skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'm saying there is no precidence in history of any of the EU members imposing a maximum fine against a child for their personal project.

You're pulling out the scariest parts of the GDPR and assuming everyone is going to get bettered with it regardless of:

* whether they've already been warned or not

* their site's size or income

* business size or income

* nor even the severity of the transgression

Thankfully our universe and reality doesn't operate in your worst case fear-mongering. And as I've already stated, you can look back at the history of EU legislation to see evidence to that effect. Posting absurd and unfounded arguments like your previous example really doesn't help the situation one bit.
There will be people for whom this literally decides whether or not they start / keep working on a side project - it's a great idea.
No, the foundational error of the incel world is the denial of the fundamental humanity of literally everyone else in the world.
‘Europeans would be fucked’... as if there aren’t any successful or innovative European companies?

Bare in mind that you probably use some sort of service to handle every time of payment, even if it’s a local sale (e.g. Stripe, VISA Pay/V PAY etc.). Additionally, selling goods in the US is just as complicated for an external business as it is into the EU - state, county and city sales taxes, as well as exemptions from US taxes laid out in international treaties have to be accounted for. The general advise if you want to sell internationally is ‘get an accountant’, because it’s actually quite a complicated subject (unsurprisingly).
Yes, they can, and the postscript portions are even stored in plain text for you to edit, unless you tell whatever pdf compilation tool you're using to encrypt the entire document. There is no conversion unless you're using a poorly written PDF compiler.

(this also makes your analogy pretty weak - it's more like "having a PNG include a bitmap image", in addition to all the other data it can contain)

of course, most _readers_ will ignore raw postscript because the PDF format is intended for print documents and having an insanely complex code instruction that draws "a picture" is crazy inefficient compared to just including the vector graphic (not the bitmap graphic, that would be quite dumb) that the postscript program is supposed to yield.
sorry, but didn't you read the article?

It begins with years of bullying at school, well before puberty.

Making sex work legal doesn't seem like a solution that addresses anything about the actual root cause of this issue.
Can anyone give an example of a company that has been targeted by legal firm or an agency ? All I know about it patent trolls. So how would these legal firms make any money from the GDPR !?
Besides sympathy, there is the issue of society becoming destabilized. Anything that leads to a significant number of unmarried males will cause huge social problems. This includes things that, for various reasons, we might otherwise want.

So there is a cost to polygamy, a cost to preferentially aborting female babies, a cost to women not needing men for survival, a cost to not sending men off to die in war, and so on. The result is a greater potential for violence and general mischief.

We tend to think of sex as low-priority compared to things like air and water and food. If we ignore the time scale though, and instead focus on what these things mean in an evolutionary sense, it is clear that they are equal. We need air... so that ultimately we can pass on our DNA. With a long-term perspective, it is clear that sex is on an equal footing with things like air and water and food.

When a good chunk of the population is being denied something so essential, we're facing serious trouble.
It's certainly not a recent development to require compliance with law even for products or services that are free.

Transactions do not have to involve money and in fact, the very topic of this entry on HN is about a website that was free, with transactions that did not involve money.
Some people may have the ability to drop into deep states of sleep with unusual rapidity where they don't need the extra ramp up and ramp down hours that most of us need so they can make do with 5 hours with the same quality it takes most of us to reach with 8.
> Except this isn’t really true. Streetlend made its money by selling your privacy data to advertisers through Amazon. So when you put up a power drill for lend, people would see power drills for sale at local shops, based on their online presence harvested through stuff like their Facebook account.

Founder here. Streetlend never passed personal data to Amazon. It used the search term eg “ladder” and showed ladders on sale from Amazon. No personal data was passed.
This is cool - well done to you.

Even more than the money, just having someone tell them that their idea isn't terrible will be a great help.
Ah, I'm curious because it's not uncommon to see some restaurants and bars patronized by food service folks. SFGate periodically runs "where do the chefs eat" type human interest stories from time to time.
It doesn't matter who they are "attempting" to serve. If they hold data on any EU citizens they fall under GDPR.
What percentage of Facebook workers are contractors?
I don’t agree with you. Here’s the reason, explained better than I would: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16955013
Re post-fact rationalization, while Bezos and Buffett were successful before having a fan base they also remained successful for a long time after. It's going to be hard to find discussion of "merits of strategies before they become successful" as the people with brilliant strategies will probably already be successful to an extent.

Though in Buffett's case he used to lose money in the stock market as a kid - he bought his first stock at age 11. He only really started winning there after reading The Intelligent Investor at 19. He kind of started writing his letters around 27.
Not to mention how many consoles are sold by third party and are imports.

I’ve stopped buying expensive electronics on Amazon. It’s too much of a pain to deal with. I will buy cheap junk because at least I am paying for what I’m getting.
A GDPR graveyard? Let's make it interesting and start a GDPR deadpool.
So you really think that was my point?

What I was getting at is what relevance the quality of a CEO's internal communication prowess has when his company perpetuates toxic practices and processes from the top down.
Here she talks about her life/career story, quite amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLy0mVkoLio
The ICO has a tiny staff and is already underfunded. The grace period is a pragmatic one not one enshrined in law!
> Technical interviews (at least in companies such as facebook and google) are usually much easier than competitive programming problems.

Probably. But if you are a student outside U.S where the opportunities are an order of magnitude less the only way to even land an interview with these companies is by doing competitive programming. Google selects students through APAC test in Asia where you have to be top n% in the leaderboard to even get an interview. Doing leetcode and all would not take you anywhere in these contests as you are competing with hardcore student programmers who have been practicing competitive programming their entire University life in search of an escape from the middle class. All the persons I know of in my country who works at Google or Facebook got their job through competitive programming.
One of they key things to me is increased fines that are available. I've likely had my data and families data lost through a variety of terribly insecure services having breaches.

TalkTalk lost 150k peoples information (including bank account numbers, sort codes, dates of birth, etc - people who later then received scam phone calls with people who knew their details) due to extremely basic security failings. They were fined £400k (a record fine). They then did it again and paid £100k.

Properly securing the site and the data over many years could easily cost more than that, added to the chance you'll not get hacked or fined and it is perhaps even a financially sensible position to not put the effort in.
That is crystal clear personal activity to me.

Also which protection worthy data does the comments contain? Most likely none.
Sure. Going back to your question

> why do you expect the EU to go after the equivalent site with a few thousand users

You are saying that they DO that, but then will (probably) apologize afterwards. Some website owners consider that an unacceptable risk.
Music notation is a form of assembly language in which the original compositional ideas are expanded and flattened out into reams of tiny instructions for a "virtual machine": an abstraction of a musical instrument.

Nothing in music indicates semantic concepts like "this is motif M3 from the first movement, but transposes into a minor key, and played backward at half tempo". It's all just expanded into notes, which are like micro-instructions for the violin or oboe.

The music composer, when engraving notation, rarely invents any new symbols. If so, in a modest quantity.

In even small scale software engineering, the symbols unique to a given software system outnumber those in the programming language. We develop software by creating large dictionaries of new identifiers, such as functions and types. These symbols, which can number in the thousands and beyond, cannot have one character names, or there will be chaos.

The main challenge is understanding a program's own identifiers, not those in the programming language.

Terseness in the programming language helps at the microscopic level. The leaf terms of the program's syntax tree become more compact. The advantage of this in the overall context of making a big program is modest and has diminishing returns. Giving the core functions of a language short names, say from around two to six characters, goes a long way toward bringing about a useful level of terseness.

What also helps understanding is giving meaningful names to intermediate values. A pipeline of 13 operations is hard to understand, whether their names are one-character glyphs or 4-8 character words. If it's broken into, say, three smaller pipes, the first two of which are evaluated into variables with meaningful names, it will be helpful.

So that is to say, we shouldn't be cramming so many open-coded steps into a computation that they need one character names in order to fit into a reasonable space on the screen.

This is the problem with APL programs and programmers: failure to decompose complex operations into small functions with clear names.

I don't care that you can make some cool operation by stringing together seven letters. I am not impressed. What I don't want to see is you copy and pasting those seven letters all over the place whenever you wish to invoke this cool operation. If I will have to maintain that, I would really appreciate it if that string of seven letters appeared in one place as a definition, and had a nice ten-letter name, which is then used in all the other places where that operation is required even though (horror of horrors) it is 42% longer!

And, no, do not be giving it a one-character name using some Greek or Japanese symbol not yet claimed by APL. Do you really want your maintainers to have to make flashcards of the program's identifiers and do spaced repetition night after night?
Mathematically, they are not wrong. An eigth circle is still visually indistinguishible from a true circle (see https://pomax.github.io/bezierinfo/#circles for the proof to back that claim up). Their image, however, shows what happens when you try to only use four, rather than eight, curves: things look clearly wrong (as for how wrong, the aforementioned link gives the error measure. It's _quite_ wrong).
I’m starting a company focused on consumer data. It’ll be opt in. I don’t have a lot of resources. I’ll just use Cloudflare to block Europe until I see if it works as a business elsewhere. If it does then I will add Europe by figuring out how to comply with the GDPR.

Europe will get less innovation but have more privacy. Not sure what’s better for society but time will tell.
You can take a square reader anywhere. So nothing you said would keep me from stopping by the theater each day on the way home from work.
People are downvoting you because they don’t understand that downvote is not for disagreement, but for a comment that doesn’t add to the conversation while yours clearly does. I am going to be downvoted for saying this but functional illiterates are everywhere.
Ya, or just take your square reader with you to the theater lobby.
I've been there. It's a frustrating situation, and difficult to change.
Unfortunately every enterprise-level SAML server implementation has critical incompatibilities with the others. So you need to support specific servers and that's a lot of work and testing.
Fedora 28 will be released First of May
Interesting, I've only ever seen these on Pornhub... ;)
I'll accept that it might be "dumb" to you, but it's definitely not a joke.

More than 1.3 billion people live on less than $1.25 per day. Sure most of them will not have computers/Internet access. But $200 USD could mean a lot to some poor community college kid in India, for example.

Or even a struggling, aspiring (or down on their luck) coder in America who doesn't have a cushy software gig.
It's niche and wouldn't be useful to any readers here.
Funny thing about Lolinda, one of their line cooks stabbed some guy to death. I was on the jury and man did that case reaffirm my cynicism towards our judicial system.

There are a handful of less casual Mexican places in the Bay Area, but not many (Tres Agaves and Nopalito come to mind). Lolinda is actually Argentinian, not Mexican, though.
I was under the impression us doesn't make sense to consider the idea of absolute position in space.
But the industry as a whole doesn't have these margins or salaries; only the top dogs do.
Waking to an alarm is a training thing. You have to make it policy that when the alarm goes off, you're up and out of bed within 10 seconds.

You'll never sleep through an alarm again. It's the snooze button that kills people.
Don´t lie about your qualifications because they will know after hiring you. That´s not a good impression for the business. Maybe you want to get a good job but you should start small and learn, learn and learn until you get to the better positions. An internship would be a great start, eventually in another country.
Ya, but so what? They are reading my emails in order to serve me ads... which I will never see.
I hear from many people that they have problems sleeping, I have never ever had that problem. Imho the big difference was almost always them telling me: they fret about not being able to sleep vs. me telling them: I can truly enjoy just getting into bed and I sometimes wrestle to not fall asleep because that feeling of being tired and hitting the bed is just so nice I want to extend the time I experience it... The wrestle is always useless because sleep comes very fast.

Even when I don't fall asleep immediately I can enjoy taking the time to think about work or plan the next day or think about future vacations or what I'm going to do to my home server when 18.04 comes out or the latest episode of Isaac Arthur [0], there are many nice things to think about with little else on the mind. It's almost a shame sleep disrupts my train of thought sometimes :)

I'm a bit of a fretter myself but never about sleep.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g
Is there any dedicated effort to speed up LLVM compilation? I imagine that would benefit a lot of languages.
Current navy size seems less relevant than what it could be if they were planning to invade Australia. If I decided to invade an island nation my first step would be to build enough boats.
Yes, I understand all of that. But you didn't answer my question.

My company has no presence in EU, and neither myself, nor any one of my employees are going there.

What's the risk?
FYI most of (all?) of government related websites are under *.gouv.fr in France.

Having an alias under the .gov TLD for people used to this TLD would make sense, like eg tourism.france.gov => tourisme.gouv.fr
What Does GDPR Mean for Your Business?
so is every site that uses affilate links selling your data? I didn't see anything else mentioned in the description.
The whole point of the law is to destroy the business model of people using Google Analytics, Google AdSense, Amazon affiliate links, etc.

So that maybe someday we'll have a web without tracking again.
I think megaman22 is saying they don't want to become a SaaS, for exactly the reason you say.
I was thinking more about this applying to all adult citizens of a country and not any particular corporation...
Suing you directly will not fly in the EU (maybe in the UK, but that is only going to be an issue for 1 year or so).

I suspect the DPA will start with a letter, where you will need to explain your current practices.

Then, nothing more happens (if you are mostly-complind and good-willed). Maybe you will get some written instructions to better yourself.
> The problem is what happens if a legal firm or an agency targets you. Even if you adhered to the spirit of the law, they can dig up evidence that you didn't obey the letter of the law (since GDPR is quite loose and ambiguous).

And in that case the regulator would write you a letter asking you to fix it. At that point you have the choice to fix it, or to write back and explain why you can't fix it now. Or you can ignore the regulator, which may lead to a small fine.
This sounds like the equivalent of "Poor people should realise that society doesn't owe them anything, and should stop being lazy and instead work hard and be happy like me". "Incels" aren't all just too stupid to get out of a situation they don't want to be in, they're not willfully miserable. If it was as simple as just doing the right thing and becoming "normal" they'd probably have done it.
For a long time access to archive.is was blocked to the whole of Finland, which was frustrating.
Ben & Jerry's originally capped the pay ratio of their highest salaried executive and lowest-earning-worker to 5:1 ($150,000/year and $12/hour in 1995), but over the years they raised the ratio to 7:1, 17:1, and then stopped sharing a ratio after Unilever acquired them in 2000.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/companies-follow-ben-jerrys-l...
"routine" ? Is that a common thing ?
As a small business owner, I disagree - I was essentially compliant already, with the policy changes required taking an evening to implement. (OK, there was some time spend reading before then, but still).
He probably means cleaning staff, cooks and other auxiliary functions.
>Yeah but I always turn off lights as I leave a room

Do you plan to live alone forever? 'cause roommates, spouses, and especially children tend to make turning the lights off as you leave the room quite futile.
https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2018/01/12/birdcage-liners/

> How do we prevent extinction? By only giving treats some of the time. So the dog learns something more subtle. When my master says come and I obey, I might get a treat. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t. That way, if I obey and don’t get the treat, I shouldn’t panic. I should still always come when he says come because that’s still the best way to get the most treats. Intermittent reinforcement works better.

> This sounds like what Facebook was doing to me.
Read the article : it was a trade off. Paying the technical debt when designing the tool would simply have made them fail far faster.

Having this tool, correctly designed, was too expensive and not worth what people were willing to pay for it. We still had the tool because it was hacked together.
I largely agree with you. I'm happy that GDPR is meant to protect consumers and frankly, it's about damn time something was done about protecting our personal data.

What I challenge, though, is the assertion that it's easy to comply with if you're not doing "shady" things with data. The law is so broad and sometimes subtle/ambiguous that it COULD turn out to be a nightmare for just about any company. The safety here really is in not being on the short shit list of regulators. And one might end up on that list for any number of reasons unrelated to data protection (eg. size, market position, media coverage/populism).
I would recommend books like "eat that frog" or "getting things done". They show great insides of productivity methods and gave me something to think about. I can establish them in my daily business life and enhance my productivity.
At my job we do it semi-automatic; i.e. there are automatic export tools, but emails are sent forth and back first.

This is because we've received only a handful of requests and because there isn't an automatic system for the extra layer of authentication comparable to answering an email with a token in it.

Come to think of it, this places an even bigger value on email: You can probably get all of someone's private data from external sites once you have their email. As if it wasn't a big enough part of stealing someone's identity already; now you can properly steal people's pasts!
Form a limited company and run the site from that. If you're prepared to shut the site down anyway, then that remains the worst thing that can happen for non-compliance.

There's no need to shut the thing down just in case someone sues you when that hasn't happened yet.

On the other hand, there's a good reason to shutter your site because you don't have time to make it respectful of people's privacy. By all means, shut down your site because the GDPR makes you realise that! But that's not what OP is saying.
> GDPR threatens website owners with fines of 4% of turnover or €20 million (whichever is higher)

This is only for the worst, flagrant willing and knowing breaches. Small websites who made an effort to comply wouldn't ever get hit with this kind of fine.
Pretty sure there is an extradition treaty [0], which the US makes use of to e.g. try and get British hackers extradited [1]. Such requests can be blocked (also [1]).

[0] http://ec.europa.eu/world/agreements/prepareCreateTreatiesWo...

[1] http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-42946540
Cleaning staff, cooks, etc, scale with the size of buildings. Customer support staff, content flag reviewers, etc, scale with the number of users. Since Facebook has so many users, I would expect the second category to be much larger.
It gets better when you stop trying to match with 18-26 year olds.
Sue you for what? What "suing ammunition" exactly does the GDPR provide your competitors with?

The authorities are not idiots, and have limited resources - they are only going to be chasing the true bad apples that are willfully infringing the GDPR.
I'm use FF a ~$35 one year old Huang, with more than 100 tabs open, and have had no issues. Not so with the default browser.
Doesn't seem true on the ground. There isn't even many consultancy opportunities getting companies GDPR-ready. 99.99% of companies are managing just fine getting someone to skim the rules and make some guidelines to put with all the other guidelines and internal docs they already have in a big binder.

Its only the end-user-is-product companies that have to have armies of lawyers, and that is no bad thing surely?
For some other, newer approaches to improving paxos performance, especially in high or variable latency environments, folks may be interested in epaxos (http://delivery.acm.org/10.1145/2520000/2517350/p358-moraru....) and wpaxos (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.08905.pdf).