skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> No, because that website doesn’t collect personal information.

Yes it does. It a least records an email address and password to create profiles. And any features like tagging memes, marking memes as favorites, etc. could be argued to constitue personal data.

> You need user consent to send emails or do something with their personal information (i.e. nothing since you don’t hold that information).

Again, I specified a meme generator site that has at least some user specific personalization.
The EU's New Copyright Proposal Is A Complete And Utter Disaster
Short answer: Yes. Refer to all the comments here.
I could see that. I've heard the tools in that space are terrible. That related to your day job industry?

python-based version for tabular data processing & management, ecom oriented mostly (so basically op's product), myself.
tldr: the old school way is still the best. Read a real book to your kid.
Regular rice is absolutely not "naturally occurring".

Also... where else would you plant it?
Do EU laws protect you in China? I feel, partially, that going through a proxy means you are more under the discretion of the laws of the country with which the last proxy is operating under. Do you disagree? It's all very confusing
Most of the time there will be no poisoning. Most of the time they will only collect e-mail address.

The law is designed to cover pessimistic case. You can get sick because of food poisoning, you can be robbed because your identity was stolen.

I don't think my comparison was dishonest.
You are speaking as if the European Union spit out this legal document and nothing else, when in fact loads of supplementary material have been released, for consumers as well as for enterprises. Of course, the actual act must be written in formal legal language.

EDIT: Example: https://ec.europa.eu/justice/smedataprotect/index_en.htm
I'll let you in on a little secret. There are many people who will make content that's worth reading long after all the "businesses" that depend on running spyware on their users' hardware are dead. That's not to say that the verge is worth reading.
> Equivocating mishandling user data on a project that some kid in a dorm made for fun, which collects maybe an email address. With putting someone in the hospital with food poisoning is beyond a dishonest comparison.

Nobody’s saying both are treated equally under the GDPR. The law stays the same, the way it’s enforced is adapted to the case, like any juridiction. Whatever the situation, you always get a warning before being fined.
> Latinx

Ugh
I agree with you up to a point. Diligence is going to come into this as it does with Bribery where again laws in one place target crime everywhere. How diligent were Hats in picking WSP to deliver email? You don't have to have done a rectal exam of every employee, but if it was obvious to half the world what was going to happen, a prosector might be able to get a jury to conclude Hats should have known too.
> 1) A College student working on a side project with no revenue are treated the same as some massive multi-national.

I hear you, but the argument is that the data doesn't care who caused the leak. A college side project leaking an SSN does the same amount of damage as a multinational leaking an SSN, so the law is going to want them to treat them equally seriously.
There are massive vested interests saying just that. They have the ear of all the relevant public officials, because they pay for that ear. Boondoggle public works projects are a transfer of wealth from the public to those interests. We might as well say, "let's spend less on the military!" Yes that would be great, but what we have is what the system produces.

The easy way to do this better would be to pick out a firm who had done a good job on a similar project overseas, and tell them to do the same thing under the same rules with the same workers, except over here, and we'll pay a 25% premium to cover relocation expenses. Hell we could pay a 50% premium and still come out way ahead. This would never happen, but it's instructive to think about all of the different levers the system would pull to prevent it.
I meant in my spare, useless 'key B' slot, which will still be spare and useless if I take the wifi card out.

It especially rankles because they devoted two whole PCIe lanes to that damn slot, which would be better put to use unbottlenecking my highly expensive Samsung P981 NVMe drive.

The T480s does not suffer this problem.
Or saffron, which adds a subtle and addictive taste.
A quick Google search leads to this, for example: https://blog.flyingcircus.io/2018/02/05/new-default-truncate...
> Most early-stage startup use the best practice of “delete=1”

Who are you people who can’t/won’t actually delete something from your db’s?
Related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcMIeyjggbM
A timeline of when self-driving cars might be on the road
I wish people would put high speeds in terms of miles/sec or km/s, because I know what light speed is in both, and I have a vague idea of orbital/escape speeds as well.
This is why you have a Testing environment you can sandbox this kind of thing out on first ;-)

Or, as the old sawhorse goes, "every company has a Testing environment. Some companies are fortunate enough to have a separate production environment as well"
What a nice project! :)
Someone is learning about “read only Fridays” the hard way.

Can it wait until the start of the next week? Almost always.
This is definitely not good advice.
> This is the upper middle class robbing poor people. The projected fare would be $86 per ticket, about triple the cost of driving for a family of four. The people who are going to pay that are upper middle class travelers and business travelers.

Which is saving the poor money, since otherwise:

(1) The state will pay entirely out of tax money, largely funded through regressive fuel and consumption taxes, with no private component to expand capacity via freeways instead of HSR,

(2) the state will spend the same kind of public money with a partial private subsidy to expand capacity by adding (and replacing existing freeways with) tollways, which not only will taxpayers who don't take trips pay for, but those who do drive will pay more for.
>> However, until that happens, nah, thank you.

A very first-world thing to be able to say when rejecting GMOs and other things that can improve crop yields for the less fortunate citizens of the world.
I believe it's because, in general, Americans distrust government and trust corporations
That’s the old “let me frame your argument as something else and easily dismiss it” trick.

This frame has nothing to do with what I had in mind. Please let go of it completely and re-read my comment.
This thread on Reddit seems to have some cogent discussion on exceptions

https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8litn7/gdpr_for_h...
He asks "Have you had to make changes to the services you integrate with or create new technology" and your answer has spreadsheets. I bet that was unexpected.
Even if you delete it from disk and remove from memory, you may be required to remove it from offline backups too like tapes and other media.
Selective breeding performed slowly over longer time scales did at least give the breeders time to notice some kinds of severe problems. If you're breeding wheat and accidentally introduce a toxic mutation, you might notice the resulting pile of dead horses. There won't be a warning like this in every case, but it's not right to say that there's zero benefit to going slow.

That said, I don't really have an opinion on GMOs. I'm fine with you partaking first, though. :-)
It would be cool to offer more icons, or let people search for icons based on word.
It's not so easy. Someone buys a book. Transaction is recorded, and now we know total book sales.

Someone says "delete me and my purchases", so you do, and oops - total book sales are now wrong.

There's ways around it, obviously. But they are not easy. Much easier to just mark as deleted.

Another example: Threaded conversation - someone deletes their post, and oops all the replies are now orphaned.
>Sure, if you cater to users in your own country. If you cater (read: deal with data) to users from the EU, you should follow local consumer protection laws.

If I have a brick and mortar business in the US and some one from the EU decides to do business, do I have to follow EU consumer protection laws? Unless I have an physical presence in the EU why should I have to follow their regulations?

Further, why cannot the EU just allow its citizens just do business with other extra-national companies if they choose to? Meaning, if an EU citizen chooses to do business with a non-GDPR compliant website, why does the EU care?

>EU laws have always been more strict than US privacy laws: This caused unfair competition, where US companies were free to export their privacy-damaging business model overseas, while local companies were forced to respect privacy. Respecting privacy is just not very competitive/profitable at the moment.

So what? If the EU wants to stifle competition, why should the US care. They are only hurting themselves.
I think that urea reacts fairly quickly with Chlorine to form various chloramines, which, in turn, degrade to N2 and chloride.
And they still run around going "lalalala"...
I’m really getting sick of seeing IP filtering being mentioned in the context of blocking a specific nationality of person. Do people not understand a European citizen can travel? Use VPNs? Have an IP that is misreported to the wrong location?
> I’ve been reading hacker news for about a decade, and it’s getting to the point where I don’t think there are many entrepreneurs and/or technical people on here anymore.

You're not wrong at all. It first started dawning on me around 5 years ago. Almost no one knows what they're talking about. It's like watching hackers in a major motion picture. Except it's "hackers" on a major news site.
> the requirement that you can permanently delete all of your information. Most early-stage startup use the best practice of “delete=1”.

What's your system for dealing with COPPA then? You're required to have a way for permanently removing data of children.
I find it odd that people take issue with regulation, perhaps its been ingrained into the cultural consciousness of the west that regulation is always bad, but historical analysis shows that regulation has always had an overwhelmingly net positive effect for the members of a given society. You can link the stage of a country's development to how effective their government is in protecting it's constituents.
Article 37 1.a and 1.b are extremely vauge. Hiring a DPO becomes necessary once your service "requires regular and systematic monitoring of data subjects on a large scale", or processing personal info specified in article 9 "on a large scale".

However, nowhere does it actually specify what sort of scale constitutes "large". I don't see any user count threshholds or anything like that.

Also, it's possible that someone's list of authored memes is personal data. If somebody creates a lot of political memes then this could easily be covered by article 9, since political affiliation is explicitly covered there.

Additionally just saying "have a checkbox" isn't going to cut it. GDPR forbids blanket opt in or opt out schemes. You would have to build a system to track what the user has consented to and refactor all features to abide by each user's consent configuration.

I'm not saying every these tasks are hugely onerous - just that I can see the use case for blocking EU traffic to avoid having to abide by their regulations.
Not even that old, and i feel it every damned day...
'rayiner seems to have argued you in a circle here. He is the one claiming the poor aren't going to ride this train; you hardly contradict him when you argue they aren't going to use cheaper transportation either.
> That $0.55 / mile is dropping with EVs (which also help address some of the other problems you mentioned) and would crater if driverless cars become a reality in the next decade or so.

Driverless cars increase congestion, which increases cost of human travel, once the taxes needed to pay for road construction and maintenance are factored in.
Analog Devices AD9361 – when microchips are more profitable than drugs
There's unlikely to be any direct link. The Levy-walk behavior is a simple consequence of geometry interacting with the distribution of particle directions that a particle might select each time it comes off the wall.

The result turns out to be scale-invariant, and was a surprise for us, as we had expected a nice integer power-law in the scaling of the gas dynamics, and it turned out to be fractional. The upshot is that when computing gas damping in high-precision force/displacement sensors, one must resort to numerical simulation.

One consequence of this work, in concert with the groups at Trento and MIT is that the LIGO gravitational-wave detectors opened up their gaps between the detector masses and nearby "reaction masses". The easy gaps to open happened before Advanced LIGO turned on, and I believe that the more difficult/expensive gaps to open are being upgraded roughly now.

It's fun how little table-top measurements on the minutiae of force-sensing can have impacts on whether or not we observe cataclysms billions of light-years away....
There are geological reasons (stiffness of dirt I think) that a big one near the California coast isn't likely to be that significant. The next earthquake will probably be another Loma Prieta. The ground just isn't very likely to transmit the energy far from the epicenter. Also it's the Hayward fault that's likely to go next.
> Sure, one of the most valuable companies on the planet with an army of lawyers doesn't know what it's doing.

This a fallacy, not an argument. [1]

> Or maybe it's because the rules are confusing and messy and you have a different interpretation?

Please point out which rules are confusing and/or messy. Virtualy every single blog post about GDPR points out how it’s well written compared to other juridictions on the same subject. The language is clear and the website provides a Q/A section as well as concrete example for every point.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
True in general, but I don't think this one's that simple. npm made a perfectly reasonable configuration change that incidentally happened to break yarn. Hard to predict since you can't sandbox every internet service that might be unexpectedly depending on you, and arguably not really npm's problem anyway. (Much to their credit, npm jumped on the issue and contacted their CloudFlare rep to help unbreak yarn, but I don't think they're responsible to proactively anticipate things like this.)
That's slow on an interstellar scale for speed. A scarce fraction of the speed of light.
>they have to have a data protection officer

Themselves

> build a system to purge user data

SELECT * from users, memes, usermemes where userid = #####
Way too optimistic.

Businesses instantly turn the methodology into a device for exerting power.

What you are describing only exists in books and on manifestos and perhaps in 5% of the businesses.

The rest bastardise and devour the methodology to their liking.
GDPR more searched than Beyonce
Carbon Fiber 1.8 M 2.1 M 2.4 M 2.7 M 3.0 M 3.6 M Portable Ta Bar
Because nobody were interested?

Damn it, Apple have a similar thing going in OSX (or whatever their greasy marketing wants to call it this year) but when it was basically offered to the BSDs on a silver platter they didn't want it.
That's been my experience. I'm using the VSCode plugin and have for the first time ever enabled format-on-save for Python. I have yet to have any reason to see that as anything other than a positive.
Doesn't mean it's wrong. Prohibition of transgenic GMOs may be necessary to prevent widespread harm.

http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/pp2.pdf
Yes, as per what I read long ago, Larry Wall created Perl as a sort of superset of parts of awk, sed, shell and C (maybe not shell).
> And another difference is that the development of a rail line requires billions in additional public funds (and also takes years if not decades to build)

So does building the same capacity in roads. And, even moreso, so does building that plus the extra capacity required for the increased load required to handle on-demand driverless vehicles.
Also the national parties groom way too much. It is one thing to have Hillary move to an easy to win seated state in national politics. However, it appears that Obama's local efforts were all organized to get him to President asap. That left quite a mess locally.

Similarly, the Republicans where I live are always sending DC interns to us for state legislature. I guess it is an attempt to give the intern running experience. The campaigns hardly ever seem to be an actual attempt to win.

The area is full of good paying jobs. What that means is the local politicians are usually some rich person's partner. Otherwise the crop is usually public employees with an ax to grind or personal trainers/masseuses looking for a steady income.
Can you explain how they "do so".
> My proposal was implicitly based on the opposite assumption, namely, that removing obsessive editors will reduce the agenda-pushing set much more than it will the unbiased encyclopedist set.

Which is the exact opposite of what would happen. It’s trivial to get an internet brigade of trolls to push one particular agenda. It’s easy to incite the Internet outrage machine into an angry mob. And the people who do this don’t play fair; they disappear and reappear under new pseudonyms and IPs, spurn accountability, and burn identities. Making it harder for someone to build a record they can stand behind is the wrong direction.

> we clearly see many more people dedicating an extreme amount of resources, up to and including their lives, to political causes than to abstract values such as objectivity and the accuracy of the historical record

Which is why allowing these mobs to brigade against the rare person who is committed to the unbiased truth is the wrong move.

> The example that spawned this discussion certainly seems to involve a highly active editor being driven by a political agenda (do you dispute this?), and this is the case for almost all other instances I am aware of (though of course there is a selection bias here). Do you actually contend that the subject of the opening post has no agenda to push, or do you count him as a force for an unbiased and comprehensive Wikipedia because you think that his agenda is correct?

I did some research on Phillip Cross above and beyond simply reading OP, because OP is an obvious hit piece and the group of fringe political figures who have seemingly declared war on this guy seem to be vaguely aligned with Russian propaganda operations, and this guy’s edit history, from what I’ve seen, seems to be largely in the direction of removing random vandalism and Russian propaganda from Wikipedia. The only seemingly factual criticism I’ve seen is that this guy seems a little obsessive, which is a fair point if you’re worried about this guy having a well-rounded and fulfilling life, but I trust you’ll understand if I don’t think these people who are butthurt about some obsessive Wikipedia editor deleting their propaganda from Wikipedia are genuinely concerned about his well-being.
Ok thanks, I know this can be highly subjective but which do you prefer between the two (reason and cljs) and why?
From same source: "The processing must be necessary to deliver your side of the contract with this particular person."

That is - these regulations refer to the performance of a contract by the service provider. If the data isn't necessary for creating the sandwich, you're not allowed to deny use of the service based on the user not giving you the data.

GDPR was specifically written by smart lawyers and regulators to prohibit the specific kind of contract you're describing. The whole point of regulations like this (also minimum wage, regulation of arbitration agreements, etc.) is to limit the kinds of contracts people can enter into.

Specifically, they're allowed to consent to give you that data, but that's not allowed to be a condition for the use of the service.

EDIT: More specific sourcing on the way that GDPR regulates contracts, in Article 7(2): "Any part of such a declaration which constitutes an infringement of this Regulation shall not be binding."

EDIT 2: And in fact, we've gone in a circle. Again, as Recital 43 states: "Consent is presumed not to be freely given if it does not allow separate consent to be given to different personal data processing operations despite it being appropriate in the individual case, or if the performance of a contract, including the provision of a service, is dependent on the consent despite such consent not being necessary for such performance."

This is all super crystal clear, by design.
The 1906 quake (the biggest in recorded CA history) was a touch under 8.0, and it killed 3000. But the majority of the damage from it was from fires, which are a much smaller danger nowadays. Building codes are better as well. I'd be surprised if an 8.0 got into the thousands.

A 9.0 quite simply won't happen in CA, because our fault lines aren't capable of generating that magnitude.
> 1) Reduced number of services available to EU customers.

That’s not a bad thing. If services that don’t want to protect their users’ privacy can’t operate, that’s a good thing.

> 2) EU users will be trained to click "Agree" without reading, because web sites would ask them for permission very frequently, and users do not have time to read web site policies anyway.

How does this have anything to do with GDPR?
Nothing stops anyone from offering patches to multiple projects to sync development. Hell, some of the biggest changes crossing the kernel/userspace divide have just that.
I'm a Brit. I am the MD of a small IT company. I have two partners and 20 employees. We started in 2000. We turn over about £1.5Mpa. We sell our services to people and organisations. Our backups are now smaller these days (thanks to GDPR).

I understand that because you are outside the EU you might feel like a target but that is not the point of GDPR. There is no way on earth that the EU as a whole has looked on your company/project or whatever and decided to screw you.

Have a look at the first few paras of this: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX... after it says "Whereas". Does the language look a little familiar? Do the sentiments look strangely familiar in some way?

GDPR is not about destroying people's livelihoods. It is about protecting basic, fundamental rights that say 30 years ago we never knew needed to exist.

After all the knee jerk reactions have calmed down a bit, you may find that you personally have benefited in some way from EU regs. If you find that, then I suggest you fight tooth and nail for similar to be enacted at home. I'll be the first to thank you for that.
Selective breeding doesn't create fundamentally new organisms like transgenic GMOs, however -- organisms for which there is no method to predict their interactions with our one and only environment (Earth, if that wasn't clear :p).
What's the EU status?
on the up side at least it may make them as happy as clams[1] reproducing per the 1998 Ignobles[2]

[1] https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Prozac+works+on+clams+and+mus...

[2] https://www.improbable.com/ig/winners/#ig1998
With Javascript off, I didn't even notice a scrolling problem. The story was fascinating.

I can't help but think the reconstruction is pretty speculative, but the sound is convincing, and it's a cool-looking guitar.
COPA was struck down by the courts last decade.
Yeah this is basically the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "LALALALALALALALA"
>> that whatever you're doing falls under the GDPR.

Cool, except we weren't confused about that. Figuring out what data exactly and when, along with the proper processes, documentation, and interaction with all of our clients took lots of lawyer time though.