> 1. While of course the main reason would be to get a "paid peering", the DTAG network is also very good to reach other destinations, so technically it makes it transit.

Just because DTAG also offers transit, doesn't make a peering connection a transit connection, so, no, it doesn't. That's as absurd as saying that DTAG is also very good at LTE networks, so technically that makes an internet peering connection an LTE connection. All this is about DTAG accepting traffic destined for their customers. Noone cares what DTAG charges for transit, and noone minds if DTAG drops transit traffic at peering points.

> 2.1. DTAG has a market share of around 40% in Germany. Without a direct connection to them you won't reach them properly. The connection trough other Tier 1 providers is is awful congested.

Which only explains why you would want to have a good connection to DTAG if possible. I asked why you should pay massively above-market rates for that.

Also, suppose DTAG asked 1000 EUR per TB of inbound traffic. Would you still use that argument? If not, why not?

> 2.2. I don't want to sound offensive, but it doesn't really matter what you are doing. You are the exception, most people and your customers don't care about their business tactics, often times it's their only choice to go with DTAG.

It doesn't matter what I am doing when as a matter of fact I am doing what apparently most Hetzner customers are doing (that is: not buy DTAG peering traffic), which presumably is the exact reason why Hetzner still doesn't include DTAG peering traffic in their default package?

Or are you saying that you think it shouldn't matter because Hetzner should raise prices for everyone, including me, to pay for DTAG peering traffic that most of us don't care about, because you know better what I should care about?

My server has essentially no DTAG traffic, and certainly no bandwidth or latency critical DTAG traffic, so if you think that I should care about DTAG traffic, you are just wrong. Not every server is a public web server. Not every public web server is targeted primarily at a German audience, or even a German audience at all. I know when I need DTAG traffic and when I don't, and I don't care to subsidize DTAG traffic when I don't need it.

Also, I don't think there is anywhere in Germany where DTAG IP is your only choice.

> Of course the traffic pricing would increase, this is why I called it absurd to wave the traffic pricing, because Hetzner is offering a crippled line to 40% of Germany.

That's just bullshit. Hetzner is offering a completely uncrippled connection to all of Germany. It's just that DTAG for some reason inserts a bottleneck into the connection of their customers instead of letting through the packets that Hetzner delivers to them completely free of any congestion.

All you are saying is that Hetzner should raise prices so that I have to subsidize a protection racket that you choose to be affected by instead of giving me the product that I actually want.

And all that while there are plenty of options on the market for high-priced hosting solutions that do include DTAG peering traffic, so it's not even that you can't buy what you want to buy. Just rent a Strato server, they are a DTAG company, and you will have no problem sending traffic to DTAG customers, instead of demanding that Hetzner offer the same product as Strato instead of what Hetzner's customers want.