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Great idea, and an amazing product! But is this really classified as a productivity tool? ... Well maybe a tool can be productive, without being a business tool ...
I should have been more explicit about my point: GDPR compliance is easy and inexpensive for restrained good companies that care about privacy, troublesome and expensive only for companies that behave inappropriately, and an existential threat only for true scum.

You are simply being forced to behave like you should have been behaving from the beginning of your online presence.
> I would be extremely surprised if the EU goes through all this tome, effort, and money just to let corporations continue with business as usual

trust me, you didn't see what the eu already gone through, just to keep existing.
"IP address" does not appear in that text.
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My personal hack to get around pre/post completion downers is to have a clear idea of what to do after the project completion.

This can be support for the completed one, another project, vacations, or anything really, as long as it is clearly visualizable and tacit. If there are multiple good options and I cannot pick one of them, I try to clamp them to a maximum of 3. All of them have to be clear and concise.

It is a somewhat simple system, but I have found this to work time and time again, mostly because I came to realize that the core of these downers could be attributed to post completion void. Before this approach, I would find myself delaying completion in order to not face the unknowns of what would happen after getting though the goal line. This led to unneeded anticipation worries and needless time wasting.

On the other hand, having these delimited post project goals took the situation on its head. Instead of delaying completion, I worked even harder to get there fast and jump to the next exciting stage as fast as possible.

Thank you for the post and for sharing your experience with us!
Lawyers can say such things and I'm sure that Facebook will try to fight it, but I don't think they'll be able to do so successfully, because the GDPR is very specific about what a "legitimate interest" is.

See here for an explanation: https://www.gdpreu.org/the-regulation/key-concepts/legitimat...

PS: the EU can't wait to give fat fines to companies like Facebook and Google, due to their tax evasion schemes. It's the whole reason for why these companies haven't been able to stop GDPR, with all of their lobbying prowess. And I don't care about such motives, as an EU citizen I'm glad that GDPR exists.
Yes and I think because of that 'legitimate interest' clause companies like Facebook will be allowed to work as ususal.

I am not big Facebook fun, but I understand that they business model relays on selling targeted ads, so they have 'legitimate interest' to track their users, because otherwise they would have to go out of business - I don't think it should be possible to force someone to radically change business model because of GDPR.

The interesting part is that GDPR is something that will be enforced an the countries level, so each country might have different interpretation of that clause and I see that there will be competition among countries who will offer 'better' interpretation from business perspective.
Based on where we are in the Milankovitch cycle, should we be getting warmer or colder?

(I keep checking the comments of this article hoping that someone knowledgable can explain how this impacts the climate.)
Pioneering scientific discoveries and engineering new technologies are the only two lasting, positive impacts one can ever have in life. Anything else is either non-impactful or simply cultural changes, which are neutral to our species in the long run.

What we can do as a species and what we actually understand about the universe are the two fundamental aspects of humanity that have any significance just ten generations later. And of the two, learning something new about the universe and sharing it is far more significant of an impact. It will last longer because of the nature of science to build upon previous discoveries.
I don’t disagree with you, and I am pretty sure you’re 100% correct. I think my confusion started to stem from my in browser dictionary and googles dictionary service which both throws and “unlawful” in the definition, coupled with the self defense part... and that I hadn’t had any coffee yet it made it very hard for me to parse.
> I'd argue that being able to deal with the consequences of the results (e.g. the social consequences of ads and posts in the 2016 election, or leaking private conversations, or hitting pedestrians from today's HN front page)

The same way you can argue that the constructions and architeture also have social consequences both positive and negative but the engineers and architects are responsible only for the physical structure.
Or you must make the source code available to anyone that you distributed to if/when they ask for it.
you would have to find a market for them first. realistically private data is useless outside of a marketing platform like google or facebook. Maybe you can fill up some forms or polls for a few cents, that's it.
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Moreover, many EU companies don't need to update it either.
I do love goats milk cheese ! I think I’m going to have to make a Trader Joe’s run...

Good luck on your program!
Edge extensions use the same new standard as Firefox, it shouldn’t be that bad.
Each component should generate a random seed on construction, and use that same seed for its entire lifetime.
No it's an arbitrary example of which their are many more on the site. You're just overly obsessed with that one.
Yes, and before that it says ` If the data subject's consent is given in the context of a written declaration which also concerns other matters,` which means i can use legalese but only if it does not concern other matters in the same document? :)
No, they can't 'sue' you; they can make a complaint to their data authority who will then decide if and what to do about it. So if your site blocks EU IPs and you then violate the privacy of someone in the EU grossly enough to warrant the data authority to make a case out of it, then yes. (provided everything else also applies, e.g. the things being talked about in the rest of this thread).
This is pretty much exactly what was supposed to be the main product of a startup I worked with some three years ago. Unfortunately the founders had unrealistic ideas about funding and the work required.
> So Facebook's lawyers can say, "It's in our legitimate interest to maximise advertising revenue".

They can say it is their interest to have enough revenue to operate the site and some (how much?) profit above that. Maximizing revenue is an other angle.

Though if we accept that we live in capitalist society then maximizing profits is one of the core tenets of that.
Noone will get sued under the GDPR. That's not how it works.
I’m reminded of this tweet from Morgan Housel a few days ago: https://twitter.com/morganhousel/status/997461370584133632?s...

“Mortgage rates are rising, which pushes home prices down.

But rates are rising because the economy is growing, which pushes home prices up.

Rising home prices pushes buyers away, which lowers prices.

Lower prices will slow growth and cause rates to fall.

I hate the economy.”
net-tools is not a GNU software package, note.

* https://sourceforge.net/projects/net-tools/

* https://www.gnu.org/software/software.html
This makes private-by-design alternatives like Snips (https://snips.ai/) even more legit. When everything is processed locally, the user does not have to trust anyone/anything.
You have expanded the surface area for hackers for sure esp. if you have an automated system. If your system is manual, like a phone number, that's not immune to phishing/stolen identity attacks.
That's a powerful headline, but unless I'm being A/B tested, it has little to do with the article. Did you mean to link to "13 things to know about the GDPR"?
Facebook has been offering their data for free for a very long time. in fact that's what they re accused of. They also have export tools since long ago, like twitter IIRC.

I think their terms specifically say that your data belongs to you.
Yet they still do.
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To downvoters: I'm curious to hear your counter-arguments. Yes, as a European I have more rights related to personal data than Americans. American companies can continue playing the same old tricks on American citizens with no consequences. It's not possible to do the same to Europeans anymore.
> Downvotes in HN are not a dissenting mechanism

PG stated very early on in HN's history that downvoting to signal disagreement is reasonable [1], and that's been generally accepted as a guiding principle in the community ever since (though it's not in the guidelines, so it's a matter of individual preference).

What is in the guidelines is this: "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." [2].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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"Add a google account, enter your email"

On the bottom of that page in grey is a skip button. You do that and you've skipped over it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there's already an agreement in place between that restaurant and your company.

I agree that social trust is very high in Switzerland, but I don't know if it's that high (at least, I've never seen someone pay over here with a business card).
"Even if you are travelling in Obon or Golden Week that will absolutely guarantee that you can travel anywhere you want to go whenever you want."

On the Sunday at the end of golden week all Shinkansen from Hokkaido to Tokyo, with the exception of the first two trains, were completely sold out. That was two weeks in advance.

So being forced to take an early train I had to spend a night in Hokadate, which was actually quite nice in its own right. And on JR pass level I think the price difference between normal and green class is so low that it's definitly worth it.

In Switzerland first class is second class + 100 - 150%.

But generally it's true that a green car pass will get you a reservation even when all else is sold out.

"Some day I will absolutely travel on the Nozomi Shinkansen, no matter what it costs :-)"

Actually the cost is the same like for all other Shinkansens :-) The only thing is you can't use them with the rail pass.

That said my maximum wait for an eligable train upon spontaneously deciding I need a train ride was 30 minutes. But is was usually more in the 10 minute range.

Oh, and in order to totally shame some high level JR bureaucrat I have photographic evidence about not one, but two Shinkansens with a delay of 5 minutes.

Seppuku is probably the only option here.

:-)
> Targeted advertising has always seemed pretty dumb, to me most advertising is done by Coke and their target is every where.

Doc Searls made a good point: targeted advertising isn't advertising, it's really direct marketing (like spam and junk mail).

Coke is doing advertising, but the adtech "targeted" advertisers are just spamming you using new technology.

https://blogs.harvard.edu/doc/2018/05/12/gdpr/comment-page-1...
I wouldn't say that all programming really qualifies as engineering but if you don't think it's part of an engineering discipline, you should probably tell schools like MIT who give computer science degrees (which certainly include programming) out of their engineering schools.
And a ton of non-EU companies don't, but are doing so for future purposes. Despite territorial scope, a company without any form of business in the EU, they can't entorce this against non-EU businesses.
Eu cookie law is one prior example of this. That worked out to “business as usual” in the end, didn’t it?
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> This website ... is NOT an official EU Commission website.
We have a ton more parties and the majority are not religiously/fanatically opposed to each other. Also, they tend to shift over time, nobody battens down the hatches as the Democrats or the Republicans do. They have to be flexible to survive.

In the US one of the sides could start killing people in the street and they'd still end up in Congress...

What this means is that for many topics it's easier to reach consensus and the opposing party, now in power, is much more likely to continue a policy the general population likes.
Its almost like they didn't try, due to making so much money selling user data. And blocking EU users is a childish attempt at protest. Places that DID respect user data to begin with have not had to do this. Which makes me actually wonder what horrors are going on with data we dont know about.
Yeah, that's if you even have "ip" Was using one of Redhat's base image the other day and there was no "ip" installed, we tried all the tricks in the book searching through /proc to find the ipv4 for a new interface, and we couldn't, we could easily grab the ipv6. Ended up writing some code to grab it using python. :-/
Is an IP address PII or not? I have read multiple different interpretations today.

Is a hash of an IP address PII?
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You could say the same about all the terms & conditions links that you studiously ignored when signing up for these services...
Companies want employees to act like contracts and pay for their own learning and use their own time, but they don't want to pay contracting rates.
Maybe try this post, "Object Oriented Programming vs. Functional Programming" by Bill Gathen dated May 12, 2015 [0]

https://www.codenewbie.org/blogs/object-oriented-programming...

[0] https://twitter.com/ryanbrush/status/999982149901021184
Yeah, I guess if it were a payment processor or something like that, consent would not even be necessary - so if they're asking for consent, it's probably for something else, in which case the generic message might well be insufficient.
Anybody who lives in a rich part of a progressive country will have noticed that in 2018 all of a sudden people started to drive EVs, and that they are positioned as "aspirational" items.

Norway is currently at 37% of all new vehicles sold, San Jose is at 13% "on the road", 20% of americans are going to go electric for their next purchase (http://www.ktvu.com/news/ktvu-local-news/electric-vehicles-i...)

The market for EVs is kind of sort of there already.
Love how I got a popup asking me to sign up with a fb/ggle account, stating "To make Medium work, we log user data and share it with service providers."
Again, let's read the text.

"Natural persons may be associated with online identifiers provided by their devices, applications, tools and protocols, such as internet protocol addresses, cookie identifiers or other identifiers such as radio frequency identification tags. This may leave traces which, in particular when combined with unique identifiers and other information received by the servers, may be used to create profiles of the natural persons and identify them.

An IP address is an "identifier". However, an IP address does not identify a natural person; you know that, I know that, and even the GDPR knows that.

However, if you start building a map of IP addresses to user real names, or some other form of profile construction, then the IP addresses become personal information.
I'd argue that the GDPR is entirely about spirit.
In my experience the answer to the second question is: no. Part of the brain, which would otherwise be occupied with the details of physically driving can now supervise instead. You should try it.
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It's not really hypocrisy, so much as an expression of a value system that is essentially opportunistic and amoral.

The true morality is greed-driven - make as much money as possible, unless/until some more powerful entity stops you.

IP laws have been shaped by that morality. It has pulled them far away from their original intent, which was to reward creators.

Large corporations regularly take advantage of their size and power to make sure that they, not the creators, receive value from the work.

So if you're surprised that corporate lawyers can appear to contradict their own positions, it's possible you may not have understood what motivates corporate culture.
They can.
Same behaviour as Microsoft was punished for 15 years or so ago.

I really (at least used to) like Google but as a web developer/user who cares about competition who cares about the web ecosystem I'm starting to hope that relevant EU and US authorities will issue them a non-trivial fine for:

- intentionally working to destroy the third option on mobile phones as described above

- time and time again make their products feel slow in competing browsers

- abuse their position as the worlds most visited (?) website && ad reseller to advertise their own browser in a misleading way
Although it's only been about 800 years, Genghis Khan might form a worthy counterexample to that assertion, judging by his disproportionate impact on the human genome.
Yep. It was kind of funny watching a couple graybeards trying to figure out how keepalived was assigning addresses and how to view them. It’s a rare treat when you can help someone like that with something they might normally help you with.
"Legitimate interest" works for regular data (Article 8).

You cannot claim "legitimate interest" for sensitive data (Article 9), such as political and religious views, or sexual orientation.
Well, in case of "need enough revenue to operate" they could just add reasonable "no tracking" monthly fee.
Hi, I'm curious -- what are the underlying technologies?
It is pretty easy to setup if you know the basic of administrating a GNU/Linux or BSD machine. It is better if you also know a bit about security on those system too (at least how to configure the firewall).

When it come to the legal part, it depends.

Being a exit-node can be very tricky. In some country, you will have to register has a telecommunication provider in order not to be considered liable for whatever comes out of your relay.

Being a guard-node (the "entry" node for tor client) is usually safe but can still create some trouble. For example, the virus WannaCry was using Tor to connect to its C&C servers.
Due to this, some Tor guard node got seized by the French police because they saw WannaCry connect to the IP of those guard node and I guessed, decided that it was necessary to seize them for their investigations ...

But you can configure your node to never be chosen has a guard node and to be just a relay and not a exit node. The node will be the middle man between a guard and a exit node and that should be completely safe, unless you live in a country where technology to circumvent censorship are prohibited.
Ah yes, let's suck off one corporate giant to demonstrate how bad another one is.

Google regularly breaks their websites on browsers other than Chrome.

Amazon doesn't sell popular devices competing with their Kindle line, and doesn't make it easy to install apps using Google Play Services on their Kindle devices.
There are ads. Just above the footer - 'Ad Content by Taboola'. I am accessing it from India.

Edit: There many other ads as well not just from taboola.
I've seen plenty of EU news sites try to get away with an updated 'cookie' privacy policy popup, so we'll see what happens.
My comment wasn't necessarily about Andy, more that it's possible to be incredibly wealthy yet not have any feeling of satisfaction or achievement. Getting rich is nice (I'd assume) but I don't think many people feel many life goals are reached by having a big bank balance.
Yes. That's the No1. use case of GDPR.

EU probably won't give a big shit about a tracking cookie, because you can delete that. But if Data Controllers won't perform proper delete/anonymization, then shit will find and maximize the action potential, even if there's a rotating blade in the way.
If that happens, then everyone should be happy. Businesses who don't want to comply with the law can get out of that market and make way for others who do. Consumers have better data protections. Win win.
> "instead of fixing what it has and being standards compliant, it chooses to break away and do its own thing along with the new bugs and other issues which will surely arise."

Well, people are still free to maintain and improve those older tools and bring them up to par with newer standards, if they want to.

Others would argue it's time to start phasing out code and so-called "standards" we've had since the early 90s in spirit of refactoring various elements in the ecosystem. As with most such efforts - lots of code will be thrown away, some of it will be re-used and re-purposed. I'd argue that in the long run - it's probably a necessary intervention.
> do you have any examples?

Look around in the kitchen: Bosch, Miele, Siemens...

> Anything like Amazon, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, Uber, Airbnb, Dropbox

Mainly retail, marketing, and electronic services, not a lot of consumer electronics. Maybe it's just a misunderstanding of what a "consumer tech company" is.

Still, calling an entire country backwards--"So many places being cash-only is very much "WHAT YEAR IS IT??"--because some aspect of life there doesn't conform to your Bay-area-informed sensibilities and assumed life-style is bound to raise some hackles.
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You could probably take it a step further and say that it is in the user’s best interest to see targeted rather than generic advertising, because you can show fewer ads and make the same revenue. I don’t know if regulators will buy it though.

I for one am very interested to see how this continental experiment changes the experience of internet users in Europe. And I’m sure glad (at least in this dimension) that I’m not there. (Overall I think I’d be better off living in Europe despite the occasional law I disagree with, but that’s another story.)
So beautiful! I love the design.
At 6 sec before impact the driver for sure would assume the system will notice and brake in time. Until the driver realizes that the automated system will NOT brake its very likely too late. Automatic systems which rely on humans braking in time have no place on the street, imho. This may be different for lane assist where malfunctioning is more obvious and leaves more time for intervention. Although even in this case the latest Tesla accidents may tell a different story.
Sorry I don't follow your comment. I see the misunderstanding I left myself open to, I wasn't trying to suggest Andy hasn't achieved anything. Far from it.
And suffer the consequences, good or bad. Tame it wisely.
1. is pretty much the basic idea behind Do not track headers. Acceptance of it among websites is... low, and given the history around it its probably not legally viable to treat DNT: 0 as "I consent to tracking", since there's no clear standard what exactly it'd be consent for, and no clear way to be sure that the user has seen enough details about it. (DNT: 1 as "I do not consent" wouldn't be a problem, but why respect that if you can annoy the user with a popup and try to get consent anyways?)

But your 2 examples only cover a tiny sliver of what GDPR covers, so no, it wouldn't make sense for the regulation to be replaced by proposals like this.

Nothing stopping the tech industry to develop standardized mechanisms to communicate privacy rules though, and use them where appropriate. I haven't seen much in the way of proposals for this though, I suspect because a fair implementation of that would have the same issue the advertising industry had with DNT: don't make it to easy for users to not consent, that's bad for profits.
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Serious question: How is this compatible with new GDPR?
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