skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Only way to see it was to boot an offending intern from his work station and go into his Slack to see what was happening.

Why couldn't you just ask the recipient to look on his station?

> We had to make all intern accounts into multi-channel guests after that

Are 2 interns ever allowed to be alone together? I mean it's essentially the same, you are saying they can't be trusted so either you always need them in groups of 3, or you should put cameras everywhere with microphones...

I am glad that you are serious about tackling abuse, but more monitoring and rules about congregation are not the right solution imo.
I concur that we generally agree on the facts. We seem to have different interpretations of what those facts imply, though. This comment I disagree with:

“Regardless it's definitely not the case that the GPL just magically infects any code it touches. That is a ridiculous simplification that is mostly spread by ignorance or those spreading FUD.”

The GPL does infect the code it touches. If you link your proprietary software to GPL software, now and forever the binaries you produced with that linking are “tainted”. You distribute the source under the GPL or you do not distribute those binaries (or you violate the law). You can certainly back out the offending change and future binaries will clean and clear, but the GPL does, by design, force the choice between copyright violation and opening up proprietary software. It does not, however, perpetually “taint” source that touched it in the past and anyone who thinks it does is misinformed.

The characterization as viral/infectious remains reasonable, though, given the intent and the legal implications.
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I still prefer IRC, it irked me when my favorite sysadmin channel moved from freenode to slack.
No it isn't. They would own the IRC server and see everything.
Ignoring opportunity cost, of course.
> Since the email to each slack user is an @company.com address

Not necessarily
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> I have signed agreements where anything I do on the company laptop is considered theres. So I just made sure to only use it for work, and put nothing else on it.

That is (or should be) pretty standard both on the company's part and on yours. As someone who spends chunks of his days as an IT admin for clients, work systems should be used for work, personal devices should be personal devices and in addition should not be allowed connection to company/internal wifi.

I'm sure that "you" are the most brilliant and secure flower in the field, but if we don't have and enforce policies against personal use then it gets harder to crack down on Boris in the mailroom who wants to check his personal email on Yandex and download every elf bowling attachment that gets sent his way.
I would go as far as to say that any expensive hobby would take 2 weeks of someone's yearly salary. This could be music (listening or making), golf, photography, painting, Blurays... Tons of things.
As a company policy I sure hope your IT doesn't make emails available to your management.
I don't know about Facebook, but Google is under pressure to reduce traffic from employee commutes. There's a cap on traffic in North Bayshore, and if some employees walk to work, there's less traffic.

I imagine Facebook has similar considerations. Housing and traffic are major issues in Silicon Valley.
I'm looking for one of these 'mirror SFDC (or Zendesk) to Postgres' solutions. No fancy integrations/automated workflows: just back up a Salesforce CRM to Postgres at least every 15 minutes. Fivetran has seemed to be the best fit for this simple use case. Is there an alternative you recommend?
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People speculate wildly but what is this really 1) utopian attempt or 2) new form of paternalism, or 3) just practical way to solve housing crisis for employers.

1) Walt Disney tried utopian with Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow (EPCOT)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPCOT_(concept) The property became the Walt Disney World Resort but some of the architecture is from the EPCOT concept. Later Michael Eisner tried something similar with Celebration, Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebration,_Florida

2) Traditional paternialism was social engineering attempt where employers wanted to control their workers force middle-class ideals to working-class. It was seen as moral and religious responsibility for owners to do this. Company Towns were build to achieve this goal. Modern version might push certain lifestyle and values.

3) Zucktown and Alphabet City may be just a realization that it's cheaper and easier for everyone if employers turns into property developer and builds housing than just increase wages.
Completely agree. Just another example of people over reacting. The other fun part is people trying to explain how it was okay back in '12, but now it's a tragedy.
`whyever` said _end-to-end_ encrypted, presumably meaning "between the intended recipient and I," not "between a middleman and I."

Of course, you also need to trust your hardware.
This announcement is interesting but it's unfortunate that the visual balance in the first rendered image is troubled.

In particular, the uppercase "N", the lowercase "e", and the lowercase "t" do not harmonize. The kerning between the "N" and the "e" needs tweaking.

This imbalance is especially noticeable because the balance between the characters "tflix" is magnificent, a small textual portrait practically worth framing on its own.
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I had a work acquaintance a couple years ago whose brother was on a mission trip... to California. It was considered one of the most difficult regions to work. The Jehova's witnesses and/or Mormons that famously knock on everyone's door? They're on missions in the first world. So the very religious have been doing missions in the first world for a while.
FB isn't a life or death service and neither is any social media for that matter. I think we sometimes seem to forget that the world existed and did rather well before the FB ad network made it's debut. At the end of the day that's what FB is. It's a large media company/platform that sells ads. Don't ever forget that. I can chose to not use FB and none of my fundamental rights as a human being are being hurt. Comparing FB and health care is disingenuous. I need health care to survive whether I like it or not. HIPAA exists to prevent the for profit medical and medical insurance model from taking advantage of it's patients privacy, because otherwise they would since patients have no choice but to go to a doctor, and provide lots of detailed personal information to their hospitals, insurance and other health care practitioners.
Why? Users are Facebook's product, I don't understand how what happened is a surprise to anyone!
It isn't just Facebook that collects this data and allows others to use it - it's the business model for dozens of other organisations including Google.
Two people quitting one organisation won't make much of a change but governments banding together to create legislation to better protect users would; however unlikely that is to happen.
Be happy to forward it to you but the issue is moot now, the deal fell through. But I don't recall any other text that influenced this clause, it was just a paranoid expression of their IP as far as I could see.

So that second part: you say "if you disclose work to another individual"...which work would that be? Work that I performed for another employer after termination from the first? Or is that overthinking, and it means work performed for the employer but disclosed after the fact?

I had an ambiguous read about this, which is what threw up the red flags.
The fairness doctrine enforces two sides of view, aligning nicely with two parties. But, most issues don't have two sides. Some have three, four, or five and some have just one side. The fairness doctrine is gone because it wasn't good, not because of some conspiracy around money and speech.
This looks like an amazing tool. As someone who often uses courses that have premade notes but highly limited exercise and quiz material, this looks like a serious blessing (assuming it works). Thanks!
It's so bizarre there must be some mistake. Does this do significantly more than AWS Cognito which free for the first 50k users? https://aws.amazon.com/cognito/

This price point doesn't make sense outside of the niche SaaS offerings that can charge in the thousands per month.
Not to be contrarian here, but could you offer a solution given that you've thought about this?
what about, lets say, conversations in the company owned cafeteria? can the employer record them without your consent and use as evidence against you?
It is a known fact that human societies degrade to chaos when religion is not present in the day to day affairs </irony>.

You only have to look at USA where religion is very present vs Czech Republic, in which one do you think there are more mass shootings per capita? If you want my 2 cents, religion has nothing to do with societal dysfunction, there has to be something else.
It's not just inventions, though. The phrase is:

invention, discovery or item of intellectual property

The "item of intellectual property" would cover copyrighted material, right?

Seems way unenforceable to me, but IANAL.
The announcement email says "As part of our growth and in support of upcoming changes to EU data protection law, we’re launching new tools and features and updating our Privacy Policy and User Terms."
I find I use Waze far less frequently or only for the last leg of the trip to find a nearby parking lot; Judging by the lack of fresh reports for road issues or speed traps, I'd say more folks might also be using other products. Their ads are also annoying esp when you are navigating your last leg of the trip and need to concentrate and it shows irrelevant ads.
What's unfortunate about Directus and Cockpit, is they still have a hard dependency on a PHP.

If I'm going headless, the last thing I want to do is setup a PHP stack.
to quote King David,

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."

what's your point?
For companies, yeah, this makes sense. It was nice when this wasn't true, but never really expected nor required.

Unfortunately, Slack also gets used for a lot of OSS communities. Arguably this was already a poor fit, but now it's even more obviously a mismatched relationship; it's unclear whether one could just start paying for a Slack account and immediately pull all DM history for something that didn't come with the expectation of corporate ownership.

#freenodeforlyfe, I suppose.
Even in this thread, you can see more of the same insecurities. I personally think the Kübler-Ross model of grief is a surprisingly accurate model of this phenomenon.

In general, I think we're still in the denial/anger phase, with a trend towards the latter. You can literally feel the seething anger just reading some of the comments here.
If the employer wants the NDA to be part of the agreement, they should include it in the conditions of the employment contract.

If they offer me a separate contract to sign for their non-disclosure terms and I agree neither verbally nor in ink, I think it's a stretch to call it a misrepresentation of my position. Given that this type of contract usually offers absolutely nothing in exchange, it would be more reasonable to assume that I don't agree, if I don't sign it or express agreement otherwise.

Also IANAL, but at the very least I don't think that this is unethical.
I worked for a company in field A. They were bought by a PE firm and we were all given three days or out to sign an NDA. I signed. FF a short period of time and I'm negotiating employment at a firm that did work in field B. They had a subsidiary someplace else that happened to do similar work in field A. New company had to have their lawyers draft a letter saying I was not going to work with the subsidiary for the remainder of my NDA before I was officially hired.

New company could easily have just walked away from the deal costing us all a good deal of time. Luckily they really wanted to hire me and didn't.

NDAs are toxic. Don't encourage anyone to sign one.
As a basic user of the platform (where my employer has Slack Enterprise Grid), I've always expected this is the case and planned my communication accordingly.
This was in a documentation package presented to me as part of a job offer, so it was easy to walk away from.
> These days, a priest should discuss the implications of many-worlds interpretation of quantum theory

So basically you want to replace Christianity with scientism? Let’s not - at least right now it’s still relatively easy to tell religion and quackery apart from, say, particle physics. Priests aren’t qualified to talk about the implications of hypothetical quantum models (and probably neither are you).

> the "Brave new world" with full freedom for everyone is not exactly cozy for the dim-witted ones

Of course, the only reason someone could like a stable, well-functioning, painstakingly evolved social model is because they’re stupid... I’m also curious why you would describe the world today as “full freedom for everyone”; that certainly doesn’t match my experience, unless your definition of “freedom” is very selective.
We don't know what the services would look like without a real name policy.
You seem to be applying US legal concepts, when the question was about the GDPR, an EU directive.
It seems like this requires Slack Plus and not just the Standard plan. It's not clear to me if you can access all historical data immediately after upgrading to Plus, though.
Yes, employers getting people to sign away everything they do after their employment is definitely a sign of them getting the shorter end of the stick...
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>If a fully featured app or service is free, then you are the product.

Depends on the business model. Wikipedia, for example, is a non-profit.

You can also theoretically have a public benefit corporation that is structured to protect data privacy, but I don't know of any.
The agreement explicitly says "or item of intellectual property". It's absurd.
Yup. In Austin, churches are closing left and right due to endlessly rising property taxes. Want to know what one of them is being converted into? A co-working space.
I think that if you still have Windows Server 2003 boxes (for which the official support ended 3 years ago) being stuck with Java 8 is the least of your problems...
> Let's clarify a bit, this is for the employer owned Slack workspace.

My company doesn't use slack, but it is a little crazy to me that this wasn't already the case for employer-owned workspaces.
Depends on the state I would assume, but of course IANAL. Some states have single party consent, and you're certainly not in a private area. You'd have to look into the eavesdropping laws where you live. You realize that many buildings have security cameras, right?

I'm still very confused as to why you believe that your communications over a company owned platform should/would be private.
they don't however, need to provide a warrant for their own apartment. that's effectively what slack is implementing, it does not mean that they can go through your personal slack setups.
just fyi, any application that is provided by your employer is theirs and most likely in your contract is that everything you say or write is their own property.

if your mobile is paid for by your employer, they have access to anything on that as well, this include texts, mms, and call logs.
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>> One interesting question, which will only begin to be answered in the next several decades, is whether the rates of religious adherence within these European countries correlate with anything. For instance, do countries with low religious adherence have any sort of markedly different character or outcomes than countries with high religious adherence?

>I'm not up on all the research that's been done, but we already have data on this. It's not hard to get - it's just comparing degrees of religious following with stats on things like crime, teen pregnancies etc.

I think the real interesting thing is the possibilities for looking at new metrics. Beyond the things you mentioned, perhaps we'll be able to see religious adherence correlated with social network; with types of media; with general demeanor; with professionalism or job success. Just to name a few. I only comment to point out that there may be many new correlations to be observed.
Your employer owns the data, not you. The owner of something doesn't need special permission to look at it. It could be a company provided computer, email, or filing cabinet; they all belong to your work and they do not need to ask anyone to get in and look at the contents.

Even something that has a reasonable expectation of only containing personal belongings (eg. a locker) may or may not be protected from employer search as each state in the US has slightly different rules.

For work related tools, the rules are almost entirely stacked towards having no right to privacy whether a company policy exists or not.
The report the data is taken from: https://www.stmarys.ac.uk/research/centres/benedict-xvi/docs...
A lot of folks in Hackernews have interest in security relevant topics also - Its one of the reasons I am here, so I appreciate quickly reading this and move on. Its a good indicator that HN is the right community for me. :)
That's easy to disprove, though. Make them log into their slack on a new computer, and they'll have no opportunity to doctor them.
Yeah that pretty much sums it up for me as well in the Netherlands. Religion united communities in the past, and without it we are at risk of becoming lonely and isolated. But of course you can't just decide to believe in whatever god(s) your local place of worship subscribes to in order to maintain the community — you'd be living a lie. And lets face it: getting rid of religion (i.e., whatever your parents subscribed to) as a pretty much required facet of your life is for the most part, good. Especially if you consider the intolerance and arbitrary rules (and the waste of a perfectly fine Sunday morning).
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Did you miss his first (the second) paragraph?
You can do it with both, actually. Light field data allows you to simulate different viewing angles of the same scene. Depending on the sensor quality you can use this to "see around" objects which occlude the scene from a specific angle (like if you view the image from the center of the field of view). Some limitations, of course, similar to stereoscopic imagery.

Using stereoscopic as an example, you can synthesize a 2d image with the center being between the two sensors. The further apart you place the sensors, up to some limit, the more you can "rotate" the scene. But you lose a lot of data when the viewing angles become too extreme. A light field image can be used for the same effect, but because it's one sensor your ability to rotate the scene will be constrained (as if you had two sensors very close together).

Apparently the examples I saw years ago on Lytro's site aren't available anymore. It was a neat effect with their initial camera, I imagine higher quality cameras could do much more.

A neat thing with light field sensors versus stereoscopic is that you have far more freedom in how you move around the scene. With two sensors you can only move "left and right" or "up and down". With light field data and one sensor you can move in any direction.
> religion has nothing to do with societal dysfunction, there has to be something else.

you claim this, and yet compare 2 wildly different soscieties and use a single statistic as a moral indicator..

not arguing for or against here (though I do have my bias); but your argument is not very complete/cohesive either way.
Relatedly, I have been reading an enlightening book: The Triumph of Christianity [0]. It's a very interesting insight into why Christianity took over Europe in the first place. One of the points made is that paganism was a loose confederation of religions that didn't demand exclusivity. Christianity was an evangelical, exclusivist religion which provides a full alternative world view. However, the early Christians, the author alleges, were less educated and oppressed (non intellectuals ).

While it may be good that Europe is going secular, I think without a strong, exclusivist moral ideology at the center, Europe will be susceptible to an Evangelical exclusivist ideology (Christinity 2.0). Or, as the book highlights, perhaps the population should be a lot more educated (which Europe seems to be doing well) and this education level sustained across generations.

> In the UK, only 7% of young adults identify as Anglican, fewer than the 10% who categorise themselves as Catholic. Young Muslims, at 6%, are on the brink of overtaking those who consider themselves part of the country’s established church.

Islam is an Evangelical exclusivist ideology and has strong state backings today. Billions of dollars are used by Islamic states to evangelize the religion. I don't think Christianity has done that in a 100 years or so. If the younger generation is more Muslim than Christian, and the majority is without an exclusivist ideology, and state backed evangelism continues, it will be interesting to see how, over generations, Muslim ideology becomes more mainstream.

As a secular humanist, former Muslim, I hope we actually establish secular humanism with religious frevor (make it the state ideology) to make sure human rights and human progress is sustained.

[0] https://www.npr.org/2018/03/20/595161200/author-traces-chris...
The reason I was initially thinking of was that a dash cam with multi focal distances could provide a way to see a dash vid from multi perspectives - and basically make a single dash cam “seem” like many individual cams where you can get the focal clarity of distance from more than one perspective? Else, my understanding of the lytro tech is false.
That sentiment feels... misguided? The EU is an economic and ideological construct, certainly not religious. The fact that some key figures were deeply religious is completely orthogonal to that. Ie France has been deeply secular since the late 1800s/early 1900s, long before its role as a founding EU state.

The EU has “Christian roots” insomuch as Christianity has been a dominant religion in Europe, but implying that religion and the EU go together in some fundamental way is just wrong.
That is of course possible but I think more likely the same reasons people are ignoring christianity will cause people in the same environments to ignore other religions.

I could get into what I think those reasons are but that could open an HN flame war, so unless there's a followup comment on the topic I won't get into it.
There is and will for a long time be a shared culture which is distinctively European. It's just becoming less focused on religion.
Yes! I'm reading through all this discussion and thinking "why are these people so bent on overthinking such a simple concept"? Also using text as the sort order solves most of the issues people are bringing up.
I think we need to be careful not to extrapolate trends in the news and HN to a country that is increasingly suspicious of "news media", or a world that we are even more detached from.

Facebook has 2.2 billion monthly active users[1]. That's billion, with a B. HN has 3.5 million (with an M) unique visitors per month[2]. Everyone on Hacker News AND the 10 people closest to them could all drop off Facebook and it would only be about 1.5% of Facebook's traffic. Are you sure that the trends you're mentioning are happening outside your social circle? I'm not.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9219581