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Well, you may love to forget, but a lot of us don't.

We didn't forget that our community was called a cancer (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_...)

We didn't forget that microsoft is one of the biggest pattent troll in the world (http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=... or http://www.asymco.com/2011/05/27/microsoft-has-received-five...).

We didn't forget than they litterally corrupted officials to capture markets (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrawrage/2013/03/20/micro... and https://www.tomshardware.fr/articles/pots-de-vin-microsoft,1...)

We didn't forget monopolistic practices (https://www.networkworld.com/article/2221165/microsoft-subne... or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor...)

We didn't forget the lies (http://practical-tech.com/operating-system/2096/) and sabotage (http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009051922175320).

We didn't forget they aided dictators (https://www.salon.com/2011/09/06/wikileaks_microsoft_tunisia) or destroyed products you bought remotly (http://sebsauvage.net/rhaa/?2010/01/06/13/21/41-microsoft-pe...).

We didn't forget they force updated Win10 and all the integrated ads and spywares, after a terrible Win8 while everybody was happy with win 7.

We didn't forget that microsoft killed rare, nokia, skype and that currently outlook is becomming less and less usable everyday.

So yeah, VSCode, Excel, TypeScript, the Xbox and C# are good products. So what ?

Unless you suddently fire everybody from MS, change their raison de vivre, and reboot them, they are still Microsoft.

Attitude like yours is why crooked politicians get reelected. Why big companies can mess up with consummers and get away with it.

People say that you can't change the world. That you can't do anything about what's wrong. They feel helpless.

I'd start with stopping this habit of giving a free pass to all the entities with a disrespectful background just because they got better on some points. Or because they have a better PR.

Because they do. Half of the links I had on them were cleaned off. They are green washing them, cm by cm. Until all that remains is that they were the good guys.
> Indeed the most extraordinary story of the last ten years is how Google, Oracle, Redhat, Microsoft and Facebook have funded open-source software to tune of billions.

Definitely not the most extraordinary story over the last decade.

And trumped by IBM's famous first $1b spend on 'Linux' just shy of twenty years ago, and their subsequent announcement that they'd recouped that money within a year.

Coincidentally this speaks to your claim:

> This is likely the greatest act of charity the planet has ever known.

These guys aren't in it for the charity. There's doubtless plenty of positive PR spin from contributing to free software -- but don't mistake pragmatism or happenstance for altruism.
Yes I have been to Barcelona, but I think you misunderstood my point. The article is about a public space known as a regular gathering spot, not a one-off concert or party. That regularity is what makes it similar to a venue.
Those were the rules of the game back in those days, languages were tied to OS vendors.

UNIX and C only became widespread, because contrary to IBM, DEC, Wang, and many others, AT&T was forbidden to sell UNIX and they started offering it alongside source code for a symbolic price of $100, which was like being free given the prices of other systems.

In any case, that doesn't make C technically better than the alternatives outside AT&T walls, it was just cheaper to get hold of.
They were profitable in 2008, but by 2016 they were running at a loss.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/github-is...

I'm guessing it was from corporate mismanagement, overbalooned salaries for initial employees, and probably hiring too quickly to meet demand.
> Q: Is GARGLE SUMMER OF COD considered an internship, a job, or any form of employment?

> A: No. You're fucking getting paid in fish, for fuck's sake.

Thank you for the hilarious FAQ.

(read on)
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I wonder what will happen to Atom, considering that Microsoft makes VS Code..?
If you are on Windows, the equivalent is smartermail. For a fee it also supports ActiveSync, which simplifies client configuration and gives pseudo-push.
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Github don't control git --

> Torvalds turned over maintenance on 26 July 2005 to Junio Hamano, a major contributor to the project.[25] Hamano was responsible for the 1.0 release on 21 December 2005, and remains the project's maintainer.[26]

I'm guessing Torvalds still has a lot of control if push came to shove, so we can assume git is executively controlled by Torvalds and Hamano.
Yes, that’s great but doesn’t excuse their surveillance tech and recent consumer hostile behaviors as described over these threads.
Amazing that glasses was invented almost thousand years ago, and today it is still that overly expensive item.

I only need glasses since the last year or so and I have been amazed by how monopolistic and bad this whole industry is.

The prescriptions are fairly standard, but still, making a pair of glasses cost more or less 200$ and require a 1:1 appointment. The price of the lens mounts is just ridiculous for a piece of metal.

Even looking at an alternative like Warby Parker, the price is still about the same for something, that let's be honest must not cost more than 20$ to make!

I since then bought 4 pair of glasses directly on Amazon from a Chinese vendor for 10$ (I have a small standard prescription) and they do a perfect job. I can barely tell the difference from my Warby Parker ones.

It's crazy to me that cheap glasses are still that difficult to get.
Atlassian has a lot of people working hard on Bitbucket. They shipped pipelines, deployments, code aware search, new UI, git lfs, embedded Trello and a lot more while improving uptime and performance, getting soc2 type 2 certified and a massive amount of other stuff.
You didn't get to make that choices. It was forced on you.
This article makes the case for government intervention [0]. The central thesis is that, had Microsoft not been sued for antitrust in the 90s and wary of yet another lawsuit, they would have killed Google in its infancy. Apparently anonymous sources in both companies confirmed this would have been a distinct possibility.

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/magazine/the-case-against...
EVERY single statement that contains "EVERY single" are false. Including this one.

Besides, what kind of argument is that ? Some people do bad things, so it's ok to do it ? I know 5 years old that don't use this anymore.
Regular users use a browser extension like ublock or Adblock to block ads. Not improving DNS security for the sake of a few users obscure Adblock mechanism would be pretty silly.
I've heard worse than that about her...

"Didn't treat" extended to telling parents of mentally handicapped children to stop bothering. A physician at a charity in Kolkata told me: "We'd persuade the parents to include the children in daily life, speak to them, give them sensory input, then Mother Teresa's crew would come and tell the parents to just stop bothering, to just feed them and otherwise leave them in a corner, and when the parents did that, the children would return to vegetating."
Thank you, that's very interesting. The spread seems to be so much larger than in Europe.
Yes, a bit like the German equivalent körner
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> The MariaDB story is a bit of a fuck you though - cries about how oracle will close mysql (which hasn’t happened) but then adopts a bullshit license for its own software.

What?

There was strong precedent for fearing what may happen with MySQL. Knowledge of what happened to Hudson, OES, OpenOffice, Solaris ... this would concern the stewards of any bit of software that got swallowed up by Oracle.

(Edit: Also I recall some worrying stories coming out from Monty and other key developers.)

What's this 'bullshit licence' that MariaDB has? I thought the source was (L)GPL all the way down?
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Are you referring to the issue where the crappily written driver had a keylogger to detect keyboard volume keys, etc, or something else?

If it's the first, that's not exactly Microsoft's fault, in the same way it's not exactly Mocrosoft's fault that if you buy a Dell it might come with McAfee preinstalled.

Although, it could be argued that if the driver was verified, perhaps they should extend their verified driver program to cover that instead of just crash protection. Then again, since the arguments here are centered around not trusting Microsoft with your source code, I can see why they may not require that...
> employer claiming ownership of projects you do in your spare time

This sounds quite insane - especially if you contribute to any of the open source projects. Any cases you could quote?
Evil are the companies that pollute rivers, sponsor wars, have work conditions on borderline slavery, agree to work with dictatorship governments....
I think that things like breaking your arm are essential to the experience of growing up.

I broke my arm by swinging on a wet tree branch when I was about 10 years old. It was a very crude, but effective way for me to learn that there are consequences to my actions. Obviously it's not the only time I learned this, and it wasn't like I didn't realise that my actions have consequences before that, but these things reinforce that learning.

I think that learning to battle through physical pain and unpleasantness is essential to learning how to battle through mental pain. I've been in a lot of situations when hunting, hiking, sailing, etc. where it gets hard and it stops being fun. You're cold, wet, hungry, and tired, and it's getting dark. But you have to keep going, because you are responsible for your own shit. You can't just give up in the middle of a hike, you can't just give up when your boat is a couple of km from the shore and you're battling a headwind. There's a certain mental fortitude that you can only build with physical adversity.
Great news ! Maybe now people will understand why github was the wrong was to do things.

Using a designed to be decentralized development tool and flocking all in one place, centralizing free software development on proprietary centralized platform is the epitome of not doing things the way they should.

Hopefully people will catch the difference between opensource which microsoft is surfing on in a PR effort to regain prestige and free software which is a nemesis of microsoft.

Now let's see projects scramble to find another centralized place to migrate to in order to keep doing things wrong, and see which ones do not care enough to even do this.
You've gotten a lot of responses but let me throw one more idea at you: bad or mediocre code bases. Or old codebases that have the scars of years of tweaks, fixes, and hacks. Thats where I think static types shine the most.

Comparing my Python and Java experience, jumping into the middle of a codebase and correctly untangling a few particularly problematic spots or reworking and refactoring packages without introducing errors is dramatically easier with static typing.

It's feels like the difference between untangling actual wet noodles vs solving a sliding block puzzle. It's just more mechanical.

Even BEFORE running tests there is a lot of confidence that you haven't overlooked something. Hell, you can't catch typos in python without 100% code coverage. The sanity bar is just that much higher before you even get to unit tests.
It's a terrible idea either way. People usually vote for local judges knowing only the candidate's occupation (since it's indicated below their name). Doing research on candidates is hard work, especially local ones you can't find on YouTube, and few will consider leaving a choice blank if they don't know who to pick.

Supreme Court justices are appointed to lifetime positions specifically to give them the freedom to ignore politics and use their literal best judgment (if they can make it through congressional approval). What kind of supreme judge gets subjected to judgment every few years?
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> among the EU's criticisms of Microsoft were some of the documented abuses of some of its notable customers like IBM and Intel

Scanning that, I don't see any mention that this was in any way due to corporate espionage, or weaponizing the customer relationship -- could you point me directly to that part?
I have always hated the Automator experience. I'm never sure about the syntax ... it looks like English, but never what I can come up with. Most apps that I use don't publish their dictionaries.
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They have options to tweak soo many other aspects of TRR/DOH, why can’t they add an option to support /etc/hosts?
I think if Microsoft are even slightly shown to have used this to spy on its competitors, it'll be the end of the company as we know it, and people will go to jail.
It took them about 20 years to do so also.
Sure, that's fine. I'm just responding to "... something nobody has asked for," and below it, "No, [you didn't want the thing you say you want], you wanted [other thing]."

Not everyone wants the thing I want. But that's different from nobody wanting it.

(However, a system-wide DNS resolver using DNS-over-HTTPS is definitely a thing I want! I've been considering writing an NSS module in Rust for it, as a way to play with writing a loadable module with tokio, to see if that even works.)
I consider this a huge waste of money on Microsoft's part.

Why did they create and then shutter codeplex in the first place? Why can't we have multiple competing platforms (Google Code, Github, Codeplex, Sourceforge, bitbucket, etc.)?

If I were Microsoft I'd rather invest a smaller amount of money (it surely is much cheaper than acquiring Github!) into making Codeplex the best platform.

And then I'd just do a traditional way of forcing people a bit: Why did Microsoft put their software on Github, a competitor? Why not force people a little bit into your ecosystem? Why give up the fight for winner takes it all every single time??? If I were Microsoft I were a bit more proud to use Codeplex, Windows phones, Windows instead of Mac, etc...

Why shutter MSN messenger for Skype? Why making apps for iphone first before Windows phone? Why does Microsoft not simply fund their projects (Windows Mobile had a head start and was abandoned, tablet PCs were already there with XP) and try to compete and create an ecosystem full of solutions working together?

Of course it's kind of nice to see Microsoft embracing github and being more open etc. But where's the fight? Why give up all the time?

Why letting codeplex die when all we need is a bit competititon.
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He was ceo and co-founder, and harassed a female employee to the point that she quit. His wife also harassed the employee.

Forget he said she said - the company admitted the employees claims were true after investigating the situation, having previously (when he was in control) publicly refuted them.
I got to see the Babbage Difference Engine No.2 at the Computer History Museum before he brought it north to be in his office lobby or whatever, so I have a very warm spot in my heart for this dude.

The patent trolling sucks, didn't realize that was him...

But honestly and sincerely the man is a true mad other-level genius:

"Elephants Have Fabulous Tits" (I'm not even gonna link it. It's real. It will challenge you. ;-P Search for that at yer own risk kids...)
That’s a good point, definitely a factor.
> I imagine motivated in part by the fact that if you have to acquire non-implied consent, so you might as well force that friction point to fully onboard a user, and part as well by fears as to how targeted advertising will continue to provide a revenue source given the new requirements.

Again, please can you point to the actual part of GDPR that forces people to gain consent before targetting ads?

Here's the UK regulator, the Information Commissioner, saying that legitimate interests (one of the lawful reasons for processing data) might be ok for marketing.

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-da...

> As a meta comment, I notice you are _very often_ present defending GDPR in threads where I've stayed quiet in the past; to the point that as someone who almost never notices names on this site, I've noticed yours before this interaction. Can I be curious about why you advocate this so comprehensively

It's because almost all of the people posting against the GDPR will post things that just aren't in GDPR. They haven't read any of the regulation; they believe things that are not true and they spread those incorrect statements. Some of this is unintentional - they've read a bad blog and they beleive it. Some of it is intentional - fuck the EU.

I don't mind people being against GDPR if they've read it and are against things it's actually doing.
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I really would love to see how XCode is able to display anything for binary Objective-C libraries, beyond pure Assembly.

If you want pure Assembly in binary libraries in C++ and C#, Visual Studio can also display them, one just needs to select the right options.
My employer, with +6,000 employees, is not moving away from GitHub.

We have an enterprise instance and depend on a lot of integrations.
It is a shame though, because Sublime Text was/Is a great editor, but it's really tough to out compete a dedicated team of paid developers.
- It gives then 'streetcred' in the OSS communities using GitHub. This goodwill is valuable.

- It allows them to peek into any private repo on GH right from their own office. All major players host code there, likely a lot of them in private repos too. Microsoft has a large trackrecord of 'me too' products (i.e. the ones released after the original from another company is successful) and corporate espionage isn't something that's just happening in the movies. This too could make things very profitable

- Developer relations across private repos could increase the value of linkedin profiles which in turn could make that more valuable.

But that's about what I could come up with. I seriously don't understand why one would spent $2B on github if it hosts your OSS stuff. Also, to make sure VSTS become more successful with an integration doesn't make sense to me: GH isn't the most profitable service out there and was losing money. Hell it might even go belly up sooner or later and VSTS would look to be a better alternative.
> "First, star this repo as a vote to keep GitHub independent."

Buddy, GitHub is not independent. Never was. People who invested, want their return of... investment.
Some old schoolers did not have any issue using Windows and related Microsoft tech.
I wish I could agree with you're more nuanced viewpoint, but seeing a whole industry making insane amounts of money based on abusive and deceptive business models suggests that there truely is a broader issue. Whether the underlying attitude is best describe by "move fast, break things" is debatable but we can't easily dismiss the idea.
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Just depends on the product. Microsoft decided to create Teams in house instead of acquiring slack.
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Uninformed post of the year, with a side order of whataboutism, congrats. Who said i trust G or FB?
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So Facebook gets to make the rules? The law changes whenever we feel like it should, that's how democracy works.

You say why should the laws change and why shouldn't we individually decide whether or not to play ball?

For one thing, Facebook creates profiles of people who don't have accounts, but for another, and more importantly:

Why should companies not be able to dump toxins in rivers? It's up to us whether we want to buy from that company and contribute to pollution -- or we could start up an EPA... which we did. Same deal with Facebook, sort of. Society can make whatever rules it wants, the only natural law is chaos, and of it we make order.
I'm currently attending University and I'd say for the majority of Universities focusing on education the ship has long sailed. The alternative to the "hookup" scene these days, which most people view as the "traditional" college experience you refer to has been morphed into job seeking. Most students do not go to class to learn, but rather to receive accreditation, concerned only with how future employers will view their GPA or classes taken

There are a small or large number of people seeking to further their own knowledge (depending on which specific university you are attending, it seems), however most university curriculum could be reduced to a year or two of self study. Most of the focus is on the schools perceived performance (as measured by testing, GPA, attendance, etc) My particular University stops giving programming projects after 2nd year for students following the Software Engineering course meaning many students have not programmed in 2 years when they graduate, although from what I hear this is not normal for all schools in my area, however I suspect it is because many students could not handle programming above a 101 level.

This has led to an increase reliance of student groups: those that have a thirst for learning great student groups focusing on self study whether for improving class performance or just learning for the sake of learning. However often times if a group gets too successful the college they are a part of entices them with offers of making their group into an official class for school credit, which transfers control to a professor, again creating the problem where performance is measured by tests, and the cycle repeats when a new wave of students join the college.
> Google wanted to emphasize so they put it on the last line

That's an odd way to emphasize something. I don't remember any time that I wanted to emphasize something so I put it in the last line of the document.
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I used to be able to execute programs through the start menu. Can't do that anymore.

I used to go:

press start btn --> type "utor" --> press enter --> uTorrent.exe executes.

Why would they remove such a useful feature?
Best of all, feel entitled to voice the opinion about what developers should focus on, being angry when they don't, without paying anything back.
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There is also Gitbucket - https://gitbucket.github.io/gitbucket-news/gitbucket/2018/05...

Now with LFS, code review, etc features. Built on the JVM - blazing performance.
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That's fine, although IMO anyone that doesn't like Microsoft's decisions over the past few years is living in the past.

Meanwhile Google is GitLab's largest investor, and I've been burned more times to count. Google Wave? Google Wave?
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But what would be the alternative then? I mean, GH serves as the de facto opensource social network, it allows private and public collaboration and integrates with many tools creating a web of transparency and free flow of knowledge.

How do we make a similar or comparable service that is decentralized yet transparent and instantly accesible to millions of people across the globe?
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Never missed them.

Total Commander for example.
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