skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
No, what they are saying is that they have a history of being harassed by the legal system for adult ads existing on the system even with the stronger version of Section 230 in place, and they know that with it weakened that it would only get worse.

Our legal system is not one in which only those actually liable under any reasonable reading of the law bear costs, and when you widen the scope of liability you also widen the sphere outside that scope where claims that lack genuine merit still aren't trivially dismissable and, especially when you’ve got a prominent (inter)national-scale target and politically driven (and often publicly-funded) opposition, there is a huge chilling effect outside the actual zone of prohibition anytime you expand the scope of legal liability for being a vehicle through which communications flow.

And Senator Blumenthal isn't a big enough idiot to fail to realize that's what is being said, he's just twisting it because he doesn't want to engage with it.
For me, based on what I read, having high expectations is mainly about “seeing” someone as capable. Steven Covey talks about this in 7 habits with their child.

If you inherently believe that a child can’t accomplish “x”. They feel and know that is the expectation. However, if you fundamentally “believe” they can do x, you are setting them up to accomplish x.

But I must say, this is not something that can be faked. You have to genuinely believe the expectation.

Kids are smart, and they will see through any fake beliefs you “think” you are imparting. It is important to value them for what they are, and inherently value how incredible they are.
I find it amazing that Chollet even tries to argue "There’s only one company where the product is an opaque algorithmic newsfeed, that has been running large-scale mood/opinion manipulation experiments..." when Google's ranking algorithm is so infamously fickle, and especially when its per-user bubbling is an open secret and even obliquely touted as a feature.
Credible or actual harm is useable as a legal standard. If you wanted to outlaw "hate speech" what standard could be used to do that? How could you prevent abuse of those laws in order to suppress unpopular or otherwise subversive speech?

In other words, it might sound like a good idea, but there's absolutely no way to prevent a legal standard that does not stem from actual or credible harm from being abused by the powerful to suppress the powerless.
You are making it sound like I argued against standards, that's not the case. Yes, ability to audit the code is paramount, and I want to go that direction for everything. We are merging with our creations, people have their noses so far in their phones they are starting to head mount and have it overlay their field of view. Without source access, we wont even be able to check if our own experiences are real.

Relying on experts to audit things is obvious and correct, but they must be "anyone", not just a select few that get to see the details. Maybe I am not qualified to evaluate something, but that is never a reason to prevent me from looking at the same information the experts have, in fact that's how those experts came to be.

The fact that some people don't care is irrelevant. They get tricked, and learn. Consider how many people are re-evaluating what FB even _is_ right now.
Isn't all of this for friend suggestions? The people you text most often are more likely to be your friends.

Other services ask you to give them your email username and password, so that they can scrape your inbox to discover your contacts. I think LinkedIn used to do this, but they appear to just use SSO with the largest providers now.
It would be fun if there were a service to create false profiles to pollute the data miners of this world.
That's what PowerBoxes are designed to do in the capability-based, security model. In theory, it can happen if Android had different model.

http://www.plash.beasts.org/powerbox.html

Note: I'm using this link just to explain the concept rather than endorse anything on the site. It was top of Google results.
I don't know how taboo this is on HN, but can you share a fundraising link? I'd like to help.
I'm a proponent of the idea that the bag ban is a contributing factor to the hepatitis epidemic. I don't think it is the only factor. The epidemic also started about the same time the multi year California drought broke. That was an especially wet winter, with deadly storms and flooding. I think the heavy rains likely also contributed to the epidemic.

There are probably other factors as well. I believe homelessness has been on the rise in Southern California. Concentration of poverty tends to go bad places healthwise.
A working engine and less rusting bodywork for my VW van house. Oh seriously? Then something that uses almost all SaaS and has marginally-zero unit cost like a self-improvement videos site.
It’s time to start a new printer company. Anyone on board?
Much as I appreciate you responding to only the first sentence of my reply, I’m going to have to point out that your FOSS rant is only tangentially related to what I said, mate.
and people wonder why mathematics is reviled. talk about elitest.
You have no idea how much I've considered it. I walk through the bakery section while grocery shopping sometimes and fantasize about eating ALL of it. Even the cheap store brand stuff looks SO GOOD.
Or anyone else’s voice. Someone on the phone waiting for nuclear launch code verification never gets the right code, even though it’s a familiar voice on the line.

Or damaging a competitor’s business relationships with opportunistically broadcasted lewd comments, when people aren’t looking at each other’s faces enough to see their mouths move.
Please stop with this "SJW" nonsense
I used to think that home schooling was a travesty, but now that I can reflect on how useless school was, maybe it isn’t so bad after all. The #1 most useful piece of all my pre-university schooling was the socializing. Academics were consistently subpar
If you absolutely have to be in a spot to support this a trigger-based approach is by far the best way to handle it, either by pervasive use of database views (and have INSERT triggers to handle writes, that way you can version the view and handle any extra validation logic during migration with a temporary performance hit) or having a trigger on the old table feeding the new schema and then swap the tables upon upgrade of the software.

Both solutions suck in some way compared to the downtime required schema changes as far as simplicity is concerned, but they let you maintain consistency throughout the change at least and let you bail out midway if needed

On that note, I'm glad all but a single system I maintain is only used by employees - just schedule a maintenance window after-hours and I'm free to take things down for a couple hours if needed.
There's also a hardware solution: https://www.amazon.com/CRU-Inc-30200-0100-0013-CRU-DataPort-...

Or a powered turntable for your mouse, if you can't plug HID devices into your machine! https://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Mouse-Mover/dp/B079P592K8/
Circa 2006, I saw some crazy ass undetectable worm Windows shit on a production oracle database server that was insanely connected directly to the internet for a couple of years. Winternals, Symantec and Microsoft folks couldn’t find a forensics smoking gun for what was there, but it fit a too aggressive advanced persistent threat (APT) type that was so aggressive it was NIDS detectable but neither HIDS nor clean boot HIDS detectable. The only solution would’ve been to reimage the machine, but of course that wasn’t allowed, so it was just locked down brutally and left to do whatever.
I don't understand why people don't just email photos to their friends without involving middlemen like facebook?

Don't you have your friends in a private contacts list/address book? Isn't it trivial to send a photo attached to an email? What is the problem?

Note: I do not and never have used facebook, genuinely don't understand what the deal is here.
> It has been enacted into law in 11 states possessing 165 electoral votes (CA, DC, HI, IL, MA, MD, NJ, NY, RI, VT, WA).

So far only very blue states have passed it, which tells you something about what the red and competitive states think of it.

The campaign is cleverly structured in a way to avoid national debate on the matter, and delayed impact further reduces the discussion in each state.

I don’t see it going anywhere.
Denying the progress of sexual freedoms over the last 300 years can only come from an exclusively male/white/adult/heterosexual perspective.

Some freedoms that quickly come to mind:

the right NOT to have sex (rape within marriage, or of slaves, was legal. Other rape laws were largely unenforced)

gay sex, interracial marriage (and sex), sex among teenagers

Access to pornography is legal, and vastly easier due to technical reasons than in the past.

Women have been recognised as sexual beings equal to men, and their pleasure is no longer ignored.

The possibility to have sex and not get pregnant arose and became easier. So did abortion.

Norms around age of consent were lowered.

Specifically for prostitution: It's a point of heated debate in the feminist community if the liberalisation in, for example, some European countries actually led to better working conditions and less human trafficking.

That's why that community, which advocated for legalisation in the past, is now split on the subject. It's just not clear if legalisation was successful.
Shouldn't this be an "opt-in" discussion ?
The people owned the web, tech giants stole it. This is how we take it back
Also, “maybe I guess” now means “yes forever” to them. How many inebriated TOS acknowledgements have happened?
What platform? Surely android as you can do that in iOS without those permissions and I would have thought you’d get rejected if you tried that on.
Why is this happening? I see the argumnent that these organizations are private companies and can do whatever they see fit, including censorship, I see no reason why these should not be opposed on principle. Global expression of ideas should not be controlled by any one jurisdiction or board of directors.

When will we ever find a solution? Decentralisation is fun to talk about but almost impossible to accomplish in practice. So how do we create a compromise scenario that protects the free spread of ideas? I have no idea. I am so sick of all this.
Shouldn't there be those impact absorbing bumpers before the concrete barrier?
Exactly. Moreover, Pidgin is not only extremely useful already, but could also solve some further issues such as usability, customizability, and security in everyday communication.
Did you mean to respond to some other comment? In this thread, we are talking about cell phone permission systems. We are not talking about a "service," and the system in question is not something one buys or gets for free on its own.
I understand the blow-back against their privacy abuses, it's well deserved (as it was in the past). However, this kind of response is just funny.

The stock is back to where it was in July. Up 100% in less than three years.

$464 billion market cap.

Things are really dire. They'll only earn $20 billion this year, growth will only be 30%+.

They only have ~$43 billion in cash right now with zero debt. That's barely enough to keep the lights on. They should shut down the business right now before they run out of money.

The speeding tickets they might one day get from the EU, could cost them hundreds of millions of dollars. But just imagine, what if it's $3 billion. I mean, it's not like Facebook can reluctantly change several of its policies while maintaining its massive 2+ billion userbase and keep right on printing money at their 50% operating income margins. Yeah, but just imagine if their operating income margins decline to only 40% because it crimps their business model by reducing the value of their ad targeting. And what if it cuts their growth rate in half? Under that scenario they might only earn $30 billion in net income in 2021. It's a rough road ahead.

The other fun part? They'll still net add global users in 2018. None of this is going to matter for the survival of their business, although it might improve user privacy around the globe and that'll be a big win.
Oooh I've been trying for ages to kill my insta FB link. My FB app permissions is null and zilch, but FB must have secret storage of this.

I'll try that. Then kill the fake account.
Interesting! The only .scpt files I can find in /System are Automator actions or in Script Utility itself, and of those the only one that seems relevant is Library/Automator/Initiate Remote Broadcast.action/Contents/Resources/Scripts/main.scpt, which seems like something else. Hopefully that means they fixed it (if someone with an apple remote wants to run opensnoop and double-check that would be cool!)
Apologies if I misinterpret your comment, but aren't we arguing the same thing?
Custom ROM's for Android phones had this feature. You get to choose whether to allow once, allow all, deny once or deny all. I haven't used a custom ROM in a long time though so I don't know if they still have it.
Basically just assuming the worst intentions of most institutions large and small.
I never finished my degree, but I am an environmental studies major. I began decrying the horrifying stuff we are doing to our oceans many years before that was trendy, when it just made me an opinionated nutter.

But all my free grocery bags get reused as garbage bags. There is no ban on the sale of garbage bags. If I were not getting free grocery store bags, I would be buying small garbage bags and going through about the same number of plastic bags.

We have multiple islands of floating plastic in the ocean. IIRC, one is like the size of the state of Texas. The plastics problem for our oceans is quite serious. But it is hardly limited to plastic bags.

I don't know what the solution is, but I have lived without a car for at least a decade. I am walking the walk to the best of my ability in terms of living light on the land. I think the big picture choices I have made more than make up for whatever small conveniences I find are essential to keeping my quality of life high.
Convenience, I’d expect. Not everyone has the email addresses of all their friends, and email has limits on file sizes, etc.
I'd love to read up on spez blackmailing politicians, if you could please provide a link.
I find the idea that you shouldn't point out hypocrisy because it might trigger divisiveness, divisive. It stinks of a desire to shut down debate because it's not going the way you want.
Here, I'll address your EULA point, if you follow your own suggestion and respond to the "rant" I made which you walked right by:

"The alternative goes right to rules that prevent everyone (not just FB) from remembering things, and ultimately more censorship."
I, too, was in both special education and after two years of that, in the first implementation of the gifted program (also used an IQ test to filter) in my school system back in the 80's as a child. Was kind of apprehensive after the first special education experience. This does nothing for kids who have potential and don't IQ test well as kids.
They don’t get access to everything on your phone do they? As I remember (and this was years ago) they could ask for the photo dialogue to pop up and you could choose a photo but the app didn’t actually get access to all of them, only the ones you chose.
Why is the media acting like this is a new revelation? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/11/senator-ted-...
If you go to mbasic.facebook.com you'll get the low-end phone version, which allows messenger access.
If it's "free" and requires infrastructure you don't own that should be a big flashing clue.
Why? Why doesn’t the operating system do that for them? Why is it up to individual applications to decide whether or not they want to pause music with a phone call starts?
Sandstorm[1] has not been in news lately ever since they decided to stop their for-profit offerings. But it seems like a good base layer for people to host these apps.

[1]: https://www.sandstorm.io
"direct approach"

Which is? Decide for them?
Yes, I did all the time. Even the Obama campaign itself ran into them, and then Facebook explicitly removed them for their app to help them along.
There is the netpbm toolset:

http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/
I know you're joking but there is an approach that seems to salvage some of those kids.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-yo...
How GPUs are transforming the oil and gas industry
> You've moved the target. You said it was all PR, it isn't.

...when did I say that? What i've said, consistently, is that it's unclear from the evidence presented whether they targeted older workers, or whether they chose some legitimate axis along which to fire people that happens to correlate with age. Like high salaries, or lack of expertise in newer technologies.

You responded saying that their PR strategy is evidence that it was specifically about age. That's the only context in which PR has come up, and I still don't see how it proves or otherwise susbtantiates the connection.
For what it's worth, Fuchsia, the new OS Google is working on, is capability-based.
Similar things, few minutes ago I saw post on reddit essentially saying that while students were protesting gun laws Trump was golfing and Pence posted on Twitter about a movie. This probably is true, but that post is essentially to push people's buttons.
Then They Came for the Globalists
That's what crypto currency-based distributed media systems are for. Examples: STEEMIT, STORJ, TRX, etc. There is no central authority who has the power to censor content as they please. I don't know which of those (or if there exists one which) would be appropriate for porn, but there probably is one. If anybody knows please let me know.
From a technical sense it's not. If an app can read data, and an app has Internet access, it can send that data to it's server, and there's nothing your OS can really do about it if it is letting the app run arbitrary code.
FTA...

Thanks to social media, the internet had apparently
decentralised power. In the old days, information was
passed down from the mountain top – by a government, say,
or a news organisation – to the crowd below. Now the crowd
could speak to each other and to the world. At least one
aspect of the techno-utopians’ early hopes seemed to have
materialised.

And it’s that hope that Cambridge Analytica has shattered.
For what we now understand is that those at the top, the
political parties or governments that could afford it, have
been engaged in a radical act of recentralising power. They
saw the way social media was working, empowering
individuals and networks of individuals, and they decided
to grab those same weapons for themselves.

I find it hard to swallow this piece since the data was collected before "any of the early hopes seemed to have materialised". If social media is responsible for negatively impacting a US foreign policy adversary, that's no fluke. The only difference between pre-CA and now is Trump.
Is this an Ad on the Hacker News Home Page?
But to add: Many of the "full stack" engineers on this site can probably write a clone of the early Craigslist or Facebook as a solo developer. They could even administer it through early growth. How many business are left that are that simple?

Back then, websites scaled more slowly, there were no mobile clients, and simple UI was fine. We could cut corners by mixing php, html, and SQL into a single file; but if you do that today you won't go much further than a hackathon.

Now you need a web site, API, mobile apps on both Android and iPhone, and maybe a desktop app. Tolerance of bugs is lower, so developers need to spend more time writing automated tests. The "web site" might be a mix of an in-house app, crm, blog, Facebook page, ect. No "full stack" developer can do all that in any reasonable time.
> There can be malice, but I think this is mostly akin to the idea of "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" only substitute ignorance for stupidity.

The history of the "war on drugs" is fraught with racism, there's no need to assume malice - it's quite well documented.

Crusades against other vices like prostitution and alcohol have often had religious or other motivations of "purity" behind them, the same thing with nicotine. One could argue excessive alcohol consumption and smoking are of course genuine public health issues as well, but while the anti-smoking movement started with mostly good intentions you can see the "dirty smoker" sentiment that's developed when raising taxes on tobacco products has been a decent way to generate tax revenue in a way that mostly targets the poor without raising suspicion or ire from the public.

The road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions, but often those good intentions are extremely thin veils over supposed moral superiority.
Epidemiological modeling of online social network dynamics (2014)
Reading that account on Erowid was downright distressing.

Iirc, BZ was created following "failures" in the MKULTRA experiments.

Scary times.
Android is a decade old. Our expectations of what apps would and wouldn't do, and would and wouldn't be capable of doing has changed. Back when the apps on my phone were in the range of being 400 KB to 600 KB, I don't think people even fathomed the complexity and power our devices are at right now, and their ability to secretly handle ever increasing amounts of our personal data without having a meaningful impact on device performance.
Same for me.

But then, no Google account or cookies for me, so ...
I created a whole project for this!

https://github.com/franciscop/drive-db

Since you can also hook a Google Form to a spreadsheet, you can do surprisingly advanced things over there.
Despite some questionable uses of that word, I have to admit that it's a useful classifier for what has essentially become a consolidated political movement.

Everyone seems to know the ideology it's describing when they hear it, and I don't know of another term that does that.

On another tangent: "SJW" was originally coined by social justice warriors as a way to describe themselves. It only became an offensive word once people started lampooning it, but it's still a fair term to use given its history and original intent.
I’m not saying that regulatory environment doesn’t contribute, but the monetary aspect has an amplifying effect.

Germany’s trade surplus wouldn’t be able to be anywhere near as large without the rest of Western Europe pulling down the Euro exchange rate, and unemployment in the trade deficit countries likely wouldn’t be anywhere near as high without (from their perspective) Germany pulling the exchange rate high.
No, permissions were done in a substantially more granular way on iOS from the beginning of permissions. Contacts, photos, location, notifications all with their own permission request API to be fired at will.

Android started off with a blanket permission screen required to even install an app — all or nothing.
In terms of health and longevity, I suspect the vast majority of the benefit is in just not being sedentary and not eating all of the cake. Nearly all of the very old people I know have had the habit of taking long walks, but I cannot think of any who were athletes.
Now where is the reddit alternative?
Discover vs Colonize is what's being referred to a Eurocentric.