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Yep, there's a reason populism is commonly derided even in democratic societies. The founding fathers and "The Federalist Papers" [1] talked heavily about this problem (aka the influence of the "lowest common denominator" in popular voting).

Where these popular ideas do matter is in the marketplace. The entire tech industry, including some of the wealthiest companies in the world, will most certainly rebel against any attempt by ISPs to threaten net neutrality. And there will similarly be a revolt by customers.

Google Fiber was created merely to promote the deployment of fiber, Net Neutrality is a far bigger issue than fiber to both the tech industry and ISP consumers.

Even without FCC rules it will still be very dangerous for any ISP to make any significant changes to how the internet works.

The most likely scenario is that a few mobile internet providers may offer niche small packages of limited internet to mobile users for $5-10/month (which so far is the only real world example of "net neutrality" being violated in the world, by a Portuguese ISP)... basically a way to offer cheaper packages to some users who can't afford full broadband. This is basically the only thing I could see ISPs getting away with. I highly doubt any ISP would risk limiting the internet for any average home broadband users. Most American ISPs are public companies who still have worry about their bottom line.

The backlash even without FCC laws will be a significant deterrence.

[1] https://www.wikiwand.com/en/The_Federalist_Papers
You're right that it's not a referendum. But the public poll was not "yea or nea?" it was "if we did this, what sort of problems would it raise for you?" And if they had substantive answers to the problems raised, then it would be logical for them to override the outcry. But it was instead as if the answer was, "Yes, the feedback solicited was merely our bureaucratic obligation but we are not obligated to follow through."
I understand you're being sarcastic, but pro-NN folks like the OP are claiming that big business will shut down attempts to reinstate NN. That's an incorrect claim; some of the largest, richest, most powerful companies on the planet are pro-NN. It's dishonest to characterize big companies as the driving force behind anti-NN legislation.
Of course Netflix is in favor of net neutrality, I seem to recall when this was first being proposed they were responsible for something like 10% of all network traffic.

Do you really think they'd be opposed to a plan that basically subsidizes their bandwidth?

Same for all the other internet giants, net neutrality pretty much cemented their spot in the status quo.
It's required because it's supposed to help inform the FCC of pending legal challenges. FCC and other government agencies are supposed to take those comments seriously to avoid implementing bad rules and attracting expensive lawsuits in order to save the government (and ultimately the peoples') money.
How would that help? What are you going to do if you don't like what the report says?

Also, why not leave the Title II designation in place until a better solution is agreed upon and finalized?
> It would be ironic if Intel, having benefitted so greatly from the manufacturing shortfalls of past competitors, would find itself in a similar situation.

Intel is already in this position, though not because they sold off their fabs.

All the money these days is going into mobile SoC manufacturing by the likes of TSMC and Samsung. Intel simply lost because Samsung and TSMC are able to outspend Intel on fab R&D and it's showing in Intel's numerous node shrink delays.

People will argue that TSMC/Samsung 7/10nm is not the same as Intel, and probably they're right, but only at present. TSMC/Samsung are eventually going to surpass Intel's fab technology because they're killing it in volume manufacturing chips for Apple, Qualcomm, Nvidia, AMD, and others.

Meanwhile Intel is fabbing for... Intel. Plus some Altera FPGA IP they don't seem to be integrating very well into their product stack. If Intel wants to survive the next 20 years the only option I see is that they start fabbing for other people too.

ARM is moving into servers, and once the perf/watt surpasses Intel, it won't be long for the hyperscale cloud companies like Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Facebook to migrate away from Intel. For those guys, a 10% TCO reduction is a big deal, and while some of the perf/watt is due to the design, a lot of it comes from having the better process. If Intel loses their process lead, which is happening right now, then they're going to be second tier.

People will look back in 15 years at Intel snubbing Apple for the original iPhone SoC and mark that decision as the beginning of the end for Intel.

From Paul Otellini, Intel CEO at the time:

> At the end of the day, there was a chip that they were interested in that they wanted to pay a certain price for and not a nickel more and that price was below our forecasted cost. I couldn't see it. It wasn't one of these things you can make up on volume. And in hindsight, the forecasted cost was wrong and the volume was 100x what anyone thought.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/may/20/intel-sma...
Pai was appointed by Obama and confirmed by the Senate as a Republican under law limiting the number of members of one party to a bare majority and a long-standing, strong tradition that the President defer to the leadership of the other party in the Senate in appointing members filling the seats which must be filled by members not of the President's party. (Which Trump slow followed when renominating Democratic former commissioner Rosenworcel.) [0]

Blaming Obama for Pai being on the committee, rather than the Republican Party, is like blaming Elizabeth II for acts of the British Government rather than the parliamentary majority party.

OTOH, where no such legal or traditional constraint limited his choices, Trump selected Pai as FCC Chair, so blaming Trump for Pai’s current position and his reasonably direct endorsement of Pai’s long-overt goals for the FCC is appropriate.

[0] https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201...
The problem with that is I've found that telling FB I want to see less of a post often translates into not seeing anything from that person.

It's not a left / right... trump / anything else item like you seem to be making (the original person gave an example, you seem to be taking his example personally).

The request seems pretty simple - give people a way to categorize the content they post and then give the friends a way to filter what comes into their daily stream of stuff by those categories.
Is Instagram healthy? Anecdotally it seems like people have the same problems with it as FB.
it took me a while to notice the screenshot was the Photopea UI, not Photoshop's UI. This software is playing with fire (legally speaking)
That is an argument that screams for municipal ISPs. However half the country has laws that hinder municipal ISPs. This is the exact type of thing I was talking about in my initial post. Why not put the energy that was behind this movement behind allowing and setting up municipal ISPs?
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Can only use YouTubeTV on Chrome as well.
Voting for a 3rd party candidate is next to worthless. The mathematics of first past the post voting guarantee a two party system.
Follow the money?

On one side, I believe Doctors get paid more by performing a C-section. [1]

On the other, it may involve less risk, which reduces the likelihood of malpractice lawsuits? [2]

1 - https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/dalexand/f...

2 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3096673/
My iPhone will go into thermal shutdown on a hot New England July day. I got a waterproof case for it and throw it in the water until it cools off. Works great.
No one is going to (or should) do your homework for you.
The biggest weirdness about it was that it was essentially a parser macro, not an element. That is, at parse time, it expanded into a form/label/hr/input set of elements into the token stream. Super-bizzare. See the removal patch at https://github.com/whatwg/html/commit/5c44abc734eb483f9a7ec7....
> This wouldn't be a problem if ISP's weren't de facto monopolies.

It would still be a problem for startup companies. If TimeWarner gives exclusive preferential pricing to Vimeo and Verizon gives exclusive preference to YouTube, your video-streaming startup still has an extra uphill battle even if there is competition among the established players.
Amazing isn't it?
How exactly are they going to lose subscribers when a vast majority of them have no alternative?
Amazon should divest AWS into its own company for its sake.
VPNs
But in reference to the original comment, it was in the U.S. that Netflix succeeded, though it was supposedly stifled here. It just makes no sense.
Except Obama originally appointed him to the commission, Trump just promoted him.
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This is false. The United states is a representative democracy, AND a republic. A democracy can be direct (As in parts of ancient Greece), or representative (As in... Every democracy that is not in ancient Greece.)

The only criteria for being a republic is that you don't have a monarch. The USSR was a republic. China is a republic. Canada is not a republic. Yet, Canada is also a representative democracy, while neither China, nor the USSR are.
You're not refuting his point... you're demonstrating it.
Soviet Union did not accept the blame for occupation of Baltic states so I don't see how it should be Russia's obligation.

Repercussions of Holodomor were deaths of millions of Soviet citizens in Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Belarus. What do you want Russia to accept here ?
> Ajit Pai, the F.C.C. chairman, said the rollback of the net neutrality rules would eventually help consumers because broadband providers like AT&T and Comcast could offer people a wider variety of service options.

Sure, they can. At different paid tiers.
If there is no such language in your employment agreement, that is the default arrangement.

I'm not going to bother having to get a lawyer to fix something that shouldn't be a problem in the first place. In California it isn't a problem. I'm firmly convinced that this fact is one of the reasons why Silicon Valley is in California and not New York.
Just looking at it, it appears to me like the layer visibility icon is the exact same icon.

This is more than playing with fire.
It's not a wrong grammatical correction though:

it's: short for "it is".

its: possessive version of "it". E.g. its worse -> worst belong to "it"
Here my answer: I'm cheating on you and still have no regrets.

ps: my last year hackintosh build with 64GB RAM for < 5K is not impressed by those 128GB RAM
Would be good for Photoshop to have some competition. But beware the patent minefield, my son!
That's _novel_ interpretation of that deal.
> work to flip the House back

A well written response, but I choke on salt when I read this sort of call to action.

The house has been slowly and surely gerrymandering the country into hereditary fiefdoms for their parties.

And if the solution is to relocate to "to the nearest plausibly flippable R district" then we're really saying that money is the real power.

Today's decision is a black eye for the concept of self-governance.
Write to your governor and ask them to propose net neutrality protections at the state level. Text RESIST TO 50409 and you can have your letter written and faxed to them in <2 mins for free.
Current discussion, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15915081
Awesome I'm going to stick a couple of LEDs on my T-shirt and then hang out in France. It'll be illegal to stick my photo on FB
Appointed by President Obama allegedly as a sort of "Olive Branch" to the Republicans.

I really wish the Democrats had just started firing broadsides at Republicans in the last decade, given that the Republicans clearly can stomach the lowest of the low political gamesmanship.
I don't get it. Aren't Republicans for less regulation?
How will this actually impact me? I saw one graphic which suggested this may make it cheaper for me to pay for just the services I need.
For those not in the know: "E pur si muove" means "And yet it moves", a phrase supposedly uttered under his breath by Galileo after he was coerced into admitting that the Earth does not move around the Sun.
Reasonably close. If you're worried that there is astroturfing or some other kind of organized manipulation going on, I think it's unlikely. There's an easier explanation: HN is a highly international community. People post from many countries, naturally including many Eastern European countries in this thread. These peoples don't see things the same way, for deep and valid reasons, and the issues raised by the topic touch on matters of survival and tribe that have a lot of energy in them.
Are you counting wireless as an option? We're beginning to see some folks use their mobile carrier + tethering as their home internet, often times with better speeds than their cable internet.

And what does the future hold? Undoubtedly more competition: the internet already plays a huge role in our lives, and that's likely to only increase. A startup that can disrupt the cable company stranglehold would tap a huge market and force cable companies to be more consumer-friendly.
I've long believed that you should be most critical of things you believe in the greatest.
There definitely is a competition problem. Without net neutrality, you will be even more screwed as a consumer when your only good ISP decides to offer you bullshit media packages with fast SNAPCHATZORZ access. Sure net neutrality doesn't help the fact that there just isn't enough competition, but it has the potential to make things a lot worse.
All these allegories are well and good. Explain how repealing net neutrality is in the public good, as that's what your post suggests
Just a thought, malls in America all look the same (with some exceptions). I do realize this was a concious effort based on data that consistency in mall design reduces "friction" and provides "familiarity" to consumers.

This isn't the case in a lot of other countries/cities; Dubai for example has multiple malls which look entirely different with it's own unique theme (or themes). They have an overlap of brand name stores, yet the business is brisk. Can American mall owners learn something from this?
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That doesn’t necessarily prove your point. It’s possible that advertising and install counts are lagging indicators, and that there are leading indicators like engagement showing trouble down the road. Anecdotally I’ve heard that this is the case.
Do you mean Trump? President Obama appointed Pai.

EDIT: I am not factually incorrect, so could you please explain why you are downvoting?
> We all know its illegal in the US

We are talking about Sweden.

Illegal is even a stretch here: thepiratebay.org did not, and does not, host copyrighted content. It hosted torrent files, and now hosts magnet links.
> Instead the "last mile" should be a non-profit funded by ISPs who lease the channels.

That's an interesting idea, kinda like Interac for telecom. From what I hear, Interac has a bit of an issue with being fairly closed to new peering agreements, so I wonder how that could be solved for the telco space, maybe constitute the maintenance corporation to be open to bids from new ISPs.
How can this compete with the recently announced AWS Serverless App Repo? [0]

That service is still in preview (and they may not be whitelisting folks yet), but it sure seems like it could be a category killer.

[0] https://aws.amazon.com/serverless/serverlessrepo/
Is your argument seriously that since innovative artists are a small minority, it's necessarily alright to harm them? You don't see any problem with that?
I think that would be a good value proposition for a city that does not already prefer one ISP over another. Interesting idea to spin something like this up.
Saying this is the Republican's fault is just as disingenuous as saying it was Obama's fault. Quite literally this was caused by Obama by the appointing of Ajit, who then was promoted by Trump. Ajit, as we know has been spearingheading this whole thing.
> It also doesn't seem like the internet regulatory state of pre-2015 was a disaster.

This is a common inaccurate argument I have seen pushed by the telcos to justify repeal.

There are many well-documented cases of how the "big 4" ISPs were increasingly blocking, redirecting (Charter's DNS redirection), interfering (injecting javascript and/or ads) and throttling traffic to internet services (Netflix) from their networks before the Title II reclassification of 2015.

All these abuses happened during a small window of a couple years between the previous FCC's Net Neutrality regulations were thrown out by the courts and 2015, when the Title II reclassification happened.
> Appointed by a candidate who lost by 3 million votes

Obama won by ~5 million and ~10 million votes in 2012 and 2008, respectively.
I would add to this by positing this is not just American culture. I think all people are religious by nature, even the most rational scientist has their inexplicable religious rituals.

My thought on this is that the world is simply too complicated to operate in, and everyone is looking for a system that has the answers. It is a form of compression. You don't have to handle the flow of complexity because someone else tells you the correct move.

Catholicism did this, it said that it had all the answers. Science wants to provide all the answers, and tries to advertise itself as such. However, as the post modernists identified science only gives you the facts, but there are infinite ways to interpret the facts. You need a value structure, a religion maybe, to interpret the facts. I think this is the religion that you have identified.
Portugal's internet shows us a world without net neutrality, and it's ugly
I think Title II is a fine solution (why shouldn't internet be a utility?). There are a ridiculous amount of people in these comments that are trying to thread the needle between "I support NN," but saying "it is fine that they reversed Title-II classification" (which I guess is their cool contrarian point of view, but functionally tripe)
Would you suggest they not vote?

There is no candidate that does not hold policy positions contrary to at least some my own.

What they've done is decided that this issue is less important than others, and based their votes on that.
It's critical to understand that it's not an intentional simplification. Altman and the rest of the rarified VC-connected people on both coasts are very, very disconnected from what its like to live in the lower or middle classes and especially what it's like to be a part of a systemically marginalized community.
It'll be a mark of truly general AI when computers can learn to play Mornington Crescent, and play to win.

They are, of course, still likely to struggle against an advanced player experienced with the Abingdon Gambit.
I think, in Texas at least, don't know about other areas of the south, many people will be surprised from how open people are in the cities. Now, in rural areas... yeah, no promise there. Rural people will love you at first site, but if you mention anything anything that contradicts their bible or the right to have a gun, most likely not. The cities surprise people who visit here though. They were not expecting the acceptance of things they thought everyone in the south was against.

Is the contradiction here intentional self parody?
Sam is asking people to be more inclusive of different ideas, not excluding one group for the benefit of the other.

I don't quite get how one jumps from 'we have to tolerate different ideas' to 'people will be excluded'. How does tolerating different ideas excludes people ?
That's not the only effect the de-regulation can have.

See Comcast/BitTorrent: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/22/16691794/net-neutrality-...

See, Indosat in Indonesia: https://imgur.com/gallery/nKZ2yeq

Better yet, MIT does a better job explaining:

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609594/the-demise-of-net-...
"If your startup can't survive unless it's right next to Silicon Valley then it probably deserves to die anyway."

Do you actually genuinely believe these absolutist statements, or you make them just coz they make for good sound bites?
Well that, and he runs a company whose value proposition is very explicitly tied to SV being the best place to start a startup, so it would be kind of awkward if he moved.
That's not true. He was appointed in 2012 by Obama and confirmed unanimously by the Senate. Trump merely renominated him to keep the position for another 5 year term.
First, Roy Moore lost. It wasn't a resounding loss, but he did lose.

Second, acting like an entire region as a monoculture is stupid and unproductive. We're all very, very different, and while there are some trends that are more prevalent in a region, that doesn't mean that the people who believe those things are backwards. Perhaps it means that you just haven't tried to see things from their perspective.

The lack of empathy and the unwillingness to consider that other people have different backgrounds and codes of ethics and a dogmatic insistence that "this way is the right way" is what's killing our cohesion as a country. And, as a whole, I've seen more of the "live and let live" philosophy in Atlanta than in a whole lot of supposedly liberal places.
I don't really know what process the W3C fork of our work uses for removal, if any, but you can learn more about how features get removed in the (WHATWG) HTML Standard per our working mode:

- https://whatwg.org/working-mode#removals

- https://whatwg.org/faq#removing-bad-ideas

In short, I think it's important to distinguish between conformance and removal from browsers. Removal from browsers is a big deal and, as per those links, is only done when it's not going to break the web, or when the benefits are very high (e.g. security issues). Removal from being conformant just reflects the evolution of best practices. See also https://github.com/whatwg/html/blob/master/FAQ.md#how-are-de...
Big bureaucratic, un-elected government institutions are problematic?

Well color me pink.
No doubt, some authors certainly use the language to its fullest, rendering their works essentially untranslatable. But I was referring specifically to García Marquez's works, since my recollection is that the language used was mostly plain (which I don't mean as a criticism!).
In other words, one of the least respected books in modern historical scholarship.
Gandhi said, "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it."

You are technically correct. Almost no election is changed by the result of a single person. However, if everyone who thought this way chose to vote anyway, they could collectively swing every election.
Is there anything that can be done at the protocol level to make the anti-NN goals of the ISPs unfeasible? Would a sudden surge in IPV6 adoption make the databases used to locate and label certain traffic useless? What about at the DNS level? BGP? Perhaps the best way to enforce net neutrality is by forcing the adoption of protocols that ensure it.
Exactly my thought.

It is one of the biggest companies facing a ton of competition and still doing a superb job.
ACA was a mechanism for private insurers to grow their market share with the side effect of increasing coverage and saving lives.

NN is a mechanism for internet providers to completely take over delivery of the internet whereby they can effectively censor information, kill or allow companies to kill their competitors, and charge artificially higher premiums for information they do not produce.

Not completely applies and oranges, but if you don't think this is very very bad, you're not thinking.
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