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> judge us by the actions we have taken in the recent past, our actions today, and in the future.

But please, please not the slightly less recent past? And not the telemetry stuff? And not the patent extortions? ...
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Where’s the slide for “Totally clobbers coverage of any Apple announcements from WWDC today”?
It runs on mine ok as well, but the fingerprint scanner doesn't work
I dont like Microsoft, but I'm not sure how they killed skype.

Yes there were a few dark years, but I think most IM was struggling years ago.

Now skype is pretty good.
I think the author is ok with "one of the edits wins," so long as all users agree on the one that will win (without communicating.)

I'm still reading TFA, but this is probably the biggest reason I won't use this system as described. (I will copy any useful ideas, though, and keep it in mind for future projects.)

For my current project, it just doesn't make sense to blindly merge documents. The result will be broken, or worse -- valid but silently incorrect. Having changes you made and saw applied silently vanish is not acceptable to me, and I think having users resolve merge conflicts might be. Not sure, I'm aiming at non-technical users...

We wouldn't accept this for code, though. If that is a principled stance, and not just a side-effect of traditional code syntax being brittle, we should wonder whether our users deserve the same.
Not only that, but when they can insert other media from friends/people you follow, it can potentially start a new chain of exploration. Even if you know that you've caught up, now you want to see what those other threads are about.
It doesn't have to be astroturfing. Repeatedly exposing HN readers to the same news would be a good way to gradually increase positive opinion until a desirable threshold is reached ("the first positive top comment").
That is Google propaganda.

Sun did what they could to save their face.

"Triangulation 245: James Gosling"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYw3X4RZv6Y&feature=youtu.be...

Also doesn't change the fact that even with Android 8.1, I as Java developer cannot take a random jar from Maven Central and be certain it won't crash and burn on Android, regardless of the version.
>"Every day, I grow more and more convinced that we are just utterly screwed."

Have you ever experienced "doom porn", fomo, etc? I suspect not, because it sounds like that is what you are going through. Once you have that experience under your belt you won't be so ready to believe wild speculations.
That phrase is from over 20 years ago...
From a development perspective, it's actually very community driven https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues?label_name%5B...
I had this debate for the last 10 years, and everytime there are persons to say "maybe this time they changed", and everytime use something like "Be careful not to dismiss anything that runs counter to your own narrative as fake".

The problem with a PR machine is that it never get tired of repeating the same story, while we do. And people eventually listen to the PR machine anyway. That's why it works. Not because it's clever, but because of human nature.

It works with politician, CEO, singers...

But yeah, we'll see.
What do you envision happening that will be great [for the current GitHub userbase]?
I can run a couple blogs, ftpd, mail server (smtp+starttls, imaps, pop3s), dns server, mysql, torrent server, a factorio server, etc. on rpi-equivalent hardware (some intel atom based mini desktop that uses 20W in power). What is the big deal with a git front-end? I'm a software developer and I've written software in an interpreted language (PHP and Python) that runs on that computer for that computer, and it's plenty fast for this. It might not be able to handle things like realtime video encoding and streaming, or other things involving crypto (I'd like to run a Tor relay but I can't), but a git front-end... that's not heavy.
Right, but my understanding is they are not profitable (they were, but have been trying to work back toward profitability).
That doesn't address my concerns, actually.

Mozilla is doing two things:

1. Bundling DNS with the browser (e.g. ignoring system DNS)

2. Using DNS over HTTPS

Mozilla could still do (1) and then use DNSCrypt + DNSSEC internally. Then, it would actually be used, but they'd be relying on existing technology that actually fits the use-case, rather than DNS-over-HTTPS.

For the record, I don't think you should ignore the system's DNS, either.
Its ironic that the three men in the first picture are as uncomfortable and edgy as the developers are.

Can someone explain why this merger is bad, beyond the usual refrain "Microsoft is evil"? I mean, I rally want to understand what the fuss is all about. It isn't like all our repositories are locked in some proprietary GitHub format and now we are at the mercy of MS. As is happening, people can always migrate elsewhere, and there is always going to be an elsewhere.

Are people upset that they have to take the pains to migrate due to Microsoft's involvement? In that case, it begs the question why is it bad at all. Currently, with my trouble understanding this, it seems like a knee jerk reaction, like disgruntled Americans talking about migrating to Canada post Trump.
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There are plenty of pragmatists ready to endorse actionable climate initiatives that don't involve the transfer of wealth and sovereignty of the US to a collective ruling body like the UN. But when we encounter someone who slurs the opposition with the 'denier' label, it's unconvincing that your interests are truly with improving the climate rather than proving a political point.
Oh, nice! Please update your docs. Releasing code is worthless if no one knows how to get it.
> Microsoft isn't the same company as ten and twenty years ago.

It's not because you had one positive experience with one small part of MS that it means the whole company's culture has suddenly reversed to be philanthropic or something.
Most international airports have a charity donation coin box specifically for this purpose because foreign exchange kiosks usually won't accept coins.
> Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they discontinued the product, shocker.

They do, it just can't pretend to be a full on computer, see the iPad.
I see Zig posted here on HN all the times and I always look at it, but still it has nothing that makes me go "wow" it really is something I need to pick up. Perhaps someone with more expertise could give me reasons why I should pick it up.

I have always been interested in new languages, so I'll keep my eyes out for Zig in the future.
So who else here is part of these groups? It stands to reseaon that thier best client is themselves.
> I don't know even my next door neighbours in my building. Have never seen them.

That's a regret that I have from my youth. I lived in several apartments and didn't really make much of an effort to get to know any of the neighbours. At one place, only after having lived there for 9 months, did I discover that my next door neighbour was someone I went to high school with! It's really nice to be able to just walk over and knock on the door (at reasonable times, of course) to have a chat with someone or borrow a cup of sugar or whatever.

We've been really making a conscious effort at our recently bought house to get to know all of the neighbours. It's really awesome! We're not close with anyone yet, we're going to have a BBQ together in a couple of weeks and get to know each other better. It's a really great feeling knowing that, even if you're not close, the people around you have got your back.
You'll have to walk me through your logic on that again.

How is repeated exposure more likely to increase positive opinion?
Yes, I think people should expect to move.

Microsoft cannot be trusted.

They make fine products, but they are definitely looking to make money from this acquisition.

EDIT: This is to say that Github was not looking to squeeze their users. I have been squeezed by microsoft.
Here in Poland, explicit public spaces are excluded from this specific hazard unless they install really dangerous implements.

Instances where operators of such spaces were sued over some kid climbing on a basketball hoop or soccer goal and the thing breaking have been dismissed summarily because there was no negligence involved - the warnings were there, the items in question in good shape. Oversight is not strictly required in a public space either.

This is a simple difference in law.

Inviting hazard would be if you installed for instance a tall climbing wall, where the primary use is dangerous. This is also a reason that anything walkable higher than a certain height needs guardrails.
Fair enough, but honestly this seems like far less of a problem than the large fraction of drivers who don't know how to turn properly in the first place, and just make that right turn without having merged into the bike lane.

I commuted in SF for a year, and I'd guess 75% of cars don't know why the bike lane starts getting dashed before an intersection.
Are literary classics behind the misogyny of the incel movement?
It was posted in 2016. It's not in response to GitHub being bought.
Well yes, they all have huge com departments with people creating accounts and maintaining it for years to get organic reputations.

We stopped trusting TV and starting trusting each other more. So they started disguising as us. It's the natural evolution.
Phew. As a non-Microsoft user for like 15 years, I'm really happy we setup my company to host our git repos on Bitbucket from the start.
Ask HN: Which organizations migrated from GitHub?
With recent announcement of acquisition of GitHub, one can observe quite a spike in GitHub imports into GitLab. Any prominent figures or it is just small developers and organizations?

Also any open source planning to migrate?

Ref: https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1
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I have a friend who worked as a diving instructor on the Gili Islands in Indonesia for a few months. He said that a lot of the local guys who would drive the boats couldn't swim, they also obviously didn't wear life jackets.

It just seems bizarre to me.
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The difference is children. Children LOVE coins from other countries. If you are likely to run into kids, keeping the strange coins is a plus. It's like keeping a seashell you found on the beach.
How many services do you think a big company like Stripe has? Let's be exceptionally conservative and assume fifty, with a minimum of a million LoC between them.

All of them need to keep working for the business to keep working.
>I wonder what people would have thought if Github had just disappeared

I would have preferred it.

Very likely their final act would have been to open source github and then we could finally get a good OOS platform that used their own issue tracker.

Atm the players are gitlab, a mess that barely works and reserves some pretty fucking basic features for enterprise, some random initials i can never remember (somebody get them a branding guy, even tom haverford would work) and closed source github.

So ya, i would have preferred if github failed.
Because their developer tools are pretty good and finding jobs as a .NET developer is pretty easy?
> There was no email notifying about this changes, it just happened that I've created a new repo, and then noticed some stuff missing.

Did you report it or ask why these things were happening? It might be worth getting an official answer.
They knew it was infected. That's the reason they recalled it in financially significant territories.

They continued to sell it for a full year after that point. Accidents happen, but intentionally taking your product out of one market that declares it dangerous and dumping it on another--for a period extending one year--isn't an accident. It's a very intentional, shortsighted move to minimize losses.
I actually visited, because we were invited to talk about a partnership in the area of Open Source. While the talk was certainly interesting, I was asking my contact directly, how the situation is internally. And while he is very much into Open Source and trying to push it (within and for Microsoft), he made it very clear that this is only a tiny portion of Microsoft and that the mindset of 90%+ of Microsoft is still the old one, trying to get rid of your competitors.
You're absolutely right! But just because it's OK doesn't make it pragmatic engineering or good project planning.
Nokia was struggling long before Microsoft came along though. They saved it for a little bit, but there isn't much you can do with a company that got so far behind it's competitors. Samsung, HTC, Apple, Motorola, etc were all light years ahead of Nokia even before Microsoft got involved.

Funny that the things you mention all happened under Steve Ballmer too...
It's not like they didn't do the same with Nokia, Skype, or aQuantive.
Yes, that sounds very similar.

One thing I didn't mention was that when my daughter finally started swimming, she would swim underwater until she ran out of air and then stand up. The traditional school would never have allowed this, as you were supposed to breaststroke with your head above water at all times. Since she started to swim some distance underwater, it wasn't that much of a stretch for her to stay at the surface to swim longer distances.

The transition from dolphin to swimming underwater to swimming at the surface was very quick and seamless. Perhaps she was still helped by being drilled in the traditional school's proper technique, but I think we could have used the new school's methods from the start.
> And because I can't trust the feed, I keep a mental list of accounts (maybe 5-6) to "check on" manually for content, which is way more work than I should have to spend on a photo-sharing app.

I use a third-party app for Twitter, since they've abandoned any relationship with chronological reality, but even so I keep a separate list of people whose tweets I absolutely don't want to miss that I check every few days.

Gosh, I miss RSS.
Slide 10: Microsoft <hearts> Open Source.

It's really amazing how much Microsoft has changed (to the positive) since Ballmer stepped down as CEO.
As said by every generation ever, since at least ancient Greece.
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Me neither. That's the goal I suppose: should the term had a real and defined meaning, people could argument we're not in this era.
If they meant "open source" I have to imagine they would have said so. "Remain" is the key word there. Github is already an open platform with an API and plugin system. Github is not already open source, so it can't remain so.
I think point of above is more that it's in their interests to make sure they never do any checks, so no doubt they never do any.

They could probably catch 99% of abuses by just specifying it in the contract with the 3rd party, but they have't done that.
Wonder what this will mean for other organisations and their open source projects?

For example, Google has quite a few (e.g. golang, kubernetes etc)
Absolutely, I arbitrarily dated from Mendel's experiments.

I figured there's a difference between knowing the method by which something works and simply that it does.
A lot of people consider it a villian of sorts.

Whether those perceptions have merit is a matter for another discussion...
Guess Atom is getting the axe then
Alex Hopperman talks about XMLHttpRequest starting as an initiative to port exchange/outlook email to a browser: http://www.alexhopmann.com/xmlhttp.htm

XMLHTTP actually began its life out of the Exchange 2000 team. I had joined Microsoft in November 1996 and moved to Redmond in the spring of 1997 working initially on some Internet Standards stuff as related to the future of Outlook […] I don’t recall exactly when we started working on Outlook Web Access in Exchange 2000. I think it was about a year after I joined the team, probably sometime in late 1998 […] we were already a milestone or two into the Exchange 2000 (or “Platinum”) project and had been carefully ignoring the issue of OWA [Outlook Web Access] mostly because the old version was such a hack. […] The basic premise of Outlook Web Access was that you could walk up to any computer that had the browser on it and just get to your email […] The [XMLHttpRequest] beta shipped and the OWA team was able to start running forward using the beta IE5,
I think the edge just means CDN edge locations. There’s been a trend towards making edge locations smarter (via Lambda etc), so you can sometimes send dynamic responses straight back from the edge, ie quicker than always deferring to the big data centre for dynamic stuff. Previously computing on the edge was restricted to fairly simple caching of static responses.
Aren't there also linker issues with cross-building for some targets like i686-pc-windows-msvc? At least, I don't think I ever got it to work properly but I don't recall what the exact problem was.
Well, unlees you're using something like capnp, where O(1) contains is meaningful when O(n) deserialise is not acceptable.

And really, if you have consumers/producers in different languages/codebases, built-in support for these things is a great convenience. You wouldn't say that objects/dicts in JSON are irrelevant, would you?
That's sad that you don't take this seriously. The wilful extermination of 6 million people is not something to be taken lightly, and something we should all keep remembering. Also sad that you're proud of kicking people out.
Precisely because the FOSS community is so worried about this acquisition, there is a lot to win for them, and if they manage to keep improving Github in the perception of its users, that is a trust and PR victory that would be difficult to attain otherwise, and it would help institutionalize their renewed, positive vision on open source. It can honestly go both ways.
>I feel trapped between Google who will give everything away in exchange for spying on me, and Apple who will respect my privacy but shake me upside down with the most ridiculous vendor lock-in tactics. I'm glad someone as powerful as Microsoft can play the underdog role and provide a viable third alternative.

A third alternative of spying on you while also engaging in ridiculous vendor lock-in tactics? Microsoft is the worst of both worlds.
Huh, wasn't it Ballmer who coined the famous "developers, developers, developers"?
When Microsoft sets it mind on buying a company, they're willing to pay almost anything. Remember when they wanted to pay $45 billion for Yahoo only a decade ago?

Companies that are exploring the option of selling to Microsoft know this quite well, and they exploit it to the fullest.
What I find perplexing is that for this and every other web technology, there doesn't seem to be a central comprehensive resource that explains it all in great detail.

It's like we have to pick things up as we go along, from tidbits and articles here and there, not of it complete or comprehensive, and often there'll be little mistakes or misleading bits.
Yeah but our US government made a bunch of treaties with the people living here before us that we immediately started breaking and have continued to break ever since.

This isn't something that's just an "in the past" thing, it's a current wrong our people are committing against the people we displaced.
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diktat just for those wondering
Very cool! The more I read about early computing, the more fascinated I become that the major problem innovators needed to solve was memory, not computing per-se. There were precious few things that could be teased into working as read-write memory at electronic computer speeds before semiconductor memory, and they were all monstrously expensive (vacuum tube flip flops, Williams tubes, core memory) or nasty and dangerous (mercury delay lines). Core, despite its expense, was a major breakthrough in that it was solid state and therefore much less error prone.

I can't find the reference now, but I remember reading about some early computer engineers (possibly on Whirlind?) contemplating the use of a microwave retransmitting station as a form of memory, essentially creating a "mercury" delay line with microwaves in the atmosphere.

This is how desperate people were for anything even remotely affordable which could be tortured to behave somewhat like memory! No wonder Intel made a bundle when they started offering chip memory. The stuff it was replacing was just totally inadequate for the purposes many people wanted to put it to.
I'd imagine those "freaking out" are at some mid-point, between trusting companies enough to not screw things up, and being so distrusting that they'd never rely on such services in the first place.

You seem to be at the trusting end, which is fine; personally, I'm at the distrusting end, so the reason I'm not freaking is that GitHub (AKA BitKeeper 2.0) could go up in flames and all I'd lose is a free mirror.

PS: I've never used VSCode; I avoid it partly because of its connection to Microsoft, but mostly because I'm very happy in Emacs :)
I've never heard of it but it's a useful idiom, I approve!
Yes, their implementation is (deliberately?) patchy with many bugs. They've been lobbying to prevent governments from adopting ODF (an open ISO standard with multiple implementations): https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/22/microsoft_uk_odf_re...
Not moving away from Github, mostly because I have no reason to, even if Microsoft acquires it.
I'm actually kind of surprised that HN permits clear marketing babble headlines like this, vs a more objective "Microsoft acquires Github" headline.
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Where is the HN relevance? Did Psy-Group or Black Cube employ tech to conduct its influence operations? Were systems compromised? Was there a troll center posting in forums? Influence ops via technical means are a real problem for journalism and online communities and something relevant to HN. I'm not seeing how this article aligns with HN.
Other than having two wings I don’t really see the similarities between Vayu and Vahana. BTW, a better source of info on Vahana is from the project itself: http://vahana.aero. Disclaimer: I work on the project.
You don't remember when the co-founder had to step down over harassment issues? This was all over HN a few years ago. A female developer claimed she sexually harassed and discriminated against and the company then conspired to push her with the founders' wife (not an employee) leading the charge. That guy is a billionaire now.

https://www.wired.com/2014/04/tom-pw/

https://www.buzzfeed.com/carolineodonovan/an-executive-depar...
I think the data. The thing about the linkedin acq that I always come back to is that MSFT now knows the technology stack of almost every company in the world. You can do a lot with this information including help guide strategic decisions like new products or new markets, etc.
No, the quote is saying that the name is irrelevant.

The OP is saying that Bayer will acquire the reputation of Monsanto because the activities of Bayer will be the same as Monsanto.