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Wait a minute. Microsoft owns LinkedIn, so it has prime access to recruitment. It now also owns GitHub, where it can run anything they want to find the best programmers. I don’t know what Microsoft plans to do, but those are good wats to find all kinds of talent.
This was largely my thought behind the move.

Given that GitHub is quite proudly built on Ruby, I can't see them wanting to switch things up from a tech perspective. GitHub is stable, and it's tech stack is capable of staying up despite some major DDoS attacks.

If anything, I think this is an opportunity for Microsoft to introduce themselves to the Ruby and Rails teams, and to finally resolve the issues that stop Windows from being a first-class citizen in the Ruby world. If they can do this through both Windows and the Windows Subsystem for Linux then I think they'll be on to a winner. It's a capture of a much-loved service, and an opportunity to bring a mature set of tools into their domain.
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Please, don't talk as you are spokesperson for anyone but yourself.
Half of Americans don't even have the savings to front a 400USD emergency bill. I'd say that's a pretty unrobust economic situation. Shit does happen, and not having the money to deal with it will cause more problems.
Until MSFT/GitHub does what Sourceforge.net did - taking over project sites from projects which moved away and adding malware (adware/spyware) into those ;)

(I believe with all critique on Microsoft they aren't as bad, but want to exemplarize the risk)
Indeed. I'm always a little surprised at how readily developers recommend VS Code, given the lack of privacy guarantees and Microsoft's recent track record on both telemetry and quietly overriding past user settings with updates.
The article led with direct measures of net population decrease and indirect measures such as the extreme asymmetry in the cost of moving trucks into/out of the Bay Area.
This is kinda my space right now - remarkably hard-to-kill bacteria. Some fun stuff:

1) Ralstonia pickettii doesn't really need much to eat, and thus thrives in ultra-pure water systems. Like, you know, the ones used to make medical devices.

2) Stuff in the Burkholderia cepacia complex is naturally resistant to lots of antibiotics, but also tolerates chlorhexidine gluconate and various quaternary ammonium disinfectants. Well, ok, more than tolerates - they'll happily colonize the disinfectant solutions, and then infect whatever you're trying to "disinfect".

3) Deinococcus radiodurans seems almost engineered to survive interstellar travel, but that's probably just a coincidence. Anything that can survive 15,000 Gray is scary.

4) Bacillus altitudinis is pretty weird too - like the name says, it's been found up to 40ish-km, which is an odd place for things to grow.
And even worse MSFT/LinkedIn is suing a small company for spidering LinkedIn's data.
I may be wrong but twice seems a stretch. I have heard of companies for instance supposedly paying a 25% premium compared to somewhere like Denver. So say 100k in Denver is 125k in redwood City. Of that 25k you get to keep about 18k... So if rent is $1500 different that accounts for the delta.

I just did a long bike ride through the redwoods and along the ocean. Doesn't meet my definition of hellhole... I probably will leave if I ever want to buy a house but besides that the area has a lot to offer me at least.

I do have a problem that everyone not making 6 figures is being pushed out which is another reason I would go.
Hindsight is 20/20, though.

At the time he raised the fund, there certainly were plenty of people who thought patent trolling could scale.
Well, there haven't been any more password leaks...
At least for software, Seattle pays just as well and with a much lower cost of living, giving tech workers the highest discretionary income in the country[0]. Per the study, it is $1500-2000/month higher than San Francisco. Anecdotally, this matches my experience.

[0] https://seattle.curbed.com/2017/3/16/14942904/seattle-tech-w...
I use a huge amount of open-source software which I do not believe is subsidized.

Some is, eg some linux/gnome devs are paid to contribute. But many smaller projects/components are volunteer-only.
Check out https://www.paysa.com/salaries

After running the numbers - the answer is yes, very much so.
Agreed on both points. The shift will bring a lot of opportunity to build a more decentralized repo base. I think something like (Keybase)[http://keybase.io] might be interesting.
Far better off working in the US.

The best markets for Canadian developers are Toronto and Vancouver, which are also notorious for their insane costs of living. Developer salaries in Toronto mostly cap out around ~150k CAD, with a lucky few able to make it into the low 200s. These are effectively starting salaries in the Bay Area.
Stop bashing Google without any proofs. They do respect privacy and don't share data you elect not to. In fact, their take out tool was released in 2009 or something, way before GRPR made others do it too.
Absolutely, and this has been the case for many years. Microsoft has contributed to open source heavily for a long time, but it won't stop a lot of people that have been burned in the past from not trusting Microsoft.
Buffet complained about them recently too, do you think Berkshire's latest report accurately reflects their value?
The salaries here are higher, but the housing prices are much, much higher. I live in Redwood City, which is a decent-but-not-amazing part of the Bay Area. A 1500-sq ft home is about $1.7m here. In Palo Alto, it would be closer to $2.5m-$3m. In a place like Portland, that same home would be $400k. The problem is that salaries here are 100% higher, but house prices are 300%-600% higher. And housing is most people's biggest expense. It's very tempting to move to a place like Portland, and either take a lower paying job, work remotely for an SF job, or even fly in for an SF job for a few days every week.

All of this feels completely untenable and unsustainable, and yet it sustains because there are enough affluent people that want to live here that their demand outstrips supply, and local city governments are criminally conservative when it comes to building more housing.
If they shut down vsts they would have to make github have vsts’ level of issue management, ci/cd, test management, ...

I think most people who use github would NOT want that.
That's interesting.

In Denmark the minor/major road is marked using "yield" signs drawn on the road:

https://www.google.com/maps/@55.6869206,12.4609582,3a,75y,26...

As it also in in Britain:

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.402404,-2.1741907,3a,75y,230...

or like this: https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4030975,-2.1705867,3a,75y,34...

From memory, that's also the case in several other European countries.
Exactly. And AWS/etc integrations will be the redheaded stepchild. Remember when MSFT had all that "super cool" IE-only stuff (VBScript, weird non-standard gradients) that then became the bane of every Web developer everywhere?
The core logic is in C, and that's not changing. The fact that QT is one of the few sane cross-platform UI choices did force some C++ code into there.

http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/pipermail/subsurface/201...
>>> Beyond sports do they have a lot in common?

They speak the same language, they go to the same shops, they watch the same tv shows and tv channels, they have a common healthcare and education system, they are governed by the same president, they share a similar history that they learn in the same schools.
Thank you for responding and putting up with me. :)

You are right, visiting India and having a look would not provide data to base policy decisions on or anything like that. I didn't mean to imply that. It would be enough for me to form an opinion based on experience, is all.

As I said, I don't know how milk is obtained by Indian dairy farmers. I believe you straight away that it is way better than in "efficient" factories. I assume they leave the babies with the mothers and let them have the milk and take whatever is left over. That'd be dope.

However don't you need even more cows then with the "efficient" method? And do those cows not emit the same amount of greenhouse gases as the poor creatures in factories? Not if they eat seaweed, apparently (https://foodtank.com/news/2017/06/seaweed-reduce-cow-methane...). Do they? Is that their natural diet? If not, is it fine anyway?

If they are treated properly, they won't eat food that humans could use, so that's good.

How much water do they need? Is water scarce around Indian dairy farms?

It's all so complicated. Just eating a plant-based diet is so much simpler. It would also be much easier if all sufficiently wealthy and developed parts of the world finally got the memo that some people want this. Where are you capitalism? Serve the market. Shut up and take my money. Pretty please.

I have no doubt that most of India is not sufficiently wealthy and developed. Obviously I undestand that consuming dairy is better than starving and I would never ever tell someone in that situation what to do. That would be absolutely insane and devoid of any compassion. However, "better than starving" is also a very low bar and not quite the same as "healthy food for adult humans".

It is not just about nutrients. If I mix vitamin C and rat poison, is the result healthy?
That's assuming people here care deeply about open source and it's philosophy. It's probably fair to say that most people on HN care a lot more about how building the next Atlassian or GitHub and conveniently being able to use OSS for that than about those philosophical values.
Are you referring to https://dlang.org/spec/module.html#scoped_imports ?

If so, I believe imports in Python and Rust work similarly, and, say, JS's 'require' seems to too.
Thanks to you, for the awesome software!
I already have email and calendar in the same application (outlook, thunderbird or just a web browser). What advantage does having my calendar and my PDF reader as the same application have over being two standalone applications? Same question for my editor and my email client - why do they need to be the same application? You need to press something to change from one to the other, it might as well be alt+tab (or whatever your OS of choice uses for changing the window in focus)
Ads like this no doubt. https://twitter.com/darylginn/status/1002879517751414784
I hope that we will never read "X Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire Stack Exchange"
With X being a GAFAM.
It's possible, but I think it's a stretch to say it "wouldn't be difficult."
From my reading on Hacker News, I may be the only person in tech who enjoys living in San Francisco.
I lean toward Hume's skepticism and empiricism. I also think stoicism is important. But after deep and reflective thought there platonism and stoicism, tend to be heavy on logic and rationalism.Whereas life is practical, and doesn't really work on rationalism outside of academic matters. example penicillin was a pure accident, found by experience then later studied by academics.
In the US cities I’ve lived in, announcements always happen outside the bus in case there might be a blind person, and the tracks used by freight and regional passenger service have boom gates, flashing lights, bells, and three blows of the train horn at every level crossing (every few blocks). Those trains still kill pedestrians pretty frequently, so there is little appetite for relaxing federal railway safety regulations. In Chicago, some bus shelters also have continuous beeps whether or not a bus is present to alert the blind to their location.
how do you do this? I can't find this option anywhere
I'd love to know what the goal with Intellectual Ventures actually was.

Did Myhrvold really think he was going to be bring liquidity and transparency to the patent market? Or was the intention really to be a giant patent troll?
Running your own git server is far from impossible. But you have to take into account various items.

1) the cost of the server, you don't need a powerful one, a 5 or 10$ a month box is more than enough, but it constitute a barrier for some, not necessarily because they can't afford it, but because they don't think their projects is worth it.

2) You have to maintain it properly, applying security fixes, having backups and maybe some basic monitoring. It's not high and complex maintenance, but it's far from a fire and forget thing.

3) Contribution from external sources becomes harder, you generally don't have basic "fork" and PR buttons in the simpler hosting git options, and if you opt for something like gitlab or gogs, external contributors as to register in your instance.

4) Github is really convenient if you are searching for open source tools that does a specific task in a specific language. Having various self hosted git servers makes it harder to discover new tools.

I do run my own Gogs instance which mirrors my github repositories, it's not heavy maintenance, but it's not exactly nothing. And I'm pretty sure nobody, except bots, knows it exists.
Women used to wear huge pockets like these under their petticoats
You can make much more than $125k in the Bay Area. You should try interviewing here just to see what you are offered.
"struh-TEK-uh-ree".
Before I even finished reading your comment I had the same thought about the DMV! The only other place where I've had a similar feeling of being part of a true cross section of America was when I was called in for jury duty last year.

I often hear people criticize courts, hospitals and the DMV all for being inefficient and unpleasant institutions, but frankly I love them for the way they tend to equalize people. Just being around people from so many different walks of life can be a refreshing change from the socioeconomic bubble I tend to occupy in my daily life. This article served as a reminder to make an effort to seek out that kind of diversity.
To be completely fair under Linux I get updates weekly more or less, but they're just not forced upon me to install them.

Also, in many years my amount of downtime due to Debian's unattended-upgrades is exactly 0. The same cannot be said of Windows updates.

I'm still hoping Microsoft see the light on all the telemetry and forced update nonsense before the Windows 7 cut-off in a couple of years. The trouble is, I can't see it happening as long as Nadella is at the top, and I can't see that changing as long as the big enterprise customers who aren't subject to that kind of nonsense are propping up the share price.
Actually, pop songs follow the same basic chord progression formula... Elton John MASTERED it - revealed here: https://twitter.com/TheMarkusAllen/status/996830643949522944
Another option is to heavily support the YIMBY party. I don't live there anymore but would be interested in moving back if the NIMBY crap could finally be turned around.
You gotta do what every other long-term San Francisco resident did: Get a nice 2-3BR rent controlled apartment, then slowly become the sole tenant as roommates come and go. In 5-7 years time, the place will be way below market rate and you'll be ready to start a family. Then just shake your head and shrug your shoulders when newcomers complain how expensive it is.

*Yes, there's some sarcasm in there, but this is what San Franciscans have done since the 70's.
With CandyCrush™ included in all free-tier repos!
Windows was completed with Windows 7. Everything after that is just churn. Consider for a minute that Windows doesn't need to be redone every 3 years anymore.
For comparison, this is about 50% higher than the same services cost from the major ISPs in Denmark.

Although where there's fibre to a large apartment building, it can be half the typical rate.
I think a couple of people will change to gitlab or alternatives because of how Microsoft was in the 90's.

But that Microsoft has changed, I see the most what people are complaining about is telemetry that is send, for following up on their biggest product. But all companies do this ( eg. https://techcrunch.com/2016/03/28/its-not-just-you-clicking-... ), also open source applications eg. Ubuntu,.. do this.

Microsoft has changed and I think they want to show it too, because I think they have more to lose if they fail with GitHub then when they succeed (with more integration for visualstudio.com probably)
I'm counting down the days until Teams has fully integrated all of the Skype for Business features so that they can finally shut the POS down. It is, indeed, the absolute worst.
I had forgotten about the Atom and VS Code angle of this. I wonder if MS will deprecate Atom in favor of VS Code now...
I also spent years working with Microsoft’s proprietary technologies. The reality of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish was still alive and well as late as 2011 when I mostly stopped dealing with them. Since that time they have definitely taken a new direction, with increasing adoption of Linux in particular, but I have trouble belieiving the corporate DNA has been so thoroughly overwritten in the last few years that this does not spell the imminent demise of Github as the broadly useful plarform that we know it as today.
This is true and I don't know why your comment is grey.

Why don't all the software developers move out of SF?
I am expecting the owners of these sort of accounts to just move away. I am certainly not expecting MS to mess with the accounts in any way.

Another issue:
Lets say I am a small business competing with MS on some very small niche market. Lets say all my code is on a private github repository.
Would I stay on GitHub for a moment after this news? I mean I know these are separate companies (Microsoft and GitHub), but I still will be moving away right now.
If you're on latest Ubuntu (or derivatives) since 16.04 at least you've been getting security track upgrades (through the default config of unattenfed-upgrades) forced on you.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what you get default out of the box with Windows as well?
PSA: If salary is the reason you live in the Bay Area, then you should be earning at least $200K.
NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]
Humans* aren't built for decentralization. We can only keep so many unique names in our head a time, only so many connections. I don't have any papers to link to on this, but I think it's safe to say that's how things are - if not we wouldn't have created cities, national identities, and of course, newsgroups, message boards, centralized package managers and distributions, and yes, source code repositories.

There is something nice about knowing, with a high degree of certainty, that any given open source project (or any thing) is in one of a few places, and if I don't know where that is I can ask for help to find those places by their names.
Remember when the person who called Linux a cancer retired and started playing NBA owner? And the new CEO declared Microsoft's love for Linux -- becoming a PLATINUM member of the Linux foundation -- and said he didn't want people using Window because they had to, but because they wanted to?

Maybe you should have another look... Microsoft isn't the same company it was 12 years ago.
Completely agree. But windows and devdiv are two completely different beasts these days. In think the people at devdiv seem fantastic and the tools they have done recently are great (.NET core, VS code, GitVFS, ...).

Microsoft may not have changed completely but part of it has
It is worth reflecting that, if Grace happened to be have a world outlook that was a smidge more venal and materialist, she wouldn't have been able to do what she did. This is because dying with $7 million in savings means that she could have spent about $7 million more on enjoying herself in life.

I completely agree with her apparent outlook, and would rather have security and the pride of knowing I'd given a lot more to my fellows than I've taken back. And if everyone thought this way then society would be a lot better about preserving and growing what we have.

However, I've met countless people who behave like the executive in the opening paragraph not because they have 'bad behaviors', but precisely because they are clever and in practice wanted to maximise money spent/personal resources consumed. I doubt they would word that as harshly as I have, but the implicit meaning behind the behavior is very clear.

Now, if you start with a value proposition that the purpose of the economy is to maximise the resources available for individual consumption, it is actually quite hard to argue for dying with savings. The families who try to maintain inter-generational family wealth actually cop a fair bit of flack socially (in times of stress, they seem to near inevitably get branded 'hoarders', and times of extreme stress they have their wealth confiscated).

Basically, I like the argument and the value structure it comes from - but there are other views of the situation that are reasonable and deserve mention.

EDIT Fun fact, apparently $7 million gets you very close to the top 1% by wealth [1]. So technically, the sort of people who want "the 1%" to do more have people like Grace in their sights. We all know they don't want that, but it shows the normal attitude to wealth and savings imo.

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/05061...
I can't speak for Gitlab, but offering free Bitbucket should easily pay for itself as introduction to the Atlassian ecosystem.

Our experience went like this: We got Bitbucket for out project for the good free private repos (and a few other reasons). When it came to choosing a ticket system, being on Bitbucket made choosing Jira a no-brainer (one of the best ticket systems, good integration with Bitbucket, familiar interface). Then we needed a better wiki for internal documentation, so we naturally went with Confluence.

So getting free Bitbucket heavily influenced our decision to buy two other products from the same company, and we are about to buy into their CI system (Bitbucket Pipelines, not the other one). We don't regret any of those choices, but they might have looked different if we were on Github.
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> If people largely choose not to, that probably implies they don't think those papers are very good

Another way to interpret that is that people read the Sun and the Mail for reasons entirely unrelated to Brexit, such as celebrity gossip (The Economist and FT are pretty lacking in those areas). However, perhaps the constant drip feed of anti-EU/Anti-immigration stories in there have given them a certain impression of the EU, alongside their daily non-political entertainment.

Perhaps people would care to Google why the current UK foreign secretary was sacked by The Times, or the 'Bendy Bannanas' debacle?