skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
That alone shouldn't be reason enough and I would say both of them behaved very unreasonably if being competitors is all there is to it. I was asking more along the lines of previous altercations or confrontations.

I do remember some post from 37 signals commenting about Joel's taking investment; not sure if it was David or someone else though.

A very thin line divides frank and honest speech and rude and arrogant statements. Most of the internet celebs sit on the fence and cross it every now and then - Linus Torvalds (Open BSD devs are a bunch of masturbating monkeys), Zed Shaw(Rails is a ghetto) etc etc.

That being said, there always is a take-away as these people are one of the most hardworking and talented people in the industry but the sad thing is it makes it difficult for people not familiar with their style to neglect the firework and just consume the good parts(not that it would matter to any of them).
I get the impression that patio11 is doing exactly what he wants to do.
You could just as easily say "wait until this is in Debian testing before going near it."
Stuxnet worm 'targeted high-value Iranian assets'
Perl? You serious? Are you developing text-based system?
How we created a custom Facebook Page and improved our branding
Decided I'd come from Baltimore, it's a reasonable excuse to visit NYC.
Great job writing an article about other people's alleged delusions and then basing it on delusions of your own.

Facebook didn't raise a Series E from Elevation Partners; that firm purchased secondary shares.

Seriously, you can't ride in on a high horse of fact and reality and then get the basic tenets of your argument so wrong.
Well that's fair enough, it might be the way I browse pages but I didn't notice the CV link which is probably why I think it's just a placeholder :)
Add a 3d scanner for personal sizing, and you could have a very nice custom "clothing" store...with a two week delivery delay.
Let's hope DHH, Jason Fried, Jason Calacanis, Michael Arrington and Tim Ferris don't all read this article and think "Damn, he's right, I need to be more self-aggrandising!"
Or possibly, he enjoys what he does, enjoys being his own boss, likes the challenges that the types of software he works on present, and values those things higher than going and shaving seconds off for some airline. If he is, his genius is more about finding a way of being happy than software, marketing, or anything else.

I know HN tends to be all about the money at times, but seriously, it's not everything.
Many people have assumed that because they think I'm smart that I am also a millionaire. If only that were true.

Seriously, I don't understand the expectation that there's a correlation between genius and riches.
What surprised me is how this one evil guy took the effort to hack his server. Some strange motive is in place. Usually they scan ip addresses and ports and attack servers randomly.
A History of Byte Ordering (1980)
First of all, this type of thing, preventing users from just changing around URLs, shouldn't need to be taught. It is pretty common sense. When you make something like this, if you don't wonder: "Gee, what would happen if somebody changed photo_id=123&delete=true to photo_id=124&delete=true, would it delete photo 124?" then I'd have to say you aren't a very curious individual. That likely doesn't bode well for your programming prowess.

Validating user input is probably the first thing you learn about web application programming, which is frequently taught at universities, or in books titled "web application programming" which you should at least skim if you're going to start a project like this. Don't blame college for this. Just because it is something that isn't focused on in college (it is, though), and they went to college, does not mean it was college's fault. Would it be fair to blame college for any other mistakes they made, just as long as college did not "focus" on it? No. Some things are common sense.

Most likely, the culprit was time constraints, which is far more excusable.
Ask HN: Is anyone in Sweden hiring US citizens (willing to relocate)?
Swedish HNers: I'd very much like to find a job in Sweden and experience the country. I have both a technical and business background (finishing my MBA soon) so I'm interested in product management or business analyst type roles. Learning some RoR currently, but don’t have the skills to be a full-time dev.

I’m a US citizen and fluent in English. Unfortunately I do not speak Swedish, but would love to learn via classes/immersion.

If anyone is hiring, or could point me to some resources where I could find appropriate jobs, I would very much appreciate it!
Tack!
He makes some good points. A guy like Patrick could easily be pulling in $200-300K a year contracting with large companies. Since he is smart and knows how to hire people, he could start his own firm and break into the 7 figures annual salary leagues.

Money isn't everything, but with those type of business skills, spending a lot of time commenting on HN is most likely a waste of your considerable expertise.
Personally, I prefer California to Colorado.

The outdoors stuff really is quite a draw in California. I have traveled extensively and I don't believe anywhere else in the world compares to the landscape diversity of California. In the Bay Area alone, you have beautiful (but cold) beaches, a weird, eccentrically beautiful urban area, a giant bay, 3 hours to world-class mountains and skiing, 1-2 hours to other beaches, a mystical hilly farm-beach-fog-redwood wonderland (Marin County) that I have not seen anywhere else, etc. It's also very diverse and you can meet any sort of person from any background, and eat any sort of food. I would say for those factors, it definitely is "all it seems to be."

I have numerous friends from Canada, the Netherlands, Japan, France, the UK, Germany, Norway, Croatia, Denmark and Mexico who now live in Silicon Valley or SF and vow to never live anywhere else again.

On the downside, California has horrible traffic, high housing costs, high school education is terrible, the state is as good as bankrupt, there are immigration issues, weird old-standing racial segregation issues (all the black people live in Oakland), problems with violence, in LA there is pollution, if you are ever stuck in the out-state areas, there are a lot of scary hillbilly people with monster trucks and guns, etc.

Some people are truly affected by politics and state budgets and health care and that sort of stuff, and if you are one of those people it might be a headache. I do know people who packed up and moved to Germany, or wherever. But I've been to Germany and I would pick California, even with all it's problems.

It's definitely worth visiting for a year or two if you have the opportunity. If the chaos proves too much to deal with you can always move back to Sweden.
By what finish line are you judging him? He is well respected by his peers, he writes insightfully on difficult topics. he is independent and is spending his time as he chooses. And he is not done yet.
The Real Lesson of AngelGate
Please. No attack is perfectly stealth.

Keep in mind I've played both sides of this game. People who know how attacks work in the wild can usually spot things that might not raise the ire of average sysadmins.
The problem is that almost no-one today is offering the posto fisso. None of my employees has a contract like that, for example.

Two sides of a medal:

-people with a degree need to do 1 or 2 unpaid stages to get to a contract position. After that there's still a lot of uncertainity about if your job will last or what, and you might be paid not enough to go outside your parent's house until 30 or so.

-i really have trouble finding someone with a clue to hire. either they want too much (like 2K/month right out of school) or they don't know shit about the job, don't want to work hard and generally have no clue ("oh you mean i'm supposed to solve problem and you won't just tell me what to do?").

It drives me mad, we're full of young without an idea of what it takes to survive in life - they take everything for granted and expect to land a good job without doing nothing. But they only find people that wants to exploit them as bad as they want to exploit employers - this isn't functional at all.

that's why we have A LOT of small businesses in Italy and that's why I didn't even bother looking for a job after getting my undergraduate degree, I just opened my firm (consulting web agency), went out and sold a couple of websites.
Apparently it wasn't obvious from the "New York smells" point that it was a joke. So let me spell it out: It was a joke (even if it's actually, technically true. Many parts of New York really do smell from all that trash on the street!).
While I agree with the praises directed towards Patrick, I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about his (or anyone else's) motivations. If Patrick wanted to, he could walk any of the paths mentioned in the OP.

We just don't know that Patrick isn't exactly where he wants to be in the long run. Maybe he doesn't want the things that come along with $100k, $200k, $1MM per year.

If it is his aspiration to make that kind of money, I wouldn't bet against him having a plan. Patrick's transparency about his work might give the illusion that we know what he wants in life. We don't.
The greater tragedy, perhaps, is this game we play where we tell the world how patio11, or Zuckerberg, or Jobs or whoever should do their stuff instead of improving what we do ourselves.
Yes. Though clones don't have to be bad. Incremental evolution in gaming is fine.
also dpixel and italian angels for grow
I Know About Old Things
> If they break even for the rest of the existence of the business, they're still doing pretty damn well IMO.

Presumably Facebook's investors are hoping for more than to merely "break even".
Considering their success, how do they misunderstand the basics of business?
Having senses of humor, they are clearly JOKING with these lines.

Warning: Prolonged exposure to HN comment sections may blunt your sense of humor, too.
I spent a month in Vienna, Austria.

The price you pay for that sort of quality of life is that it is also perhaps the most boring place on earth next to Zurich or the other Swiss cities listed in that particular top 10.
TMTC 33 - Corey Haines Interview
"Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them, not what other people think they should be willing to pay for them."

I agree with this, but there is a difference between the market being willing to pay $26 billion for a company, and minority investors being willing to pay $26 billion/0.03. Only the former establishes the actual* value.
> The hack used well-known security flaws in JavaScript

[citation needed]
Is This HP's Upcoming Slate Tablet?
Good advice, thanks you two!
That's true, if you want to buy anything from them, be prepared to spend a lot more time than needed. The store I sometimes go to is organized as basically one long aisle spanning two floors. Contrast with Home Depot or any supermarket, where you have several parallel aisles. So yes, the store is not optimized to make find what you want quickly -- I guess they want to make buying from them an "experience".

To their credit, they do give away those little maps of the store -- don't remember if they include the shortcuts on them. Oh, and the smoked salmon is good too.
Yeah, those things plus the Delicious extension keep me on Firefox.

Also, Chrome's "restore open tabs after a crash" feature is flaky. I use a lot of Chrome's "create application shortcut" feature, and it seems that if the first Chrome process I open after a crash is an application shortcut, it irrevocably forgets about the other tabs I had open.
Uh, Joel, have you bought any Facebook stock on Sharespost?

Valuing Facebook just by the market price on Sharespost is like predicting the outcome of an election when only 1% of the votes have been counted. Maybe those votes are a representative sampling, maybe not.

I'm inclined to think not, because you have to be an accredited investor, ie already wealthy, to buy pre-IPO shares. Facebook's investors are there for the potential upside and are more comfortable with risk than Joe Blow saving for retirement or his kid's college education.

So Sharespost prices will be higher because (PROB_FB_DIES * NEG_UTILITY_FORME_IF_IT_DOES) will be less negative for millionaires than for the middle-class people or conservative mutual fund managers who will buy most of Facebook's equity when the company goes public.
This news is almost certainly placed by a PR agency and consulting firm aiming to create fear in companies for running outdated software.

Am I contributing to this debt because my company is running iTunes9 instead of iTunes10?
I think Patricks biggest contribution is that he's not a greedy person and willing to share his adventures to the betterment of all.

He has one thing he's very adamant about, he wants to have 100% of the thing he built. That's pretty limiting in terms of how far you can push it, my own idea is that I'd rather have a smaller part of something much larger, but we're not all built the same.

(see: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/09/02/new-trends-in-startup-in... , the last paragraph).

I think this is all about having your comfort zone and learning to walk before learning how to run.
Firefox 4 will update addons automatically.
I know, crazy eh? I think its silly that the default for most software applications is to ask the user about a software update. I think its safe to say that a majority of users want to be running the latest software, so the default should be to opt-out of software updates. I wish my iOS devices would auto-update apps instead of bugging me about it.

I get it, there are edge cases like an update needs to restart the computer, the Terms of Service change on it, etc. so maybe those would notify the user. Also, obviously IT departments would need to turn this stuff off.

Seriously, software vendors need to understand that today its a sensible default to just auto-update, but leave the door open for those who don't want that.
I believe his products are capitalizing quite well for his target audience. Indeed, I would go as far as saying he owns a fair share of that market and controls it quite well.

You just want to work on a larger scale, but don't be ignorant of the pieces coming together with a smaller puzzle... you're both still working on the same picture. Create a product, get it out there, make your target audience turn into a loving community, and make money.

No matter how much you turn business into some complex monster: the fundamentals will always remain the same.
Yeah, different people have different personalities. They have different motivations, different strengths and weaknesses. Money and fame are not universal drivers, it's that simple.

I'm not going to try to analyze Patrick. I enjoy reading most of his comments, and agree that he's valuable here, but I don't know him anywhere near well enough to think I have any insight into what makes him tick. I doubt very many other people do, either.

But I can talk about me! I have "money issues". I don't understand it the way that a proper businessperson should. All I understand are problems and solutions; poor people not having equal opportunities is a problem, in my mind, so I don't charge nearly enough. That means my business is constantly hamstrung and resource-short, and I work for less than minimum wage.

But, I couldn't respect myself if I doubled (or tripled) my fees and only focused on the people that could pay. It would make me far unhappier doing that, instead of struggling every month.

So, yeah: business isn't always a matter of rationality. If he's happy, then leave it alone. If he isn't, but doesn't ask for advice, then still leave it alone. If he ever asks for advice, think hard about whether you know him well enough to offer any.
It's not about context switching, it's about having to copy data from kernel space to user space and back. If there's no processing done between the calls to read() and write(), then there's no point copying it to user space.
There is definitely a distinction! The startup scene (Minibar/Open Coffee/TC Europe events etc) were great in the early months when I would happily listen to anybody and their pitch. However, I can count on the palm of my hand the number of useful connections I made.

In contrast, the tech scene - something you get into by producing/shipping - has been fantastic. We don't have a full time sales person, depending on referrals and introductions.
Is it possible that when Patrick says he doesn't earn more than $60k/year, he's talking about his paycheck, not the business?
There are lots of industries riddled with IP and it is not stopping them to be huge and successful.

I think there are lots of opportunities in this market and prices will go down. But I think the whole ecosystem of 3D printing has to change to accomplish this. Maybe Shapeways can contribute to this.
http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%20Centos%2C%20RedH...

RPM based distros generally have a tough standing since Ubuntu began to eclipse everything else in terms of popularity.
> And he is not done yet.

That's exactly where it's at. We can not look inside another persons head and this kind of 'reading the tea leaves' is bound to get it fantastically wrong in the longer term.
Certainly not two million in PayPal all at once, but if you want to know how many copies he's sold the numbers are right here http://minecraft.net/stats.jsp and I don't think the price has been below €10.
Ironically, for me Chrome loses on speed. I intentionally use somewhat underpowered tools for development. The danger is accidentally building something that runs fine on my system but that drags for users, i.e. the Crysis effect. Until the whole world uses Chrome, I can't target that level of performance.
So you are saying that in 2 minutes that you aren't watching logs somebody can't gain access, clear out the IDS and other logs and reset tripwire?
6 years of promotion might be overselling the occasional night and weekend of work. He's had a wonderful playground available to learn anything he wanted to learn about SEO. He was a salaryman until recently, and now he has an upcoming product that will likely make better use of his SEO and A/B testing expertise.
I would be worried about the lack of community integration in the asp.net platform if it was stagnant - but it's not. It's moving forward very rapidly. I guess he's unhappy that he can't contribute to that progress. I agree, it would be nice if MS at least reviewed contributions from the community but I imagine that is something decided by lawyers and not programmers in a company that size.

Personally I prefer stability in a platform over the exciting ups and downs of open source projects. I just want to get stuff done. I want my challenges to be in the code I write and not in maintaining a patchwork machine.

Finally, as a support base I find the .net community to be very good. Just look at how large and helpful the community on stackoverflow is. Communication from MS is also pretty good. You would certainly never see Scott Gu pull one of these:
http://blog.wekeroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/dhh-fu.j...
Hi Stanley - The setup steps show as secure with no warning in the latest versions of Chrome, FireFox, Safari, IE on both PC and Mac on my side, which platform are you seeing the warning in?
Justin.TV's iPhone app can stream if the need be :)
Can't wait to see patio11's answer to that.
Sometimes I think the big names startups (and angels, as per that bin 38 stunt) intentionally create soap-opera-esque controversy as a way of distracting the upstarts from the work they need to be doing.
That's why startup scenes are a bit of a mixed bag. You can meet really awesome people who can help you a lot. But you can't let it get in the way of building product.
Chrome, so far, is the only browser I can keep open with a bazillion tabs for days, weeks, MONTHS without seeing my system take a slow, deadly, performance hit. I'm sorry I didn't start using it sooner.
6 Free Brilliant Alternatives to Microsoft Office
Word processors and spreadsheet applications are a must have for everyone from students to professionals, but in these tough economic times who has the $100 – $300 to drop on productivity software. I would like to have the latest and greatest but for whatever reason my family is selfish and would rather eat then see me creating awesome pivot tables and PowerPoint presentations in Office 2010.
They have (or had; not checking again) one on their sign-up form. That they don't have one on their contact page suggests they don't know what CATPCHAs are for...
Chrome has an AdBlock extension too. It works great for me.

https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gighmmpiobklfepj...
Neat. Still, I think there is a much greater gap between punch cards and today and all of the technology lost to history than is being recognized in this article. We aren't saying "You're too young and stupid," we're saying "Holy cow, I didn't expect to be close to 40 years old and already have floppy disks compared to gaslamps. I'm not that old, am I? WTF? Technology is whizzing by! How are we going to deal with this? Where is the museum downtown with my Apple II on display? Do I have grandkids already?"

In other news:

If emailing to post to posterous, do you have to compose an HTML email in order to get a normal link to show up like the one in the post? ("This post by Dave Winer" link)
You can set your server to respond to both, and should.

I love when I can hit two different web pages on the same URL based on whether or not I included the 'www'.

This is a sign of a poor IT setup.

When you spell it out over the phone, you should include the http://, though. (Haha! It's also useless!)
I had to endure The Sound Of Music at least 20 times with my 3-year old son. Now that he is a little older he has moved on to more entertaining fare such as Cars and Shrek. I am dreading the transition to Transformers however.
Depends on how you look at it. If you imagine that every piece is made uniquely for you to your specifications, packaged and shipped to anywhere in the world then it is quite good. And it also depends on the product. There is a lot of jewelry or Apple accessories which are very reasonably priced.
Bump - Your License Plate Will Be Your Username
Wow. I don't even know where to start.

I think the best answer to "time to cash in on all those skills" is to note that he now does consulting, which is the very definition of what you are describing when you talk about who he could be helping.

About AppointmentReminder: you are presuming that somehow he is overlooking this huge potential goldmine that you so helpfully point out. The man in question is likely top diplomatic to say so directly, but I don't have any problem saying that this is a rather arrogant point of view.

Note that there are in fact more than three possible explanations for what he earns. And, why is it your business, anyway? Do you do this with other people, too? I think this kind of analysis is best done solely with yourself; the splinter in his eye vs.the plank in yours.

You are trying to help, but you aren't. And you just look bad on the process.
Hey it happens to the best of us.
You don't think so, but they probably have.

I always used to think I was a 'leech' user of TripAdvisor, until I worked there.
Related, I like that Chrome doesn't do this on Debian-based Linux systems, but instead uses the normal apt update mechanism. Seems like it fits expectations on each platform reasonably well.
What's funny is that they just recently entered into a partnership agreement with NCR to buy up DVDplay and replaced all the newer, more compact, and better designed DVDplay boxes with crappier, buggier, and bulkier Blockbuster boxes.

So their copycat of Redbox sucked. Their copycat of GameStop in-store video game sections sucked. Their copycat of Netflix sucked. It's like watching a kid trying too hard to become an adult. We're post-Sharper Image now, B&Ms: do something meaningful.
Usually, but some browsers won't accept forged cookies. It'll only accept cookies from the domain it requested from.