skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You have a choice of ISPs?
Just because Google has huge power doesn't mean we should also allow this and change from really hard to impossible to replace Google.

Lack of NN will allow ISPs to essentially implement censorship in addition to what we have.
Wait, facebook doesn't provide your full friends feed stream. How do they get it?
Yeah, the version the earlier poster was talking about in his link is somewhere between your levels of Senior and Principal.
Ironic: I typoed my criticism of their typo.

Sorry, Warm Springs, GA.
We didn't need net neutrality as long as non-neutrality was too complicated to implement.
You might also happily weld for $10,000/hr but you aren't a talented welder, and you can't learn in a day.
That's an expected feature for Firefox as well.

It landed in Nightly as a WIP feature, but it's getting there: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1283299
Sadly, I think screen-focused media are much of the problem. Especially the unprecedented quality and quantity available now, with easier access than ever.

Having a window to all the world, a vast library both greater and with a worse SNR than any that's ever existed, more high-quality, unique audio-visual entertainment options than existed in entire major cities a mere couple of decades ago (let alone 50 years ago), hundreds of immersive video games tuned for "engagement" at best and outright addiction at worst (remember when games would eventually get frustrating/boring enough, or you'd get stuck and have no immediate way of finding a solution, so after an hour or two you'd be sick of playing and just want to ride bikes or something? Those were the days.), a direct line to answer any stupid low-value question that pops in your head, near-instant communication with everyone you know, and so on (mixed in with tons of manipulative advertising and such), all in your house, all of the time, is maybe not healthy for most people.

It is my will being perpetually sated.

Pretend we are writing a fable in which a sorcerer always gets what he wants.

Consider what happens to a soul which always gets what it wants.

- Emily Bludworth de Barios

(excerpt, whole thing at http://www.forkliftohio.com/index.php?page=freight-31)
They call it Platform Security Processor and not Management Engine.
Has web advertising jumped the shark?
Worse, in Qualcomm chips you have essentially the same OS as in AMD "Secure" Processor. Trustonic TEE OS. Handling ARM "Trust"Zone.
edited summary: The 'duty' is owed to shareholders, not to you. That duty is to generate profits and protect shareholders' investment.

That's not how commerce works(anymore). You are technically a consumer...and you are fundamentally the "product". Companies buying advertising are the actual consumer - to which you(ie your data) are for sale.

If you cannot look at it that way, modern corporate America/Elsewhere will never make sense. There is no free lunch, no company anywhere wants to help you out of sheer kindness and goodwill. Free software? (sometimes) free phone? ...really?
I have one choice. I guess that's a choice.
As best as they can, and by a lot of people running release candidates on test systems. Unfortunately there are basically an infinite (not really, just incredibly impossibly large) number of configurations of software and hardware that can lead to a bug like this not triggering so it's not always possible to catch this ahead of time.
Cutting the Cord: The Legal Regime Protecting Undersea Cables
stealth intelligence test. For a variety of interesting historical reasons, the government hates intelligence tests as a hiring criteria and this is the blue collar stealth/workaround IQ test. Its the blue collar equivalent of fizzbuzz or a gitlab repo.

Look, you got one task, one task only, it's not even hard to figure out, do not, repeat, do not, get high the week or two before your pee test. That simple. There are human bipeds burning valuable oxygen right now, who can't follow a test that elaborate and complicated. They are literally the kind of people where if you told them not to lick a circuit breaker, would turn around and an hour later electrocute themselves and probably a coworker or two by licking a circuit breaker on the jobsite. Whats the minimum IQ and discipline level necessary to pass a pee test? Not much, but there are failures out there walking around...

Its interesting that as far as I know this is the first strictly chemistry based IQ test. AFAIK there is no "pee in a bottle to determine if you can fizzbuzz" test for code monkey work. No chemical marker that can identify if you know the modulus operator... not yet...
There's a way to test that hypothesis. Install a different version of Android on the same phone and see if the behavior still changes. If not, it's a hardware thing. If it does, then dig into the source code to see if anything explains the change...
Drug testing allows companies to deny Worker's Comp and Disability Insurance Claims. Being able to deny claims allows lower premiums.
A few other cryptos are as well http://vectorspace.ai/recommend/app/crypto_discover?query=re...
I'm not a DBA and, without bothering to RTFA, I'm going to guess the answer is along the lines of "use unique indexes"?
"If they did, everyone would try to work in that industry because the barrier to entry is comparatively very low."

That's an old joke:

Surgeon to plumber: "You are charging higher prices than I get for performing surgery!"

Plumber: "Yeah, I make more money now than when I was a surgeon, too."
Did you follow yesterday's news? The ME is remotely vulnerable, has full control over the machine, and it's not even clear that it can be upgraded in a secure way.

Why wouldn't you be interested in turning it off?

And why would you classify people who'd rather not be running remotely vulnerable code they can't control as "privacy folks"?
I only have Comcast (coax) or Century Link (dsl). Basically there's no choice for me.
You're assuming that most people have access to more than one ISP (they don't), or that statements by ISPs about what they intend to do or not do are truthful (they aren't). Specifically statements promising they would never do anything that would break net neutrality rules, while arguing against the imposition of net neutrality rules, would not make sense. Why oppose something you have no intention of doing?
I don't think roofers are good example, not sure where you live, but last summer I got roofers scheduled in a week (Boston area). By locally known construction company, I got estimate and contract by American owner/sales man - he probably does well, but the actual work was done by Brazilian crew, which I'm guessing was mostly illegal immigrants likely paid less than minimum wage. From my observations with neighbors and friends, all roof work done in the area is by Brazilian crews (I don't know why Brazilian specifically, but that how it is). Good luck competing wit them.
Another anecdote example is small framing company owner (originally from Russia), mostly hires illegal Russian immigrants who work for near minimum wage. The owner may do well, but not the rest of the crew.
It is now called AMD Secure Processor.
Yes, and if you are in the minority of people who don't this will incentivize every nerd in your area to create an ISP to offer unfiltered internet. But more importantly this doesn't depend on competition to make ISPs realize it's a bad idea either.

The technical hurdles and push back from the tech companies, media, and public are being extremely underrated. This whole scenario is far more complicated than the ISPs making a greedy choice one day.

Regardless I'd rather we regulate actual threats rather than hand-wavy hypothetical ones.
Then the big companies bought up all the smaller isp's, then the telcos refused access to smaller companies.

Thats why internet service kept dropping in costs, more choices as more providers. Now you are lucky if you got more than 1 provider (or many in the USA, none)
>I don't. It should be available to non-technical users. It needs to be available to non-technical users.

Why should it be available to non-technical users? What will they possibly gain from being able to be tricked into installing a keylogger on their phone?
We've already asked you repeatedly to start following the guidelines, so we've banned the account.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
In many areas, there are only 1 (maybe 2) ISPs, so there is no viable alternative choice.

It is also quite easy to detect whether someone is using a VPN, so I don't see why they wouldn't also dictate which protocols are permissible for each "package".

This would be in-line with the packages offered which require the users to install MITM certs and/or use provider-based DNS servers in order to ensure tracking of all online traffic (in exchange for a "discount", of course).
Trump's FCC announces plans to kill net neutrality
No, no, no! This is not the problem with net neutrality. This is some generic argument for the regulation of monopolies, and as such, it is fine.

But net neutrality is devious beyond the abuse of a local monopoly. It doesn't matter if there are ten ISPs available to any given consumer.

The problem is that creates a new monopoly: that of access to an ISPs subscriber. See my aunt-comment (to this) for the full argument.
My counter point does not depend entirely on competition. That is merely one counter-balance available to much of the country who have more than one ISP available, of the many I mentioned (technical, marketing, business model).

Why not create regulation in response to real scenarios that have actually happened instead of hypothetical ones that are already have plenty of other drawbacks?
Why exactly are ISPs opposing net neutrality if it's their intention anyway?
Netflix was throttled, mostly
By Comcast, Time Warner and Verizon, which all have businesses competing with Netflix outside the internet.
>When companies centralized and controlled app downloads, they did it primarily to make more money. Now their greed ends in the loss of real human rights.

Well, the Chinese get the right their chats to be surveilled by their own state (in their own platforms) - as opposed to being surveilled by the US (on Skype and such platforms).

Which sounds like a win.
> This would be a boon to any ISP who DIDN'T do this. Competition, and obvious lack of business sense, has always been a far larger counter-balance to this idea.

Where I'm at, it's Comcast or nothing. Most of the US does not have any ISP competition. It's usually 1 ISP to choose from, or if you're lucky, 1 ISP with expected speeds and 1 ISP over DSL.

I really wish I lived somewhere with multiple options, because if anything like this website bundle scenario did play out, I wouldn't have any choice in avoiding it.
1) Not at all. Tables are in UEFI. Control is in kernel space. It can remotely issue a boot or shutdown command among others. Probably hard shutdown too considering the watchdog.

2) Only in so far as it goes into power saving mode itself. (Which is kind of fake, does not disable magic networking junk.)

3) Like in any other boot if unhibernating. Does not touch suspend which is handled in UEFI.
> Everyone would flock to the ISPs who didn't do this.

I wish I had your optimism. I live in the damn Bay Area and I have two choices for ISPs:

1. Comcast Cable

2. Dial-up....if I get my phone provided by Comcast

Every placed I've lived at so far on the East and West coast, even in populated areas, I have usually just Comcast and, occasionally, a terrible DSL provider. That's it. It's quite common across the USA to have little or no choice in ISPs.
thank you! we'll be open sourcing soon!
Three Little Pigs provides a solid foundation in engineering cost benefit analysis and the risk assessment of black swan events. It provides the basis for an in depth discussion with your tiny tike of whether or not Pokey's prioritization of low initial cost and straw design was economically sound in light of Lazy's more costly wood construction suffering the similar catastrophic failure when encountering huffs and puffs. The child might be encouraged to write a formal analysis of the counter-factual in which the wolf crept up upon Will while his brick structure was incomplete rather than visiting the other structures first.

The more sophisticated child should probably be introduced to actuarial consideration of how pig lives relate to absolute construction costs and the potential negative effects of increased hut construction regulations on the overall economy. Extending the exercise to draft lobbying positions may or may not be appropriate, i.e. should the construction of wolf-proof structures be left entirely to the private sector seeing as public funding for wolf shelters would provide good projects for engineers?

STEM and 7 in the same sentence make me sad.

Good luck.
Something that seems to be forgotten in this day and age is that corporations exist at the pleasure of the citizens (aka taxpayers) because said corporations offer them things that are deemed to be net public goods. Why should you be allowed to build your network in our country in the first place? (Especially when we could do it ourselves at cost and not give you a percentage off the top?)
Could you please take a look at the guidelines, which ask you not to do this?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
> If only an extension could change userChrome.css! That would solve many people's problems.

This! Even if extensions were very restricted to only toggle pre-defined css rules or something, this could go a long way.
Discord, hangouts, facetime - take your pick.
Cowsay: should not recommend cowsay-off
You can also deny workman's comp claims if somebody blows a drug test. They are powerfully financially incentivized to fish for a hot sample in the case of an accident.
But what if your only choice for ISP is Comcast? 50 million Americans only have access to one ISP. You can't just switch providers when you only have one provider to choose from. Comcast could do this very easily and millions of Americans would be stuck paying more money for worse service.
They will not change the end-user prices you pay. But they will charge the next netflix, or google, or github that comes around to get their website to you. That startup will never have a choice but to pay up, if they're interested in reaching their customers. They will be charged exactly what their per-customer profit is, minus one cent.
> this will incentivize every nerd in your area to create an ISP to offer unfiltered internet

Uh, how do you think these "nerds" are going to provide broadband? It's highly capital intensive to lay cabling so you're either going to piggyback off of someone like Comcast (who is going to charge you a lot) or you're going to piggyback off of someone's wireless which is also very expensive.
I did follow the news about being remotely vulnerable. That's why I said I'd understand the urge to remove the networking stacks. Other vulnerabilities would require local access.

> Why wouldn't you be interested in turning it off?

I'm not asking why you'd be interested in it, I'm asking why you'd freak out
so much about it given X/Y/Z are already true and you can't do anything about them. There's a bit more nuance in my argument than you're giving me credit for here.

> And why would you classify people who'd rather not be running remotely vulnerable code they can't control as "privacy folks"?

I already excluded the part about remote vulnerability. See first point above.
Really cool! Reminds me of everything I love about Clojure. and Clojurescript.
These are good. Thanks.

Weird that the only way to get to that menu is through a toolbar that's not visible by default.
What's different now is that we're seeing huge mergers between telecom companies and media companies.

The internet is more vital to everyone now than compared to 15 years ago. Every year more and more people are choosing to eschew traditional cable for Netflix et al.

With NN being repealed, it opens up ways for ISP's to promote their own content and shut out others like nothing that's happened before. This whole repeal smacks of anti-consumerism and pro corporate nonsense.
Given Intel's announcement: https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTE...

>Based on the items identified through the comprehensive security review, an attacker could gain unauthorized access to platform, Intel® ME feature, and 3rd party secrets protected by the Intel® Management Engine (ME), Intel® Server Platform Service (SPS), or Intel® Trusted Execution Engine (TXE).

It seems like there's a reasonable chance of that being the case.
Well, in NYC, senior execs at major multinational companies and top surgeons aren't the only ones making $400K.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/10/04/why-shoul...

Yes, these are blue collar workers.
In some states for some actions there is a rule that disallows retracting a suit after an answer is filed. Might be useful for patents in federal law. That's for Congress to take up.
So is there a contract? Do I pay someone to vote for me? What if they vote against my interest? can I sue them? or do I get compensated for them voting against my interest?
>(and most of the rest of the country outside the NW corridor)

I assume you meant NE corridor although I understand that Seattle to Portland by train works reasonably well. Even on the NE corridor it's really segments. Boston-NYC and NYC-Washington DC work well. Boston to DC really takes too long although I've done it.

There are some other segments here and there but even when they seem like a good way to get from A to B (like Raleigh to Charlotte), in my experience it's not heavily utilized.
It's funny- I was an unlicensed grey market house painter for a while in college. I booked most of my jobs while standing on top of a ladder, where somebody would stroll up asking me if I'd do their house next.
Yes and no. You're right on the money about Span being an advanced construct. However, before Span, stack allocated memory was essentially C programming in the CLR, and most of the benefits of the CLR (cross architecture compatibility, for one) therefore goes out the window, as you have dependencies on raw memory layout and stack space (determined by the CPU architecture and OS) and things like memcpy, which depend on binaries from the C runtime. If Span does not compromise these benefits, then the developer no longer has to think about those things.

There will be an gain in ease of use. Granted, average developers aren't going to care about this (nor will they need to). But you should expect to see an increase in performance of many libraries, as most open source projects generally won't use unsafe code in order to increase performance.
it's just a repeat...something goes up and everyone jumps not realizing that the boiling water has already started to simmer...I am referring to the general lack of economic growth per country...the longer that goes on..the worse the boiling water will feel at the end..will we be boiled or will we finally understand our grave future economic peril
"Minority of people"? Most people are in a duopoly - the local telco, the local cableco. Not much in the way of competition.
As described it only worked if you run it at exactly half-past midnight.
Some smokers are smart, though. I wonder if it's another kind of test?
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I might suggest that man and the kernel have a different relationship to user programs.
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Every white collar job I've held in the last decade had mandatory drug tests.
> you're either going to piggyback off of someone like Comcast

That was the solution in Canada to generate competition, as the laying of cables was subsidized already, it was never a free market, as I'm sure the telecom industry in the US was hardly a free market... not sure why it's such a crazy idea.

Why not focus on creating the basis for competition instead of centrally managing the intricacies of business... which has historically further limited competition.

And if two companies engage in monopolistic practices, such as colluding to offer the same packages, that should be the domain of antitrust courts.
it isn't Netflix or Facebook or Google you should be worried about. it's the startup company trying to launch a competing service.

imagine having to pay your ISP extra money for the privilege of using a privacy-oriented search tool like Duck Duck Go over Google... and none of the money you pay goes towards Duck Duck Go.
Centralization hasn't stopped the iTunes App Store from infecting a greater percentage of users with malware (Xcodeghost) than any competing mobile platform.
Which Clarence can you get without a drug test?
I think the 78% number is dubious, but I've seen numbers in that range. It's based on apprehensions which is a proxy for estimating crossings. It's also been going down steadily for many years and hasn't taken any sharp turn recently. Border crossings also don't reflect total migration via all pathways.

I'd imagine the direct correlation is the ratio of US wages to Mexican wages. US wages have been poor for so long, migrants see less benefit. Migration might go on the upswing as wages rise and jobs are harder to fill.
There is a strongly contrasting view of the history of radio in the United States [1].

[1] https://mises.org/library/spectrum-should-be-private-propert...
Hm I get about 4 up and downs per second before the scroll position is 180deg out of phase in Safari on iPhone 7+. That translates to about 125 (1000/8) ms latency?
Yep, apparently. (Technically not macOS, but OS X, since I haven't upgraded from El Capitan just yet.) I'd never had an issue with frequent kernel panics before, so I'm not sure what could be up with videos in Firefox.
That's fine?! Consider the fixed costs of building a new carrier! Today's carriers will price it below where it makes sense to "build your own carrier", these costs will be distributed among consumers and we'll all be paying more for the same access we have today. The only difference is today's carriers have higher profits and a stranglehold on our access to the internet.
In the US at least, the ISP owns the infrastructure. Many ISPs also have monopolies over "last mile" copper and fiber connections because regulations were originally written assuming that different modes (off the air radio, cellular, etc) would be enough to allow competition.
> This would be a boon to any ISP who DIDN'T do this. Competition, and obvious lack of business sense, has always been a far larger counter-balance to this idea.

Competition surely can help, but currently there is no competition in a lot of places. It's basically monopoly / oligopoly situation, with collusion and market division to boot. So increasing competition is a good goal, but it shouldn't block preventing monopolistic abuse with legal means.

Monopolists also created a lot of blockers that prevent increasing competition. Such as local state laws that ban municipal networks which could solve this very problem.
in the other half it's never 1:15
> I'm not sure why people think the only that has held ISPs back from doing this is a 3yr old FTC regulation

The FCC has been enforcing neutrality principles since 2004, through case-by-case actions through 2010, and through regulatory orders in 2010 and 2015. Even in the brief window between case-by-case enforcement being struck down in 2010 and the 2010 Open Internet Order and the longer window between the 2010 Order being struck down and the 2015 Order, there was a clear regulatory direction which gave non-neutral activity a high-risk of being unsustainable and thus not worth investing in. There is very little competition in ISPs in most areas and very high barriers to entry; it isn't competition that has been controlling non-neutral behavior.
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You know what was different 15 years ago? It was before consumer broadband access was consolidated down to the point where a consumer 0 or 1 other choices other than their current provider.