edit: just read this article if you want understand what your missing and why im actually trying to help you better argue against people like me https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/opinion/sunday/genetics-r...

> 'm saying the fact that people have the same skin color does not make them similar in any other way; people in Australia who are aboriginals and people in the United States who have black skin have nothing to do with each other.

You would have to be pretty damn ignorant of aboriginal politics if you think they have nothing to do with african-americans.

In any case, i brought them up as an example I am familiar with since there isn't many african-americans in australia and there are many parallels between the two groups if you just open your eyes.

Another example is the culture, most aboriginals identify with american black culture and adore those african american hip hop artists.

> Because you bring it up, I do agree that race has no validity other than in the eye of the beholder, partly because it's not defined, and totally because it predicts nothing but the response of racists.

Ah so you are a tabula rasa believer. Maybe you should read up on the topic a bit more as the genetic evidence that racial divergence evolution has occurred is pretty much settled science at this point. Also just looking at the quantitative evidence with books like the bell curve which still haven't been formally disputed it's very difficult to hold the position that all racial differences are simply caused by racial oppression.

> It is equally ignorant to ignore their humanity and the universal things that humans share, or to assign to them anything particular based on their skin color or 'ethnicity'.

I don't ignore out universal commonalities? You just assume that the only thing we don't share is skin features. Like from what you say it seems like you would even reject the claim that asians have a relatively high ability in rote memorization because that's racist.

> That is precisely the problem, and one we know well, which has led to more misery than perhaps any other human failing.

And you think just ignoring racial differences will lead to no human suffering? If so you are truely not looking at reality. How about a chart looking at the state of marrige of black america and the amount of children being born out of wedlock.

We know this is directly feeding into the crimainal gang problem which is causing genocide in cities like chicago to these poor kids but what could the problem be if things are the worst they have every been? Are you going to say it's caused by racism? That racism peaked above and beyond slavery and jim crow in the last few years?

I find the idea we are more racist now than 100 years ago to just be such an immature way of seeing world.

> Also, ethnicities are as undefined as race. Look at 'european-american' - Europeans in Europe often despise each other based on what they perceive as distinct 'ethnicities'; Russians and Ukrainians are shooting each other; think of Serbs and Croats; Brexit voters who want the other Europeans out; Germans and French (and many others) were shooting each other in the 20th century; in the U.S., Italians and Irish would riot, Catholics and Jews were persecuted; but there's an historic European-American ethnicity?

I could do the same song and dance with arabs. None if it really discounts the idea of race because when it comes to all those different europeans settling in america, they had more in common with each other than the african american, the american indians, the arabs, the chinese, the indians, etc.

If your going to claim that the only reason why people back then otherised asians the same way asians still otherwise other races was because they couldn't get past the skin color then don't bother responding because it's not going to get us anywhere.

In the end, the science is on my side. Hell I can even pull up articles from the NYT that completely disagree with your assumptions that race is just skin deep. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/opinion/sunday/genetics-r...