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Reminds me of something I read on http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4217 :

Appeal to Lack of Authority

Authority has a reputation for being corrupt and inflexible, and this stereotype has been leveraged by some who assert that their own lack of authority somehow makes them a better authority.

Starling might say of the 9/11 attacks: "Every reputable structural engineer understands how fire caused the Twin Towers to collapse."

Bombo can reply: "I'm not an expert in engineering or anything, I'm just a regular guy asking questions."

Starling: "We should listen to what the people who know what they're talking about have to say."

Bombo: "Someone needs to stand up to these experts."

The idea that not knowing what you're talking about somehow makes you heroic or more reliable is incorrect. More likely, your lack of expertise simply makes you wrong.
Thanks for all the answers ... I also found this which cleared up a few things.

http://www.danshapiro.com/blog/2010/08/vc-insanity-economics...
Great idea for aggregating TC-specific news about selected companies. Though for more in-depth notifications I'll be continuing to use Google Alerts.
Advertising (Google, Craigslist, FB)? online brokers (zecco.com, etc.) ? Maybe also sales (I get more stuff from amazon that from the mall)
"That is basically profit-making on the back of others' work without their knowledge or consent, and potentially at the expense of the community the poster originally wished to support."

Doesn't that describe basically all of Web 2.0?
I didn't like it just because it had Einstein's name in it. But interesting find anyway.
you'd gain significantly more by reading a single, whole essay than by browsing that page of sound bites.
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I have no problem with my words being on the Hacker News and available for everyone to see here. Obviously I wouldn't post them otherwise.

I do have a problem with people taking those words and redistributing them elsewhere. Just because it's on the Internet doesn't mean it's free, and I fail to see how what we're talking about here is much different to this case that was doing the rounds on the tech forums the other day:

http://illadore.livejournal.com/30674.html
I believe it's perfectly OK that you can succeed in Algorithms at one school and not do perfectly at another with the same knowledge.

How is this OK? Its the fact, but its most certainly not the right thing.
What's the deal with that page not having any stylesheets? It looks completely broken. Am I the only one seeing this?
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> Doesn't that describe basically all of Web 2.0?

Not at all. A site that happens to be based on user-generated content is probably using that content with the user's knowledge and consent, just as pg does when HN publishes comments we make here.
I read it. I consider it borderline at best. While these objects could cause serious injuries, they probably won't under those circumstances, and a retreat is probably a better option than brandishing a gun. I believe you should never brandish a gun unless you're prepared to kill somebody, and I'd be very hesitant to kill somebody for throwing rocks.
Sorry, top level posts don't have a parent. When that's null, it's excluded from the XML. Comments all have a ParentID. I just added ParentID to the example.
Also, maybe, Meg Whitman is a moron? Purchasing skype w/o also purchasing the backing tech has to be one of the dumbest acquisitions in a long time in the valley, rivaling the acquisitions of bebo and myspace.
Ask HN: what level of education have you reached?
I want to know about the hacker education culture.
So have you dropped out of high school? or have you gone to college and graduated with honors?

What level of education have you reached?
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It sounds like something that could be re-implemented in {Perl,Python,Ruby,Java} in a matter of minutes. It's just randomly spamming a carefully crafted cookie that will crash FireSheep.
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Thanks! This opens up a number of really interesting possibilities when mixed with people's expertise in search and machine learning / natural language processing.

A long time ago I got hold of a large chunk of Slashdot's stories and comments. The text and karma ratings for each post lead me to try some fun experiments automatically extracting the community's sentiment towards certain topics or trying to mine Slashdot memes.

I've wanted to play around with the comments of Hacker News for some time due to the wealth of knowledge most comments hold but felt that crawling would be a bad idea as I certainly didn't want to cause PG's bandwidth cost/server load to increase.

Think about it - HN's a community full of people like me and if we all crawled HN to get that data it would be somewhat ugly, so thanks for sharing your data ;)
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I came in here to post exactly what you said. I know plenty of apple users what will pay the premium for a wide variety of users.

that said, this is about AT&T's doom, not apple's. as far as apple cares, buy their phones outright and use them any way you'd like.
It seems visually awkward to me, but I don't know whether that's a good thing or not. My eye tends to skip over things like 'dashboardly', on the assumption that oddly spelled things are 'gimmicks'.

A suggestion - dashboardish.com is available [1]. While it's still not a 'real' word, it seems to roll off the tongue more fluidly than dashboardly.com.

[1] http://www.godaddy.com/domains/searchresults2.aspx?ci=16811
> Otherwise the golden rule of the internet applies: When it's out on the internet then it's out on the internet - and there's no taking back.

That sounds suspiciously like the "The web is considered 'public domain'" argument:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1868736
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While I really dig Tim Bray's work, I tend to think it's very easy to get the wrong impression from his statements in that post.

The point he's making is that, in most cases, you should use an existing XML schema instead of reinventing the wheel - it's bad to have a NIH attitude. For the post that started this discussion, an extension or modification on the iCalendar todo specification would make the most sense.

The problem comes when you're trying to describe something totally new, or in a use case that deviates greatly from things that have come before - for example, I'm working on a network description schema for a project, and I haven't found anything similar, although it is informed by other schemas, from a variety of places (nmap's, and a few others mainly). Had there been prior work that matched what I was trying to do, I'd use it, but as there isn't, it's totally justified to create a new schema in this case.
Most places would not consider this to be a weapon-brandishing situation. Furthermore, New York State has more restrictive gun laws than most states.
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It ain't perfect but it's closer to real reality than much of what's on Fox News.
Yes, eduOrbit's audience is primarily school administrators.

I have braced myself up for enterprise'y' sales cycles, but one small advantage I might have is that am based in India. I personally see a huge opportunity in making a dent with educational institutes here that have not adopted technology too much and the enterprise 'rot' has not settled in them yet. Of course, that brings in another set of challenges, but hey I don't wanna die wandering without giving it a shot.

Thanks a lot for your comments. Really appreciate them.
So where are the RGB coordinates on there?
Is that a TSA body scan?
Here's to hoping one day there will be a large open-source DIY plan community. The $500 price tag is something I can't justify, but I would love something similar.
I'd like it better without the 'l'.
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It'll be like fishing, but with kites!

Set up a couple of kites with nice long strings, wait for drone to entangle in string, reel it in! Free servos for me.
I was thinking more about sites like FaceBook, where users initially gave their info because the site represented a community they were already part of (like their college), and then FaceBook turned around and sold it to advertisers and app developers.
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What's most fascinating about Niklas is his recurring theme of P2P on Kazaa, Skype and Joost. At the first sight it seems that these companies are disconnected (different markets) but his true accomplishment was to leverage the P2P technology for different use cases (file sharing, voice and video) and at the same time making it transparent from the user experience.

I also find fascinating that even Skype's business model seems to be P2P-driven: Skype seems to charge only for services that use the company's infrastructure, while P2P services (those that do not directly use Skype's servers) are free.
Note: while this mentions that FaceTime is an 'open standard', it's not, at least yet.

Steve Jobs promised it in June, but he has yet to release any documentation or the necessary information to make a compatible implementation.
Here are some problems I see with the article:

1 The article assumes a causal relation between debt acquisition and a change in GDP. I can't even see how they would be related at all.

2 The article proposes that the utility of additional debt relies not on the use of the funds, but on a number based entirely on past use.

3 The article compares a scalar (debt) to a rate (GDP). This means that '1' has no special meaning in the comparison.
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I hadn't really looked into Scalaris much. I see they're trying to provide transactions on a DHT. Cool. Something to keep an eye on.
You can't necessarily apply a marginal price to every share of the company.
I would suggest requiring a token in one's profile to prove authenticity.
No, it's an X-ray: click it.
(I personally find the SQL null semantics incredibly clear and understandable, and find the weird hacks many languages take to have null mean something really confusing.)
I don't think anyone is advocating jail time for egging people. But you should at least get SOME negative repercussions from your behavior. A $200 fine should still enable people to turn "their lives around". They should at least be forced to clean up the mess they've made.

In olden times when we lived in small villages, yes people knew when someone was being an asshole. And they remembered. One more disincentive against bad behavior.

And people know they are dealing with a young person and the potential to grow out of it. All the more reason to make the consequences immediate and not have them learn they can treat badly without consequence.
Many modern high schoolers don't really have that much free time between AP classes and "extra curricular" activities. And I say it in quotes because like the AP classes, often those activities are the result of college application pressure (not always).
If that's the case, all crimes should be kept private.
I thought about this as well but I was thinking about tapping into the mainline to the house as well. Any ideas about the feasibility of measuring at that point? (Would be helpful for catching slow leaks, garden applications etc.)
Saying you can hack an analytics company's servers is cheating. I can just say I can hack GitHub's servers. Or obtain a root SSL cert. Or crack SSL.

If you don't trust a company and their competency at security you probably shouldn't be using their service for anything sensitive. You can't assume that your users aren't on hostile networks vulnerable to MITM attacks, etc.
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No, the audience for my product is school administrators. Please refer my other comment in this thread - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1881459
I don't personally use Facebook. I don't like the way they operate, for much the reasons you describe. However, I expect there is at least some small print that users theoretically signed up for when they created an account that gives Facebook the sorts of rights you mentioned, so it's a rather different case.

Also, Facebook has been slapped down several times recently by government authorities/privacy regulators for going too far. If I were running an organisation like Facebook or Google, I'd be pretty concerned today about the privacy backlash that seems to be building in many countries as everyday non-geek users become more aware of how these companies operate and the potential risks associated with such liberal use of personal data. I think that's probably a discussion for another thread, though.
I totally agree. In those cases I usually point people in the direction of TOR and the like. The orginal poster just asked if HTTPS was the only way to get around Firesheep, and the answer of course is no it isn't.

I still think HTTPS is the best way forward (never said anything to dispute that), but right now if you want speed (tor is slow!) and still want be safe, a SSH tunnel is the way to go.

Besides, anyone reading Hacker News is probably comfortable with creating a SSH tunnel, or learning how to do so :)
So the founders who own majority of the company, can be outnumbered on the board and have little influence over "strategic tactical" decisions etc?
Yeah, then don't do that, that's the point. Whether you include mixed content in your site is up to you, the developer.
Multiple studies [1][2] have shown that Gunnar Optiks are at best a placebo. As you might have guessed, Gunnar released test results [3] contradicting these assessments.

[1] http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/4282190

[2] http://commons.pacificu.edu/verg/ (see bottom two links)

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I also love this term. It reminded me of a wonderful post by Marc Andreessen from 2007, where he discusses "Luck and the entrepreneur.. The four kinds of luck"

http://pmarchive.com/luck_and_the_entrepreneur

In the post, he skillfully dissects the book Chase, Chance, and Creativity (1978) by Dr. James Austin - a neurologist and philosopher.
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I totally agree with that.

In general all the posts could be serving as pointers to something deeper and with more content. I guess that is what this post does too.

Feynman's contributions to physics, essay writing, teaching could definitely can not be exhausted in a single post.
I imagine it does... It has to at least know who upvoted, to prevent revotes. The timestamp is frequently stored as well.
There are plenty of decent-quality state universities that have essentially mechanistic admissions by functions of GPA, class rank, & standardized test scores.
From that page (compare to the image):

"These images are friendly enough to post in a preschool. Heck, it could even make the cover of Reader’s Digest and not offend anybody." -- http://blog.tsa.gov/2008/04/first-significant-deployment-of....

Wow, I can't believe they actually said that.
From your blog: "Sending out lots of random data, especially over a wireless network, can disturb everyone else on the network and result in their connections becoming slow and/or unreliable. In addition, FireShepherd by default sends all this data out over the Internet to www.facebook.com, placing unnecessary load on their servers."

Your position is laughable at best - you're saying "but think of the users" (you're lagging their connections) and "think of the facebook" (you're wasting their resources) when your own software treats both parties far worse at least in the short term.

Suggesting that an HTTP GET set twice a second to a server that will return a 404 will somehow have a measurable effect on the performance of a public network like a starbucks hotspot is beyond ridiculous. Since a days worth of that traffic would be dwarfed by a single user playing a single 5 second low quality youtube clip - the evidence suggests you either lack a fundamental understanding of practical networking or you're simply trying to trick people into disliking a tool (that attacks your tool).

As far as your concern about facebook's resources, it seems highly disingenuous in light of the fact that your tool automatically makes a series of two or more http requests (that generate real, dynamic responses) to any site (including facebook) you include a handler for any time it sees a new session on the wire. Without any consent, including hijacked session cookies, even if the firesheep user never once clicks to hijack it.

You have every right to release whatever wannabe click2pwn tools you want. You even have a fair point about session infrastructure, though you made it with all the subtlety of a wrecking ball.

You just look like an idiot, though, when you try cry about someone else's tool claiming injury to the very users and sites your own tool victimizes.

You should grow a much thicker skin if you want to play big boy security researcher.
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> The idea that not knowing what you're talking about somehow makes you heroic or more reliable is incorrect

That's a really good definition of anti-intellectualism. It's easy to sneer at academic languages (and easy to hate them, just observe a college frosh/soph struggling through Scheme or Haskell), but things we now take for granted e.g., garbage collection, virtual machines, IDEs, object orientation, templates/generics were all (even recently) considered academic.
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I think there's also the issue that they're a lot less convenient without built-in syntax (or macros). Haskell's do-notation makes >> look like a newline and >>= look like an assignment. Without this syntactic sugar, monadic code rarely looks like an elegant solution.
Probably not anytime soon. The technology is there but it's going to be almost impossible to clear the legal hurdles. Currently you can fly these things as a hobby but you have to be within visual range at all times and there's all sorts of problems when flying near people or buildings. We can't even get robotic vehicles on the roads yet, it's going to be a long time before we see them flying though our suburbs.
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Or you could download their certificate locally...
Don't most people know this already?
How do you feel about Google/Bing/Archive.org/etc indexing HN and by extension your posts — and making a cached copy available?
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I don't understand how this is a bad thing. We'll have different lines of products, the more efficient manufacturers will stay in the game, the bad ones will have to pull out or will be relegated to unprofitable niches.

As long as I can have the Android equivalent to a Thinkpad, I'll be happy.
It has to at least know who upvoted, to prevent revotes.

HN has to know who voted, not which way someone voted. HN doesn't let you change your vote once its been made, but it does let you downvote once you have enough karma.
Did they write that article after browsing digital point?
Facebook's HTTPS site is utterly useless.

1. Go to https://www.facebook.com/

2. Log in.

3. Immediately you get redirected back to http://www.facebook.com WTF?!

4. Click logout.

5. Go back to https://www.facebook.com/

6. This time you get redirected to https://ssl.facebook.com/ and you're STILL LOGGED IN.

Actually now that I try the same thing with the non-SSL version of the site I have the same problem. WTF is going on? The only way I'm able to log out is by deleting the facebook.com cookies.

I'm on Safari 5.
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One of the problems with hacker news is that while there is great discussion whether it is one a short lived story or evergreen advice it pretty much fades into obscurity a couple of days after it is posted.

There have been curation efforts in the past and collections like this make it even more accessible and feasible the someone will apply some good NLP to organise the data in such a way to provide the benefit of the older content which is still relevant.
my bet is that is going to release it after Christmas. Right now he has the perfect environment where people like me (who lives in the US) buy as xmas present for his mother (who lives in Italy) an iPod touch so that we can video chat without having to explain how to make Skype work or install a webcam.
Hmm. It's hard to respond to this without getting into the "ly" issue. I guess what rubs me the wrong way about Dashboardly is that it feels like it will be dated quickly... just like anything with the prefix "my" (MySpace) or "i" (every software company has an 'iKnow' tool, I'm positive).

At the risk of dating yourself, I'd hesitate to use it.

But, that aside, it's cute and memorable. And the part before the "ly" is very obvious/clear, which is the best you can hope for in a URL.

Hmm, the more I think about it, the more it grows on me. Go for it! :)
Big pro for me:
"Developing for it is easy and consistent across the devices that it runs on, unlike Android, which requires testing and specialized development for each different handset."

Big negative:
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But it doesn't actually fix the underlying problem, only mask it. It's like breaking your leg, taking some Tylenol, and then going for a walk.
On the one hand, the alt-text states that this is in honor of the 125th anniversary of the X-ray, so at its face the answer to this question is "No."

On the other, it would be interesting to know how frequently Google celebrates events at odd intervals like 125 years instead of rounder numbers such as 100 and 200.
Does anyone else find ESR's writings to be haughty and a bit sophomoric? He may be brilliant, but every time I pick up this book I get turned off almost immediately.
Have you heard the noise these things make? They're about as "stealth" as lawnmowers.
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That's not how the real world works, though. People (usually) get paid the minimum they'll accept, as long as that value is less than or equal to what they're worth.

If a Polish developer has a choice between working for a company in his own country for $x, or for a foreign company for $2x, he'll take the second offer, even if that same company is paying American developers $8x.
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There comes a point where "backup" does not mean another hard drive, it means another server. (preferably running in replicate so all you have to do is change a router entry to recover).

My bet is that Yoda would encourage you to know when this is.
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You need to read up on the ANSI standards for sarcasm.
This gives me an interesting idea: How about a Netflix for clothes? I bet a lot of people would love to have new clothes every week.

The only problem would be ensuring the clothes are clean and in good condition. You would probably have to have some automated way of cleaning the clothes if the system is to be efficient. Checking that the clothes are not torn up would be harder, but you can have the customers do that for you. They'll just send it back if there is a problem.
That's some seriously sick software. Thanks for the tip!