skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I mean, we're comparing 2008 money to 2018. If you put $45 billion in the stock market in 2008 when this offer was rejected it'd be worth ~$90 billion now.

If they were given MS stock as part of the deal, that $45 billion would be worth around $130 billion.

So, still probably a bad idea to reject the offer.
There is still crazy amounts of coal around WV very near the surface for example. Easily enough to bootstrap an industrial revolution multiple times. It's not a question of mining you can pick coal up from open top mines on the surface with your hands. You even see coal seams where they simply cut down to build roads a little.

We don't use it because the high sulfur content requires more expensive scrubbers to meet modern air quality standards. And due to the drop in solar / wind energy plus concerns about climate change it's likely to be available long term.

PS: US coal supply is estimated around 350 years at current production levels. Though that's also a low estimate based on proven reserves. Further, if you consider the Oxigen in the atmosphere needed to be separated from Carbon in the first place you should realize there is quite a bit of fossil fuels sitting around.
I'm confused, what does better early computer science education have to do with cybersecurity?
The Police should ask for the raw footage and at any rate the AD will if there's any doubt. They will probably engage a forensic computer tech expert as well and possibly ASU professors/engineers. But from a black box perspective it's clear that the system didn't not detect anything. Still IANAL but I would probably guess there will be a reckless driving charge for the driver here.. mitigated by the pedestrian failing to yield to the car by not crossing at a cross walk. The human driver was clearly not paying attention and there is video evidence of that. If the driver had kept their eyes on the road and the accident had still happened then it probably would be no charges filed.
MIT Developed a Way for Cars to See Through Fog
Then it's clearly not safe to be on the road at night.
> There are some parts of the state that are cheaper, beautiful, and less wind blown, like the Big Horn mountain area where I grew up. But they're still cold, conservative places dominated by the extractive industries. I got out as soon as I could.

Personally I prefer the more conservative environs versus the often over-bearing liberal attitude which dominates the Bay Area or other large cities. Perhaps the cold wind blown regions help people keep a level head. ;) So it's a matter of perspective.

Regardless, there are a lot of beautiful parts of the state and the K-12 education in many parts of the state excels [1]. Partly thats due to taxes from the mineral extraction industries.

> There's also cultural resistance to new industry. ... It's not even that the populace isn't smart enough to do them--mining is actually a pretty technical field at this point.

Unfortunately the cultural resistance to new industries does exist and dampens the development of new industries. Wyoming has a lot of talented industrially minded people. Many people grow up mechanically inclined due to the culture (here and surrounding states). This leads to younger Wyoming residents who are much more open to technology industries and looking for ways to stay in the state and willing to start businesses or create new technologies [2, 3]. There's also technology initiatives by the University of Wyoming, which due to the small population, have a impact across the state [4]. There is even some interesting deep learning research happening at the university in conjunction with a well known SV company [5].

All in all, the state has a small population but a relatively out-sized opportunities for those inclined to find them. Initiatives like the one in the article do make an impact here.

1: http://trib.com/news/local/education/wyoming-ranked-th-in-na...
2: http://wyomingpublicmedia.org/post/laramie-farming-start-has...
3: https://gizmodo.com/maximize-a-lazy-summer-afternoon-with-th...
4: https://thejournal.com/articles/2016/08/19/wyoming-and-new-h...
5: https://eng.uber.com/vine/
I wish I could agree. Uber is well known for being unafraid of criminal actions to protect their "Bottom line".
That sounds awful. Driving is hard enough when you have to second-guess what other drivers and pedestrians are going to do. Why add to that by having to second-guess what your own car is going to do?

I've got to side with the people who want no auto-driving until we have always-better-than-human auto-driving. When cars only have back seats, and no driver controls beyond a way to state your destination, auto-driving will be acceptable.
Many people don't realize that Cloudflare also received funding from Google: https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-raised-110m-from-fidelity... it seems cheaper to include it in Google Cloud than buying the company.
This is pretty much the experience I have with my dash cam, a Yi. In its recorded video, its automatic exposure control make it look like everything outside of the headline cone is pitch black, but it is actually not. I have seen deer and possums by the side of the road, and debris etc, that did not show up when I later checked the video for the same period. There is enough spillover light from modern headlights that a human whose eyes are dilated and adjusted to dark conditions will see a pedestrian standing on the median, stepping off it, crossing the inner lane towards the car's current lane. More than enough time to begin to brake and possibly swerve. I have dodged animals in a situation similar to this.
I get YT Red for free with Play Music. Two things an adblocker can't help with are mobile and Chromecast, so I'm sticking with it for that.
Radar can detect objects in a non-visible spectrum: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/753843823546028040?lang=...

> Good thing about radar is that, unlike lidar (which is visible wavelength), it can see through rain, snow, fog and dust - Elon Musk

The major car companies have even developed the technology to also allow LiDAR to see through snow/rain without the previous refraction problems: https://qz.com/637509/driverless-cars-have-a-new-way-to-navi...

My question is given it could detect the jaywalking object (regardless of visible light) within the very very short timeframe at those speeds, on what looks like a highway, I'm curious if it's rational to expect even the future ideal machines (say 5yrs from now) to have been able to react in that situation.

It's not as obvious as people here are pretending it is.

Yet even then we now have a previously unknown model to test our machines on to prevent it from happening again. Given a human would 99%+ of the time not have seen this woman in time, then I believe we'll at a very minimum be better off as a society as a result of this... as wrong as that sounds, because it's now a high-priority dataset, not just a sad story in the local news (if even) we'll forget about tomorrow as it would be with a human driver.
I'm not aware of those kinds of practices under the new CEO. Are you?
Depending on your speed, that is very bad advice. Sounds like a recipe for losing traction and fish tailing (potentially into other cars or people or even stationary objects).

There is only so much traction afforded by the contact patch on your tires. You can brake, you can turn, you can speed up but I would not recommend doing more than one at a time.
That look of horror on the driver's face... I can't say a human driver would have managed to stop or swerve any quicker either.
Like the AI Winter.
Is it allowed in the US to have high beams on when there are other cars on the road?
If you believed in principles of free market you wouldn't start by explaining how bad it is for person X that their investment dropped in value.

They made a bet, they lost it.

Someone else made a different bet and won.

That's how free market works. People are free to make bets and they loose or win based on how right they were.

Trying to enact policies that mess with market forces because you want to protect that person who lost the bet is the opposite of free market and also a bad economic policy.

Economists estimate that lack of housing in California is costing us all a lot. From https://www.wsj.com/articles/californias-housing-costs-hurt-...:

> California’s high housing costs are crimping economic productivity, increasing poverty rates, lowering homeownership, increasing crowding and lengthening commute time

This is the cost of protecting the investment of your hypothetical family not paying "unfair" prices.

Not to mention that your hypothetical scenario wouldn't happen if we had reasonable zoning policies to begin with.

The only reason price of a house could significantly go down due to new construction is that we allowed to prices to go up 10x in the past.

If we were building enough to meet the demand, everyone would be paying roughly the same price and price increases would roughly match inflation, not exceed it by miles.
Even though Venice and Culver City are technically right next to each other the office jobs in Culver City, for the most part, are a few miles from where the Venice office jobs are (see here: https://goo.gl/maps/963isPRWKmL2; short distance, but traffic from/to the 405 can be pretty brutal at rush hour even over short distances).

Getting a 30-minute commute to Venice is going to be materially more expensive, but on a dev salary (assuming $100k-$150k) you should have no trouble affording a place. If you're working in downtown Culver City you'll have way more choices at all price points because you can live almost anywhere between downtown LA and the beach and still get there in under 30.
I think the inattention is just expected now. If you have to do absolutely nothing 99.99% of the time, then it just doesn't seem possible to constantly focus on the road. At least if you are driving down an empty highway you still have to hold the wheel and press the accelerator. For this reason, I think level 0 systems ("may momentarily intervene but has no sustained vehicle control") hold much more promise for the near future (next decade or two), and I wish there was more focus on getting these systems widely deployed.
Complex and great read, thanks. I suggest following @cmeik on twitter for good content: https://twitter.com/cmeik
What Mark Zuckerberg didn’t say, and probably won’t
YouTube Red is not available in all countries Apple Music is.
Uh I think it’s a girl
Mission/vision is often the largest thing rather than a small thing with regards to long-term success. Waging a war without an overall mission and vision for achieving it results in, at best, a collection of battles that can only accidentally be strategic (and usually judged as such retrospectively).

Of course operating under overly vague generalities while believing they are mission/vision statements is nearly as bad as operating with none.
> Obama is a typical politician.

> Trump is a bullshitting, dysfunctional, con-artist

Therefore, Trump is a typical politician.
Youtube could make their ads unblockable by putting them in the content's video stream or just serving them from the same domain. I feel like they don't do that just as a way to be nice to adblockers, but I don't know why.
Ultimately any intelligent process needs to arise from non-intelligent processes. This is so obvious that it’s hard to believe it needs stating.
> The U.S. Navy's KISS principle equally applies to the amorphous concept of being a hacker, but you don't see people espousing that as a tenant.

Well I hear it espoused all the time. I think you do too, otherwise you would not be referencing a 1960s phrase in 2018.

> My issue with the parent is the linking to some makerspace's rules as if they speak for the community at large.

There is no community at large. This site is called hackernews. Paul Graham constantly writes about what a hacker would do in situation X. Literally anybody who feels like it can call themselves a hacker. There is no professional body, w00t!

So if London hackerspace says they are hackers, and they write some rules, ergo => some legit hackers made those rules

> I just guess I'm against people attributing ideas, &c to something that doesn't need them in the first place (and may even be better when left to the abstract)

Well you sound miserable if you are against some people calling themselves hackers.
>Americans should travel more and replicate the best parts.

I hope you realize that the vast majority of the country isn't as privileged as we are when it comes to being able to afford to travel, or even to get time off in the first place.
Russian trolls are infiltrating HN too?
We don't know if he was looking at a display showing the road from the perspective of lidar, etc.
In the end, incompetence might save us all :)
Would it matter from the legal point of view? The police have evidence of speed and unsafe driving for the condition and driver inattention. I guess it depends on what the legislature legislated in AZ for these cars/situations. The AI should get scrutiny but I am not sure if that is a police matter or an DA matter.
Do we even have much evidence that the public is outraged?
The video is cut before the impact. I don't think we can judge of what will happen in the last second that is missing.
In which case the instructions start with, "Go to the following URL, download the file named foo, and use the following command to extract bar and baz." But write those instructions!
I'll bite!

According to https://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/sites/roadsafety/..., there are 6000-6500 pedestrian deaths per year in the EU (the data is only in graph form). EDIT: here is the raw data: https://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/sites/roadsafety/...

As someone who has spent a fair amount of time in both places, I can say that the US pedestrian feels more entitled due to an almost universal pedestrian legal right of way outside of controlled intersections (stop lights). It's a foolhardy attitude, and completely antithetical to the way people are taught (which is: look right, then left, then right again before stepping off the curb). But Italians often do the same because they wouldn't ever cross the street otherwise, and there will be a small group of risk takers adding to the statistics in every country.
Personally, I'm amazed that we get to see any video at all from this accident... Given that we live in an age where video is king, and given Uber's reputation for going to extreme lengths to get their way, I think we should be thankful to the Tempe Police for getting this important document to the public so quickly.
I agree. For $15/month family plan, my wife and I enjoy the music and we get no ads on YouTube. For $180/year it is a great entertainment value. That is two months of cable TV, which provides much less value.
That's a great point, and something we use in driving even in daytime, sometimes you are driving on a curvy mountain road and see something move through the leaf cover and know to take precautionary steps - to slow down and extra care on being in the lane. I don't know much about it but wildly speculate some of this might fall into general AI, though.
>Housing is something people consume. It's durable, but so are cars and imagining them as being a gateway investment to the middle class because they will cost more in the future should be just as silly as for housing.

But when you're talking a capitalization period on the order of the average person's lifespan, it becomes a new class of asset in my mind. You can't treat something which will pretty much guaranteed always exist until the day you die the same as a usable good.
If anyone is wondering how to avoid accidents like these while YOU are driving - look for shadows. You may not see someone wearing dark clothes, but you can see the shadow they project change as you move.
The Seed of a Collab Server
Even so, I count a full second from when a human paying attention would have seen something just using this video as eyes, until impact. The stopping distance at 35mph is 136ft, which is 2.65 seconds at 35mph, so the accident would still happen but the impact speed could be lower.
They are well aware there is no way to assure they haven’t copied data 5 years ago. Pointing that out with rightful indigence is not “being a hater”. (which isn’t a trope that belongs in reasonable conversation)
Or work remotely
> (2) is where your argument falls apart. Everyone wants to buy houses nowadays- it's not illiquid.

It is illiquid. How long do you think it takes to sell a house?

The median home takes 60+ days to sell.

Don't let your limited view shape how you see the world. The world isn't the Bay Area or similar locations.
> I watched the video a bunch of times and I don't see how the vehicle could have slowed down within the 700ms max where she would have been visible to a LIDAR, to make much of a difference.

There's also a steering wheel. (Why is everybody here missing this?!) I could totally see it having moved out of the way.
See my other comment, the Arduino education program for teachers takes a hands on approach to educating teachers around the state.
Easy, the pedestrian had to cross sometime, and they couldn't predict which of the many lanes the car would move into.
Yes, let's try to have some more empathy for people who are overweight or live in Wyoming.
I'm not sold on the MySpace thesis. MySpace faltered due to autoplaying audio and video, obnoxious animated gifs, and ridiculous CSS customization powers given to the users. Facebook was cleaner, loaded faster, and had a better "scene" for people in the targeted demographic: college students and eventually recent graduates.
This is also covered in this video:

How an Average Family in Tokyo Can Buy a New Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGbC5j4pG9w
You could ask the moderators: hn@ycombinator.com.
I dunno I would've probably had them on if there was no opposing traffic.
I thought GMOs were illegal in the EU, of which France is a part of
40mph is actually right at the inflection point where survivability changes dramatically. At 40mph it's about a 50/50 chance of a car crash with a pedestrian causing a fatality. At 35mph the chances of a fatality go down to 1 in 3, at 30mph it goes down to 1 in 5. At a little under 20mph it's 1 in 10.
It was also a bit too early for the police to release a statement less than 24 hours after the incident saying that it appears that Uber/the car/observer was not at fault.
Are you making a Dr Strangelove joke or actually serious?
The video footage being presented is beyond useless because it is misleading. The important data to determine wether the system misbehaved would look like this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2017/mar/16/goo...

Waymo cars are capable of sensing vehicles and pedestrians at least half a block away in every directions. I was reserving any judgement on wether this collision could have been prevented, but seeing the video tells me that 1) a human driver might have hit the victim regardless, and 2) I'm very surprised that the LIDAR sensor didn't cause the car to stop to a halt much, much earlier. This is exactly the kind of situation that I would expect self-driving cars to be better than human drivers.
Then you will be ostracized on HN for not being pro-urban.
No removable battery, no headphone jack, no SD card expansion, increased difficulty installing apps not in the official store..

Apples ecosystem is a gilded ghetto
LIDAR view on dashboard! Uber, if you are reading, take heed.
I said it may well be cause to go back, not it /is/ cause to go back.

I've read a couple of articles just today that don't seem to check out in some minor way. I can think of one widely-reported story off the top of my head that appears to be grossly misrepresentative of fact if not false. An investigative journalist probably has dozens. Choices need to be made.

The fact that this wasn't pursued for months strongly suggests that none of this evidence was nearly as compelling as it's now being painted.
And those weapons at the time were....muskets, bayonets. They had no vision of the M-16, AK-47, etc. The statement of the 2nd Amendment begins with, "A well regulated militia..." So let's well regulate it.

According to Wikipedia:

In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence" and limited the scope of the Second Amendment's protections to the federal government.[11] In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment did not protect weapon types not having a "reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia".[12][13]

As I stated, I have no expertise in this matter. If it requires a repeal then that is what I would favor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United...
According to google maps, the speed limit is 45 northbound (which is the way the car was going), 35 southbound. The report was that the car was going at 38, but I could not find stopping ranges estimates for that exact number. So give or take a little.

Looking at the video, it seemed like the driver reacted (facially) about a second after she shifted her gaze from some device to the road. It took me several runs of replaying the video to narrow down the time between when I first saw her shoe and collision to about 2 seconds. Also, recall this was at 10pm. In my opinion, swerving or braking with a 1-2 second notice is extremely hard, especially if it's late and you're tired. To be perfectly honest, if it was me, I don't think I would've been able to react at all before the collision.
The driver has been described as male in news reports:

> "The driver said it was like a flash, the person walked out in front of them," Moir said, referring to the backup driver who was behind the wheel but not operating the vehicle. "His first alert to the collision was the sound of the collision."

> "The driver, Rafael Vasquez, 44, …"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/video-sho...
Is there an industry of “black hat PR” people that handle this sort of thing? Would be really interested if there were any autobiographical novels from that sort of person, though I suppose, like bank robbers, their success insists they remain unknown.

EDIT: Just remembered the movie Wag the Dog the Wikipedia article calls the black hat PR people portrayed therein “spin doctors”. But that seems more like just PR to me, not setting off fire alarms to scare away reporters (though the spin doctors in the movie construct a fake war).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog
2017 ACM A.M. Turing Award: John L. Hennessy and David A. Patterson
Judging a comment, or commenter, based on karma is asinine. Respond to comment, not commenter; ideas not people. You are not well representing HN, and this is my 'unpopular opinion' account talking. There are plenty of better ways to engage, and I do appreciate your enthusiasm for HN. Perhaps this is an apt introduction to the heated discussion that is HN.
The pedestrian was a homeless person. I don't mean to be insensitive but there's a chance she wasn't in a condition to recognise the danger of what she was doing.

Regardless, it is the driver's responsibility to perceive and avoid hazards like this and I think that would've been pretty easy given it's a big wide empty road with overhead lighting. This looks like the kind of bad low light footage my cheap dashcam produces in similar conditions.
I pay for red, but the real annoying thing is you can only have 1 youtube video playing at once.

So if i'm listing to music on my tv and open a link to youtube on my desktop, it stops the music on my tv.
Your election in 2000 was stolen with the help of technically faulty (at least) voting machines. The fact that the possibility was considered tinfoil conspiracy in 2016 just means that politicians are rather skilled at reassuring the public.

Obama probably felt that he would have damaged the democratic party by saying anything else.