skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Yes i think is correct, so the data could be sold by either Facebook, spotify (or both) to 3rd parties.

(Direct quotes from their privacy policy below)

"Consistent with the permissions you give us to collect the information, we may use the information we collect, including your personal information:

1. to provide, personalise, and improve your experience with the Service and products, services, and advertising (including for third party products and services) made available on or outside the Service (including on other sites that you visit), for example by providing customised, personalised, or localised content, recommendations, features, and advertising on or outside of the Service;"

....

And here are some of the parts about data collection:

"We may also collect other information available on or through your Third Party Application account, including, for example, your name, profile picture, country, hometown, email address, date of birth, gender, friends’ names and profile pictures, and networks.

You may also choose to voluntarily add other information to your profile, such as your mobile phone number and mobile service provider.

...

"When you use or interact with the Service, we may use a variety of technologies that collect information about how the Service is accessed and used. This information may include:

information about your type of subscription and your interactions with the Service, such as interactions with songs, playlists, other audiovisual content, other Spotify users, Third Party Applications, and advertising, products, and services which are offered, linked to, or made available on or through the Service;

The details of the queries you make and the date and time of your request;
User Content (as defined in the Terms and Conditions of Use) you post to the Service including messages you send and/or receive via the Service;
technical data, which may include URL information, cookie data, your IP address, the types of devices you are using to access or connect to the Spotify Service, unique device ID, device attributes, network connection type (e.g., WiFi, 3G, LTE) and provider, network and device performance, browser type, language, information enabling digital rights management, operating system, and Spotify application version.
motion-generated or orientation-generated mobile sensor data (e.g., accelerometer or gyroscope).

You may integrate your Spotify account with Third Party Applications. If you do, we may receive similar information related to your interactions with the Service on the Third Party Application, as well as information about your publicly available activity on the Third Party Application. This includes, for example, your “Like”s and posts on Facebook. We may use cookies and other technologies to collect this information; you can learn more about such use in the section Information about cookies and other technologies of this Privacy Policy."
Building the World's Most Powerful Telescope
It was the standard Harvard Extension ALB [0]. You can optionally choose a Field of Study, which was CompSci in my case. And then if you qualify as a special student you can take almost any course in the college or grad school. It's a very flexible program. You get out what you put in.

[0] https://www.extension.harvard.edu/academics/undergraduate-de...
This is exactly it. I see people mentioning seeing the victim at the last second but these vehicles are supposed to be better. They scan in non visible spectrums with LIDAR. Lack of safety vest, lack of headlights, none of it is supposed to matter... or at least it shouldn't completely compromise the vehicle's systems. Camera's may not work as well but an obstacle directly in the path should still be detected. Especially an obstacle that would reflect LIDAR and give off a very obvious infrared signature.

This video also shows another point I made recently in a conversation. People need stimulus to keep them alert and focused. I don't think it's at all reasonable to expect someone to sit idly with almost no interaction or responsibility and expect them to stay alert. The human brain doesn't function that way.
Let us know what kind of riveting discussions you have with racists, sexists, and conspiracy theorists.
I don't think it to be a controversial statement, I know it to be controversial. Just look at the other reply posted at exactly the same time as yours with someone saying they totally expect pedestrians crossing illegally wearing black at night.

The last thread about this contained a very long argument from some Europeans who disagree with the core concept of "jaywalking". Some people really do hold the belief that roads are for pedestrians first and cars last, contrary to US law.
I checked /r/gundeals on nearly a daily basis and never saw anything illegal[0]. I can't find the full rules to the sub anymore [1], but I believed they banned posting gun sales that weren't through an FFL (which is actually stricter than the law).

[0] there were products that aren't legal in certain states or cities, but nothing that is illegal at the fed level.
It'd be nice if some telemetry came out, when the car started to brake, steering inputs, etc.
I feel two emotions here. On one hand, and firstly, awe. That these great men come along and make these profound, lasting contributions to all humanity. I feel gratitude towards them.

Then I feel sad and envious, that I've also dedicated my entire life to this field but that lifelong pursuit will never yield anything even close to meaningful enough to win a Turing award.
Do we know the vehicle didn't brake? There's no audio to tell us anything, and a car takes "almost a second" to rock forward on its suspension when reacting to brake input too. FWIW, I think I might see the nose bobbing a bit just before the collision, but honestly can't tell.

I certainly don't think you can say "did not attempt to brake" based on the evidence at hand, basically.
Supreme Judicial Bullshit
Similar to how other bans get carried out. Make it illegal and send those who violate the law to jail.
Apple pretends to care about privacy as long as it is good for the bottom line.
Yeah but the car has IR/LIDAR does it not? Low light should not be a problem there.

I would expect if IR/LIDAR are working properly the car would see the pedestrian as if broad, bright daylight, so why no reaction at all?
The state of official anime subs is just bad everywhere. Crunchyroll's are not-infrequently total gibberish. Netflix's handling of signs is indeed awful but they do at least (usually) write decent translations. I won't say that fansubs are any better on average but the only actual well-done subs are all fansubs which is kind of sad.
yeah, CA was willfully stoking hate in its audience with hateful propaganda, and the Obama campaign literally did not do that. There is no equivalency
I thought self driving cars had radar. How is this in any way excusable? This looks like it should have been trivial to detect and avoid.
Folks bring up the Obama comparison... because... well... its a pretty comparable situation.

I'm not so charitable towards the public.

I wouldn't place any bets that the striking wave of outrage directed at Facebook right now isn't strictly related to the outcome. In this case, that outcome is Trump in the White-house. Not that that isn't a good reason to be outraged - but I don't think its a very principled reason.
>This person is not describing gentrification

Are you sure?

> A large influx of people into your area is almost guaranteed to [lead to] possible demographic shifts that marginalize your culture.

Gentrification sure sounds like an instance of that, and I've been hearing about techies pushing out hippies and artists for about as long as I've been old enough to pay attention. The fear of cultural change in SF is a constant enough thread in SF that a knee-jerk reaction that it's racial seems like an uncharitable reading.
There is not only continuing and stopping, there is also slowing down, as many human drivers do as well in unclear situations.
Citation needed.

Sure....coming right up! How about a statement from Obama's former campaign director saying that they "sucked out the whole of the social graph" with Facebook's blessings?

https://twitter.com/cld276/status/975568130117459975
Really hard to tell. I suspect it's the camera that is really mediocre and that the street is probably reasonable visible to a human...
Very informative article. Sheds more light into the emerging nuclear weapons race.
This was really an opportunity for an autonomous car to shine. I actually expect that a Tesla collision detection system would have picked this up and braked (although I'm not 100% how it works on humans vs cars).
Absolutely love my Outback + Eyesight. That said, the lane assist and automatic cruise control are not very sophisticated.

The automatic cruise control is great for freeway and some street driving, but don't expect it to brake very smoothly / like a human. I consider it outsourcing part of my concentration.

Lane assist is nice, but it won't auto-center -- if you were take your hands off the wheel on a straightaway it would "ping-pong" back and forth. I mostly like it on long drives, reduces the amount of effort on bends.
>So all you have is a gut feeling.

Seeing three separate real estate agents having nothing but Chinese brochures in their offices tells me they aren't expecting locals to be buying from them.

>Thousands of units hitting the market each month is a LOT.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/8731.0

This has been going on for close to 10 years now.
Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16643056.
oof. As a motorcycle rider Looking at the video is hard. Im always vigilant but sadly, I'd probably have plowed right through the woman. The street lights seem to do absolutely nothing.

People are unpredictable...however this kind of crossing feels familiar. In Los Angeles we have transients that are known to wander through 5 lanes of empty street at 5 AM with impunity. Ive been hard-stopped by wagon trails of shopping carts laden with old rags and garbage, being pulled by an elderly sisyphean figure cloaked in old comforters and tarpaulins. Ive also had the unfortunate luck to see a garbage truck plow through a stolen utility cart from Home Depot, conveniently parked by a homeless woman in the center of an off ramp as she was engaged in a furious battle with unseen forces under an adjacent bridge.

Transients are also struck and killed on our highways almost semi annually. not to mention the occasional car-through-a-homeless-camp
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/los-angeles-homeless-camp-hit-c...

My point is, its easy to sensationalize a computers miscalculation. Humans in control may have also made this mistake.
Anyone here have expertise on the state of law governing autonomous vehicles? I know that AZ is supposed to be lax compared to California, so I wonder if there is any situation in which Uber could be at fault (besides a civil suit from victim's family)?

Let's say that the car's LIDAR was indeed dysfunctional, or obviously inferior compared to the industry standard. It could be a hardware problem, or the software attached -- e.g. the Uber AV classified the victim as a large paper bag. What legal framework is there to assign fault to company/manufacturer in an accident like this, other than design/planning that is obviously malicious or grossly negligent?

In other words, is there any situation where Uber (or Waymo, etc) could be found legally at fault in a state like Arizona, no matter how badly their vehicle performs in an accident?
It is one of the classics as far as I'm concerned. Anyone doing systems work should read it.
Or vote and be politically active.

Ignoring that as a rational choice for many people already in expensive areas is just asking for your proposals to fail.

We very frequently talk about the economic value that could be produced by different housing actions, but policy is not purely determined by economic value. I know more people opposed to upzoning because they like their yards and their space than because they're worried about their property values (denser cities in the US are very rarely cheaper).
Most cameras have very poor contrast in low light situations that are interspaced with lights like a typical street with streetlamps, your eye does significantly better.
IJR is an extremely biased source
> Yet this crash proves that all the equipment in the world didn't catch a very obvious obstruction.

Seems more likely that it's a software problem. Especially given the rest of Uber's behavior, I wouldn't be surprised if they're aggressively shipping incomplete/buggy software in the name of catching up to more careful competitors like Waymo.
Shouldn't the card have been driving with its brights on? I mean... she was already crossing so she didn't come out of a corner or something and I have a feeling that with brights on she could have been seen. Also, there doesn't seem to be other cars in the opposite direction or anything for which the car shouldn't have had its brights on.
There is a suddenness to this episode that deserves some examination. For years, Facebook has been violating people's privacy. For years, people went along with it. Perhaps on some level, people were disturbed by it, but they weren't angry enough to do anything about it.

If we were discussing economics, then we would call this a Minsky moment[1]. If you substitute "trust" for "money" then this almost fits:

"A Minsky moment is a sudden major collapse of asset values which is part of the credit cycle or business cycle. Such moments occur because long periods of prosperity and increasing value of investments lead to increasing speculation using borrowed money."

But I think we are also seeing a sudden moral panic, like the one that destroyed MySpace in 2006. danah boyd wrote about that at the time[2]:

"Because of their position of power, outsiders are pushing the big red emergency button, screaming danger and creating a complete and utter moral panic. Welcome to a generational divide, where adults are unable to see the practices of their children on kids' terms. If MySpace falters in the next 1-2 years, it will be because of this moral panic."

But those children grew up. The 16 year old of 2006 is now 28. So this moral panic is a bit different. It's not adults freaking out about what is being done to kids, it's adults freaking out about what is being done to themselves.

Mind you, I think it's obvious that Facebook has behaved very badly, so this episode of castigation is well deserved. But the suddenness of it makes me think there is also an element of panic.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsky_moment

[2] https://www.danah.org/papers/FriendsterMySpaceEssay.html
Not a suburu but my passat engaged emergency breaking once. It's was kinda spooky to go for the break and realize its already depressed. Definitely prevented an accident. I was paying attention too, but someone jumped into my lane and slammed their breaks on for who knows why, there wasn't anything in the road...
I think the point GP was making is that an attentive human driver may have been able to see the pedestrian much earlier than when she becomes visible on the video.
Just like drugs. It’s easy.
I think this seems like exactly the scenario that autonomous driving vehicles are intended to prevent. may be optimistic.

Lots of people are hoping they will prevent such scenarios, the motivation for fielding them is more related to making lots of money.
Indeed! To LIDAR, she was basically standing in the lane, with a bulky bicycle. To visible light, including the driver, who was apparently half asleep or watching the dashboard, she was in shadow until just before the collision.

So yes, LIDAR should have caught this. Easily. So something was clearly misconfigured. And even if the driver had been carefully watching the road, he probably wouldn't have seen her in time.

But I wonder, is there a LIDAR view on the dashboard?
If someone doesn't have the power to change the contract, then they don't have the power to negotiate with me. And if they don't have the power to negotiate with me, then what business do they have offering me a contract to sign?
I think it could have stopped safely. Assuming it has quicker reactions than a human, stopping distance should be around 18 meters. I think it just completely missed her.

Edit: critical typo
Why not Spotify?
Anyone here have expertise on the current state of law governing autonomous vehicles? I know AZ is supposed to be lax compared to California, so I wonder if there is any situation in which Uber could be at fault (besides a civil suit from victim's family)?
Let's say that the car's LIDAR was indeed dysfunctional, or obviously inferior compared to the industry standard. It could be a hardware problem, or the software attached -- e.g. the Uber AV classified the victim as a large paper bag. What legal framework is there to assign fault to company/manufacturer in an accident like this, other than design/planning that is obviously malicious or grossly negligent?

In other words, is there any situation where Uber (or Waymo, etc) could be found legally at fault in a state like Arizona, no matter how badly their vehicle performs in an accident?
This is the 21st century equivalent to burning books.
It's a video.. it was likely not as dark as portrayed.
Donating to NPR doesn't reduce the number of NPR pledge drive announcements you hear.
For some reason my prior comment with sources was deleted, so here goes again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1129&v=LGiiQUMaS....

"We were able to ingest the entire social network of the US."

https://twitter.com/cld276/status/975568130117459975

"Facebook was surprised we were able to suck out the whole social graph, but they didn’t stop us once they realized that was what we were doing."

"They came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side."
According to the videos of Waymo’s cars, their cars would’ve seen her. Lidar should be more effective at night.

I guess it’s obvious Uber didn’t steal their tech. I was on their side from the initial reports but there’s no reason that should’ve happened if that car was equipped with lidar.
It's combination of priorities, capabilities and money. If Russia can maintain credible second strike capability that survives the first strike, detecting attack is not necessary. Russia chose to develop new second strike weapons that survive surprise first strike with the limited resources it has.

Nuclear long range torpedo and Nuclear powered cruise missile that Russia is developing is just that kid of weapon. They are relatively easy to hide and incredibly difficult to intercept (U.S. had similar development in 60's. Google: Project Pluto and SLAM)
Unfortunately, racists, sexists and conspiracy theorists appear to be the only people who still believe in freedom of speech, and are willing to fight to keep it.

Even many of the "hackers" around here seem to support regulation and censorship.
Maybe we just don’t have the tech yet to make it work. At the very least, Uber surely doesn’t. There’s no way the car didn’t see her, but it didn’t react, which means it failed to recognize what it was seeing.

This is pretty much the worst case scenario.
Isn’t that why Colorado cities are some of the hottest markets to be in right now? I’ve heard a lot of complaining from people in Denver, Boulder, Aspen, etc.
Which makes me wonder if the Uber autocar is just relying on camera vision to drive itself... If it is, and it's been lying to authorities (I don't know what they said to the authorities about their cars' capabilities), that could be big.
1) I'd hope and assume that an autonomous vehicle would have better sensors than a single mounted video camera. It does have other sensors that it uses, right? Were they all operational? What do they show? Combined, do they have dynamic response comparable to the human eye?

2) The road seems really dark. Are the headlights intentionally dimmed here? At night, on a empty road with no opposing traffic, shouldn't the headlights normally be on bright, rather than dimmed? Does the autonomous vehicle control this switch or the human driver?

3) I feel like a human driver would have been likely to swerve left to avoid the human. They may still have hit the rear of the bicycle, but no one would have died. Does the car even attempt to prioritize collisions with inanimate objects over living ones? Does it at least attempt to slow down if a collision seems inevitable?

4) If you cannot stop in time to avoid an obstacle on the road after it is illuminated by your headlights, it would seem clear that you are travelling "too fast for conditions". Either you need brighter lights, or a you need to slow down. Is this in dispute?
I sometimes have trouble figuring out what lane an oncoming car is on, with glasses, in daytime. It wouldn't surprise me if she was absent-mindedly taking a familiar route to her homeless camp and mistakenly thought the car was on the left lane.
How to build a computer with free will
Probably the most egregious example would be Weev/Andew Auernheimer and AT&T

https://www.wired.com/2013/03/att-hacker-gets-3-years/
https://www.wired.com/2014/04/att-hacker-conviction-vacated/
"tldr; a human driver may or may not have done better."...that's not a very helpful summary. Sounds very oxymoronic.
I'd be really interested to know if there are folks out there who enjoy Java programming as compared to the alternatives out there today.

Does Java fill any kind of niche aside from maintaining those gargantuan projects that are typical of governments and large corporations?

When I learned Java in the 90s, it was hyped up with the promise of microwaves and refrigerators and televisions and every little thing running Java software.

Instead, the only time I've found myself turning to Java was when I built an IDE on top of eclipse for a custom programming language, a few android apps, a few swing projects for school, and a few socket based projects. When dealing with IOT and smaller hardware, I've found myself using node(js) instead.

I've rarely ever found it enjoyable. The IDEs have been sluggish, the GUI libraries have felt cheap and unpolished, with those clunky diamond shaped radio buttons, and I always found myself writing too much code to do very simple stuff, because every library was wordy and verbose. When I looked at my work, it felt inelegant and cumbersome.

What is Java like in 2018? Are there any good, polished open source projects that work well ? What would make you look at a project and say "I think Java is the most suitable choice for that" today?
What's your point? She wasn't driving a car. Imagine if the uber hardware was installed into a petrol tanker. It just just as pointless a discussion.

If self driving cars can't be trusted to not smash into any obstacle that appears such as a deer/roadwork/child/runaway shopping cart, then they shouldn't be permitted on the road.
An interesting decision. I guess they’re playing it safe but it’s hard to see how reddit could be held liable for people using their site to exchange beer.
The EyeSight system uses a pair of cameras — black and white, I think — mounted on the interior roof. With it, you get front collision avoidance.
Right. This really is the worst case scenario for Uber, the worst set of circumstances you could have deduced from the original report; the only excuse they have is that it was dark, and if you can only see about 20 feet in front of you, it's clearly insane to be driving 40mph.

And it doesn't seem like there's any braking at all, even once she's visible. Really really bad.
Blonde Female CEO = tech goggles for rich old men.
Status-6 is supposedly nuclear powered, so its range is effectively unlimited.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_...
Mobile number checks are almost trivial to circumvent - you can get a DID with SMS capability from a VOIP provider for under a buck, just use it once and throw it away.