skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I did a whole write up about my homegrown attempt to do this last summer. That blog post from Google is more technical but eerily similar. https://philandrews.io/post/20000-phone-calls-later-why-siri...

In short, I don't have a lot of faith in this being plausible yet. The major reason is the phone lines. Phone call quality is not solid enough to ensure a accuracy rate high enough to roll this out as a production service. There are others, like legal considerations, but if I had to pick one that would be it.

There's a reason why this rose to number one HN, people would clamor for it. To think that Apple and Google haven't been thinking the same thing is short sited.
“Red-Alert” Is a Last-Ditch Effort to Save Net Neutrality
Carto is using Mapbox technology in the background. This blog posts explains some differentiation on top https://carto.com/blog/partnering-with-mapbox/
It became popular after he won because he started using the term incorrectly and labeling everything he disagrees with as fake news.

People weren't looking for something to blame his winning on. That's a loaded statement. They were looking for reasons that he won. That's a reasonable thing to do. We've never had a President like him. Our polling methods in the 2016 election didn't predict him winning. Obviously people missed something that was a factor in this election and fake news is one of the things they looked into.

Had Trump not butchered the term I doubt we would still be talking about it much in the public forum.
Not sure how you go from "finally catching up with support of a basic text format that's around for decades" to "making enough progress". This won't silence anyone - it just shows that Microsoft is finally starting to do things it should have done 20 years ago.
The implication is that as a company you will eventually pay google to rank higher in the recommendation listings. Listings are advertising.
And remember to recalibrate for your sense of “normal” which was formed by your parents, and by their parents.
Google's Android P will know what you want to do before you do it
How I manage to read a book per week
> The people losing their marbles over this being some kind of Turing Test passing distopian stuff are missing the point at how limited this domain is.

Right, and this kind of comments will continue for a while.

The question is - when the "this is trivial, move on" type of comments will start to fade out? Five years? Ten?
As I said, it should be a law, I didn't expect the existing robocall laws to apply here. Note that in no way has Google explicitly limited itself to conducting business transactions merely because that is what it demonstrated here.

The issue is that the intermediary is a Google corporate entity, theoretically acting on the user's behalf, but at the end of the day, acting on Google's behalf. Consider that Google's bots may do things in Google's best interests, not the best interests of the party on either side of the transaction.
Ask HN: What keeps you going?
I am a university student in CS, and I have been programming for over three years now. The initial motivation for studying CS came from the ability to make a computer do anything I wanted, but over the years, this feeling has dissipated.

What keeps you going over the long term? What makes you wake up every morning and sit down to code again?
The only reason powerful people are able to hoard power, and stay in power, is because so many other people allow this and willingly grant them this power.

Here's the real truth of that: We don't let people get away with it for long. Point-like aggregations of power aren't easily workable. Even absolute totalitarians need help from factions and need to keep their minions well paid. Such rulers can't buy loyalty, and so depend on blood relatives for that as well, which means they are very constrained in this precious resource. It's only the wide dispersion of power that is workable and stable, long term.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

The wider the dispersion, the better off the common person and society.
"better" - determined by who?
EXAMPLES is one of the primary categories of man pages. Your broader problem is that "The full documentation for * is maintained as a Texinfo manual", and most people never learned how to access and navigate those.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+full+documentation+fo...
Technology gets cheaper over time--and isn't it nice of those supposedly evil rich people to be beta testers so that by the time it gets to us it will be cheap?
That is Apple complying with local laws - which is what I expect every company to do.
I'm referring to Cloud CDN [1], which is per-backend setting that is disabled by default.

Unlike some other offerings (like AWS CloudFront), the CDN is transparent and built into the GLBC. Just by turning on the CDN, your load balancer automatically gets a globally distributed cache.

[1] https://cloud.google.com/cdn/
Sure, I'm not going to complain about things like quills being an example of convergent evolution. those two porcupines aren't the same species- they were ad-hoc clustered together based on phenotypic similarity. But if you investigated, you'd seen huge differences in the sets of genes required to grow quills.

There's nothing surprising or interesting about that- spike shapes are common in nature and probably fall out of basic genetic evo-devo rules naturally.
Yes. It's like what happened last night in Sweden. Sad!
I wonder where the government of Massachusetts stance on witches and their accusers fits into the "Fake news was illegal" narrative.
Came to say exactly that
The demos look as exciting as any chatbot demos we saw before, and I think it will fail in practice just like how chatbots fail. With the exception of very few verticals in controlled settings, most real world tasks are way more dynamic and fluid than what we can comfortable code in some state machine. The article pointed it out, too

> One of the key research insights was to constrain Duplex to closed domains, which are narrow enough to explore extensively. Duplex can only carry out natural conversations after being deeply trained in such domains. It cannot carry out general conversations.

The question is after you limit it to "closed domains" narrow enough, where it can still be practically useful. It might help with certain functions in enterprise settings. It will definitely work for spammers because they can work with even 1% success rate.
instead, how about giving me directions that dont involve 20 turns down tiny residential streets with 10 stop signs to travel 2 miles. when it can be done with 1 turn on 2 major roads with 2 traffic lights and an extra 0.1 mile? or multi-point routes on mobile? or a maps app UI that doesnt obstruct 60% of the actual map?

so many google products seem to reach EOL at "good enough". see also: Gmail, etc.
Ask HN: Security of Passwordless Login?
Hi, all. I noticed Tumblr (for me, as least) started offering passwordless login ala Medium (i.e. they'll send me a "magic link" that logs me in). I was wondering: how secure is this sort of passwordless login?

I think I've got a good understanding of how the magic links work (single-use, time-limited tokens, etc.) and that seems secure, but I'm wondering if you can rely on only the actual user receiving the email with the magic link. I hear a lot about how DNS is fundamentally insecure, and I suppose by inserting altered MX records an attacker could start receiving a domain's emails, but I'm not clear on exactly how such attacks work or how feasible they are. Also, would this be any less secure than the standard password reset function that also assumes only the actual user receives the reset email?

Can any of HN's security experts enlighten me?

Thanks!
Either the calls given in the example were staged, permission was solicited outside the bounds of this call, or they did it outside of California's jurisdiction. Recording calls without both parties' consent in California is illegal.
Mark Hopkins, CTO here. Happy as well to answer any technology questions.

WP Link: http://www.70mcoin.com/assets/Whitepaper-compressed-4eee04cb...
Really, you don't have a choice in our current understanding of physics. It's not a matter of if, but rather of when or how long.
Snopes isn't made up of experts and isn't an unbiased source. It mystifies me that so many people treat it as reliable, let alone infallible.

(sorry for pointing this out, but downvoting me doesn't change that it's true)
What's to hate? You solved the problems correctly and creatively. Any given reasonable limits on complexity of solutions (simpler -> better, Occam's razor), there are only a few solutions to any given problem.
Is this not going to be a part of Inbox?
> I very very rarely hear a fact touted by the left OR right that is just outright incorrect

Go look at donald trump's twitter feed. It's full of outright incorrect statements being presented as fact.
Due to climate change, hurricanes raining harder, may be growing stronger faster
Yeah, its unfortunately missing a lot of alaska. But the main problem is I have no idea how to reproject it into web-mercator and generate usable tiles from it.
Zapier maybe?
Yeah exactly that, offline. We always play with paper and pencil. Fishes having babies is the analogy for drawing the first few steps of 2^x. And then reasoning about that. That went in easier than divisions. Although candy and cookies really make math more simple to reason about. I've introduced division and sets by putting candy in bags (again paper and pencil) and the empty set is trivial for kids. They see 'no cookies' everywhere now. The world is filled with empty sets.
At times it seems the whole point of bureaucracy is to empower people to say "no" even in cases where the complainant has a valid case. You save money by nickles and dimes by forcing people to be a slave to the process and not allow any pesky sense of justice or empathy to impact their moneymaking performance.
Webpack squatting on parcel scopes on npm
This is harsh. Any creator knows the feeling of pouring time and effort into something, the anticipation of showing it to people, the excitement of making people happy, the doubts of being judged and criticised. And the crushing feeling of seeing negative feedback.

I appreciate that you're trying to save some kind of longer-term pain and to encourage loss-cutting, but I think the tradeoff of the damage you can do with a two sentence comment
that takes a couple of seconds to fire off vs the hundreds of hours that went into creating something like this, far outweighs the potential benefit (though it seems the creator took it graciously).

To me it seems like a "benefit of the doubt" applies here. The creator obviously saw a need and tried to fill it. As someone who has spent hundreds of hours dealing with Dropbox and S3 APIs, I believe there definitely is room for a far simpler service. Sometimes you just want to dump a file somewhere and retrieve it.

This looks to me like it could grow into the sqlite of the filestorage world, where Dropbox is probably the MySQL. It looks slightly rough around the edges, but very promising, and I will be watching development with great interest.
Ah, so I suppose there are two dimensions: 1) The caller has a business-reason for initiating the call; if the receiver doesn't want that sort of call, it's a problem (spam calls). 2) The caller is a robot, and the receiver might not want to accept calls from robots, and now they might not even know it's a robot with which to have an informed opinion.

I wonder which one the robo-call laws are trying to cover, if not both. Google's certainly doing both, what's new is that the receiver is being misled about (2) and possibly even (1).
Yea, I agree. I like my S8 and I have hopped back and forth between nexus style and Samsung S# phones but with the amount of bloat I get, having to force google launcher, and slower update roll-outs I think I am done with Samsung for awhile.
Analyzing Value of Operator Framework for Kubernetes Community
I’d like to add: Raising Our Children, Raising Ourselves — reduce your effort by working with nature and not against it. Teach respect, self-respect by modeling them. Let your child learn who they are by giving them age appropriate meaningful choices. Create conditions for them to learn self discipline by following their interests and projects.
A corporate version of the old NSA salute. al-qaeda operation dirty bomb infosec target juliett class prism activate!
What’s New in Flutter Beta 3?
Orig based in Arkansas where I grew up, now I live in Colorado. I've done a lot of stints diff places:
- A year in Cairo.
- A year in Melbourne.
- A year in Dublin.
- 1.5 years in Europe
- 6 months in South America

The good IMO opinion is everything, the only downside is building a community and meeting people takes a lot of energy. But looking back I think it takes a lot no matter where you live, it is just easier if you are there all the time.

How did it change my perspective? I am a lot more confident in general as I realized I can navigate a huge swath of different cultures and challenges. Knowing you can land just about anywhere in the world and take care of yourself is a good feeling. What else? I see a lot of what other countries are doing well and doing not so well at, when I go home it helps me see what we could be doing better.
Why stop there? Why not fix human communication? Or how about we fix human behavior so there are no bad actors? Education may be hard, but scrapping and rebuilding a century-old communication standard in use by billions is harder.

I used the IRS example because the IRS never calls you. This is only known through experience, i.e. education.
How would you apply the fairness doctrine to the web though. Will I have to host opposing viewpoints on my blog or face fines? The fairness doctrine made sense back when your ability to broadcast your opinions was limited by the shared medium of the radio spectrum. But now that anyone with any viewpoint can broadcast to everyone via the Internet the fairness doctrine doesn't make sense.
Whoa there tiger ... don't tell that to my dad!
Is this going to be available off-the-shelf like NVidia GPUs? That's the only way to get wider and faster developer buy-in.
Given that this is all driven by volunteer work, wouldn't it have made more sense to schedule the "sprint" on a weekend?
I don't need software to pretend to be human for me as I am already human and do not need to pretend.

Corrected title:
Google Duplex will call salons, restaurants for you, and pretend to be human.
OpenRouteService is libre routefinding for OpenStreetMap
Uber flying taxis
Video: CTRL-labs Announces Developer Kits at O'Reilly AI Keynote
Piaget's classification of thinking skills is good, but the theory that these kinds of thinking are developed in discrete stages at those ages has only vague experimental support.

Young children can engage in basic counterfactuals. Ask one.
Files encrypted at rest on Apple’s servers represents protection for Apple against external threats, not for the user.

These are security schemes that do not enhance the user’s privacy.

It’s cool that some companies are security conscious enough to do this, but for the user’s privacy remember that ... if it’s not end to end encrypted, it doesn’t matter for privacy, just for security and those two notions are very different ;-)
Never underestimate a neckbeard's desire to flare their plumage. There is always another reason to criticize.
YES FELLOW HUMAN I AM ALSO HUMAN HUE HUE HUE HUE PLEASE INSERT GIRDER
I would prefer a faster bootup time and search field that doesn't lag for 3 seconds before bringing up the keyboard.

Maybe it's because I'm using an iPhone 5S but it would still be nice.
https://i.imgur.com/k2k7SD0.jpg
Then the restaurants will just stop taking phone reservations. Either no reservations or online-only.
I love how no matter how amazing something is, someone will eventually say it's trivial, even though it's taken the smartest people on earth decades to figure out how to do this.

>The end game would be for the business to run something like duplex on the other side, and you’d have duplex talking to duplex.

The end game is clearly to use an api, not this.
There are certainly "facts" that I have heard people say or spread online that were clearly false like millions of illegals voted in the last election (when in reality one article claimed that and had lots of rebuttals and now has a disclaimer at the top of the article) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/illegal-immigrants-2008-el...

or that Hillary Clinton only won 57 counties in the 2016 election https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-won-3084-of-3141-cou...

However, the fact stands that there are also a lot more cases of wildly different interpretations of the same fact. We can look at poverty rates or crime rates and draw very different conclusions about the causes or solutions to those problems based on the same information.
What brand of tin foil do you use to make your hats?

>My smartphone is now a black box in control of my life.

Only if you let it control your life.
You don't even have to look past the current President, who is the most prominent member of the Republican party and to a degree the political rightwing in the US. He tells outright lies on a regular basis.

He lies about trivially verifiable things like the weather and number of people at his inauguration, past statements he has made, about whether any presidents between Reagan and himself have cut taxes, about peoples faces openly bleeding from a facelift, about CNN/WaPo/NYT "failing", about the murder rate, etc, etc, etc.

Here's a decent list to get started, for anyone interested.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/stateme...

Note that not everything on that list is an outright lie. Many of them are, but not all of them.
This is cool and interesting however I believe it's worth noting that the more pernicious issue is that the phrase "fake news" is used to discredit expert opinion that doesn't line up with one's preconceived notions. We replicate this by using the term at our own peril.
I think the person you were responding to was being sarcastic.
Consider the audience. 20-something and childless, with an underdeveloped sense of right and wrong, which is what has led to so many problems in the tech arena today.
It already works in Firefox (behind a flag), but sadly some websites explicitly target Chrome...
Show HN: Launch with AI in a week or less
Duplicate https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17022963
An so it begins... To anyone who has read Daemon by Daniel Suarez this sounds very creepy.
Definitely part of a "normal" Windows install, but I don't know if it's part of Windows Server too.
>how many police departments have Faraday cages lying around?

Police departments use Faraday bags to isolate the communications of a device once they take it into custody. I assume they do this to prevent RemoteWipe() commands from running from external entities to preserve evidence.
With the google news revamp (to preferring videos to everything, presumably to increase ad revenue) it seems like they want to move the web to more “bad” engagement.
To save CPU/GPU/TPU there should be a high-frequency sound, as in people can’t hear, so the computers talking to each other and switch to a faster way to communicate.
If this is included you also have way to detect if you are talking to a bot/duplex.
> I am far more afraid of technology we can't control that works for an ad company, not for us, than moving technology forward a little bit slower.

I'm not sure what you're arguing for - that you wish companies weren't driving technological advancement? That Google specifically shouldn't?

Also, it's very, very conceivable that there are people for whom this technology DOES work for. The mute, for example. I'm not sure it's appropriate to speak for all of "us".
Azure Durable Functions
Call it only Lisp, if it is actually compatible with Lisp. Otherwise you will confuse people. Scheme compatible languages usually have Scheme in their name (if at all): MitScheme, Macscheme, Chicken Scheme, DRScheme, ...

See http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-faq-standards#implem...

There are also already Lisp and Scheme implementations called Lispkit...
> my sister wants her kids to be doctors

Thats such an Indian stereotype :D. Source: me.
I find that the phrase "political correctness" can almost always be replaced with "treating people with respect."
They do? Last I looked, Google was working hard to level the USA down to China and then they can have one worldwide platform for global slavery.
It's 'Tensor Processing Unit' as far as I know.
What Does It See? The troubled gaze of an artificial intelligence
Title should be "Trump withdraws U.S. from nuclear agreement" or just "U.S. withdraws from nuclear agreement".

The distinction matters as this is something the U.S. (not just Trump) is doing. The rest of the world care less about who or what causes the U.S. to act this way.
Last time I checked, the default embed code provided by Google Analytics (which covers 99% of website stats) was a single script tag.
It is possible for every atom in a quarter to suddenly move in the exact same direction at the same instant, temporarily lifting the quarter off a table. But it won’t happen. It has likely never happened in the history of the universe.
Open Source Is Not Enough
That's not true, there's the large attack surface of those other protocols to worry about too.
State of American Vacation 2018
I'm not sure why either of these comments is being downvoted. They're both true at the same time, though I agree with you that the parent comment overstates what Trump actually did which was weaponize the critique into something to generally dismiss expert opinion.
>the obvious approach would be to just remove the battery

Might this constitute 'tampering with evidence'?
idk about recommendations, but I've started using Google Maps more than Yelp for calling restaurants and sharing addresses with friends because Yelp takes way too long to boot up compared to Google Maps.

Speed matters!
>Auto-complete is hardly "avoiding human contact", is it?

It is. It removes the color and nuance from typed communication. There's a lot of metadata in typos.
How is "PM" more specific than "noon"?

Absent the context of this conversation, it's not immediately obvious to me whether 12 PM is midday or midnight, where as "noon" is unambiguous.
Blah. Some people just won't be happy until JSON turns into the debacle XML turned into. It's a special kind of brain problem to see a simple straightforward thing and to only consider how one might bolt on arbitrary complexity.
Since the first amendment we've had 200+ years of nearly untrammeled progress. Before that, we in Europe had absolute monarchy and the divine right of Kings.

Now sure, they might have been wrong, and they're weren't infallible, but if you're seeking to overturn that, you probably need something more compelling than 'the internet has increased the flow of information'. It was the increased flow of information with the printing press that brought about the Enlightenment in the first place.
Exactly. In practice it doesn't work. I have a few web sites where I'm using U2F, none of those works with Firefox.
I suppose it depends on whether I'm wearing my "user hat" or my "Notepad developer hat".

As a Notepad developer, I might agree with you that Unix line ending support is a new feature.

As a user, I double-click a text file and it opens in Notepad. It opens fine in all of my other editors, but is garbled in Notepad. That feels like a bug.

I don't try to open .xlsx files in Notepad, so it isn't very relevant to me as a user that Notepad won't open them. If I did open one accidentally, I'd think "D'oh! That's not a text file!"

But this is just terminology. Files that Notepad couldn't open usefully before will now work. That's a good thing, whatever we call it.