skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
ATM withdrawal is not generally free; both the ATM network and your bank can charge fees for withdrawing money. At least in Spain this is true; I think it is generally true at least lso with French banks. Withdrawing abroad is normally with fees.

EDIT: Downvotes in HN are not a dissenting mechanism; they are there to bury inappropriate/misleading/etc. comments (not that I particularly care, but it seems a proper opportunity to clarify a misconception).
That opinion seems ill-considered, to say the least.
Macron to Silicon Valley: Embrace Europe's Regulations
I don't actually see it happening, but it'd be nice if Valve just released the source code and let people compile it for themselves.

I don't think there's any "secret sauce" in the Steam in-home streaming that's actually proprietary/private. It's just a H264 video stream in one direction and controller button presses in the other, over a custom made low latency protocol.

Given Apple and Valve seemed to be working together to bring VR to the Mac recently, I'm surprised they weren't given any leeway at all.
I reminded by that quote for The Social Network. “If you invented Facebook, you would have invented Facebook”.
I agree with your first three points but the last ones are not true.

Case doesn’t have payments fees but it gets mishandled. You give away too much or a customer said I gave you 50, not 20, etc. Furthermore, unless you are a small business, cash needs to be handled and brought to a bank. That costs a lot of money. You have to pay an armed vehicle with a private security company to get to your store and drive it to the bank. You also have to have cash reserves at your store which can be stolen, etc. those are all cash “fees”.

Cash requires power to “create”. You can’t just create it by changing some bytes. They need to be replaced every 5 years or so. And with all the chemicals used to make it secure, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was worst for the environment. Unfortunately I couldn’t find any sources to confirm or deny that, so that is only my speculation.

Your other points are valid and the only advantage card payments have is that they can be analyzed (which is good if you do that but bad if someone else does it to sell you something) and that you can’t lose it (you only have to pay a small fee to get a new card if you lose it).
Yes, it's specified in Recital 50: https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-50/
> ifconfig's output is simply more readable IMO

Yes, this is key, and why ip is so terrible for the way I currently work. No doubt I'll have to get used to it, like those stupid biosdevname interfaces.

90% of my machines don't have more than 1 IP per physical interface, the rest are aliases

ifconfig outputs clear whitespace, so picking out the specific details of

- interface name

- ip address

Is far easier. I do prefer /28 to 255.255.255.240 when specifying subnets, but it does make it far harder to scan what the IP is. I suspect the people writing the utilities are the ones who are able to automate everything, as they do the same job 1000 times, with IP in, IP out, and no concern about physical devices, so rarely use the tool to read data, certainly not as a human.

You've then got the "what's the default gateway" problem

route -n

shows it nice and easy

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
0.0.0.0 172.26.32.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
172.26.32.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.240.0 U 0 0 0 eth0

ip route -n returns

ip route -n
Command "-n" is unknown, try "ip route help".

Helpful, ip route help is no help at all

It's all good having tools to manage lots of ip namespaces etc, that's great in the subset of cases you need that functionality, but for those of us that manage physical machines with physical inputs/outputs, rather than datacenter scale devices, it's a right pain.
In a lot of Europe it is free.
Yeah and it's obnoxious as hell. When I moved to Munich from the bay area, suddenly having to actively manage cash and coins on a daily basis felt like I'd stepped through a portal to a few decades ago. So many places being cash-only is very much "WHAT YEAR IS IT??"

Some Germans defend it as "well Germans just prefer their privacy" but they still sign up for loyalty card programs and they are adopting cards for payment, just very slowly for how otherwise-developed they are. This isn't really a stance borne out of principled concerns, it comes from a general skepticism/paranoia of consumer technology/innovations.

I see the same thing with how many German institutions still rely on mailing physical letters whereas the equivalent American ones switched to emails a decade+ ago. For example, the Grundschule my son will start at next year needed to tell us about an appointment. Did they use an email, perhaps one they gathered from an earlier appointment we'd had there? Of course not, they mailed a letter, a letter that didn't come until the day of the appointment, which they then berated my wife on the phone for missing.

Other examples: to create an online account for my health insurance provider, they sent me a code to confirm the account...using an actual letter for the code. Same deal for recharging an Aldi-Talk SIM, you need to have them mail a letter to your address, and then and only then may you pay (via bank transfer). And the websites I've looked at for the Grundschulen (elementary schools) look like they were made by a high schooler in 2006, whereas when I look at ones for school districts for my nephews and nieces in the states, they actually appear reasonably modern. Or when I got photos from people in my son's kindergarten, only one person did sending them over a photo/file-sharing service, the others were a flash drive, a CD, many emails with one or more photos attached, and also someone just handing me their whole camera.

tl;dr Germany is surprisingly backwards when it comes to consumer technology
guarding the cashbox isn't so bad because they have to do the same for the merchandise.
In India, trains being right on time is considered a rare occurrence.
Usually trains are late 5-30 minutes and sometimes even hours.
Nokia 8, Nokia 6, probably all of the Nokia phones.

I use the Nokia 8. Works great.
Whither Algorithmic Accountability?
"Cash does not require power, so it is somehow environment friendly"
This is not true.
Notes last ~15months in average and use cotton and linen > this is bad for the environment because creating those products requires heavy use of water, pesticides and fertilizers.
And coins are _super_ bad for the environment:
Extracting metals is not only environmentally taxing, it's also energy-intensive. Think about the mining, milling, and smelting processes.
But the converse is not true; when europeans go to Germany they can't pay with cards that are normally accepted elsewhere. That is a major nuisance.
Wow, when trying to access this from the EU, I'm blocked by this huge pop-up telling me to either accept their tracking or fuck off. The cookie policy makes no mention on how to access the site without clicking "I accept", it just directs you to optout.aboutads.info.

https://i.imgur.com/dK73MUi.png

Is this really GDPR compliant?
Or Bruce Sterling statement in 2004: "I'll believe in people settling Mars at about the same time I see people setting the Gobi Desert. The Gobi Desert is about a thousand times as hospitable as Mars and five hundred times cheaper and easier to reach. Nobody ever writes "Gobi Desert Opera" because, well, it's just kind of plonkingly obvious that there's no good reason to go there and live. It's ugly, it's inhospitable and there's no way to make it pay. Mars is just the same, really. We just romanticize it because it's so hard to reach."
"Cash requires power to “create”. You can’t just create it by changing some bytes."

Compared to the power utilization of some crypto currencies I'd argue that this is negligible.
I don't think that's true; they can offer a paid version or a free version, but they can't offer a version "paid with tracking", even if there's an alternative.
What's the best way to learn these things?
As far as I know ATM withdrawals are free within Europe (if you're a customer of another European bank).
Cash also keeps the power to pay for something in your hands instead of the banks.
May be he is in this thread now!
It also seems to be fear of losing money. Most of my family use mostly cash, because as they say they don't trust shops to keep their card info secure and fear that "some Russians will steal their money". Payback, however, cannot be abused to steal your money, so even my tech adverse grandma had one when she was still alive because "not having one is like leaving money on the street".
The man page is good.

`ip` takes a --oneline arg to make it more parseable.
Facebook used to have a feature where when you wrote a comment to a news article, it would give you suggestions of 3 "suggested" response links that you could post in response.

99% of the time when I started writing a response to a news story I knew to be false, the top recommended link was a Snopes article debunking the story. I could just click on that, and be done with it.

So they already had an engineering fix for this problem, and it worked GREAT.

Why did they take it out? Probably because the metrics showed that stuff like this killed conversations, and the virality of people reposting stories. Nobody is going to Share a news post when one of the top comments is a big Snopes "FALSE" preview.

Some engagement metrics went down and they took it away.
Wow, so there really is a black-hearted creature...
> So here is a guy who grows up dreaming about robots.

> He goes to GoogleX with essentially carte blank to make his dreams finally come true. The guy goes out and buys up every cool robotics startup out there, spends billions and surrounds himself with some of the best talent on planet.

Sounds pretty fortunate to me. He got his dream to work with robots. Just because he's more famous for a mobile OS that is on more that 50% of all computing devices [0] doesn't stop the fact that he's still had more opportunity than all the rest of us to work on robotics.

[0]: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/570a5ddfc2ea5138c555f...
Wait so TeamViewer, Remote Desktop etc. are all banned in the Apple world because I can use them to buy things from other stores?
It's not like you need to mine new metals every time you mint new coins. Old ones can be recycled.
Having a domestic payment scheme isn't an issue regarding card adoption. I'd even argue that offering a cheap domestic payment scheme is fundamental to adoption on the merchant side. See the situation in France for instance.

All EC cards issued by German banks are co-branded, it used to be only Maestro, nowadays mostly V-pay. They do work fine abroad. (V-pay a bit less so than Maestro, but that's not a bug, that's a feature, skimming is a big issue in big German cities, that's why a lot of banks switched to V-pay)
wow, really sad, always hoped I'd get to see him and the yogscast replay magicka like they did 7 years ago.. rip.
Yes, but it allows access to the store - directly contradicting rafadc's theory.
>> German banks seem to use their own system called EC card which is not usable anywhere else in the world.

Thats simply not true. Its at least usable in the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain and the Czech republic. These are at least the locations I've travelled to recently and used a Card like that. The only problem I had with it were obnoxiuos fees.
Obviously you don't stay everyday in a line for hours waiting for Germans to count their coins back and forth.
It’s one if the worst I have seen. There is no way not to accept this. I can’t see how this is permitted.
> the real problem was that nobody UNDERSTOOD what GDPR meant (including the legislators

There we have to disagree. It's not like this is something new and untried.

GDPR is a development from long-standing, and now very well understood, Data Protection. The legislation seems mainly intended to modernise some of the definitions and scope (eg adding biometrics to PII), catch some newer practices, and make very plain and explicit that it doesn't just apply to EU companies.

In 1996 and 97 in the run up to the 1998 Data Protection Directive I recall a couple of common confusions and misunderstandings. Nothing like the ridiculously poor and simply incorrect reporting we have for this.

Any large org should have been fully compliant with DPA for years. They have to add extra mechanisms for explicit opt-in or deletion and get a little less time to retrieve full data and can't charge. That doesn't seem to need a "behemoth of effort", but not to say it's necessarily entirely trivial.

In other words they survived DPA with no apparent effect, yet it's >80% of GDPR with the same definitions. No one should be iteratively fumbling toward an unclear target at all. Even reading the UK ICO's old guide to 1998 Data Protection from a few years ago gets you most of the way there including understanding personal data.
As I understand it, German obsession with privacy and cash stems largely from WW2. Information that the government had about its citizens were used to round up Jews to put them in ghettos and concentration camps.

It's a lesson that I wish the rest of the world had had as well.
It's a dangerously misleading name in aeroplanes too.
Theres even an open-source version in Java called Moonlight or so.
IANAL but after working on GDPR topics for months with a lot of reading I'd say they would work.

Selling data is still hard to argue, I'd not do that for EU citizens ("tag EU citizens to opt out from selling data").
Everything else should be possible. Using Art 6/1(a) and Art. 7 GDPR you can store most of the data from your visitor. You need to make sure they can inform them about your usage, revoke their aggreement and make you delete it. Coupling ("click EULA or else") is a little bit more difficult, but with clever UI most visitors will accept the EULA instead of opting out, no coupling needed.

I'm sure in 1y publishing systems will provide all of this out of the box.
Automation Will Make Lifelong Learning a Necessary Part of Work
Moscow subway has a train every 2 or 3 minutes most of the time, so there's no timetable anywhere visible to the passengers - you just wait for the next train. In rare occurences where trains have different destinations (about only 2 lines have those), you just look it up at the train windshield or listen to the announcement.
>While Tesla was ethnically Serbian, I'd consider him to be an American scientist since that's where he lived for most of his life, and did most of his work. Plus he was born in what is today Croatia. Honestly, though, does it really matter other than for fictional nationalistic bragging rights?

Yes. It matters if one keeps a tally of what one civilization or another did, like we do for ancient times, and the future will do for us for example.

It also matters if one wants to get an estimation which country, kind of educational system, laws, etc, produces more or less good outcomes (e.g. innovation) in this or that field.

And of course, if the person claimed he is so or that, and cherished that, we should respect them, and not rebrand them. For example there are examples of famous immigrants to US, France, and other places, in literary and other circles, that don't like to adopt their country of citizenship as their nationality. For them their culture is always their other one, and their citizenship is only a matter of residence, convenience etc.
"Supporting basic human rights" is nearly always politicized. Consider how little we hear about human rights in Saudi Arabia, undoubtedly a repressive regime, versus other countries with which the United States has unfriendly relations.

Furthermore, the idea that Chiang Kai-shek was a supporter of human rights really doesn't line up well with reality.
"You can't use an EC card to buy stuff online you have to make a bank transfer."

That's wrong. EC (Maestro) is part of the Cirrus network and works world wide for cash withdrawels. Other debit cards are aligned with the Plus network. Same thing.
Meanwhile the headlining article is "NO ONE’S READY FOR GDPR". The irony is palpable.
It's still a flawed argument. Just because Apple were the first to have a touch screen mobile device with rounded corners doesn't mean they should own that BASIC configuration preventing others from doing the same.

I've owned both early iPhone and Samsung models and seriously they look and feel very different. The whole thing is a joke, and just irrational Apple "thermonuclear" sulking and foot-stomping.

Don't forget that before the iPhone, there were a TON of competing models of regular phone on the market, often very similar. Nobody was stomping their legal foot and sulking about patent violation for how the corner of a phone was bevelled or not. So please stop apologising for Apple's ego-fuelled temper tantrums.
> German banks seem to use their own system called EC card which is not usable anywhere else in the world.

EC is the actual old name, it stands for EuroCheque which was the unified European payment method long before credit cards or even electronic payment existed. Eurocheques were accepted as cash up to a certain max value, much like TravellerCheques, except that it was just standard and pretty much everyone had access to them. Later, debit cards were added with much the same guarantee. Nobody had a use for credit cards, so they never really took hold.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocheque
Again, that depends on the bank. But there is no European legal obligation for it to be free of fees.
Apart from Nokia
It's a pity. Intel does have a compiler that works great for Xeon Phi: ISPC. Alas, it seems Intel was never serious about ISPC.
Revised Restrictions on Drone Operations Over DoD Facilities
Can someone please update this to the canonical non-amp URL:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/24/17392470/apple-rejects-va...

Apart from not supporting googles effort to control the web, the amp page loads slower than the original and has a ridiculous “cookie agreement” with a button that doesn’t work.
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No it's not. Because Payback has 30 million customers in Germany. Their whole business model is literally based around mining user data. In markets you'll see people paying with cash and then using the Payback card for the bonus points.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payback_(Bonusprogramm)

https://www.payback.net/de/ueber-payback/daten-fakten/
When the market is large enough to sustain the biggest auto conglomerate in the world (VW group) and a few competitors.

So worldwide production of vehicles is around 70million per year. VW group is making 10 million of these.

Assuming lower competition (because newer market), the worldwide market for EVs would have to be around 30-40 million vehicles per year to support a company the size of VW. EVs are currently at 1.1 million vehicles sold per year.

So the better alternative is to keep selling the cars you know how to make until it becomes unprofitable. Right now your EV market is so tiny that basically you could just research it and not even sell the cars and still be ready for when they actually constitute a big enough part of the market.
A study by Steinbeis, funded by the German Central Bank, discovered that the transportation and production costs of cash are equivalent to around a fee of 0.2%

For comparison, the German EC card system has fees of 0.125%, and most credit cards had fees of around 2-3% (VISA, MasterCard) or even in some situations up to 7% (AMEX, certain goods).

This combined with credit cards banning users and merchants for sellibg goods based on their own discretion (see the trouble the Rossmann group had selling Cuban goods in their German stores) should explain by VISA and MasterCard have to be eradicated.
South Carolina Enacts Insurance Data Security Act
I can’t even read the privacy policy without accepting the prompt.
That can work for some. Paying a mortgage and rent on the new location, along with 2 sets of taxes gets expensive real quick. Some utilities have standing charges/line rental too.
I got it later - I'm not used to the terminology, thanks for the explanation :)
I wonder what GDPR does here.
The article is unashamedly biased in favor of electronic transactions. It ignores (or I missed it) dissenting voices in Sweden[0], and quotes Ken Rogoff about buying apartments in cash (and thus avoiding tax), which doesn't sound applicable to Germany which has a precise, essentially authoritative real estate registry system (that is, if your home is not registered to you in the registry, it is not YOUR home). Some countries require you to list the transaction price/details, with proof of it is not within the norm; I don't know if that is required or not in Germany, but such a requirement will do more against property value taxation fraud than a cashless society.

It also seems to mention but downplay the part history plays here; Every german has friend or family with stories about the abuse of power in east germany (and older ones in Nazi germany as well).

It's a question of "when", not "if" centrally controlled electronic cash will be abused - precedents already exist - and the collective German memory is still too strong to ignore the implications (the way the rest of the western world evidently does ignore).

[0] http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43645676
Yes it means forreigner, but a person living far away is not a foreigner. Someone who lives in a foreign nation is at home, not foreign. Does that make sense?
Apple, pissing off game developers since 1976.
I don't think design is irrelevant to profits, but I also think tying it to Apple's position as the most profitable mobile manufacturer is weak. While Apple has competition, it is at the same time in a position where it's competition can't sell iOS phones. That gives it a substantial buffer against price pressure that none of the Android manufacturers face.

If you're agnostic to the OS, then, yes, Apple needs to convince you to buy theirs. But if you've decided on a platform - and design may certainly be part of that -, Apple has no competition, while every Android manufacturer is competing in an environment where people aren't only competing with unique devices but where they're also facing clones of clones of clones (e.g. my current Android phone is a Vernee Mix 2; Google recognises it as a Xiaomi Mix 2... there's at least half a dozen Mix 2 "clones" on the market, copying anything from just the exterior case to being near perfect copies including copying aspects of Xiaomi's UI)

So Apple has a much more sheltered position, especially as users get entrenched with large investments in apps and the overall ecosystem. Most of the Android competitors are competing in price segments Apple are uninterested in, but for most Android manufacturers at any price point has to deal with competitors selling phones that look and feel almost as theirs but costs 10% or 20% or 30% less - close enough to have near feature parity and attract the same customer segments -, which affects their margins substantially.

Couple that with Apple's logistics and manufacturing and integration and it's not surprising that Apple is so much more profitable.
In Germany (or better to say German banks) it's still common to not get any instant phone notification on card payments. In many other EU countries it's common to get at least SMS.

Actually I also distrust systems where you need to verify your card payments at the end of the month.
It seems like a missed opportunity not to have a JSON (or other explicitly machine readable format) output option for easy scripting use through jq. Every time I need to craft a grep regex to get some trivial piece of information from one of these tools, I feel there's a bug waiting to happen (and I'm usually right).