skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Sorry, should have included this!

3¾c. of brownie mix (again, Betty Crocker Original Supreme)
2 eggs
¼c. water
⅓c. vegetable oil
and the included packet of Hershey's syrup

The baking times on the old box were: for 13x9 pan, 28-30m at 350°, for 9x9 pan, 35-40m at 350°, and for 8x8 pan, 50-55m at 325°. (We usually use the 13x9, can't speak as much to the other sizes.)

As of the original redesign mentioned in the story, the amount of brownie mix in a box was cut back to 3 cups, the recipe involved 1 egg instead of 2, and I don't remember how the water and oil were affected but they were different.
Why is it a bad idea?

And I doubt _any_ business has centralized their communications with Slack. I’m sure they are still using phones, and email and face to face communication.
This is ]conjecture.

In reality the CPC are technocrats in every sense of the word. Many of them are engineers and they possess an engineer's faith in innovation. The idea of them squashing innovation is silly. Look at the enormous investments in electric cars, AI, mobile computing and genetic engineering. Westerners will deny it until it's way too late but the amount of innovation going on in China right now is mind blowing.

Which is the point -- the Chinese will more than likely win this technology "race." Because the West isn't really competing. The days of Western governments pouring real wealth into research and development is over. What you have is very few highly innovative firms and a few military contractors competing against the highly coordinated political-economic-military complex of China. The outlook does not look good.

I suspect this is why ultimately companies like Apple and Microsoft and even Tesla are so focused on getting a foothold into China. These guys know where the future is and they want to be at the table when it happens.
Email does many things, but "works great" isn't one of them. PGP even less.
I expect it is something that Alexa "hears" and that is the specific response. If you say "Alexa laugh" is that the exact sound that comes back? I will check when I get home. Mine is always misunderstanding what I say. So a false activation + misunderstanding would explain this.

Also, article says it happens often as a bizarre response to requests to turn of the lights. Maybe "lights" is being interpreted as "laugh" as in a command.
You didn't say "You're wrong," you started mentioning other things which might be significant expenses also. I personally upvoted because I was giving the benefit of the doubt. In the response, you proved me wrong; you were mentioning other things not because you thought they were comparable, but as a way to discount the thing you were replying to. You weren't actually interested in whether the costs you mentioned were comparable to the cost of a commute, you just wanted to silence the comparison for some reason.

I'm assuming it was based on the law of averages, aka there's some things here and some things there, it probably all washes out in the end, but I think it's better to actually add everything up than to assume. Useful?
And we already have all the empty oil wells to pump the fuel back in.

One might wonder why we took something out, only to put it back in, but ours is not to question why.
You want IRC to have a kitchen sink. But IRC is perfect for it's intended scope. You get to use whatever other service you want for sending files or sharing images. All you have to do is link to it.
> This week: Nunberg subpoenaed, couldn’t stop blabbing; Kellyanne said to have violated ethics law; Carson realized HUD’s complicated; Cohn quit, over tariffs not anti-Semitism; Guy from UAE who knows stuff, cooperating w/Mueller; Trump tweeted there’s no chaos; It’s only Tuesday.

If you consider all of that ‘news’ rather than mostly rumor and spectacle, then you probably fit in with the social media news crowd.

I personally don’t see anything on that list that’s worthy of being called News, and certainly not anything I’d need to read about the day it happened. The closets might be the Mueller thing, but even that is technically hearsay until mueller’s next report comes out - then it’s news.
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It does (though these particular three I don't know how common they are); Probably in IRCv3 too for all I know.

UPDATE: changed because I read this wrong; but the answer is still "yes, this would have been relatively easy for them to do".
What we learned: science matters. Or does it?
I often like to revisit the Japanese concept of zone planning. Mostly it's based on how much impact activities have on neighboring land / buildings.

http://urbankchoze.blogspot.com/2014/04/japanese-zoning.html

It's from a while back... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8540845
There is an actual Hindi aphorism which is similar, basically: "the language and the water change every five miles"
That's silly. That probably costs them $0.XX to make.

Loyalty apps/datasets literally print money in comparison.
I've heard that using Slack with biboumi as a gateway is better than their gateway ever was, but can't say myself. I'd be curious to get your experience if you try it.
Any chance the original Pixel's kernel version (3.18) got updated ? All android devices get frozen in time with the kernel they ship with due to blobs. Nothing new. Just checking if that is ever going to change.
Did Slack ever really embrace and extend IRC and XMPP though? It always seemed to be some kind of hack to get your messages there to begin with.
Avoiding a credit card processing fee could be done the same with with a punch card.
I get what you're saying, and I'm saying that what you're saying is both pedantic and not borne out by evidence.

The paper you linked concludes that reasoning (when done correctly) works as intended regardless of the motives for reasoning. Given that reasoning (when done correctly) works regardless of the motives for reasoning, when people incorrectly reason that a news source is neutral, it indicates that reasoning was not done correctly, and that their motivations for reasoning aren't a constructive explanation for why they didn't reason correctly (i.e. your point is pedantic).

Further, the article you linked doesn't go so far as to disagree with my point--it doesn't make the mistake you're making, which is to assume that people can't want more than one thing. People can want to base their news source to be neutral AND people can want to feel good (i.e. not feel cognitive dissonance). Even if you were to somehow prove your not-evident point, it doesn't give you a basis to disagree with what I said, unless you can prove that people want to feel good to the exclusion of all other things they want from their news source. The article doesn't say that (i.e. your point is not borne out by evidence, even the evidence that you presented).
Are you aware that 'your data' can involve your reactions and small actions like mouse moments and that all that data can be used to steer your emotions and behaviour without you noticing it.

Then there is the the combined effect of everyones data that is threatening.
If you have a lifted 4wd vehicle, you don't even need stands or ramps!
The Left-Handed Kid: On the Chinese Typewriter
Cheeky response w/o actually understanding isn't correct here. Slack's active window sits around that amount on my computer as well, but under the hood it's actually using closer to 670MB with all processes.
Ξεκινούν οι πραγματικές μάχες στο Γιουρόπα Λιγκ
My Senior Design Project, for getting my BS in Computer Engineering, was around indoor positioning. Granted we did it with Bluetooth and not Wi-Fi, but it's awesome that there'll be an API for it.
You can't beat certificate pinning with offline analysis?
https://outline.com/A23jTv
I've seen a ton of custom hole punches being used in this case more than stamps.
And what are called "dialects" in the Chinese context are just as much dialects as French, Italian, and Romanian are "dialects" of Romance.
Agreed. I've only been using facebook through my phone's web browser and (at least for what I do) it's totally fine. Is there something the app gives you? Maybe for folks who use messages or want notifications...?
Quantified self apps e.g. Human, Moves.
Not just factually. They have a lot more shared assumptions with each other than independent news sources do.
FeatureFlags.io is owned and operated by the CTO of LaunchDarkly. It’s not a survey, it’s an infomercial / microsite for LaunchDarkly. It states “contributed by LaunchDarkly” at the bottom, but considering it’s owned by them that doesn’t seem to adequately sum up the situation. Not sure why they wouldn’t just call it as it is.
Actually, they can.

Also - by securities law you're required to report and even make a bid for the business once you cross a certain threshold of ownership.
> After years of evolving, Slack is at the point where the gateways can no longer handle all of our features or security needs.

Oops. They misspelled "where we are dominant enough that we have more to lose than gain by being able to interoperate with our competitors."
Yes, it is. It also runs like poop.
Not for google play services or google apps, which gmail is. The AOSP tracker will have AOSP related bug information.
I am not an expert in this at all, but I would think they would need special permission from apple; many of these undocumented APIs get your app auto rejected.
You're right I should have mentioned it. I thought about it but the text was getting too long already and I was in a hurry.
A company is only people after all. Once a small start up is taken over there will be a clock ticking for a lot of the engineers who will leave when they can sell their shares. Having a larger number of people involved, including newer people (with no shares) mitigates this.
As someone that makes casino games and is an active gambler, I have to disagree with this assessment. The amount of money a person initially brings to the casino is often a function of many variables of their life outside the scope of a casino visit. I've gone to the casino with $500 (my ATM limit) alongside someone who brought $5,000 only to see us both end up with $1,000 in our respective pockets. The different variables that caused us to bring the initial sums definitely influenced our behavior once the values equalized. Income, assets, risk adverseness, etc. that all influence the initial sum still come into effect later on when the sums equalize.
Because diversity emerges, like it or not. Go back far enough and Swedish and Nepali were dialects of the same language.
Well, Target was doing just that a few years ago, using patterns they noticed among purchasers.
The laugh in the article is very different from the laugh I get when I ask Alexa to laugh. She just says "Tee Hee!" after telling you she can laugh.
The SEC generally applies the "Howey test"[0] when deciding is something is to be declared as a security or not. It is "a contract, transaction or scheme whereby a person invests his money in a common enterprise and is led to expect profits solely from the efforts of the promoter or a third party."
So a token from an ICO that might accumulate in value if the team delivers is a security. A pure utility token or cryptocurrency is not. This is a major reason why many ICOs shoehorn in some kind of use for their token in their platform (when they could just have used e.g. ETH for payment) in order to skirt being classified as a security.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_v._W._J._Howey_Co.
>Brains don't forget because they can't find the file...

Isn't this what the expression "It's on the tip of my tongue" refers to? You know you have the name/word/??? somewhere in your brain, but you can't access it.
Typical hackernews half-off-topic reposte. Not even sure why I bother...

> There are times when you absolutely DO want to use image surfaces, such as when you need raw access to the pixel data, or if you want to combine cairo rendering with something else.

And at that point, you really can't complain about Cairo being slow, can you? You're not even doing vector graphics at this point, you're back in raster graphics territory. Cairo would have been a better library if the image surface was only public in debug builds, forcing developers to learn and understand the implications of using it or reinventing it yourself with some combination of calls that end in XGetImage or XPutImage which has plenty of neon lights around it reminding people that it's slow to do these operations.

Literally any raster API that has to download the image from the server, change a pixel, and put the image back on the server is going to be slow. This is precisely why X extensions like Xdamage and Xrender exist to attempt to mitigate the damage by manipulating smaller image regions (less data to download/upload) and pushing operations server-side, and why X APIs like "XPutPixel" exist. But there are limits to just how good these things can ever be; they're going to be limited by GPU-to-main-memory bandwidth and CPU rendering speeds _always_.

These raster problems are why UI toolkits have moved on to using OpenGL( ES) and Wayland and similar architectures on other OSes; OpenGL, despite its flaws, makes it very explicit when you're doing obviously slow things like download/modify/upload and has tools that make it easy to avoid the need to do these roundtrips, and Wayland doesn't know so much what a "pixel" is, just how to move buffers around and notionally where those buffers are in space - it's up to the compositor's implementation to figure out how to put together the actual images in buffers and put them on output devices.

> It was a looong while since I used cairo so I don't know if my information is correct,

And this seems to be the recurring problem... everyone's moved on, cairo's now "infrastructure", nobody gives a damn about infrastructure until it's crumbling, and then it's hard to find anyone to devote resources to repairing and maintaining infrastructure... Luckily, Federico's good at these things, and has historically been good at finding devs to give him a hand.

I can't really tell you anything about your pixman patches though, besides the fact that pixman's practically unmaintained too (see my first post about how the devs moved on), it's shared infrastructure with the X server, and nobody really wants to touch it because it's "stable" and was mostly written before the era of unit tests and CI/CD so it's hard to prove changes to it are correct across all of the various platforms and use cases it has to support... It's like trying to change Win32 APIs, only worse because people are still building Xorg on bizarro platforms and architectures you won't have access to test on.

Your best bet is to actually bug developers with commit access to review/push your patches and then work your way up to commit access and start actually maintaining this stuff.
I prefer 867-5309.
That looks super interesting. That might be the reason to finally push me from self hosted znc to irc cloud.
We already know XMPP has issues, but these aren't enough to cause its continual addition to chat apps and then removal. More than likely, the "problem" with these protocols is that they don't help a company's bottom line, engagement, etc.
Where are you renting these machines?
Ask HN: Should I incorporate before launching mvp?
Their customers love it, and with customers I mean advertisers. For users to leave there must be somewhere to leave to. And there needs to be another business model that does not depend on marketing. Maybe selling actual hardware, with built in social media.
Those APIs will probably be deprecated soon enough.
Sadly upzoning those areas still won't be enough housing. And some areas (like piers along the Embarcadero) the neighbourhoods like Telegraph Hill viciously oppose them too.

I don't think the "neighbourhood character" test really holds much muster. Maybe if you bought one of the Painted Ladies, or are on a street that is 90%+ Victorians. Maybe.

I live on 18th and there are few Victorians left. There are a lot of ugly 60's and 70's 2/3/4 story buildings. These could all be upzoned to 6-8 stories without having much of an effect on "neighbourhood character".

My view is you don't buy a time capsule, you're buying a block of land in an evolving city. Things will change, they need to.
This may sound weird: I love community. It's incredibly important to me!

I value community that is willing to include me. I do not value community that rejects me, especially after I make sincere efforts. Someone else's insular community is irrelevant to my decision-making processes. Generally, I'm content to live and let live, as much as it irks to be excluded because I lack some shibboleth. I know they're not going to start caring about me because I stand with them in solidarity, so I spare myself the effort.

This changes when insular communities seek to leverage their position against my interests and those of my community.

I understand where you're coming from. You see a comment about social ties, community, and cohesion and someone else accusing them of trying to create an aristocracy. It looks spurious, like this joker refuses to care, think, or understand why someone might care about such things.

I see someone looking to legitimize a system of exclusion of my community on supposedly progressive grounds. With the idea being that they can protect their privilege - without ever using the p-word - by encouraging exclusion. I find it hypocritical and distasteful.

I understand why they want to do it. I do. I understand their pain, their sense of loss, their fears for the future. I simply do not agree with what they would do about these.
If you're looking to bridge Slack and IRC, Matrix does a pretty good job of that.

https://imgur.com/a/f2fuO

I don't believe anyone's written a fully-functional XMPP connector yet though.
Here's the fun part: eventually slack's going to have the same problems it complains about these protocols having. Some new platform can't run the same client as usual, so they write a new one that has a slightly different feature set. And/or some clients can't be upgraded.

"All of this has happened before and will happen again."

I'm completely unsurprised. The integrations were there to reduce customer risk in choosing slack. Now that slack is big enough, they don't need to do that anymore. Those integrations can only let 3rd parties into the party that slack wants all for themselves.

Shit like this is why IRC is still so popular.
I was hoping we could use old phones as IP cameras with the screen turned off. I hope apps that are last in the foreground can continue to access camera and microphone and sensors with the screen turned off -- at least when connected to power.
I loved InfluxDB early in 2014 (I used it at Postmates for internal metrics).

It's very bad you guys killed high availability feature but understand the business requirements.
NetGuard https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.ne... allows for blocking traffic for apps per-domain and per-app.

AFWall https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.ukanth.ufi... patches iptables to block domains used by apps that are not allowed network access.

I did Android QA for a VPN/Proxy app. Had to benchmark battery usage and verify that we upgraded to SPDY properly. A lot of rooting, and tcpdumping. Eventually we got a WiFi network set up by sysadmins that mirrored traffic to one Ethernet socket. Plugged it in on a local SSH-accessible machine and I could tcpdump the whole WiFi traffic without fiddling with devices.

Facebook and Instagram are awful network hogs. Both send a lot of packets every 5-10s when the screen is on to Facebooks tracking domains.

I removed both and haven't looked back since I saw that.

Google and other tracking companies of course are not better, hence the apps mentioned at the top.

This is not a viable solution long-term though. They will find ways to eventually circumvent these restrictions.

Now I'm thinking about setting up the same thing I had at work at home, just to see what kind of crap goes through my network daily.

You're on Windows 10? Guess what Microsoft does. Install Wireshark and check for yourself how much MS domain hits you get. Not to mention HTTP traffic from random apps and/or websites that circumvent privacy protection domain lists.

The implication here is that you're the product but not for that company or another. You're for all of them, ISP included. The more crap leaks on your network the more they know and sell.

As a side note, I have no idea why DNS traffic still goes in pretty much plaintext...

Have you heard about tracking data exchanges?

The overall problem is that everyone is spying on you on multiple levels because there's money to be made on profiling. Facebook just grabs the headlines. Apps listening to you are scary but the fact is you don't have to speak to be heard by them.
We're probably thinking of different examples, but to me it's not morality- it's more like the exploration of unintended consequences. If you act like X, what unintended consequence Y might come about? I have always felt like hearing the stories of other people, good or bad, makes it easier to think about new-to-me circumstances. To borrow two popular quotes:

- A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies. The man who never reads lives only one

- Experience is the teacher of all things
Ahh, I didn't recognize that. I had just thought they formatted it that way to seem cute.
I don't think Facebook will do this to be honest.

But if they decide to do, I think best way of action will be some defensive programming around it, with plausible deniability.

I am guessing they are already checking binary integrity etc, also they can probably push code updates from server. So when you put this pieces together, they have everything they need technically.
So wait, okay, in the 1800s state-and-gold-backed banks issued legal tender in lieu of anything else, this is a fair analogy to cryptocurrency and anybody against cryptocurrency just wants to see people in jail
IRC is right now standardizing reactions and threads. As I linked elsewhere in this thread, IRCCloud now runs their own slack gateway for their users, with support for all of it: https://twitter.com/irccloud/status/971416931373854721?s=21

It's absolutely possible to provide all this in open protocols, and even in a reasonable timeframe.
I must be slow because I'm not seeing the issue. Can you explain it how reading the source code affects your relationship with a binary you didn't build?
>Libertarians can still form their own exchanges where they are free to be continuously swindled and conned.

Would all of this not also remove the ability to create those 'free exchanges'?
We have been doing mob programming for the last month or so. It works well, but everyone needs to be engaged. Otherwise, it's just a distraction.
Doubt it. For one, HN is a global community and in many other countries the problem of college leaving you with crippling debt isn’t as big as what you see in America. And second, the largest demographic in HN by far are straight white males, who often come from middle class families with high earning incomes, enough to pay for education on top of whatever scholarships are earned. Aside from that, many have been in the tech industry for years or even decades earning six figure salaries. Assuming they keep decent savings invested or have had a few big wins it’s easy to see how this crowd can have some big pockets. And then there’s a sizable amount of outliers: cryptocurrency millionaires, founders of acquired companies, early stage employees post IPO or even current founders of multi-million dollar companies, maybe even a billionaire or two.