and choose the VM that they want to run their JS in based on what sort of optimizations they needed.

One of the largest requirements here would probably be a method of linking against/using C libraries, and also a standard for 'import/#include/etc' statements.

Maybe I'm being naive here though. Feel free to correct me.
More like "Do the Cheap Thing". The email says he has a 1-DVD plan, which is $10 a month. So he gets a whopping 30 cent credit. Imagine if you were a customer who actually had noticed the issue. Would you consider 30 cents to be reasonable credit? All this is, is cheap advertising. A marketing gimmick.

The way to judge a companies customer service is to look at how they handle a problem you have. One of the reasons I have a negative view of Netflix is because I had a problem with their service, and they handled it poorly. I'm still unhappy about it. So if you're thinking about how wonderful Netflix's customer service, ask yourself if you ever ran into a problem significant enough for you to contact Netflix, and how they dealt with it. I think a lot of the praise for Netflix's customer service is either based on cheap marketing like this, or (and I have to give them credit), the easy process/leeway they give to common problems (wrong/damaged DVD).
But that's not the point, is it? We are talking about what advice parents give to their kids. The parents who would read a thread on HN are clearly the parents who care.

If a kid's parents do not care about him, I'd like to suggest that the least of that kid's problems is getting bullied in school.
Hmm, not sure. I hadn't heard of whatsapp before your comment.
I don't think the money just shows up in your bank account one day. From the TC article: "this means Google is handing over stock worth $3.5 million based on its value today, and that stock will vest over time."
That has to be done in software and doing that will be a massive amount of work.

But it's fun and challenging work, exactly the sort of problem hackers are willing to devote lots of effort to. I expect progress to be surprisingly rapid.
- Write a (simple) web server.

- Implement part of a networking stack.

- Interface with some piece of hardware in a way it wasn't designed.

- Create a browser extension.

- Add an easter egg that nobody ever finds.

- Code a strategy to a game and compete against other implementations.

- Discover a subtle bug in a very well used bit of code.
These schools definitely exist in the US. Our news focusses on the sensational, yes, but not all Americans have the same amount of respect for 'Jose and Jesus' as they do for 'Christopher and Ryan'. It's unfortunate, but many schools in Compton, California or the ghettos of New York, or the slums of New Orleans struggle with very real gang threats targeted at middle and high schoolers. I always find it interesting trying to decipher which murder trials hit the news here and which never see media coverage. I don't know where the bias comes from exactly, but it exists.
I'm sure that person (again, assuming that there was only one) wasn't the only one to know about the money.

It's probably more likely that a manager, someone in HR, etc leaked the info.
But remember, it's a 10% raise immediately after the company got caught with illegal no-poaching agreements with their competitors.
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Rumor has it, it's more like 2B.
I think this is an instance of a general point. Resourcefulness is an important. A finance person learning a bit of php and hacking something. A coder reading 'Sales for Dummies' and trying to do a walk in sale. etc.

Also, 'business co-founder' (as can be derived from the fact that not similar pd exists at a large company) is a generalist role. Understanding how software gets made, if software making is a central part of the business is important.
At this point, I have to wonder if it's really Facebook telling people that, or if it's TC repeating that line over and over for everyone to read.
I'd say Unix and C have more warts, and more serious warts, than Javascript does. But we have come to accept those warts in Unix and C as "the way things are" whereas we generally perceive javascripts warts as such. Arguably the decision to use null-terminated strings in C in order to save one or two bytes of memory per string is an error of much greater than Y2K proportions that we are still paying for.
The Facebook-Google spat over who controls your data
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Are you using this in production? If so how has performance been?
Culture beats strategy every time
The only way to find out is have a cat drink at reduced (not zero) gravity.

New mission for NASA: "Cat on the moon."

"I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a cat on the Moon and watching him drink."
Especially knowing that they just fired the person that leaked a positive (though confidential) memo that was addressed to 23,000 people.

Really? Wow. I missed that --- link?
Why? Is his work that valuable to the company?