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I thought HN already did that. When my account was fresh, i could not find the down button for a long time. I believe there was karma threshold i had to cross before I could start down voting, habit I have since mitigated in favour of letting neutral comments untouched.
Imagine that you want to rewrite OpenOffice from scratch. What language would you use? That should be the next big language.
Gamification = b*llsh$t
yes but a karma threshhold can be reached in a few weeks if not days. So it's not long enough for someone to get used to the idea that this isn't reddit
I was a little surprised with D being listed as one of the main contenders. I guess Clojure and Go were obvious suggestions. Go has the backing of Google and aims to be everything we want (fun/ease of Python, speed of C++) and Clojure is the ancient popular Lisp with a modern twist.

I guess I would have expected Javascript and Groovy to be included. Though I might be biased, I worked with a client using Groovy and in that short time saw that there was a lot of use in the (local) industry in it.
I think the problem with F# is going to be competition from Clojure (which also runs on the .NET platform).
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Actually, I found the Slashdot commentary a lot more informative then the crypic IRC chat, which I couldn't force myself to read through.
I noticed this a couple of months ago.

I would post something like "hey, you know f=ma" (a statement of fact in a non-hot-topic conversation that advanced the discussion) and see it get downvotes almost instantly. Then later the score would pop back up.

What can I tell you, Lionhearted? The board has gone to shit.

:)

I think the problem is that, in any group of people, 1% are probably not going to like you (for arbitrary reasons) or have some emtional hangup about any random piece of information. But most of the time it's a passive dislike. Only about 1% of that number would take any direct action against you (like downvoting an innocuous comment)

However when the daily numbers creep up past 40 or 50K, that 1% of 1% becomes a big enough number to start seeing some kindergarten voting games going on. Nothing much you can do about it -- simply a property of the numbers involved. We probably all do it, but because it's only a 1 in 10K experience, it's so extremely rare in ourselves that we don't even notice it.
I think it's to do with the iPhone. I noticed this a long time ago on HN: any comment that could be interpreted as negative towards the iPhone was downvoted. Like you, I couldn't understand it at first, but eventually concluded it was because of things like describing the iPhone as "underpowered" (compared to a desktop), even in a neutral, factual, discussing-the-engineering sense.

My solution is to avoid iPhone-related threads or to not take them seriously, and to not comment in them (or if I must, to stress the iPhone positives explicitly). No, it's not a great solution.

EDIT as predicted, this post got a downvote.
You dun goof'd, OP.

Sorry, that really sucks. Then again, complicating systems invites error. Are you just trying to get your data off and leave Amazon hanging? Is the data worth the $600?

Either way, consider this a very expensive lesson in keeping proper backups.
I've been member for almost 2 years and still haven't reached the karma threshold. it's simply more difficult to build up karma on specialized site such as hackernews

reddit is general purpose, you can collect points merely by posting pictures of kitties or nsfw.
http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/
General help and discussion

International Game Developers Association:
http://www.igda.org/forum
A lot of activity on this one about entering the industry.

Not a discussion group like here but in case you didn't know it existed:
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/
I agree. And where it gets really nasty is when posts get downvoted without there being a single reply. That's just not worthy of intelligent human beings.

I never downvote because I think it is not the right way of expressing disagreement in a debate. I have words for that. Upvoting is sufficient as a tool for filtering large numbers of comments.
If you get lucky with a couple story posts, yes. If you're strictly commenting you've got a while.
I don't really understand his justification for excluding Erlang. It IS a general purpose language, and I can't see it as any more niche than some of the obscure languages he includes (Clay?).
I was a little surprised with D being listed as one of the main contenders. I guess Clojure and Go were obvious suggestions.

Near the end he references some mailing list debate, then comments that Go emphasizes simplicity while D emphasizes features, therefore D will win, because to him, language features rock. To me, this idea reveals that much of his "reasoning" is this prejudice.

Nothing to see here. Move on!
I'm currently working on an FPGA-related startup, not manufacturing hardware but developing an online FPGA development platform (http://www.plunify.com).

Octopart is a YC-funded search engine for electronic parts.

One reason why I'm listing these indirectly-related examples is that hardware for me seems to involve an ecosystem of different companies, each painting part of the overall picture. To me it's a very inter-connected industry: from the hardware manufacturers to the design houses to the software tool providers to the customers, etc.

As you said, manufacturing and selling a hardware product requires a sizable capital investment, not to mention challenges of maintaining a logistical operation. If the product design is not too complex, one can get it manufactured for cheap in Taiwan or in China... startups based somewhere else will just have to find the nearest board house to do the first prototypes.

Fabless is of course a good way to go as it eliminates a lot of the costs. That also brings with it business-model-related questions: do you sell the IP or do you actually want to make something in the end? Are you thinking about opensourcing your IP? Etc...

There are hardware-as-a-service startups, opensource hardware startups like Arduino(http://www.arduino.cc/), and many such companies coming into the market in recent years. It's definitely a rich playground with decent barriers to entry(hardware expertise, market knowledge, connections) and I feel that there isn't a "killer" business model out there yet for smaller players to capitalize on.

Would be interested to know what other hardware-related startups are doing!
" Nothing much you can do about it -- simply a property of the numbers involved. "

In my opinion there was a time when Slashdot coped quite well with their randomly assigned mod points and metamoderation. Then their UI became unusable, so I cannot tell how it works now.
Unless you can trick 4chan into doing it.
I prefer having a few downvoted comments to a protracted iPhone vs Android (or whatever the topic is) debate every time it comes up. Better SNR.
Poll: If you had to pick today...Python or RoR?
If you had to pick a new language to learn today...would you go with Python or RoR?
I will use whichever of the two finally closes Issue 3959 first. This is my cathedral vs bazaar gauntlet. May the best model win.
And maybe more radically, block all new users from upvoting.

Say HN gets an influx of new users who typically upvote inflammatory or LOL-evoking one-liners. If they all upvote each other, they all get karma, and the community starts to shift towards that behavior (because that's what earns you karma, and karma is supposed to be indicative of your contribution to the community).

I know I lurked here for about 6-8 months before creating an account and that time period allowed me to appreciate HN's community and what was and was not acceptable. Of course new members could still post comments and submit articles -- they just wouldn't have the ability to decide the community ethos.
Yea maybe that is it, 200 karma from comments for downvote privilege.
Urgh.. gurgle... believe me, I know all about that.
Make that 6 figures. You do know that 'Plop' is an insanely popular children's show in Dutch-speaking countries, right? Maybe you should talk to the producers? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabouter_Plop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_100
I have no problem with the donvoting my comments not so favourable for Apple in thread which attracts Apple fanboys.

It is a little sad that no one of the downwoters had anything to say to correct my view.

But can you elaborate a little why do you find my comment stupid? It is genuine question.

edit: comment link added http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1798461
I think the solution to this is to have no Karma on submitted stories.

If karma comes only from useful comments then I'd posit that the user will be more invested in discusion and not as likely to down vote others.
What's the ROI of your email marketing - effective or not
I still can't downvote. Not that I mind--if I can't, then random passerby can't either.

Social conscience++
You forgot my favorite:

$ time clojure -e '(println "Hello, world!")'
real	0m0.781s

Yeah, I know it's the JVM but still.
not really, just submit like 5 techcrunch posts, and you are pretty much guaranteed 200 points, just from the people who also submit techcrunch stuff hoping to be the first. And since these end up in upvotes, you are pretty much guaranteed frontpage.
I viewed it on Vimeo, rather than Kotaku, and the commentary there was much higher quality. I did wish however, that there had been a "no flash" policy during the filming, as the constant camera flashing was quite distracting.
See also interviews with Douglas Crockford and Brendan Eich in Coders At Work for some interesting info.
I think server side JavaScript is the future. One language to rule the web's front end and back end.
No curly braces, no hashtables, awkward strings, doesn't look object-oriented.

(This coming from someone whose favorite language is Erlang.)
> But can you elaborate a little why do you find my comment stupid? It is genuine question.

No disrespect intended. I meant that this was a little over the top: "It looks like the game is over. The winner is Android." I upvoted you from -4 though to... well, it still shows as -4. But yeah, I don't think downvoting-to-oblivion was called for.
Notice that it doesn't say all Americans are created equal or free, but all people. Iran has no right to trample on inalienable rights.

Granted, but it doesn't necessarily follow that we have the right to trample on Iran to protect such rights. In fact, that reasoning would seem a bit contradictory.
This is my favorite monospaced font, as its:

1. Free - it can be used anywhere, on anything, no charge, (which can't be said for proprietary fonts that ship with other OS's)

2. Looks good on screen and when printed (normally or via fpdf/xetex)

3. Has 0's and O's that are instantly distinguishably from each other. See also the I, 1 and l characters.

4. Is valid. You'd be surprised at the number of fonts out there with broken leading, or are in some way corrupt to the point that FontBook throws a fit.

13 point looks particularly good in Terminal.app/gnome terminal or in [g|m]vim.

Highly recommended if you're looking for "your" font.
To be honest, sometimes I see downvoting as a compliment. It just shows me how stupid other people are.
Digg was like this (and presumably Reddit and HN are too) - a small few contributed to the site comparable to the number of readers. So in the beginning there were many mechanisms (leaderboards, profiles, friends) for attracting contributions.
Even though your account is older than a year and you are a regular and great contributor, I suspect this might be an effect related to the "HN is turning into reddit" mentioned in the guidelines.

As your interaction and familiarity with the community changes, so does your perception of it, in particular of the flaws it has.

One thing that is great about HN compared to other social news sites is the high information content of the discussions, and I think this is maintained better by downvoting a comment you disagree with, especially if topic is one that has been discussed a million times here and elsewhere, like is the iPhone awesome or not. Maybe the downvoters just want to show they disagree without polluting the thread by rehashing all the same arguments again.
Oh dear, I seem to have mixed up the threads here. Kindly disregard...
Nope it's not, though I would love to see a romanian one, that would be hilarious :D
All true, but that isn't his justification in the article. He skips Erlang by damning it as confined to a niche, like PHP.

Edit: Reia would be worth discussing if those are major obstacles.
That's not true.

Your copyright law is similar to the US or Israel based one, not so strict as the main european one, which is based on the napolion code and is very very strict.
Legal personhood is about creating a single entity for counterparties to sue and a single entity which owns corporate property.

I'm not attempting to engage in the completely orthogonal issues which you are raising. But let me point out one specific place where you are wrong:

your other point, that you don't have to worry about implementation details is true until someone tries to bill you for your tap water...

This is utterly false. If you wish to file a lawsuit in any of these cases, you will sue one of two legal persons: Bechtel or the Bolivian government. You just go to court and name them in your suit. Figuring out the internal organization of Bechtel Bolivia, Inc. is not your problem - it's up to someone on the other side of that interface to figure out, e.g., how to pay damages if they lose.

(I'm assuming the Bolivian Govt. is a legal person, I'm not sure of this. If not, your lawsuit will be considerably trickier.)
Meh. It's a sign that I've been playing with HN far too long.

You know nothing worth doing is ever that easy. At my age going to university is fraught with problems too and I doubt it that I will be able to get the most out of the experience as compared to the bleak old age of 25. I've just got too many issues to worth through to do anything else. It's tiring. So, this actually makes a lot of sense.

I think that it's a statement about commitment. He's blowing $100k on these kids and they better put their eggs where their mouth is. I know that it is impossible to juggle both college and something like this at once, and it would be a tiring endeavor to tie up with schools. Plus it's awesome PR. So, I guess he didn't think twice about tying up with someone.

Anyway, it was awesome talking to you. :)

Take care.
I am not saying HN is turning into reddit. But I can say confidently that this phenomenon did not happen when I joined. It's a symptom of having more users.
I'd love to see Mirah hit it big (statically typed Ruby on JVM). Dunno if it will tho: http://www.mirah.org/
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Ok. I agree it can be viewed like this.

The main thing for me is that there is really big change at the doors. Fundamental one.
WW.com subdomains are all active
What I don't get is people complaining about the name "LibreOffice". "OpenOffice.org" including the .org, a web-related indication for a website, in the name of a desktop application has to be one of the single greatest trainwrecks in history of naming software.
I guess, you're right. I will do it.

Thank you.
Would you look at that though, no downvotes in this here thread.
Doesn't it make you angry when sometimes you don't even get to read those "stupid" opinions? I don't care about my karma score but I do care about someone virtually coming up to me, slapping me in the face, and then leaving without a word.
I'm surprised you allowed blog.ww.com, since that one seems too official
I had an idea the other day about being able to write client-side browser apps in Google Go. I found it very intriguing.

My votes are for Go and Javascript. One has a 800lb gorilla behind it, and the other has a ton of momentum, and I agree with the other poster that the maturation of server-side Javascript and the ability to use one language on both ends is very appealing.
That's ambiguous, 'new' could mean that someone has knowledge of the other. So if everybody here already know Rails then their 'new' language preference would automatically have to be python.

Also, you're comparing a framework and a language, a better comparison would be python with ruby or django with rails...
not really, since that will put a lot of emphasis on comments, so downvoting someone would hurt them even more
I reached it with my first post, i think. maybe it should be a function of community karma distribution, eg only the top 80% can downvote.
I had to think about it for a bit. I didn't rule it out up front so I figured it was within the rules I set so I allowed it, but there is condition regarding representation in the rules I set so I take it that person is fully aware of the responsibility.

Api was another one like that but we really will roll and api and will use that ourselves so I overruled that one.
Curiously enough I have made something analogous to your metal ball levitation. I put most of my school year into it, learnt a lot through OCW and it worked.

A good college program is like that, but where I live college programs are about reading books, sitting in lectures and getting good grades. I just have this funny feeling that it isn't for me. That said if I had to choose between MIT and Peter Thiel then I would choose MIT hands down no matter what.
my fault...I meant it more as in if you didn't know either...which would you go with

I know it's a bad comparison, but that seems to be what most people pick from...since ruby almost always is picked with RoR
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Justin.tv lets users trim and title recordings (they call it "highlighting"). I did that for my favorite talks, here are direct links with no skipping required:

Paul Graham: Recent trends in startup fundraising
http://www.justin.tv/c3oorg/b/272030715

Andrew Mason (Groupon): Polishing your turds and getting SUPER RICH
http://www.justin.tv/c3oorg/b/272030648

Tom Preston-Werner (Github): Optimizing for happiness
http://www.justin.tv/c3oorg/b/272031754

Ron Conway (SV Angel): You can do it too
http://www.justin.tv/c3oorg/b/272031486

Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook) interviewed by Jessica Livingston
http://www.justin.tv/c3oorg/b/272031868 +
http://www.justin.tv/c3oorg/b/272031906

Brian Chesky: 1000 days of AirBnB
http://www.justin.tv/c3oorg/b/272030551

Anyone wanna do the rest?
That was it, thank you
> If the goal is to keep Lua to a 200k core, then there should be a mechanism to add such functionality as if it's built in.

There is. See "metatables" - the behavior of tables (Lua dicts) and userdata (handles to C pointers, or raw C pointers) is intentionally left minimal but extensible, so that new first-class ("transparent") types can be added.

For example, Lua doesn't have full regexp support* , but there's LPEG (http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/lpeg/lpeg.html), a library that adds a PEG-based matching/parsing engine (which is a superset of REs). It's no less usable for being in a library rather than the core.

* Though what it does have (http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4) if often good enough - the main thing missing is groups, e.g. "a+(ab|bc)?d".
I've been looking at gamification for my startup & I feel ambiguous about it at best. Especially when applied to healthcare issues. There are plenty of simpler things you can do that will have a better impact long-term. One thing gamification seems to be really good at though is driving up traffic in the short term & I guess that is the reason why VCs are swooning with joy over these types of startups.

Question: does anyone have references to controlled studies proving the effects of gamification?
Why your comment is stupid? Because it is stupid.
Would you elaborate more about those Android tablets and netbooks? What models are there in the wild, how much do they cost, how do they sell?
How are sales numbers of iPhone and iPad? Slowing down?
Game is over? What game?
Android is the winner? What did it won exactly? And who are the losers? Apple? They are going to announce financial results soon, I guess we will see how much did Apple "lose".
Clickable: http://cmpgns.net/
I see, thank you. Our lawyer advised us to add a clause to the ToS and we, of course, take action against copyright infringement.

Thanks for the feedback!
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I am getting ready for the November's "Launch an App Month" (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1773398) to launch AppsToWin.com.

I just updated the landing page with a sample contest. Would like to hear the comments from HNers on my app and also what kind off web apps would you like to see in the contest.
I find 2 requirements for DNS (on top of the requisite uptime criteria):

1) It's not tied to any other services (so I can switch, say, webhosts without having to move my DNS config)

2) It lets me configure timeouts so I can experiment with settings without waiting forever.

For these I shell out the $30/year for DynDNS.com. Totally worth it to not have to worry about this sort of thing. I also get dynamic DNS if I want to configure a home subdomain, which is built into most Linksys routers.
Web sites (potentially) have different levels of dictatorship over the client depending on the value of information or service they provide. For example, only after opening a bank account I found out that their online banking requires Windows and IE (and that, in fact, their online banking is incredibly crappy). I bought a Windows laptop just for accessing my bank account online. For whatever reasons changing the bank would be a big hassle for me. In a way, the bank has a monopoly for accessing my account and related services. This is why their dictatorship works most of the time.

On the other hand, if you are a startup trying to gain larger market share, the situation would be of course exact opposite: you will make your service work on as many platforms as possible.

In my case it's a monopoly. People will access the web site because it would be the only official source. Unless my client revolts of course, I'm going to experimentally drop IE support and see what happens.
Clickable http://www.appstowin.com
I ran a BBS out of Stockholm, Sweden on my Atari 1040STFM with a MegaDrive 60MB harddrive which was really loud in my bedroom all day and all night, like a vacum cleaner. Many different people from all over the country dialed my one phone line connection. People downloaded mostly Public Domain applications have music in MOD-format. I met up with some of the people logging in, they were often older than me and could by booze, haha. Just reminiscing....