skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'd love to see the data you're talking about, but even if such data exists, that doesn't make extrapolating from this one accident any more valid.
Well I think the fact of the matter is if you want to get rid of Facebook and / or social media while maintaining a social like you MUST become hyper competent at managing your social life.

I moved across the country and had to rebuild my social network from scratch without social media, you can do this through sites like meetup or checking local event calender's.

Once you meet some folks who you want to know better you can exchange numbers and quickly set up a coffee, tea, lunch, dinner thing and then get into the habit on checking up with them to see what they are doing. Once I established this relationship with people they began to invite me to things every once in a while, do this with 3-5 well connected friends and you should have options every weekend.

People are outsourcing the management of their social life through Facebook, if you want to stop using Facebook you really need to take back control of managing your social network.
and the developers of the software what would be the legal standing if they are residents of countries like the USA?

could they be persecuted as facilitators of the ilegal distribution?
My approach was to simply delete the Facebook app. I can still use facebook.com in my mobile browser once a week if I want and I don't get any push notifications.
I agree that PBR is awesome, but PBR doesn't slow things down, it is just a replacement by less accurate equations (BlinnPhong ambient,diffuse,specular) with better equations (GGX albeido, roughness, metallic, clearcoat, sheen) that are generally the same complexity.

It is sort of neutral on render time for the most part.

In time, I am sure we will be in a raytraced future if GPU trends continue.
Yeah, and don't get too creative with your characters either. Have a cool anime-inspired protagonist with a unique look? Don't use him. Your name isn't Hayao Miyazaki, and the player base can't relate. There are probably hundreds of Joe McBuzzcut models in your favorite asset store you can tweak to purpose.

Also, don't forget to hire a sweatshop full of eager kids fresh out of high school or junior college and make them work 60-80 (or more) hour weeks for peanuts to hit those Christmas deadlines. They probably know more about the ins and outs of the third-party middleware you licensed than you do, since it's literally all they do, morning, noon, and night. Granted, this bit may be difficult on a $85,000 budget -- if you plan on hiring developers from the first world, that is. You could probably hire a team twenty strong from China or the Ukraine for less than half that money and keep them busy for a year. After which you'll have a beta with a few bugs, some of them showstoppers, but still good enough to ship as the final game while you ready a day-one patch.

I mean if we're going to regurgitate "industry best practice" into this thread, why not go whole hog?
>Apple started making the newton tablet in 1987

I'd say it also helped that Apple had already shipped the Apple II and derivatives before 1987 so that they could at least burn some percent of revenue on R&D (if you want to also ignore how they were also struggling from the mid 80's to the 90's even after already shipping an actual product to the market).

>…it will naturally take longer.

Whatever they're working on at this point, maybe it would have been better to stay in academia for a while longer before starting up the hype machine…

But oh well, we shall see eventually, one way or another.
No one is asking for infinite value. A cursory glance at causes of death rates in USA reveals that far too many people are dying in automobile collisions. There is nothing about our world that requires that level of carnage. Future generations will find our customs ghastly.
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Okay, and is that not what is being discussed here? I'm just really confused as to what the OP is complaining about.
there is a standard in motor industry called misra, because the target user is human you have to met some certain safety level. Otherwise bad things happen like this.

Maybe self driving industry needs to have some safety rules too to prevent when the unexpected happens.
>> Sounds like Uber's platform may not be up to that standard yet, which makes me wonder why they're on public roads.

They're on public roads because they've decided that deploying their tech is more important than safety.

I don't see any other explanation. We know that it's pretty much impossible to prove the safety of autonomous vehicles by driving them, so Uber (and almost everyone else) have decided that, well, they don't care. They'll deploy them anyway.

How do we know that? The report by RAND corporation:

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1478.html

Key Findings

* Autonomous vehicles would have to be driven hundreds
of millions of miles and sometimes hundreds of billions
of miles to demonstrate their reliability in terms of
fatalities and injuries.

* Under even aggressive testing assumptions, existing
fleets would take tens and sometimes hundreds of years
to drive these miles — an impossible proposition if the
aim is to demonstrate their performance prior to
releasing them on the roads for consumer use.

* Therefore, at least for fatalities and injuries,
test- driving alone cannot provide sufficient evidence
for demonstrating autonomous vehicle safety.
Price to Earnings less cash is probably a better metric anyways. If you take away the ~250 billion in cash that Apple has on their balance sheet, you end up with a P/E of around 12-13, which is a little below average historically.
Well put! Instead of downvoting the authors comment, take a moment and think about it...

The same analogy can be made for NYC with the finance industry.
Maybe simply because "normal" people cause accidents, it's not newsworthy enough for you to hear about it?
There's no reason for any software not to be open source, aside from greed.
Even in AAA games of today with amazing graphics, I still see polygons in cylindrical, conical and round objects (I'm not talking about raytracing but regular rendering). Everything looks so realistic, but a well or bucket [1] or some other cylindrical object you encounter looks not round but faceted, breaking the suspension of disbelief.

Raytracing may bring more roundness, but why not quadratic surfaces or some other fast enough to render method of real roundness in rasterizers? It may be expensive (although one surface would replace many polygons...), but it'd solve one of the last remaining uglinesses :)

[1] https://imgur.com/gallery/AdDyT8B
I was among the first batch or two of webOS app developers in 2009 (into webOS' smartphone death in '12) and wow, this makes me nostalgic all over again. I'm going to need to have a look at this when I have some time.

Good to see LG keeping it even tangentially relevant.
Would you care that seatbelts are statistically likely to save lives if your loved ones died drowning in their car due to them?

What do we do differently based on the answer to that question?
> Graphics programmers have been predicting this revolution...

Mostly it has seemed like it's been everyone except the actual graphics programmers.
The news isn't about the fact that a human died, unless I'm somehow missing the constant flood of ~50 news items a day about other deadly car accidents. The news is very much about self-driving cars and our relation to them. That's what people react to. The human death is tragic, but not really the topic.
That looks completely identical to all bike lanes I've seen in suburban areas. I think bike lanes are just inherently dangerous. Would be interesting to see what a well-designed suburban bike lane looks like.
not only not default, secret chats are not even available on linux.
I mean, a business is worth present value of your future cash flows, so it all depends on how you think Amazon's future looks.
Not really. In some countries, you can submit a request to download everything facebook knows about you, and for deleted posts, it just toggles a flag that removes it from public view instead of removing it from the database.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/10/20/law-student-trig...
Sure, we don't know many of the details.

But from this distance, things don't look good for the technology or the future of autonomous trials on public roads.

The evidence that due care was not taken will pretty much be the existence of the fatality.

There surely will be video, from the car itself and also perhaps third party security or traffic cameras. The level of carelessness we are going to have to see in order for a jury to blame the victim will be pretty high.
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How is that irrational? The personal experience isn't some uncomfortable mote in the eye of the objective perception of reality, to the contrary the delusion that such objective perception is even possible, that you can have a detached view on what you are inside of, is the mote in the eye of the closest you can get to the you you actually are. It could be argued that it's Plato who is stuck in the cave.

Apart from that, you can imagine a loved one being killed or I can imagine you as someone who would just shrug if I or someone I love was killed, but there isn't really a whole lot in between those poles.
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Hey HN,

This is a question I ask myself pretty often. I also try to write down whenever I encounter wanting to do something but not being able to. I have kept a running list of answers to this question for a while and today I was thinking that it would be interesting to hear answers from other people as well.

I have used my list in the past as inspiration to build things. Maybe we can find some inspiration together?
I always thought webOS was really nice and ahead of its time. I assume making phones using this would be difficult without having good driver support from the hardware vendors?
Demosceners are starting to, for sure.

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=69642
Oh god that's embarrassing. Thank you for pointing that out.

edit: fixed.
To add to that, https://www.metalary.com/californium-price/ says "Since the discovery of californium in 1950, scientists have only succeeded in producing just 8 grams of californium-252."

Wikipedia has a picture of the 50 ton container used to transport up to 1 gram of californium-252 safely, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californium#/media/File:CfShie... .
Because it might still help if someone else made the wrong choice in image format.
America has already basically imported GDPR because all of the companies building GDPR tools are not going to restrict them to the EU for fear of accidentally blocking a genuine EU citizen.
While what you are saying can reduce the number of occurrences, it does not change what your parent post said.
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Not just oil companies -- state owned oil companies. It's relatively easy to be worth alot of money if you have a monopoly on an entire country's resources.
Damage Control.
>It is possible to determine the value placed on life, I believe there are studies that show the value is more stable than you might think, and balance things appropriately.

For evaluating safety regulations relative to the cost of inplementation, NHTSA values the risk of loss of human life in relation to the market value of risk reducing products, and the safety they provide.

They extrapolate from the take rate of airbags and their cost and effectivity, to how much value the average American places on their own life. IIRC on the order of $5 million.

FYI, juries do not look kindly on companies that implement this in liability suits. The data is that if a corporation writes down a $-figure for a (statistical) human life, it anchors punitive fines at a higher level.
Did a quick google search to see if there was anything similar to Quiver that is open source and you beat me to it on posting it :D. How's the experience been using boostnote?
How about we wait for the problem to present it and actually cause harm before we throw law enforcement, government regulation, a regulatory body, etc at it?
When will this company just go away ... after everything it's done ... it's now killing innocent people!
Easily my favorite smart TV UI I've ever been burdened with, for what it's worth. I doubt we'll see a smartphone push with it... but hey, a guy can hope for a new open source OS option.
> The root problem is that that there isn't enough specific new information to slow down the discussion and make it substantial. Lacking that, people recycle the generic points.

Is there a term for this tendency? Curious to read the research on it.
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One thing I would like is to start writing a bit more but in the beginning, I don't want to pay for my own domain? Is there any alternative to medium which supports custom domain?
A while back I was riding my bicycle home from work and saw one of the Uber robocars coming the other direction while I was making a left turn so decided to test their reaction algorithm by starting my turn while they were still approaching -- car didn't even flinch while a human driver would've at the very least honked at me.

As an aside, I've also been hit in a bike lane in Tempe by a human driver unfortunately, if it were a robocar I'd be living on the beach somewhere off the settlement check.
You're making an observation about what it's like in an urban area. Sadly, in a suburban area like Tempe the presence of any pedestrian anywhere is unexpected.
That only works for vehicles on dedicated separate paths.
The number one thing is that you have to be reciprocal. As mentioned in a different comment I recently moved across the country to a new city where I did not know anyone. I would meet people at random events, connect with them, and then invite them and whoever else they wanted to bring along to different events I heard about when looking for things online. I was very aggressive in telling my friends about different events via text and organizing that way. I did this with 3-4 well connected people and then they started texting me about interesting things they found that I could go to and invite friends of my own. Once this was established both me and my friend(s) would text each other and ask about plans for the weekend.

If you're planning something large I understand that something like Facebook is required. But if you're just trying to get a few friends together I don't see why you can't do it via text.
What visa is doing? Can you elaborate?
There's also some weirdness with including quasi-state owned entities.
But this is precisely why you should simply extrapolate. Of course people ask, and of course the answer will be useful. But extrapolating one figure of 3M miles to a typical measure (per 100M) is not useful because it provides no actionable information.

Providing this likely wrong number anchors a value in people’s minds.

It’s actually worse than saying “we don’t know the rate compared to human drivers because there’s not enough miles driven.”

Your other points are valid but don’t excuse poor data methods hygiene.

Even now you are making baseless data on its face because you don’t know the human fatality rate per 3M enough to say is “significantly higher.” Although I think it’s easier to find enough data from the human driver data to match similar samples to Uber. But dividing by 33 is not sufficient to support your statement.

I haven’t seen data on the public reporting. That seems interesting and would appreciate it if you can link to it.
I wonder how this will be treated legally.

Police can't just write "killed by python script" as a cause of death, that would be crazy, and there is no legal framework for cases like that. My guess is that A.I. could be equated to cruise-control, meaning person behind the wheel is responsible.

Maybe someone knows better?
It seems like you're looking at the wrong post from the whoishiring account. You want to "freelancer" threads. (Seen here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16492995)

Additionally, if you're looking for work, why are you using a throwaway account?
>$4 for a salad is very expensive to me

i would be extremely happy to eat a meal at $4. these days i end up spending >10$ on a meal, and I am not even living in a big city in US.
> Are you working on the next season of Black Mirror?

In Black Mirror, all cars in the world will simultaneously swerve into nearby pedestrians, buildings, or other cars.
I think Tech Support: Error Unknown is the perfect title.
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> - Screen space ambient occlusion, if using SAO, is amazing.

Yeah, no. It still looks like "draw a blurry black halo around edges and call it a day" ambient occlusion.
It's something closer to the latter--presumably, it was scraping what friends posted publicly.
There are soooo many instances of negligent drivers killing cyclists with basically no follow-up from the police. Police all over the US seem to consider cyclists as second-class road users, and trust the driver when they say a cyclist "came out of nowhere". Since these sorts of collisions are more often fatal for the cyclist than the driver, there often isn't anyone to tell the other side of the story. There are rarely criminal charges, and even more rarely convictions (juries are mostly drivers, not cyclists).
Ad Tech has no need for realtime data viewing or aggregation (in this manner), even for platform log data. Offline parallel processing is the standard. Redshift is particularly efficient, while others use Spark or other ad-hoc solutions.

For users, you always want mediation/adjustment steps that (can) modify realtime data to provide timesliced totals. For developers/administrators, you want to be able to persist data. Running totals in memory are too fragile to be reliable. There is an assumption of errors, misconfigurations, and bad actors at all times in AdTech.
>You need general AI before AI can drive a car

1.3 million people died in the USA from car crashes in 2017. An additional 20-50 million are injured. You don't need to be perfect, you just need to be better than the baseline.

That said, and to be fair to your feelings, Uber certainly is not better. This is a fact I'm sure lawmakers in Arizona are discussing right now.
Everyone sets up their own account's privacy settings though, and as far as I know, this information didn't include anything that wasn't already publicly available.
I generally agree. I think moral consequences become especially relevant in the field of AGI.
Why should the person who profits most be held the most responsible? Suppose the person in charge of safety clearance makes less money than the original developer. How does that shift responsibility to the developer, as opposed to the situation where the developer makes less money?
While you're admonishing people for their comments and employing stealth implicature like, "let's make sure Uber releases detailed data", do you think that maybe you should include a prominent notice disclosing your (and your former colleagues') ties to the industry that Uber is operating in—most importantly as a competitor?
Anyone remembers Intel's Larrabee project? It featured HW accelerated raytracing. They had Quake Wars running on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_Wars:_Ray_Traced or video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtHDSG2wNho
The talent is also considerably more expensive and not substantially better unless you need people in a specific niche. And if you really need talent from SF, you could always hire them on remotely.
> …statistically self-driving cars have killed less people than human drivers?

I realise that the point you're making is about emotional turmoil and not really statistics, but it looks like so far Uber aren't doing so well in terms of driving safety:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16620736

So yeah, if it turned out that Uber were sending cars out into the world without sufficient engineering or testing* and they killed someone (especially someone I know) then I would be understandably furious.

* In order to get to market sooner? I don't trust Uber and I wouldn't put this past them. Nothing I have seen of the Uber self-driving car program makes me want to be anywhere near one on a road.
I think it's very relevant. If the testing protocols are insufficient to prevent an avoidable accident within an outer bound of accident rates. If it is a clear data point outside those bounds (even with uncertainty) one could make a case to severely limit or ban Uber's testing on public roads, and require that they demonstrate sufficient maturity of testing procedures and data to be allowed back onto the roads. This as opposed for waiting for another 'data point' (death).
This where the quotes around "benevolence" would come in. I'm a total fanboy for PUBG, so take this with a grain of salt, I totally understand why Bluehole threatened to sue when Fortnite released its PUBG copy. Now PUBG is in-and-of itself a copy of a copy (turtles all the way...) of a mod, so a lot of people balked at this.

PUBG had made quite a bit of money for Epic, through the UE4 licencing fees. This is akin to Amazon noticing how much money you made them through AWS and deciding to offer a free (arguably better, although I've never played more than 5 minutes of Fortnite, too much cartoon!) version of your product.

TBH, that analogy may be a bit unfair, but Epic is no saint.
>If someone calls my bank and convinces customer service they are me, it would be reasonable to say the bank was breached. Not electronically. But breached nonetheless.

That's a bad analogy. A more appropriate one would be if you called your bank and told them to allow a 3rd party to have access to all of your accounts, then blamed your bank when the 3rd party drained all your accounts.

Facebook has no obligation to protect your data from yourself any more than your bank has the obligation to control what you spend your money on.
For those looking for the source: https://github.com/webosose/build-webos.git will get you started.
I'm far from being an Uber-supporter here but I think you're overreacting. As others have pointed out, this story is only relevant to HN (and to the national media at large) because it involves Uber and AV, not because it involved a pedestrian dying. It makes sense that the discussion centers around policy and systems since few people here can claim to have even known the victim. Nor does participating in this discussion preclude anyone from going to the victim's Facebook page/funeral and expressing condolences.
Reminds me about this comment a few weeks ago (which made an impression on me) :

>'How low has the SW development bar gone, if "it's okay" now means "at least it's not directly killing people"?'
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16541235

We now see the standard has slipped to:
"Is the death of one person relatively so bad? People die every day."

Next a large crowd of people will be killed and the standard will become:
"It's not so bad compared to creating skynet or starting thermonuclear war."

I'm not sure what comes after that.
It would be great to have a link to the paper. Is it on Arxiv or anywhere else where we can download it from.

I was speculating wildly here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16621633 is any of that remotely close
A person was not killed by a computer. There was a person behind the wheel responsible for taking control of the car in a situation like this. If this is a computer killing someone, then every instance of a person being killed while cruise control was engaged also counts.
I agree with the final paragraph in your comment. All I'm saying is let's reserve judgement until we know what happened.

As for a fatality proving that due care was not taken, I agree. It doesn't tell you who failed to take due care though.