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> Does anyone know why they don't do this? Or know of examples where they do do this?

Just about any capital-intensive industry cooperates. Your computer is made by any one of a few dozen companies; open it up and you'll see a bunch of parts made by suppliers. Open up a computer made by a competitor and you will see that most of the parts come from the very same suppliers.

The auto industry is both the same and different. I worked for an automotive electronics company in college. We'd get a binder full of specification in Japanese or German or French, translate it to English, and run the validation on the same part that went into a Ford or GM car, but with a few changes to the firmware to satisfy the differences in specifications. Most of the time, these things went out the door with no labels so the companies could put on their own.

Then there is collaboration between the automakers themselves. The new 10-speed transmission in Ford and GM trucks is a joint venture between the two. For decades, all automatic transmissions in BMWs came directly from GM. The new Mercedes Benz pickup truck is based on a Nissan. The upcoming Toyota Supra was joint developed with BMW. The new Diesel engines in Fords are co-developed with PSA. It goes on and on...
i drive a bike to work, in any weather.

the last ~200m of my commute is at the "wrong" side of the road, so the cars are driving into my direction. I generally drive especially slow there. The sidewalk is pretty broad and its incredibly rare that even a single person walks there, but it just want to be careful.

when it rains, i need to dismount from my bike, as i'm unable to see anything on the sidewalk/cycle lane. seriously dangerous.
Funnily enough, I was born in Port Lincoln. Been in Adelaide since.

My father owned a rifle for a time when I was young, but sold it probably 30 years ago. One member of my wife's family has what would be considered a hobby farm and recently bought a rifle for shooting pests. Outside of that, I'm not aware of another gun owner amongst friends and acquaintances.
As I said I was developing Facebook apps back in 2011 and at this time as far as I remember, your friends list was publicly available to any logged in user. API was only making this easier for apps to fetch the data about you. There was an explicit permission about accessing friends list and their data through the API so yes, any of your friend at that time could just give away your profile to a third party.

I stopped using Facebook back in 2011 (only used it to manage and test my apps) as I was really concerned how easy is to collect personal data.

But I guess for me, as a developer, it is easy to imagine how things works and when to get suspicious online.

On the other hand it makes me really happy, Facebook privacy issues like this one with CA, got much attention and finally more people, hopefully, will understand how things works.
No systemd, so [...] you can't do much DevOps on Void Linux

How so? How is DevOps linked or dependent on systemd in your view? Personally, I find systemd gets in the way of devops.
That Unix is the roadster that gave us c. But Linux was the one that drove c into our core operating system infrastructure. Windows did the same favor for c++.

One of the reasons why other languages failed? While c/c++ flourished in the oss environment, even with its tooling being sub-par at the time. imo.
Nissan is the Hebrew name for the current month (Hebrew calendar, first month of the spring, usually falls on March/April).

I think it is first mentioned in the Bible, the old testament, Nehemiah, Chapter 2:1

"And it came to pass in the month Nissan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes
the king, that wine was before him: and I took up the wine, and gave it unto
the king. Now I had not been beforetime sad in his presence."

So, sure enough, his ancestors owned the name "Nissan" much before car maker was founded.
You should try the KDE Neon distro. It uses Ubuntu LTS as a base and adds the latest and greatest KDE release on top.
> READ

It says read, not steal and keep in their own servers.
SNI is still in plain text :( They could just hash the SNI and do matching based on hashes.
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Do anyone except Elementary OS users use Pantheon? Seem extremely niche. There's other DEs missing too, like Budgie, XMonad etc., but nobody's complaining because the focus is on the most popular ones.

Anyway, I really hope something like Budgie or Pantheon takes over Gnome though... distro integrators seem to prefer GTK-based DEs almost exclusively nowadays (probably have their reasons), but the flagship GTK DE Gnome 3 is not something you can recommend to anyone doing anything other than "sysadmin + coding" work, and even some of us developers are not that fond of it...
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Although MATE does not technically use GTK2 now, but it is pretty good in sticking with the look and feel of a traditional customization desktop. I pretty much recommend Ubuntu MATE
Do you have a source on the exemption of the data:permission limit being lifted for them? Given the soft run at quote mining in your earlier post, I’d feel more comfortable if your core assertion was verifiable.
Which is easier said than done. All it takes is one slip up for your hard work to be undone. One tiny mistake.

Advertisers are looking to de-annoymise you, three letter agencies are trying to de-annoymise you and all it takes is one minor slip upper being too unique (i.e. your combination of web browser, addons, screen size, IP address, etc).

It is almost impossible for a regular user to be anonymous, to have good opsec, for extended periods of time.
It's not a matter of understanding. It's matter of, among other things, not allowing a friend to give away your data without your permission. I really don't understand how you cannot see that this is not a matter of 'understanding how things work' and instead a matter we can and should be pretty mad about...
It’s actually quite funny seeing as America stands out as having a large proportion of deeply religious people.
So.. How exactly is "regulation" currently stymieing competitors to Facebook and Google with better privacy protections?

Because I can think of quite a lot of reasons not to start a search engine or social network. Yet "regulation" is nowhere on that list, because I can't think of a single one that warrants any concern compared to the technical and market challenges.

Take DuckDuckGo as one example of a privacy-focused competitor to the behemoths: Are they loudly complaining that they'd long have dethroned google with their better privacy protections if only regulation X wasn't stopping them?

Your list also doesn't make any sense. Computers, entertainment and software seem to be about as regulated as online platforms, in that I can once again not think of any serious regulation in the US that would stop me from making a movie.

Pharmaceuticals are generally accepted to be among the most regulated products. Yet I would rate their progress to be somewhat comparable to that of "entertainment". Which isn't really a comparison that makes any sense, but if you can just wing it so can I.

It's quite obvious that the vast majority of people think it's a bad idea for political parties to have access to the photos they posted on Facebook just because one of their friends took some quiz. Why, then, should we believe in the magic of the market to find a solution to this clear interest, when we can also avail ourselves of the mechanism invented to solve such collective action problems, namely government? What are the possible downsides to banning invasive advertisement and data analytics by political campaigns, except a mild loss in revenue for the platforms, and whatever loss the campaigns suffer from no longer knowing my sexual orientation?
Neither scares me in any way whatsoever. What does scare me are those who use Facebook as their source of information for how to run their lives.
Well IOS copied a lot more FROM Android than vice-versa but I got what you mean.
At least on iOS, you can get around this by copying/pasting the photo instead of using the sharing UI.
The problem is that an intelligence test can be a double edged sword. Cuts both ways.

First because some of those tests were not really smart in retrospective: False positives tagged as stupid that maybe just had a bad day or did not understood the questions by cultural reasons. Some years after, unsurprisingly, there is not any correlation between the results of the test and the success of this men and women.

And worse, because being tagged as a gifted guy can be a curse. Is an unforgivable sin in some societies. People will start acting resentful and treating you as if you were martian or a danger to them. Is really, really, annoying.
I'm really confused by the whole anti Facebook thing. Agree they messed up on privacy, but calling them evil, useless, etc seems over the top. I like FB and find it useful and don't care if somebody has my public profile data, since its public already
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The behavior you described is a) merely annoying and easy to curb and b) far from omnipresent. OPs quote was about censorship enforced by state. I don't see how this is even remotely same caliber.
Your comment is true but it doesn't contradict my point in any way. Of course it's propaganda. But you're still an adult who is fully responsible for your actions.

Also, people are much more rational than economists give them credit for. You don't need a new car for transportation. But you may need a psychological boost of self-respect. You may need to feel like those people from the commercial. You may need social status, validation, a lot of other tangible things that economists and software engineers are so quick to label as "stupid"; and buying the car for those reasons is often a very rational and wise thing to do, even if you don't admit the real reasons to yourself.
I don't understand, what can't DevOps do much without systemd where most of the DevOps culture involving around automations?
The problem with ending it at death is that it gives an incentive to kill the author if you want to rip off their work. The 14+14 (as it originally was) is what I think it should be.
You can scroll through /bin, /usr/bin/ and /usr/local/bin/ and find all the included basic tools and then read "man 'tool'" or google for it
It's just kind of a false choice. I use FB to keep in touch and chat with friends, find out about local events, follow various interesting people, etc. google tried to do the same thing with Google Plus and failed. But I certainly don't feel manipulated by FB, I feel they are providing me with a useful service.
I'm a little concerned with this type of posts. I understand there are other companies just as bad or maybe even worse than Facebook, but shouldn't we focus on them one at a time?

This type of articles tend to have the tone of "hey everyone does this, so maybe what FB is doing isn't so bad?"

That's a mistake and it's misleading. There is a reason The Guardian published Snowden's stories one at a time. People can't get mad at everything all at once. They get into analysis paralysis. Let's fix the issue with Facebook. Then once that's done, we can move on to Google. And then once that's done we can move on to the ISPs, and so on.

But if we throw this "the whole world is terrible and every company is bad" story at people, they aren't going to do anything.
Then they came for something I cared about and I went to the video sharing website the gun and porn people set up.

This isn't government oppression, there will be alternates to the services offered.
> Google encourages developers to use the Play Services SDK for location services. This means that it is impossible to provide your location to just one app (say, Lyft) without also providing it to Google. [2]

This is a straight up lie. Yes, Google encourages fused location because it provides better experience (it bootstraps location via cell towers / bluetooth / wifi which requires data from Google servers). However it does NOT make it "impossible" to directly request data from location services on the phone which DOES NOT go through Google servers.

Please don't lie.

> For example, Apple Maps doesn't have a sign-in, and its server requests are associated with randomized rotating IDs, not your user account. Directions are broken up into multiple segments with different identifiers so that Apple can't reconstruct your trip.

Apple location services use pretty much the exact same system to provide fused location - they still call back to Apple servers to request information about your neighbouring wifis / cell towers which leaks your location to their cloud as well. Plus, Apple will sell out iCloud data of their customers to Chinese government (which makes me wonder if they're selling it out to NSA as well).
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He could have recommended Privacy Badger [1] so that his readers can block all of the data that The Guardian sends to Facebook and Google about which articles they are reading.

1. https://www.eff.org/privacybadger
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I feel like you're stuck in a job where people don't appreciate what you do. I'd either go look for a better work environment or make one myself by starting my own business if I were you.
I love KDE and have used it for about the same amount of time and I agree with you that PIM really is the weak point.

The other apps are generally excellent or good enough you don't notice them, which is exactly what I want from desktop.
In terms of user base, Pantheon & Budgie may seem to be a joke. But they are being very actively developed, with lots of innovation and creativity.
High tech may come to the rescue. Mercedes already sells cars with multi-beam headlights that try to prevent blinding others (https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/innovation/mu...), and has announced what essentially are powerful DLP video projectors that would go much farther (https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-benz-digital-lig...)
In Germany we had the case of Dr. Andreas Shell who spent five years fighting Shell oil company.
He had registered shell.de and used it primarily as a family website but also offered a translation service [1].

The case went to the Federal Court of Justice (German: Bundesgerichtshof, BGH), the hightest court in the system of ordinary jurisdiction in Germany. Andres Shell lost and the reasoning was that the "First Come, First Served Principle" can be overruled by the "Priority Principle", which says that the better known party has priority.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/19980204065557/http://www.shell....
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This is not practically useful advice.
Nixos was on my list as well, but I never got to try it out properly since void linux won me over.

I'm still using arch as well, but I guess I always try to choose the right distro for my use case.

But I think I will give nixos a spin again some time. I like the idea of the package manager very much
Yes, it's time. But notice how everytime there is talk about a decentralized project, some of the comments are like "so how will this censor child porn or copyright infringement on the network" or similar.

Decentralized projects will have to resist the urge to listen to these people, because otherwise they shouldn't even bother if the decentralized projects will have built-in censorship mechanisms.

Law enforcement should go straight after the criminals, not after the platforms, just like when they go straight after the people publishing child porn on the Tor network, not after the Tor browser. That's how it should work.
That is exactly my question. OP appears to take the position that not having systemd somehow gets in the way of doing DevOps, which to me sounds like bullshit, and I asked for some more info. Instead of engaging in a discussion, I got downvoted though, so I guess it was "the wrong question", or "I didn't ask in the right tone of voice". This place reminds me of my ex-wife.
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Fedora also has an excellent KDE version in my opinion.
GDPR goes live in a couple of months. After that, a $1.6b fine waits facebook if all they do is "simply set a isDeleted=true flag in a database"
Do you really think that the average user understand that the permission list instead of saying "I need to access your friend's list so I can work" it actually says "I need to download all your data and if you do not agree I will refuse to install/work"?
And do you think this is reasonable?
> gay people can marry

That happened like in the past few years, which is a tiny fraction of the past 2 centuries. And if extremist Republicans get to rule the government for another decade (whether directly or with the help of "moderate Democrats"), then I don't know if that will last either.
Noted. Didn’t know that was the case. Fle some reason, I imagined that it being open source would have meant a lot of outside involvement.
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I found the question interesting as well especially since the original post mentions how michael works on void and distributimg it with ansible (many of the things he mentioned sound like devops to me)
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Facebook and Google were not the first social network and search engine, respectively. And still they won the market, dethroning established players.

I know it's not very intuitive, but free markets and competition work. Unless your freeze them with (usually brain-dead) regulations.

Governments have a role, of course, but when you call them to solve everything, to protect us from ourselves and you give them every power imaginable - you are creating a monster.

A monster which will step on every right you thought you had and take anything they want from you "for your own good".
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I'm pretty sure every KDE 5 version of Plasma has a memory leak somewhere, but it seems like tracking it down would probably be hell.
So? Let them be confused and frustrated. The world's not going to end. Big corporations have enough advantages without giving them rights that ordinary folk don't have.

Say that I am a mediocre violin player. But I happen to own a rare Stradivarius. A rich and successful violinist writes to me and asks to buy my violin. I refuse his offer. So he sues me, and says to the court that because he is so famous and so technically adept, the violin should rightfully belong to him. Is that fair?
It's the internet. Why is it so hard to move your website to a different jurisdiction?
Nobody cares about ETA at this point.

The patents and registered designs of ETA movements have expired. You can buy exact clones of ETA movements legally.

ETA clones by Sellita and Soprod are said to be better than the original. Sea-Gull (and other Chinese) aren't bad either. Especially for the price...
In my current project we get moved around teams on a monthly (!) basis. The heat loss generated is so enormous you start to feel like you are in a powerplant.
It seems to me that "Voted best DE" in the article is more like "Has more users that are willing to vote for their preference" than "Evaluated different DEs based on X criteria and Y seems best" so the DE with the largest user base is equal to the best one, at least as I understand the article.

Then I agree with you, tiling managers are probably way more productive and better than every single on of those DE, but it's about the amount of users, not the one with most innovation or creativity.
'Sorry Mr NSA, but the user choose German as UI language, so we only enabled the German backdoor'.

Sure...
I dont understand your frustration, user clearly doesnt want to give you camera access, leave him alone.
Hey thx for the detailed answer. Thought that it might work like this.

How hard would it be to replace the electron frontend with something else? I was thinking about replacing it with some of my solutions I already use, but with your rust backend.
I almost agree, just not quite regarding how it went.

C++ was already being adopted by all desktop systems, Mac, OS/2, Windows, even if at lower level it was a mix of Pascal (Mac) and C.

On proprietary UNIX systems, C++ major stronghold was CORBA based applications, while some companies were pushing C++ bindings for Motif.

Then GNU and Linux happened, with FSF suggesting that the best approach to write portable open source should be C, and then we arrived in the present situation.
"Totally configurable, which is ESSENTIAL for new users who want their Linux desktop configured to emulate the exact rendering of Windows (XP or 7)"

Funny argument after Windows 8. So KDE gets marketed as ressort for confused windows xp users?

I enjoyed customizing my workspace for years. Now I use gnome shell, I relax and don't waste brain cycles on irrelevant stuff like which icons show up here or there. I don't use my desktop to do work or anything meaningful.
Copyright is a menace to the society. Authors should maybe have a right on their work similar to what 2-clause BSD licence gives: if you reuse or distribute this, mention me please. The complex web of influences on each word spoken and each gesture made, let aside artworks altogether, is so complex that a consistent and just enforcement of copyright is just impossible. It serves no other purpose than making some companies and some greedy agents like the suers here rich, exploiting artists worldwide.
you can't do much DevOps on Void Linux

Why is that ???
Permissions are not long contracts, they fit in a single sentence. My super obvious suggestion further simplifies it. There's no reason a dep tree cant be made. The "people are too X" does not work.
"We've known for years that tech companies have made their money off collecting data... The general public never cared before. "

I think the phrase "limited world view" applies to this quote.
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I think that’s an important point. Back then Facebook was more of a toy, a fun thing. “I don’t use it for anything serious, so it doesn’t matter”
By being friend with someone on Facebook you already make your data available to this friend. Your friend can show this data to anyone curious about you by showing his screen or by talking about what he saw on your profile.

An app on Facebook is only an automated way to ask your friend to share data he/she has access to. You cannot both share data with your friend and expect him/her to not be able to share it with 3rd parties.

If you don't want your friends to be able to share your data you don't become friends with them on a social network and/or you don't share data with them.

You don't tell to your acquaintances things you don't trust them to keep secret. And you can't expect them to keep secret things you share with every acquaintance
Violence against women, misogynistic, neurotic homophobic society; the LGBT against racism and all this...then guess what: demand for blue eyed, white skin men sperm is skyrocketing. Somethings will never change, it's sad!
We had someone do that, then brag about it during end-of-the-year reviews. The managers were quite upset that the person had spent valuable time working on things that not only hadn't been assigned to them, but also hadn't been brought into the process for scheduling them or even brought to the attention of anyone else in IT.

So no, it's not hard to blame someone for working on the wrong things when they should have been working on something else.
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Are you claiming that there is no dep tree to be made? That's trivially false if so. Feeding apps fake data (for example to make them work with no data perms) has been suggested too many times to count.
That doesn't seem like a real concern.