skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Don't lump Uber's hodgepodge effort launched a couple years ago in with the serious and careful efforts of groups like Waymo/Google and Cruze. Google has a decade or more of data. Uber's frantically trying to figure it out on the fly. And they're seriously failing to run safe cars.
Ah ok good point!
Maybe? I can tell you that Amazon has huge pricing power on bandwidth. You need to have serious sales chops to change anything like what Amazon does, and then you probably are left with a high touch customer.

I do think that this might change next downturn, but this is yet to be seen.
Road construction and big building unions seem to be doing just fine.
I took another look, and the timing is, in fact, not weird at all—thanks for pointing this out. This news is not very exciting.
It could be that Facebook employees somehow got caught up in some of Cambridge Analytica's unethical activities, as recently revealed by an undercover Channel 4 investigation:

https://www.channel4.com/news/cambridge-analytica-revealed-t...
I graduated from Purdue in '04 and the job market in-state was terrible. The best offer I received in Indiana was a one year contract @ $35k in Fort Wayne. Several talented people I knew took software jobs at $40k or under to stay close to family.

I didn't even have to go to a tech hub to get more than double that $35k job offer.

As an aside: I will never work for Caterpillar after seeing the way the recruiters treated students at the job fair. An actually overheard sentence (and whatever tone you are hearing in your head is likely less harsh than what was used): "Our requirements list a minimum 3.5 GPA, why are you wasting my time with a 3.2?" this was not a particularly egregious example either, but rather the typical way they talked to candidates once they found a reason to throw away their resumé.
According to the statement by FB, they just asked CA politely.
I don’t disagree
Correct. “Bear” actually derives from the word for “brown” (aka “the brown one”) rather that the PIE <asterisk>rkto- — think “ursus”. In facr, all germanic words derived from <asterisk>rkto- appear to be loan words from romance language (eg arctic).

Seems like the slavic version is roughly equivalent to “honey eater”.

Personally I’ve always thought this is because bears can both stand on two legs and roughly share a diet with humans. :)
Thinking about different scenarios as unit tests it shouldn’t be hard for them to simulate all sorts of different scenarios and share those tests. Perhaps that would become part of a new standard for safety measures in addition to crash tests with dummies.
In fact, I really think this will become the norm in the near future. It might even be out there already in some form.
You seriously think Uber wouldn't try to claim "commercial in confidence" or "trade secrets" rights to all the data from every single death?
You're right. I had seen similar FAQs in previous years and thought this was a repost
Pandoc[1] should do it for you. Running this -- from the root of the cloned project -- produced decent output for me:

pandoc \
book.tex \
chapters/basic-datatypes.tex \
chapters/classes.tex \
chapters/dictionaries.tex \
chapters/functions.tex \
chapters/installation.tex \
chapters/introduction.tex \
chapters/loops.tex \
-o full-speed-python.epub

(you may replace .epub with .mobi to get that file format, but it seems to not support TeX math properly)

[1]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html
Currently, Uber self-driving vehicles are clocking in at a fatality rate of about 50x the rate for human drivers.

You can bring your hypotheticals to bear all you like, but this is a serious problem.
> Additionally, this information about Cambridge Analytica came out months ago.

No, there's new Cambridge Analytica information, as of today:

https://www.channel4.com/news/cambridge-analytica-revealed-t...
Oh yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it actually makes the temptation much worse. They've built this business with billions in revenue, and they will probably lose it all if this SDC doesn't succeed.

What's more, a lot of people seem to think Waymo's tech is further along. So not only does this project have to succeed, it is also the underdog. So no wonder they're aggressive.
that doesn't sound like a fair comparison. How many human interventions were there in the 2-3 million Uber miles?
> I think it's significant that a huge number of people are using end-to-end encryption by default without even realizing it
> most certainly objectively a lot better than facebook messenger or SMS

Sure, I wouldn't argue with that. Doesn't make up for making me use Google Services (or a phone & a phone number, for that matter) and sharing all my contacts with FB though. It might be even making me angrier about whole situation: it's so close to being good that it makes it obvious, how much technologically possible it in fact is to have a sane messenger. We don't have it though. And no surprise, because who would pay for it, if money cannot be made out of our metadata?
If you are serious about testing this, someone will just DDOS the ip and the monitoring is offline for everyone.
He has had a little or no blowback from it so did he learn anything to change or was his view confirmed that people are dumb
Because they have a lot of data. Because they leak like a submarine diving with its hatches open. Because they have a history of being scummy.

Google could find it self in the same boat.

Technologys hydras are as dangerous as the mythical ones.
> Which is why we're talking about regulation.

Regulation to say what? That people can't freely give away their own data? To tell Facebook not to share people's data with other apps, even if the users themselves authorize it?
Police are reporting that it never slowed down. Hitting the pedestrian at 40 mph.
Those are public web browsers and not really relevant to the matter here. They do not, as far as I know, implement DANE and if they did they would likely not trust 512-bit RSA certificates either. (Who knows? That might even have been a good way to bootstrap a good policy baseline, had they supported it.)
Check Point says CTS Labs' AMD disclosure was 'irresponsible'
For the same reason the US was the one who brought FIFA to court. It is easier if an "outsider" makes the first move.
There was an interval of about 3 months where if Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich had agreed to draw straws and support the winner, Trump could have been stopped relatively easily. But instead they all assumed Trump could never win, and thus spent a lot of resources attacking each other and splitting the traditional Republican vote.
I had one too. I loved that thing.
Surprising Details About First American Killed by a Car (2013)
There may eventually be standard test suites that can be applied to any of the self-driving systems in simulation. This would give us a basis of comparison for safety, but also for speed and efficiency.

As well as some core set of tests that define minimum competence, these tests could include sensor failure, equipment failure (tire blowout, the gas pedal gets stuck, the brakes stop working) and unexpected environmental changes (ice on the road, a swerving bus).

Manufacturers could even let the public develop and run their own test cases.
They have learned that in other areas of their business that using and contributing to FOSS is a win for everybody.
The fix is easy. Mandate that every employee on a visa is paid twice the amount of the company's highest earner. Them they'll truly only bring people over when they have to. If you'll pay double the going rate, you can bring over as many as you want.

But it needs to be purely pushing wages up, not down under any circumstance. This guarantees that.
A "million" people do not die in the U.S. every year from driving. Not even close:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in...

Not that 37,000+ is a great number, but I don't think many of the detractors here are arguing that Uber et. al have a perfect record. Just that it's possible that progress is being made in a more reckless way than necessary. Just because space flight is inherently difficult and risky and ambitious doesn't mean we don't investigate the possibly preventable factors behind the Challenger disaster.

edit: You seem to be referencing the worldwide estimate. Fair, but we're not even close to having self-driven cars in the most afflicted countries. Nevermind AI, we're not even close to having clean potable water worldwide, and diarrhea-related deaths outnumber road accident deaths according to WHO: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/
Interested to know why paddle rather than something like Stripe?
Stock options.
I would like to mention Matrix/Riot instead. It's not good enough still, but if anything will be in a foreseeable future, I believe it has the biggest chance.
I'm still shaken with the magnitude and strength of the revelations that have been made in the last five hours on Cambridge Analytica (though some of the things sound more like SCL -- they share the same CEO).

At 7pm GMT we had the Channel 4 News investigation[0] which featured Alexander Nix, the CEO of Cambridge Analytica, in which he appeared to be bragging to a fictional Sri Lankan businessman (who was in fact an undercover reporter) about the things they can do to discredit his opponents involving (with a delicious dose of irony) hidden cameras. Such tactics sounded a lot like they may involve trafficking of Ukrainian sex workers. There were also things that sounded a lot like blackmail and spreading of things that may not be true.

Then, just after that undercover story broke we had the Facebook raid, which really looked a lot to my untrained eye like heroic efforts to protect data of the more evidential variety from being unnecessarily breached to the authorities or the public.

At 10.30pm we got an interview [1], filmed before the undercover reporting broke, with Alexander Nix. Most memorable to me was Mr Nix seemed to attempt to confidently assure us that Dr Aleksandr Kogan had merely shared with them the gradients with which to build additional models upon and had never shared the data harvested from FB as the whistleblower in this article had alleged. We were also either told or given the impression that this was a great big misunderstanding and all part of a spectacularly coordinated attack by journalists who were upset about Trump.

[0] https://www.channel4.com/news/cambridge-analytica-revealed-t...

[1] https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight
That's easier said than done. I don't know the requirements of the person you're replying to, but it can be things like needing to lie in bed with screen fairly directly above you, or it can be that the physically constants of your space limit the positions that a monitor can be placed in.
On the one hand I agree with you, but in the other there’s Horizon Zero Dawn, Battlefield 1, Tomb Raider, Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice, NHL 17 and 18, Journey, the Little Big Planet series, Cities: Skylines, GTA V...

I dunno, I think gaming is starting to come out of that prolonged oooh-look-shiny-effects kind of era and into a pretty creative space.
"It is a cancer." Spoken like someone who has to spend 6 months working up the nerve to delete his account. There's no need to get all ugly and overstated about it, like an overgrown teenager yelling & saying nasty things to his mom instead of moving out. Just do it and walk away.

Not that it's not a cancer. (Although it's more like obesity or type 2 diabetes, in that it's you doing it to yourself through many small bad choices.) But if it's a cancer now, then it always was one, Captain Newsflash.

Just walk away. Yes it is that easy. You'll never see half those assholes again and you'll be glad not to have to try to please them anymore. The rest that you keep around, well we call those your "friends."

People far away, you're not meant to "connect" with them. They're far away. Pull your head out of your butt and be where you are. If it was good enough for Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull to be completely unable to converse with somebody in New Jersey then it's good enough for me and you.

AND GET OFF MY LAWN!
Keeping developers happy and productive
Just sensor data to replay the scenario as fully as possible should be sufficient. Whatever it looks like to humans, there's clearly something in there that can be difficult for AI systems and so everyone should be using it as a regression test.
I live in a third world country (Colombia) and the scammy hype is even here, people at cafes telling each other to "invest" in BTC and the other crypto currencies, usually through a middlemen (the ones doing the convincing, so they take a commission one way or another); usually involving people with not much money to begin with, just hungry for an opportunity to make some, willing to take bank credits or other forms of debt in order to "invest". It's all so lame.
Sure, but companies do this sort of thing too, and in ways that are almost certainly illegal. Using Race/Sexual orientation to better target individuals, the biggest difference between now and before, is that when running pre internet ad campaigns, you couldn't AB test well and measure direct impressions.

The fact that computers are placing digital picture ads (that are cheap to produce), allows such extreme cases as we've seen to happen.
When a chain fails to find consensus and forks due to different consensus rules, the 2 chains persist until the developers tell us which chain is the right one. Let's take the 2013 Bitcoin fork for example. OK now a merchant who has accepted Bitcoin on one chain could have had a transaction that was 20 blocks deep. Then, when the miners decide to abandon that chain and obey the developers and go on the other chain, the merchant's transaction is no longer confirmed if it wasn't played on the other chain. This is how blockchain consensus failures change the past of the ledger and therefore how the blockchain fails to be immutable by your definition.

side note: I'd be wary of calling blockchain's consensus mechanism "computer science", it's more of a social consensus when consensus rules are different (ie. when forks are involved).
It's a cynical approach, but they could be playing both angles. Take enough risks that maybe you do succeed and you can cut your costs enormously by actually having SDCs. But if you fail, you also protect yourself by taking the competition down with you.
> the self-driving car was, in fact, driving itself when it barreled through the red light, according to two Uber employees, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they signed nondisclosure agreements with the company, and internal Uber documents viewed by The New York Times. All told, the mapping programs used by Uber’s cars failed to recognize six traffic lights in the San Francisco area. “In this case, the car went through a red light,” the documents said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/technology/anthony-levand...
The Significant Locations feature in System Services.
Possibly there's enough business risk that if Uber doesn't, someone else will, and then they will have SDCs but Uber won't, and then Uber will go bankrupt just about instantly.
I agree with almost everything you said, minus the raid in London. It won’t be FB kicking it off, but the ICO and Electoral Commissions in the UK are already investigating them, as is the EU, and in the USA, the Massachusetts AG.

Raids are possible, but it won’t be because Zucky boy and his motley crew did a thing.
Maybe, maybe not. I mean, Teva oxycodone HCl is arguably still a prescription opioid, even if it's been obtained without a prescription.
Could be, better than high blood pressure if it is, I suppose
That’s not apples to apples. How many cars account for the nhtsa number and how many for Uber’s program?
"Could potentially save tens of thousands of lives a year" is not the same as "will save tens of thousands of lives a year right now". The fact that a technology has the potential for huge benefits does not give it a free pass to kill people while it's being developed.
It definitely gets the job done. But as soon as the job's done and you want anything else, it becomes a complete nightmare.
Waymo has driven 2.7 billion miles in simulation [1]. Is that enough to give them some idea of how many deaths to expect?

[1] https://waymo.com/ontheroad/
Absolutely not. Current data point at self driving car being more dangerous than human driven cars. Double down in real environment testing and you’ll expose the public to increased danger until software becomes good enough - you’re basically telling random people to share publicly the risks so other people in the future may or may not be safer while private companies profit from the fruit of the research and, sincerely, screw that: public test should start after controlled testing proves the system to be at least not more dangerous than the status quo and the companies should use testers that opt in and are adeguately compensated for their liabilities to injuries instead of killing off random bystanders for the “greater good” which in trith is how they name their pyroll savings
People willingly operate unsafe machinery in 3rd world country factories but personally I don't think it's OK when they get crippled due to some accident or malfunction.

If all you're testing are scenarios that are known to be safe for the employee in question, then what exactly are you gaining from that testing?
Most people couldn't understand ToS agreements if they had the energy to read them, which they don't.

They assume protections in place that aren't there because things like the bill of rights do not apply.
I drank from garden hoses all the time as a kid :-(

Gotta wonder what that did to the brain pan.
Looks good on my MBP. Thanks for sharing!
Not sure why you think that taking the offender to civil court is crazy? It happens literally every day. And it the case of death you're going to get major damages. Normally these cases settle, but like it or not many, many people sue over serious and fatal auto accidents.
Exactly. Given the information available at this point, the headline and most of the article is pure sensationalism. It could equally easily have been spun as "Homeless lady walks in front of car" but that won't get the clicks.
Interviewing Developers
I walk to work every day, and I can assure you that most human drivers have zero awareness of what pedestrians are about to do.

Even on crosswalks. If I just strolled out on a crosswalk without looking, and waiting for drivers who were paying no attention, I’d be long dead.
I'm really confused what it means towards:

- updates to screenshots?
- marketing video?
- app name?
- keywords?

Interesting
Often not true. I've always advocated that the CSO report to the CEO, and that is how it came to be. I was listed on the exec page, and the current CSO is now as well.

Not reporting to the CEO is a mistake.
Also, the main bottleneck for those issues is plain old energy. If tokamaks end up being the way to go, by the end of the century, we will have orders of magnitude more energy than we could possibly need to desalinate the oceans, extract nitrogen from the air to make fertilizer, and even reprocess CO2 and water back into synthetic hydrocarbons. 11 billion people is outright tiny for a near-Kardashev-1 civilization.
> Take 30 seconds to search

How about you stop being a libertarian keyboard jockey and actually try to get involved in running a business or two in Los Angeles, like I am doing? Everything you have posted is bullshit.

My wife happens to be a "creative artist" who does a lot of work in the film industry here. She is also the type of person who did not do basic research into starting a business and did not bother to find out what taxes she was supposed to be paying. I don't know why you think that being an airhead is the city's fault. The fine was not "thousands of dollars," it came out to $80-something for two years of unreported city taxes. It was literally a letter and a couple of phone calls to settle that.
> Facebook engages in surveillance capitalism.

They're well beyond that. Once upon a time, there was no "news feed." Then they made one, and people were not happy, but at least it was strictly chronological. Then they made it subject to an opaque and ever-changing "news feed algorithm," which makes it possible to control what you see. Those creepy studies a few years ago about emotional manipulation weren't an accident. Facebook is in the Skinner Box business now.
>I mean that it's curious that the Midwest never seems to advertise toward immigrants or minorities in tech.

What precisely do you mean when you say "the Midwest never seems to advertise toward immigrant or minorities in tech"? Do you mean you won't find the same level of preachy self-righteousness in the Midwest as you do in more liberal coastal areas?
Only through this HN thread did I learn that AI is actually barely used in current self-driving car software. This was after I wrote that comment.
You’ve commented a lot on this, so I feel I have to ask, do you have a stake in cryptocurrency, or is this purely your sincere enthusiasm for the tech? After all, cryptographically secure elections with verifiablity don’t require blockchain tech in the slightest.
> AFAIK no self driving car has been at fault in an accident.

Nobody is saying the car itself was at fault. People are saying (justifiably) that the people who put the car out on public roads with faulty engineering are at fault.

> I don't think a self driving car will be commercially successful until it shows it is at least as safe as a human driver. More likely it will have to demonstrate that it is significantly safer.

I agree. And the incident under discussion illustrates that the technology has not yet reached that point.

Furthermore, "commercially successful" is not the first objective that needs to be met. The first objective is "safe enough to be allowed on public roads". The incident under discussion illustrates that the technology has not yet reached that point either.
Not at all; some simple effects like a stick-to-the-top header usually require cloning such element using JavaScript; and even if such effects are not needed right now they may be added in the near future, so no, there is not a single time where having an ID over a class makes sense.
It's too slow to be relevant.
How is CA legally bound to Facebook because of Terms and Conditions between Facebook and that app? Like you said, third party app - there was no agreement between Facebook and CA?
> I've tried dipping my toe into following this F1 driver or that tech star, but it seems like the content is 100% tangents and 0% relevant to anything I might care about. I just can't get past that hump. And again, that's following very few people.

Again, quality over quantity. I don't follow anyone with more than a few thousand followers because then it becomes a weird hierarchical, pub-sub, "celebrity" kind of relationship, rather than just communication between peers. Follow the guy
with 300 stars on GitHub making weird new stuff, not whatever "online personality" is pushing their blog and building a huge follower base.
Ask yourself how many search forms you have filled in where you are allowed to leave the fields that you are not searching on blank. That is a fairly common design.
The laws are state and local. In AZ it's a city or township, then the people put it on the ballot and it gets shut down. Tucson voted 65% no cameras, and later we got a state wide ban on highways, so it's a still a work in progress. The tickets are civil law, so you can throw it out, frame it, or make a coffee table book if you get enough:)
I think its time to ditch Facebook.
It also relieves Facebook of any sufficiently necessary capability to surveil, centralize, and manage risk.

Given the firm's susceptibility to GDPR and its newfound position under the microscope of a series of international criminal and counter intelligence investigations, this would seem objectively to be the wrong move.